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  • Re: [NEWS] Apple announces Mac OS Ventura

    From Alan@21:1/5 to Your Name on Mon Jun 6 23:52:55 2022
    On 2022-06-06 11:27 p.m., Your Name wrote:

    Apple announced the next version of Mac OS at the Developers Conference
    ... yet another stupid name, "Mac OS Ventura" rather than using simple numbers like all their other OSes have.  :-\

    You mean like Windows...

    NT

    ME

    XP

    Vista?


    When it is released in "the fall", Ventura will mean the dropping of
    support for some older Mac computers that were supported in the current
    Mac OS Mavericks. There's a list of which devices can run Apple's
    various new OSes at: <https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/06/06/heres-what-you-need-to-run-ios-16-ipados-16-watchos-9-macos-ventura-and-tvos-16>



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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 7 18:27:36 2022
    Apple announced the next version of Mac OS at the Developers Conference
    ... yet another stupid name, "Mac OS Ventura" rather than using simple
    numbers like all their other OSes have. :-\

    When it is released in "the fall", Ventura will mean the dropping of
    support for some older Mac computers that were supported in the current
    Mac OS Mavericks. There's a list of which devices can run Apple's
    various new OSes at: <https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/06/06/heres-what-you-need-to-run-ios-16-ipados-16-watchos-9-macos-ventura-and-tvos-16>

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Jun 7 19:56:55 2022
    On 2022-06-07 06:52:55 +0000, Alan said:

    On 2022-06-06 11:27 p.m., Your Name wrote:

    Apple announced the next version of Mac OS at the Developers Conference
    ... yet another stupid name, "Mac OS Ventura" rather than using simple
    numbers like all their other OSes have. :-\

    You mean like Windows...

    NT

    ME

    XP

    Vista?

    "all *their* other OSes" ... i.e. Apple's other operating systems (iOS,
    iPadOS, watchOS, tvOS, audioOS, and rumouredly an up-coming homeOS).

    Why single out MacOS for ridiculously silly and meaningless names. :-(




    When it is released in "the fall", Ventura will mean the dropping of
    support for some older Mac computers that were supported in the current
    Mac OS Mavericks. There's a list of which devices can run Apple's
    various new OSes at:
    <https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/06/06/heres-what-you-need-to-run-ios-16-ipados-16-watchos-9-macos-ventura-and-tvos-16>


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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Jun 7 09:52:40 2022
    On 7 Jun 2022, Your Name wrote
    (in article <t7n0c7$1m8b$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

    On 2022-06-07 06:52:55 +0000, Alan said:

    On 2022-06-06 11:27 p.m., Your Name wrote:

    Apple announced the next version of Mac OS at the Developers Conference ... yet another stupid name, "Mac OS Ventura" rather than using simple numbers like all their other OSes have. :-\

    You mean like Windows...

    NT

    ME

    XP

    Vista?

    "all *their* other OSes" ... i.e. Apple's other operating systems (iOS, iPadOS, watchOS, tvOS, audioOS, and rumouredly an up-coming homeOS).

    Why single out MacOS for ridiculously silly and meaningless names. :-(

    Well at least they dropped the rumoured “Mammoth” name! You can still
    call it macOS 13 anyway if you don’t like named OS’s.

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From johnson@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Jun 7 11:17:06 2022
    On 2022-06-07, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Apple announced the next version of Mac OS at the Developers Conference
    ... yet another stupid name, "Mac OS Ventura" rather than using simple numbers like all their other OSes have. :-\

    When it is released in "the fall", Ventura will mean the dropping of
    support for some older Mac computers that were supported in the current
    Mac OS Mavericks. There's a list of which devices can run Apple's
    various new OSes at:

    Mavericks hasn't been 'current' for years

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Jun 7 08:40:36 2022
    On 2022-06-07 12:56 a.m., Your Name wrote:
    On 2022-06-07 06:52:55 +0000, Alan said:

    On 2022-06-06 11:27 p.m., Your Name wrote:

    Apple announced the next version of Mac OS at the Developers
    Conference ... yet another stupid name, "Mac OS Ventura" rather than
    using simple numbers like all their other OSes have.  :-\

    You mean like Windows...

    NT

    ME

    XP

    Vista?

    "all *their* other OSes" ... i.e. Apple's other operating systems (iOS, iPadOS, watchOS, tvOS, audioOS, and rumouredly an up-coming homeOS).

    Why single out MacOS for ridiculously silly and meaningless names.  :-(


    Sorry. I read "the" rather than "their".




    When it is released in "the fall", Ventura will mean the dropping of
    support for some older Mac computers that were supported in the
    current Mac OS Mavericks. There's a list of which devices can run
    Apple's various new OSes at:
    <https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/06/06/heres-what-you-need-to-run-ios-16-ipados-16-watchos-9-macos-ventura-and-tvos-16>


    Why in the world are you bringing up Mavericks?

    It's 8 versions from current.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Alan B on Wed Jun 8 08:32:55 2022
    On 2022-06-07 08:52:40 +0000, Alan B said:
    On 7 Jun 2022, Your Name wrote
    (in article <t7n0c7$1m8b$1@gioia.aioe.org>):
    On 2022-06-07 06:52:55 +0000, Alan said:
    On 2022-06-06 11:27 p.m., Your Name wrote:

    Apple announced the next version of Mac OS at the Developers Conference >>>> ... yet another stupid name, "Mac OS Ventura" rather than using simple >>>> numbers like all their other OSes have. :-\

    You mean like Windows...

    NT

    ME

    XP

    Vista?

    "all *their* other OSes" ... i.e. Apple's other operating systems (iOS,
    iPadOS, watchOS, tvOS, audioOS, and rumouredly an up-coming homeOS).

    Why single out MacOS for ridiculously silly and meaningless names. :-(

    Well at least they dropped the rumoured “Mammoth” name! You can still call it macOS 13 anyway if you don’t like named OS’s.

    People can personally call it whatever they want*, but everywhere else
    will still use the official silly codename.


    * "Desktop iOS" would seem to be becoming more and more appropriate. :-(

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to johnson on Wed Jun 8 08:29:39 2022
    On 2022-06-07 11:17:06 +0000, johnson said:
    On 2022-06-07, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Apple announced the next version of Mac OS at the Developers Conference
    ... yet another stupid name, "Mac OS Ventura" rather than using simple
    numbers like all their other OSes have. :-\

    When it is released in "the fall", Ventura will mean the dropping of
    support for some older Mac computers that were supported in the current
    Mac OS Mavericks. There's a list of which devices can run Apple's
    various new OSes at:

    Mavericks hasn't been 'current' for years

    I realised that after posting. I meant "Monterey" ... just one example
    of the stupidity of using meaningless codenames rather than numbers.

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  • From YK@21:1/5 to Your Name on Wed Jun 8 10:28:50 2022
    On 6/7/22 4:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2022-06-07 11:17:06 +0000, johnson said:
    On 2022-06-07, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Apple announced the next version of Mac OS at the Developers Conference
    ... yet another stupid name, "Mac OS Ventura" rather than using simple
    numbers like all their other OSes have.  :-\

    When it is released in "the fall", Ventura will mean the dropping of
    support for some older Mac computers that were supported in the current
    Mac OS Mavericks. There's a list of which devices can run Apple's
    various new OSes at:

    Mavericks hasn't been 'current' for years

    I realised that after posting. I meant "Monterey" ... just one example
    of the stupidity of using meaningless codenames rather than numbers.

    Yet, there are others who are glad they use code names and not the old numbering system. People are different in their knowledge and
    understanding of many things, including computers. As an occasional Mac
    User Group presenter, user educator, and a support technician (multi
    platform), I am always aware of this. If your understanding is on the
    Pro level, it doesn't matter. If you dealt with as many different
    platforms and operating systems with many end users, as some of us here
    do on a regular basis, you would understand this.

    YK

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  • From Neill Massello@21:1/5 to Your Name on Wed Jun 8 21:36:52 2022
    On 2022-06-07 at 00:27:36 MDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Apple announced the next version of Mac OS at the Developers Conference
    ... yet another stupid name, "Mac OS Ventura" rather than using simple numbers like all their other OSes have. :-\

    I expect it to include a desktop picture of alligator lizards in the air.

    <https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/America-5/Ventura-Highway-1>

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 9 10:52:28 2022
    On 2022-06-08 14:28:50 +0000, YK said:

    On 6/7/22 4:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2022-06-07 11:17:06 +0000, johnson said:
    On 2022-06-07, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Apple announced the next version of Mac OS at the Developers Conference >>>> ... yet another stupid name, "Mac OS Ventura" rather than using simple >>>> numbers like all their other OSes have. :-\

    When it is released in "the fall", Ventura will mean the dropping of
    support for some older Mac computers that were supported in the current >>>> Mac OS Mavericks. There's a list of which devices can run Apple's
    various new OSes at:

    Mavericks hasn't been 'current' for years

    I realised that after posting. I meant "Monterey" ... just one example
    of the stupidity of using meaningless codenames rather than numbers.

    Yet, there are others who are glad they use code names and not the old numbering system. People are different in their knowledge and
    understanding of many things, including computers. As an occasional Mac
    User Group presenter, user educator, and a support technician (multi platform), I am always aware of this. If your understanding is on the
    Pro level, it doesn't matter. If you dealt with as many different
    platforms and operating systems with many end users, as some of us here
    do on a regular basis, you would understand this.

    YK

    It's "MacOS Hyperball" newer than "MacOS Wonderorb" ... who knows,
    without memorising the entire list, but *EVERYONE* (barring those with
    number dyslexia) can very quickly and easily understand that "MacOS 18"
    is newer than "MacOS 15".

    Using codenames is utterly ridiculous and incomprehsnibly stupid, even
    more so when it's only MacOS that does so out of all of Apple's various operating systems.

    Apple aren't the only ones of course. Google stupidly uses codenames
    for their Android releases too, but most companies have enough sense to
    use numbers for the public even if they use codenames internally.

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  • From Connor Shannon@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 9 08:57:00 2022
    Boy you sure picked a silly thing to get mad about.

    When I look at About This Mac it gives me a number right below the name. Its not like they don't have numbers.

    I like the names I think they're cool. But I wish they had called this one Mammoth, I think Mammoth Mountain is a lot prettier than Ventura!

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Connor Shannon on Thu Jun 9 14:20:10 2022
    On 2022-06-09 11:57, Connor Shannon wrote:
    Boy you sure picked a silly thing to get mad about.

    Par for him.


    --
    "Mr Speaker, I withdraw my statement that half the cabinet are asses -
    half the cabinet are not asses."
    -Benjamin Disraeli

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Connor Shannon on Fri Jun 10 08:43:04 2022
    On 2022-06-09 15:57:00 +0000, Connor Shannon said:

    Boy you sure picked a silly thing to get mad about.

    Simple understanability should always be the founding cornerstone of
    any product.

    It's the same with the idiocy in New Zeland where important
    announcements keep being sprinkled with Maori words - very few people understand Maori and they are only put in to appease the "Politically
    Correct" nutters, at the expense of being easily understood.



    When I look at About This Mac it gives me a number right below the name.

    Yes, in smaller font to make it seem less important ... when in reality
    it is far more important.



    Its not like they don't have numbers.

    Yes, they do have version numbers as well, but few people in magazines,
    news articles, etc. use them. Even Apple's own website page for the new
    MacOS doesn't mention the version number at all, not even in the small
    print legalese at the bottom of the page.



    I like the names I think they're cool. But I wish they had called this
    one Mammoth, I think Mammoth Mountain is a lot prettier than Ventura!

    More like "MacOS iOS" . :-(

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