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    From Steve Carroll - fretwizer@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 15 03:49:55 2022
    Carroll, 4/10/2015 4:04 PM:
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    Cute trick... To the guy who hacked my Google account.
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    No details. Seems to treat it as a joke.

    Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:02 PM, <https://goo.gl/51rsmZ>:
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    Email Hacking Is A Serious Crime
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    No longer "cute"... now it is a serious crime. OK.

    Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:07 PM:
    By now he is posting more links to how serious this crime against him
    is.

    Carroll, 4/10/2015 7:25 PM:
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    I didn't write that.
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    Now he is denying the posts from his own account. OK, he was "hacked".
    Someone else posted this. Hard to hack a gmail account given how they
    use two-step authentication and someone would need access to his phone
    or the like... but at least POSSIBLE.

    Even then, though, if someone tries to guess your password Google alerts
    you and lets you know what IP address and other info. I know because someone in a Denver internet cafe has tried mine on several occasions.

    Google even forces you to change your password when this happens. Very
    hard to hack these days.

    So already Carroll's story is unlikely.

    But let us accept it... someone somehow hacked his account bypassing
    the two step verification. This person did not, however, change his password and Carroll posted within an hour of the "hacker". Before that, unless
    he is an idiot, he changed his password and the "hacker" was locked out.
    The "hacker" got one post in.

    But Carroll could not leave his story there.

    Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:36 PM, <https://goo.gl/NJ2bMH>:
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    Someone hacked my frelwizzen gmail acct so, for the time being,
    don't trust anything from it.
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    Wait. What? Even after Carroll figured out this "hacker" who was too
    stupid to change his password had broken into his account and Carroll
    *surely* must have changed his own password, he is saying the "hacker"
    might still have access. Might be able to break Google's two-step verification process *again*.

    This is *very* unlikely... to the point of being unbelievable.

    Even worse for him: he notes which of his accounts he is claiming was
    hacked - but in the past he has denied even using the other accounts!
    LOL! He screwed up and made it very clear he has multiple accounts and
    felt the need to note which one. He made the same mistake in the next
    quote where he speaks of WHICH of his gmail accounts he is claiming was hacked. Oops! If he only posts with one there would be no need to specify which one!

    He has completely screwed up in his game to pretend he posts with only
    one gmail account. Completely idiotic of him, too!

    Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:38 PM, <https://goo.gl/YA7gMO>:
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    Some mentally deficient child hacked my 'frelwizzen' gmail account
    so I may have to kill it. For the time being, don't assume
    anything that's coming from it was written by me.
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    He is still saying that he may have to kill the account instead of just changing the password which anyone with half a brain would have already
    done (and Google *forces* you to do when someone even tries to hack your account... I know because someone in the Denver area has tried to hack
    mine multiple times... likely Carroll but I have no proof of this). And
    he specifies WHICH of his accounts! He is directly admitting he uses more
    than one account! His claim of being "forged" with his second account
    is a lie. Proved.

    Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:40 PM, <https://goo.gl/j6yCuV>:
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    Looks like it's still being hacked despite me taking precautions,
    I may have to kill the account.
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    What makes it look like its still being hacked? And what precautions
    other than changing the two-step verification options does he need? And
    how would someone bypass this... is he really on the NSA watch list? Seems
    you would need someone at that level to be doing this. He watches too
    much TV where they computer hackers spend thirty seconds and bypass all security.

    Just nonsense.

    Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:05 PM: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/5QXJHXq8d1k/ujK_-
    8ZYUnwJ
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    Apparently Google is having issues with their accounts to the
    point where they're ready to undertake some additional measures.
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    But, of course, no evidence of this... and what measures? They already
    alert users if someone else tries to guess your password and use two-step authentication and even force you to make a new password if it seems someone is trying to hack you.
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    They're now involving several federal agencies in things they
    didn't bother with previously in an effort to deal with people who
    hack into accounts. They've asked me to leave the account open.
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    So now Google is letting Carroll know how they are handling these things
    - and asking him to leave a *hacked* account open... one someone can be
    using to steal his identity. No. This does not pass the sniff test in
    any way. Even if they were doing this for some bizarre sting operation,
    which is in itself far fetched, they would have told Carroll to not make
    it public information so the hacker would not know.

    Just insanity. His own story is so idiotic and full of idiotic claims
    it simply cannot be true. Carroll uses his secondary Google account -
    the one he accesses via Tor and is referred to as his Tor account - to
    have plausible deniability for things he says there. Now he is working
    to do the same thing with his main account. Maybe Carroll read a report
    like this: <http://cnnmon.ie/111QeT8> [money.com]. If so he missed the
    part where they note if you are *really* hacked, which is rare, the hackers change your password and lock you out. Why would they not?
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    There's some new legislation that will help them deal with this
    issue... which probably means more BS for us ;)
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    Yes, new legislation to make sure Carroll does not have to deal with
    "hackers" and "forgers" which do not even exist.

    The funny part is, this happened shortly after someone in the Denver
    area, likely Carroll, tried to guess *my* passwords and they did it from
    an Internet café (Google tells you the IP and that can be used to trace back).

    My guess: Carroll is the one who was working to guess my password and
    figured this new lie of his was a good way to deny his own words even
    more than he does with his Tor account *and* a way to make it so if I
    had talked about him trying to hack my account he could say I was just
    copying his comments. "Proving" I read his posts... which for now I am
    to see how absurd his lies are. :)

    Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:25 PM:
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    The person who hacked into my Gmail acct. changed the wording on
    this post. I've removed the others but Google asked me to leave
    one standing for some odd reason.
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    Here Carroll claims the hacker changed the wording on a post of his from *before* he had even claimed he was hacked. So this hacker not only can
    *post* for him but edit his old Usenet posts.

    I call utter bullshit on this. Out and out lie from Carroll. And then
    Carroll says Google asked him to not delete these "hacked" posts... this
    is nonsense. Why would Google want him to leave forged posts in the public
    and why would Google not just keep their own copy? Even Carroll notes
    it is for "some odd reason" - yeah, because Carroll is telling stories
    that make *no* sense at all.

    Carroll is lying. Maybe there is some kernel of truth to his stories?
    Even if so - and frankly it is unlikely he will ever show any evidence
    to back his claims - the details he is posting are absurd.

    Carroll, 4/11/2015 2:10 PM:
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    And he's so high he thinks people still have to manually enter all
    their passwords in whenever they want to use anything that's been
    password protected ;)
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    Nobody had suggested, hinted, implied, or said anything like what Carroll
    says they did.

    Maybe his story will be someone stole his laptop (or mobile device) and
    he had his passwords saved? If so why not have the device deactivated remotely? Why has he not said anything about this?

    My guess: he realizes he screwed up when trying to guess my passwords
    and is now building a story so he can say his computer was stolen and
    it was not him. Or, LOL, maybe someone broke into his house and did it.

    This unknown hacker knew he was obsessed with me and carried on acting
    like him. Makes complete sense, eh?

    Carroll, 4/12/2015 8:45 AM, <https://goo.gl/KMf4pa>:
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    The first one, that has since been deleted. My bad for having such
    a feeble password on this account.
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    Now he suggests it was merely from someone guessing his password - which contradicts his above insinuations that it could have been from a saved password on a device he had.

    His story changes with the telling.

    But as noted, when someone tries to guess your password Google has ways
    to deal with it. I know - Carroll or someone in his neck of the woods
    recently tried it with me.

    Carroll, 4/12/2015 9:29 AM:
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    The account in question here is a gmail account. Contrary to
    Snit's delusions, I have no idea what a TOR account looks like but
    it's a good bet it doesn't bear much of a resemblance to a gmail
    account.
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    Here Carroll plays stupid and pretends that if when he or anyone uses
    the Tor browser *Carroll* pointed to this somehow changes the way the
    gmail interface looks. Um, no. Worse it might do is make Google think
    you are in another country and you would have to set it back to English.
    But the basic look stays the same.

    He is playing stupid and pretending to not know how the Tor browser he
    pointed to works. Just idiotic of him.
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    That idiocy aside, I love how Snit has repeatedly, for years,
    feigned ignorance about gmail accounts, yet, he keeps disclosing
    info that proves he knows about them. Some fools do stuff like
    this when they believe people are as stupid as the fool needs them
    to be ;)
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    I do not think Google would allow you to edit your Usenet / groups posts
    but I do not use it much and do not know for sure. Seems absurd that they would... and others have now said they do not. But given how I do not
    use Google Groups for posting why would I know the details of their system
    for certain?

    Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:47 PM:
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    Your obsession with me is insane. Working with Google I now have
    proof you and ebot worked together to hack me. Clever. If I press
    charges against you I have to also include her so you remain safe
    for now.

    Do not think this is over.
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    No evidence of working with Google on this (and all out and out lies).
    Carroll is making public threats based on lies.

    Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:50 PM:
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    I promised COLA your trolling days were over so you contacted ebot
    and worked with her to hack my account. I might not be able to get
    your ass handed to you in court over this but wait until your boss
    at Yavapai College contacts you.

    Maybe you should make that call first. Ask about your comments on
    incest.

    See if those can not be quoted.
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    Direct lies and threats by Carroll.

    Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:51 PM:
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    You went too far this time Snit. We have trolled each other for
    years but to contact ebot and get her to help you hack my account
    was over a line.
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    A complete and utter lie from Carroll.

    Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:52 PM:
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    The above post is Snit hacking my account.
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    A complete and utter lie... more false accusations from him.

    Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:53 PM:
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    You edited those posts when you hacked my account. Do not trust
    anything from my frelwizzen account now that Snit and ebot have
    access to it.
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    More unsupported claims and attacks by Carroll.

    Carroll, 4/16/2015 8:56 PM:
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    Working with Google I now have proof Snit and ebot hacked the
    account. Many of the older posts were edited. You can see evidence
    of this by Snit pointing to "old" posts which have been modified
    to
    say I claimed I was his "personal newsgroup rapist", a phrase I
    have never used.
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    No evidence of Carroll working with Google. No evidence of any older
    posts being edited.

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