I'm 99% sure that I'm right. My 1% doubt is that someone obviously knew enough about Apple II's to publish some things that are correct, but I'm
so
perplexed on how they could have gotten so many things wrong. Did they
know of something that I don't?
eri...@gmail.com wrote:Okay. Good enough for me. I made an ASCII screen code viewer program and checked it out on various systems in AppleWin, and even checked between primary and alternate character sets. Not sure about the IIc and IIc Plus because AppleWin doesn't support
I'm 99% sure that I'm right. My 1% doubt is that someone obviously knew enough about Apple II's to publish some things that are correct, but I'm soThe amount of erroneous information in this world is staggering, beyond belief. It occurs in every conceivable field of human interest, and is propagated the same way: by people who merely copy without verifying.
perplexed on how they could have gotten so many things wrong. Did they know of something that I don't?
If you want to verify, I'd suggest looking at the Apple reference manuals (for the original II, IIe, and so on). They usually had a character set table toward the back in some appendix.
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The New Apple II User's Guide:
https://macgui.com/newa2guide/
This web page is driving me bonkers. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Apple_II_character_set
On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 12:15:42 PM UTC-7, eri...@gmail.com wrote:
This web page is driving me bonkers. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Apple_II_character_setA few years back I added some notes to the "talk" page for that entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Apple_II_character_set
Some related info here:
https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/q/8652
One surprising thing I've learned so far is that the Platinum IIe has
the revised MouseText character set (running man replaced) like on the
IIgs, and not the original MouseText (running man present) like on all
the IIc's and the Enhanced IIe.
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021, eri...@gmail.com wrote:
One surprising thing I've learned so far is that the Platinum IIe hasThat's not my experience.
the revised MouseText character set (running man replaced) like on the IIgs, and not the original MouseText (running man present) like on all
the IIc's and the Enhanced IIe.
-uso.
On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 9:38:41 PM UTC-5, Steve Nickolas wrote:
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021, eri...@gmail.com wrote:
One surprising thing I've learned so far is that the Platinum IIe hasThat's not my experience.
the revised MouseText character set (running man replaced) like on the
IIgs, and not the original MouseText (running man present) like on all
the IIc's and the Enhanced IIe.
-uso.
Could you please elaborate? Are you saying you've used a Platinum IIe
and you haven't experienced the revised MouseText on it, or are you just saying you're not surprised it's there? If you have a source that says otherwise, please share. Also, I'm happy to list my source.
On Sat, 6 Nov 2021, eri...@gmail.com wrote:If that's the case...
On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 9:38:41 PM UTC-5, Steve Nickolas wrote:
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021, eri...@gmail.com wrote:
One surprising thing I've learned so far is that the Platinum IIe hasThat's not my experience.
the revised MouseText character set (running man replaced) like on the >>> IIgs, and not the original MouseText (running man present) like on all >>> the IIc's and the Enhanced IIe.
-uso.
Could you please elaborate? Are you saying you've used a Platinum IIeI'm pretty sure that my old Platinum had the same MouseText as the
and you haven't experienced the revised MouseText on it, or are you just saying you're not surprised it's there? If you have a source that says otherwise, please share. Also, I'm happy to list my source.
original Enhanced.
I no longer have it to check though.
-uso.
On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 9:00:01 PM UTC-5, Steve Nickolas wrote:
On Sat, 6 Nov 2021, eri...@gmail.com wrote:If that's the case...
On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 9:38:41 PM UTC-5, Steve Nickolas wrote:I'm pretty sure that my old Platinum had the same MouseText as the
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021, eri...@gmail.com wrote:
One surprising thing I've learned so far is that the Platinum IIe hasThat's not my experience.
the revised MouseText character set (running man replaced) like on the >> >>> IIgs, and not the original MouseText (running man present) like on all >> >>> the IIc's and the Enhanced IIe.
-uso.
Could you please elaborate? Are you saying you've used a Platinum IIe
and you haven't experienced the revised MouseText on it, or are you just >> > saying you're not surprised it's there? If you have a source that says
otherwise, please share. Also, I'm happy to list my source.
original Enhanced.
I no longer have it to check though.
-uso.
Are there any current Platinum IIe owners in this forum that can confirm which version of
MouseText theirs has? Could it be that some have version 1 and some had version 2?
On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 9:00:01 PM UTC-5, Steve Nickolas wrote:
On Sat, 6 Nov 2021, eri...@gmail.com wrote:If that's the case...
On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 9:38:41 PM UTC-5, Steve Nickolas wrote:I'm pretty sure that my old Platinum had the same MouseText as the
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021, eri...@gmail.com wrote:
One surprising thing I've learned so far is that the Platinum IIe hasThat's not my experience.
the revised MouseText character set (running man replaced) like on the >> >>> IIgs, and not the original MouseText (running man present) like on all >> >>> the IIc's and the Enhanced IIe.
-uso.
Could you please elaborate? Are you saying you've used a Platinum IIe
and you haven't experienced the revised MouseText on it, or are you just >> > saying you're not surprised it's there? If you have a source that says
otherwise, please share. Also, I'm happy to list my source.
original Enhanced.
I no longer have it to check though.
-uso.
Are there any current Platinum IIe owners in this forum that can confirm which version of
MouseText theirs has? Could it be that some have version 1 and some had version 2?
"eri...@gmail.com" <eri...@gmail.com> writes:It does, thank you. It's interesting though. My Enhanced IIe's Video ROM is 342-0265-A, and it has the same MouseText as yours. The thought occurred to search the web for Apple II Video ROM's, and I found some .bin files with most of them labeled with
On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 9:00:01 PM UTC-5, Steve Nickolas wrote:In addition, the Video ROM part number is 342-0306-A, if that helps out anyone.
On Sat, 6 Nov 2021, eri...@gmail.com wrote:If that's the case...
On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 9:38:41 PM UTC-5, Steve Nickolas wrote: >> >> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021, eri...@gmail.com wrote:I'm pretty sure that my old Platinum had the same MouseText as the
One surprising thing I've learned so far is that the Platinum IIe has >> >>> the revised MouseText character set (running man replaced) like on theThat's not my experience.
IIgs, and not the original MouseText (running man present) like on all
the IIc's and the Enhanced IIe.
-uso.
Could you please elaborate? Are you saying you've used a Platinum IIe >> > and you haven't experienced the revised MouseText on it, or are you just
saying you're not surprised it's there? If you have a source that says >> > otherwise, please share. Also, I'm happy to list my source.
original Enhanced.
I no longer have it to check though.
-uso.
Are there any current Platinum IIe owners in this forum that can confirm which version of
MouseText theirs has? Could it be that some have version 1 and some had version 2?
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Jerry awanderin at gmail dot com
On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 9:25:27 PM UTC-6, awanderin wrote:
"eri...@gmail.com" <eri...@gmail.com> writes:It does, thank you. It's interesting though. My Enhanced IIe's Video ROM is 342-0265-A,
On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 9:00:01 PM UTC-5, Steve Nickolas wrote: >> >> On Sat, 6 Nov 2021, eri...@gmail.com wrote:In addition, the Video ROM part number is 342-0306-A, if that helps out
If that's the case...
On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 9:38:41 PM UTC-5, Steve Nickolas wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021, eri...@gmail.com wrote:I'm pretty sure that my old Platinum had the same MouseText as the
One surprising thing I've learned so far is that the Platinum IIe has >> >> >>> the revised MouseText character set (running man replaced) like on theThat's not my experience.
IIgs, and not the original MouseText (running man present) like on all
the IIc's and the Enhanced IIe.
-uso.
Could you please elaborate? Are you saying you've used a Platinum IIe >> >> > and you haven't experienced the revised MouseText on it, or are you just
saying you're not surprised it's there? If you have a source that says >> >> > otherwise, please share. Also, I'm happy to list my source.
original Enhanced.
I no longer have it to check though.
-uso.
Are there any current Platinum IIe owners in this forum that can confirm which version of
MouseText theirs has? Could it be that some have version 1 and some had version 2?
anyone.
--
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Jerry awanderin at gmail dot com
and it has the same MouseText as yours. The thought occurred to search the web for Apple
II Video ROM's, and I found some .bin files with most of them labeled with their parts
number. By the way, does anyone know what that 4 digit number at the end of each file
name means?
I looked at the first few bytes a few of the first half of some of the IIe/IIc files and
found that it was all the screen characters from the alternate set with the pixel data
being inverted. I have no idea about the second half of the file as it doesn't appear to
be character data or even 6502 instructions. I'm thinking it may have something to do
with video timing or the handling of primary/alternate character sets. Or maybe it's
information on how the graphic screens work. Does anyone here know what it is?
There's also a file named "Apple IIe Video - Enhanced - IIgs F-G MouseText Fix- 2732.bin"
with no part number. Shouldn't there be a part number with this?
https://wiki.reactivemicro.com/Apple_Chip_Designations
@Jerry - According to this source, your Video ROM is French. Is that what you have?
bin files: https://downloads.reactivemicro.com/Apple%20II%20Items/ROM_and_JEDEC/IIe/Video%20ROM/
http://www.applelogic.org/APPLEASICs.html https://macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=23998
It does, thank you. It's interesting though. My Enhanced IIe's Video
ROM is 342-0265-A, and it has the same MouseText as yours. The thought occurred to search the web for Apple II Video ROM's, and I found some
.bin files with most of them labeled with their parts number. By the
way, does anyone know what that 4 digit number at the end of each file
name means?
I looked at the first few bytes a few of the first half of some of the IIe/IIc files and found that it was all the screen characters from the alternate set with the pixel data being inverted. I have no idea about
the second half of the file as it doesn't appear to be character data or
even 6502 instructions. I'm thinking it may have something to do with
video timing or the handling of primary/alternate character sets. Or
maybe it's information on how the graphic screens work. Does anyone
here know what it is?
There's also a file named "Apple IIe Video - Enhanced - IIgs F-G
MouseText Fix- 2732.bin" with no part number. Shouldn't there be a part number with this?
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