• IBM PS/2 Model 80 (8580-071) restoration

    From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 8 21:18:10 2023
    Hi,

    I acquired an IBM PS/2 Model 80 (8580-071) today and am looking for
    advice on what I should do to check it out before, during, and after
    applying power for the first time.

    I'll try to get some pictures if anyone is interested.

    The label near the power switch says that it's an 8580-071. I have no
    idea how that compares to the hardware that's in it.

    There are two full size (5¼) hard drives, the controller card. I don't
    know what type of drives they are yet, they look to be MFM / RLL like in
    that they have the common cable and a per drive cable.

    There is a video card that has a daughter-card in the same slot like a
    thick sandwich.

    There is another card that I don't recognize. The card doesn't have any external connectors and it looks like it takes multiple (approximately
    4"x4") daughter-cards. I am wondering if this is a memory expansion of
    some sort.

    There are two of what I believe are the memory boards between the back
    hard drive and the power supply.

    The battery is still in the system, but I didn't see any corrosion and
    it's away from the motherboard.

    There is also the degrading black foam used for air ducting. Blech.

    Q: What things should I do as part of checking out this system. I'd
    like to eventually power it up and see what is on the drives (if they
    will spin).

    I need to physically clean it with a damp rag and get some pictures of
    the system.

    Please share any pro-tips / gotchas / etc. that you think I could
    benefit from knowing.

    Thank you and have a good day.



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  • From Bob Eager@21:1/5 to Grant Taylor on Thu Mar 9 09:05:42 2023
    On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 21:18:10 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote:

    I acquired an IBM PS/2 Model 80 (8580-071) today and am looking for
    advice on what I should do to check it out before, during, and after
    applying power for the first time.

    I'll try to get some pictures if anyone is interested.

    The label near the power switch says that it's an 8580-071. I have no
    idea how that compares to the hardware that's in it.

    It's one of the ESDI disk based machines, originally shipped with a 70MB
    hard drive.

    There are two full size (5¼) hard drives, the controller card. I don't
    know what type of drives they are yet, they look to be MFM / RLL like in
    that they have the common cable and a per drive cable.

    ESDI, as above.

    There is a video card that has a daughter-card in the same slot like a
    thick sandwich.

    Probably an 8514 adaptor, or an Image Adaptor/A.

    There is another card that I don't recognize. The card doesn't have any external connectors and it looks like it takes multiple (approximately
    4"x4") daughter-cards. I am wondering if this is a memory expansion of
    some sort.

    Yes, it will be. 70ns SIMMs, max 2MB I think. But generic ones have to be 'coded' with a blob of solder.

    There are two of what I believe are the memory boards between the back
    hard drive and the power supply.

    They are faster memory. 2MB each in that model, I think. I don't think 4MB
    ones worked in the early 8580s.

    The battery is still in the system, but I didn't see any corrosion and
    it's away from the motherboard.

    Easy to get; go to a camera shop.

    http://www.tavi.co.uk/ps2pages/battery.html#72X8498

    Please share any pro-tips / gotchas / etc. that you think I could
    benefit from knowing.

    That's probably all I know!

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to Bob Eager on Thu Mar 9 09:18:57 2023
    On 3/9/23 2:05 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
    It's one of the ESDI disk based machines, originally shipped with a
    70MB hard drive.

    It sounds like the 2nd hard drive was added after the fact, or it was a
    special order from IBM. Though I'd have thought that the "071" would be different if it came from IBM with a different fit out.

    ESDI, as above.

    :-)

    Probably an 8514 adaptor, or an Image Adaptor/A.

    ACK

    Yes, it will be. 70ns SIMMs, max 2MB I think. But generic ones have
    to be 'coded' with a blob of solder.

    Eh ... I'm fairly certain that they were not what I think of as 72-pin
    SIMMs. Similarly they weren't 30-pin SIMMs either.

    Perhaps it's a special formfactor with 70 ns memory on it.

    They are faster memory. 2MB each in that model, I think. I don't
    think 4MB ones worked in the early 8580s.

    Easy to get; go to a camera shop.

    ACK

    I remember seeing these batteries around.

    That's probably all I know!

    Thank you for the information.

    Someone on cctalk suggested that I power the system up, which surprised me.

    I naively assume that I need to worry about bad capacitors and the likes.

    I'm also concerned about sticktion on the hard drives.

    It's my assumption that this system has not been powered on in quite a
    while.



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