I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need to return it all.
I'll update later.
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep mode.
Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few
solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need to return it all.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything they knew to try
they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how long it would take to fix or replace.
That included trying to get Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The rejected Sleep commands
had happened several times over the last few days. That should have been a sign that
something was wrong.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this experience has been.
At least the Apple Store rep was very understanding and accommodating.
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 12:12:43 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep mode. >>> Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few
solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and how >>> to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need to return it all.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything they knew to try
they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how long it would take to fix or replace.
That included trying to get Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The rejected Sleep commands
had happened several times over the last few days. That should have been a sign that
something was wrong.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this experience has been.
At least the Apple Store rep was very understanding and accommodating.
So then, upon the first actual problem, Tom bailed.
Unlike his Honda.
-hh
On 11/15/21 10:13 AM, -hh wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 12:12:43 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep mode. >>> Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few
solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and how
to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need to return it all.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything they knew to try
they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how long it would take to fix or replace.
That included trying to get Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The rejected Sleep commands
had happened several times over the last few days. That should have been a sign that
something was wrong.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this experience has been.
At least the Apple Store rep was very understanding and accommodating.
So then, upon the first actual problem, Tom bailed.
Unlike his Honda.
Sounds like the OS just needed a reload. Mac Store should have been
able to do that.
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep
mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot
loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothing
worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything
they knew to try they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how
long it would take to fix or replace. That included trying to get
Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The
rejected Sleep commands had happened several times over the last few
days. That should have been a sign that something was wrong.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this experience has been. At least the Apple Store rep was very
understanding and accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP and restore a
Quicken data file. Then I may look for a new W11 laptop. There is
also the issue with what to do with the new monitor ordered for the
Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need to return it all.
I'll update later.
On 2021-11-15 5:01 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:Yes I did. I had already tried the suggested solution, it failed. No need to make 2 trips. I left the other items in the car, hoping to get it fixed. See my update.
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need to return it all.
I'll update later.
So you went to the store with all your boxes, did you, Idiot?
Yeah... ...this was a sincere purchase.
LOL
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 1:28:01 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
On 11/15/21 10:13 AM, -hh wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 12:12:43 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep mode.
Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few
solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and how
to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need to return it all.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything they knew to try
they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how long it would take to fix or replace.
That included trying to get Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The rejected Sleep commands
had happened several times over the last few days. That should have been a sign that
something was wrong.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this experience has been.
At least the Apple Store rep was very understanding and accommodating.
So then, upon the first actual problem, Tom bailed.
Unlike his Honda.
Sounds like the OS just needed a reload. Mac Store should have beenA quick google search suggested to me that there are some elements which may indicate a hardware problem. If that's the case then supply chain backorders would
able to do that.
mean that the Apple Store was unable to offer a complete hardware replacement
right on the spot.
Then again, with how Tom was mucking around with Bootcamp or Parallels with IIRC Windows 11 betas for ARM chips, it seems likely that that could have been
what was fouling up the sleep operations (can't suspend active App?): if he also
did some sort of rude disconnect, that could have been what corrupted whatever
and bricked it: I'd not be inclined to immediately ignore any 'User Error' possibilities.
-hh
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:supply that.
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep
mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot
loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothing
worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need
to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything
they knew to try they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how
long it would take to fix or replace. That included trying to get
Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The
rejected Sleep commands had happened several times over the last few
days. That should have been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a piece of Apple
equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this
experience has been. At least the Apple Store rep was very
understanding and accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP and restore a
Quicken data file. Then I may look for a new W11 laptop. There is
also the issue with what to do with the new monitor ordered for the
Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for the Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do that if I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I can
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It would not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM EST post for details.
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need to return it all.
I'll update later.
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep
mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot
loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothing
worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need
to return it all.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything
they knew to try they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how
long it would take to fix or replace. That included trying to get
Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. TheRiiiiiight.
rejected Sleep commands had happened several times over the last few
days. That should have been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a piece of Apple equipment never mentioned them.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this experience has been. At least the Apple Store rep was very
understanding and accommodating.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP and restore a Quicken data file. Then I may look for a new W11 laptop. There is
also the issue with what to do with the new monitor ordered for the
Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need to return it all.
I'll update later.
Here are more complete references to the start options for a M1 Mac. It's more than just picking a boot disk.
https://eshop.macsales.com/blog/74502-boot-an-m1-mac-into-recovery-mode/
https://mac-fusion.com/m1-based-macs-have-new-startup-modes-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:46:52 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 5:01 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:Yes I did. I had already tried the suggested solution, it failed. No need to make 2 trips. I left the other items in the car, hoping to get it fixed. See my update.
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.So you went to the store with all your boxes, did you, Idiot?
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need to return it all.
I'll update later.
Yeah... ...this was a sincere purchase.
LOL
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 1:41:24 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 1:28:01 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
On 11/15/21 10:13 AM, -hh wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 12:12:43 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep mode.
Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few
solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and how
to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need to return it all.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything they knew to try
they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how long it would take to fix or replace.
That included trying to get Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The rejected Sleep commands
had happened several times over the last few days. That should have been a sign that
something was wrong.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this experience has been.
At least the Apple Store rep was very understanding and accommodating.
So then, upon the first actual problem, Tom bailed.
Unlike his Honda.
Sounds like the OS just needed a reload. Mac Store should have beenA quick google search suggested to me that there are some elements which may
able to do that.
indicate a hardware problem. If that's the case then supply chain backorders would
mean that the Apple Store was unable to offer a complete hardware replacement
right on the spot.
Then again, with how Tom was mucking around with Bootcamp or Parallels with IIRC Windows 11 betas for ARM chips, it seems likely that that could have been
what was fouling up the sleep operations (can't suspend active App?): if he also
did some sort of rude disconnect, that could have been what corrupted whatever
and bricked it: I'd not be inclined to immediately ignore any 'User Error' possibilities.
More details: The Apple Store guys looked it over. They said they would probably need
to replace it but could not say when that might happen. They would have done it today
if they have one in stock. The Apple store says the first week of December.
In the meantime I need a working computer ...
... and wanted to get this one returned and my money back. I may buy another one later,
after the bugs are worked out. A new W11 laptop is not out of the question either.
I really liked what I saw of it on the Mac.
There was nothing unusual about the software on it.
What really got THEIR attention was that it would not go to the boot up options menu.
I tried that too before taking it in. Apparently the M1 Macs do not have the same boot
options as the Intel versions. The M1 ... If it will not go to a low level menu like that
something is seriously hosed, or so I was told. Motherboard? It was a real pain to
manually update some files on the HP but I had them backed up on OneDrive.
Time Vault was of no use.
I REALLY loved that Mac. Like I said this is a VERY disappointing. It was not a good day. No joy here at all.
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:supply that.
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep
mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot
loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothing
worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need >> to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything
they knew to try they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how >>> long it would take to fix or replace. That included trying to get
Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The
rejected Sleep commands had happened several times over the last few
days. That should have been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a piece of Apple
equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this
experience has been. At least the Apple Store rep was very
understanding and accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP and restore a
Quicken data file. Then I may look for a new W11 laptop. There is
also the issue with what to do with the new monitor ordered for the
Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for the Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do that if I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I can
Because such a monitor is useful whether or not you have a Mac, Idiot.
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It would not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM EST post for details.I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied about your
flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the USB-C
connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for solutions
to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than ask before
returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:11:22 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 1:41:24 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 1:28:01 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
On 11/15/21 10:13 AM, -hh wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 12:12:43 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote: >>> I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep mode.
Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few
solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and how
to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need to return it all.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything they knew to try
they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how long it would take to fix or replace.
That included trying to get Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The rejected Sleep commands
had happened several times over the last few days. That should have been a sign that
something was wrong.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this experience has been.
At least the Apple Store rep was very understanding and accommodating.
So then, upon the first actual problem, Tom bailed.
Unlike his Honda.
Sounds like the OS just needed a reload. Mac Store should have been able to do that.A quick google search suggested to me that there are some elements which may
indicate a hardware problem. If that's the case then supply chain backorders would
mean that the Apple Store was unable to offer a complete hardware replacement
right on the spot.
Then again, with how Tom was mucking around with Bootcamp or Parallels with
IIRC Windows 11 betas for ARM chips, it seems likely that that could have been
what was fouling up the sleep operations (can't suspend active App?): if he also
did some sort of rude disconnect, that could have been what corrupted whatever
and bricked it: I'd not be inclined to immediately ignore any 'User Error' possibilities.
More details: The Apple Store guys looked it over. They said they would probably need
to replace it but could not say when that might happen. They would have done it today
if they have one in stock. The Apple store says the first week of December. That's just ~2 weeks from now, and as a warranty repair, you'd probably have priority.
In the meantime I need a working computer ...
You still have your old laptop, right? Don't really understand what the real problem is here.
... and wanted to get this one returned and my money back. I may buy another one later,So you'll go spend an equal chunk of change for a W11 laptop, invest the time to get it all
after the bugs are worked out. A new W11 laptop is not out of the question either.
I really liked what I saw of it on the Mac.
set up and then gosh maybe someday consider a Mac again at some point? Not really
sounding all that likely, sorry: suspect that you'll rationalize doing nothing to get your
money's worth out of the new Intel W11 laptop to kick the can down the road, at
which point you'll then start sniffing around at Windows ARM hardware rumors to
rationalize waiting for that.
There was nothing unusual about the software on it.IMO, there had to have been something causing the sleep problems you reported.
What really got THEIR attention was that it would not go to the boot up options menu.Thus why I said probably a hardware issue.
I tried that too before taking it in. Apparently the M1 Macs do not have the same boot
options as the Intel versions. The M1 ... If it will not go to a low level menu like that
something is seriously hosed, or so I was told. Motherboard? It was a real pain to
manually update some files on the HP but I had them backed up on OneDrive.
Time Vault was of no use."Time Vault"?
I'll freely admit that I'm not up to the minute on all of the naming stuff, but it sounds
like you may have merged Time Machine with File Vault - the former is for data backup
and the latter for data security.
I REALLY loved that Mac. Like I said this is a VERY disappointing. It was not a good day. No joy here at all.DOA's and Infant mortality happens in electronic hardware, as it classically has
the old bathtub ("U" shaped) reliability curve, and the 20th Century practices of
conducting "burn in" have fallen by the wayside.
Case in point, as CoVid began, I wanted a different setup so I ordered a video
adaptor. It worked well enough that ~6 months later, I decided to purchase another of the same (same supplier & same vendor): Well, copy #2 was DOA.
So I did a return w/replacement. #3 was also a DOA ... well, almost: it worked
for 5 minutes than crapped out, so did a R&R on it too. Unit #4 was a DOA as well,
at which point I returned & didn't replace with same: I went to a different supplier
& vendor for #5 (& paid more). Overall, if the first one hadn't worked perfectly
(and FYI, it is still working) and #5, I would have thought that it was some huge
conspiracy trying to make me go insane. Instead, my conclusion is that since parts #2 - #4 were all from the same supplier, vendor, & time period (after CoVid
onset), it was probably a bad batch that had gotten out in the wild.
-hh
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E.
wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to
enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this morning.
It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few solutions found in
a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
Because such a monitor is useful whether or not you have a Mac,how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in
case I need to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying
everything they knew to try they could not tell me exactly
what was wrong or how long it would take to fix or replace.
That included trying to get Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase.
The rejected Sleep commands had happened several times over
the last few days. That should have been a sign that
something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a piece
of Apple equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how
disappointing this experience has been. At least the Apple
Store rep was very understanding and accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP and
restore a Quicken data file. Then I may look for a new W11
laptop. There is also the issue with what to do with the new
monitor ordered for the Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On
Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for the
Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do that if
I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I can supply
that.
Idiot.
I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied about
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It would
not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM EST post for
details.
your flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the USB-C
connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for
solutions to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than ask
before returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
The logsheet entries you reference were filled out by my flight
instructor. I was too busy to count landings. There was no need to
exaggerate landings. There is no minimum required for a license.
I did not ask here because I never got any solutions. I figured the
Mac Genius crew would have an actual answer. They did. It would not
even boot to the recovery mode. It was hosed.
What was connected to the USB port? 2 external drives, including Time Machine. That's all. It did the same thing at the Apple Store with
nothing connected. I tried it that way too, with and without the
charger connected, before I left for the store.
The Apple crew agreed it had serious issues. Get that through your
idiotic head Liarboy.
On 2021-11-15 1:26 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E.
wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to
enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this morning.
It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few solutions found in
a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
Because such a monitor is useful whether or not you have a Mac,how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in
case I need to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying
everything they knew to try they could not tell me exactly
what was wrong or how long it would take to fix or replace.
That included trying to get Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase.
The rejected Sleep commands had happened several times over
the last few days. That should have been a sign that
something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a piece
of Apple equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how
disappointing this experience has been. At least the Apple
Store rep was very understanding and accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP and
restore a Quicken data file. Then I may look for a new W11
laptop. There is also the issue with what to do with the new
monitor ordered for the Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On
Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for the
Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do that if
I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I can supply
that.
Idiot.
I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied about
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It would
not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM EST post for
details.
your flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the USB-C
connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for
solutions to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than ask
before returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
The logsheet entries you reference were filled out by my flightYou were always good with excuses, Liarboy Idiot (or is it "Idiot Liarboy"?)
instructor. I was too busy to count landings. There was no need to exaggerate landings. There is no minimum required for a license.
I did not ask here because I never got any solutions. I figured theSorry, but your telling of the tale implies you were having the sleep problems before you could have formed that conclusion, Idiot.
Mac Genius crew would have an actual answer. They did. It would not
even boot to the recovery mode. It was hosed.
What was connected to the USB port? 2 external drives, including Time Machine. That's all. It did the same thing at the Apple Store with
nothing connected. I tried it that way too, with and without the
charger connected, before I left for the store.
The Apple crew agreed it had serious issues. Get that through yourWhat I get is that you probably bought a unit as soon as they came out
idiotic head Liarboy.
hoping that there would be a problem with an early unit so you could
declare the whole thing a failure, knowing full well that Apple's return policy would let you do it.
Is it any surprise to anyone that you bought a Mac on October 30 and precisely 15 days later--the last day that the policy would allow it,
you returned it for a refund?
On 2021-11-15 1:26 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E.
wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to
enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this morning.
It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few solutions found in
a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
Because such a monitor is useful whether or not you have a Mac,how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in
case I need to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying
everything they knew to try they could not tell me exactly
what was wrong or how long it would take to fix or replace.
That included trying to get Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase.
The rejected Sleep commands had happened several times over
the last few days. That should have been a sign that
something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a piece
of Apple equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how
disappointing this experience has been. At least the Apple
Store rep was very understanding and accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP and
restore a Quicken data file. Then I may look for a new W11
laptop. There is also the issue with what to do with the new
monitor ordered for the Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On
Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for the
Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do that if
I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I can supply
that.
Idiot.
I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied about
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It would
not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM EST post for
details.
your flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the USB-C
connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for
solutions to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than ask
before returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
The logsheet entries you reference were filled out by my flight instructor. I was too busy to count landings. There was no need to exaggerate landings. There is no minimum required for a license.You were always good with excuses, Liarboy Idiot (or is it "Idiot Liarboy"?)
I did not ask here because I never got any solutions. I figured theSorry, but your telling of the tale implies you were having the sleep problems before you could have formed that conclusion, Idiot.
Mac Genius crew would have an actual answer. They did. It would not
even boot to the recovery mode. It was hosed.
What was connected to the USB port? 2 external drives, including Time Machine. That's all. It did the same thing at the Apple Store with
nothing connected. I tried it that way too, with and without the
charger connected, before I left for the store.
The Apple crew agreed it had serious issues. Get that through yourWhat I get is that you probably bought a unit as soon as they came out hoping that there would be a problem with an early unit so you could
idiotic head Liarboy.
declare the whole thing a failure, knowing full well that Apple's return policy would let you do it.
Is it any surprise to anyone that you bought a Mac on October 30 and precisely 15 days later--the last day that the policy would allow it,
you returned it for a refund?
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 5:34:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and
On 2021-11-15 1:26 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan
wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas
E. wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to
enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this
morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few
solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
You were always good with excuses, Liarboy Idiot (or is it "IdiotBecause such a monitor is useful whether or not you have ahow to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes
in case I need to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying
everything they knew to try they could not tell me
exactly what was wrong or how long it would take to fix
or replace. That included trying to get Boot Mode to
work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire
purchase. The rejected Sleep commands had happened
several times over the last few days. That should have
been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a
piece of Apple equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how
disappointing this experience has been. At least the
Apple Store rep was very understanding and
accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP
and restore a Quicken data file. Then I may look for a
new W11 laptop. There is also the issue with what to do
with the new monitor ordered for the Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On
Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for
the Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do
that if I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I
can supply that.
Mac, Idiot.
I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It
would not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM
EST post for details.
about your flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the
USB-C connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for
solutions to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than
ask before returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
The logsheet entries you reference were filled out by my flight
instructor. I was too busy to count landings. There was no need
to exaggerate landings. There is no minimum required for a
license.
Liarboy"?)
Sorry, but your telling of the tale implies you were having the
I did not ask here because I never got any solutions. I figured
the Mac Genius crew would have an actual answer. They did. It
would not even boot to the recovery mode. It was hosed.
sleep problems before you could have formed that conclusion,
Idiot.
What I get is that you probably bought a unit as soon as they came
What was connected to the USB port? 2 external drives, including
Time Machine. That's all. It did the same thing at the Apple
Store with nothing connected. I tried it that way too, with and
without the charger connected, before I left for the store.
The Apple crew agreed it had serious issues. Get that through
your idiotic head Liarboy.
out hoping that there would be a problem with an early unit so you
could declare the whole thing a failure, knowing full well that
Apple's return policy would let you do it.
Is it any surprise to anyone that you bought a Mac on October 30
and precisely 15 days later--the last day that the policy would
allow it, you returned it for a refund?
Reply #2
So here I sit replying on my trusty iPad. An iPad I bought after I
dropped my first iPad and it hit a concrete airport ramp and broke
beyond economic repair. If I was really unhappy with Apple I could
have gone back to Android. I have had an iPad for almost 4 years,
have no reason to leave.
My trusty iPhone SE2 is in my right pants pocket. I bought it despite
some issues with the 6s that came before it and was traded in on the
Apple program. Could have sold it and bought an Android. No reason to
change it either, at least until the SE3 comes out. If it has a
fingerprint sensor and no notch it will be tempting!
A device that infinitely loops (small dig here) in boot mode after 2
weeks is simply unacceptable. I spent $3,300 for the computer,
AppleCare+, Magic Keyboard and Mouse and a USB A to C dongle plus
sales tax. $2,500 was the Mac. A Windows machine with similar specs
can be had for about $500-1000 less on sale. For that premium I have
high expectations. Very high expectations.
And, iPhone and iPad are a premium to Android. My experience says
both are worth it.
If want to insist that I did this on purpose you need explain:
1. Exactly how I caused the Mac to get into a boot loop
2. Why the Apple genius crew could not get it out of the loop
3. Why I bought everything I needed to set up the Mac on my desktop
hooked up to a monitor. Why not just buy the Mac, break it, and take
it back for a refund?
4. Why I have a $400 monitor bought for the Mac arriving Wednesday
that I will have to pay to send back
6. Why I’m typing this reply on an iPad with a Kensington
keyboard/trackpad
As for my Mac OS issues posted here those were intended to provokeSure. Whatever.
your rabid defense reflex. You are so much fun I can hardly take it.
It has kept me coming back for years. Do you foam at the mouth?
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 5:34:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and
On 2021-11-15 1:26 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan
wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas
E. wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to
enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this
morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few
solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
You were always good with excuses, Liarboy Idiot (or is it "IdiotBecause such a monitor is useful whether or not you have ahow to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes
in case I need to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying
everything they knew to try they could not tell me
exactly what was wrong or how long it would take to fix
or replace. That included trying to get Boot Mode to
work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire
purchase. The rejected Sleep commands had happened
several times over the last few days. That should have
been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a
piece of Apple equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how
disappointing this experience has been. At least the
Apple Store rep was very understanding and
accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP
and restore a Quicken data file. Then I may look for a
new W11 laptop. There is also the issue with what to do
with the new monitor ordered for the Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On
Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for
the Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do
that if I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I
can supply that.
Mac, Idiot.
I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It
would not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM
EST post for details.
about your flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the
USB-C connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for
solutions to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than
ask before returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
The logsheet entries you reference were filled out by my flight
instructor. I was too busy to count landings. There was no need
to exaggerate landings. There is no minimum required for a
license.
Liarboy"?)
Sorry, but your telling of the tale implies you were having the
I did not ask here because I never got any solutions. I figured
the Mac Genius crew would have an actual answer. They did. It
would not even boot to the recovery mode. It was hosed.
sleep problems before you could have formed that conclusion,
Idiot.
What I get is that you probably bought a unit as soon as they came
What was connected to the USB port? 2 external drives, including
Time Machine. That's all. It did the same thing at the Apple
Store with nothing connected. I tried it that way too, with and
without the charger connected, before I left for the store.
The Apple crew agreed it had serious issues. Get that through
your idiotic head Liarboy.
out hoping that there would be a problem with an early unit so you
could declare the whole thing a failure, knowing full well that
Apple's return policy would let you do it.
Is it any surprise to anyone that you bought a Mac on October 30
and precisely 15 days later--the last day that the policy would
allow it, you returned it for a refund?
As for the log entries, the person who signs it is responsible. The instructor signed of on those entries. As far as I know they are
correct, but it was over 50 years ago. And, what incentive would he
or I have to enter the wrong number of landings?
I thought it was 30 days grace. Never looked that until I pulled up a
sales receipt to take to the store. Anyway, it was the APPLE staff
that told me it was hosed. You actually think I'm smart enough to do
that?
Also, these M1 Mac symptoms are documented by others.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-bad-is-the-m1-macs-ssd-failure-problem/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252925077
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-pro-in-boot-loop.2306909/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-pro-not-booting.2277851/
On 2021-11-15 3:16 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 5:34:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and >>>>>> how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes
On 2021-11-15 1:26 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan
wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas
E. wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to
enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this
morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few
solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
You were always good with excuses, Liarboy Idiot (or is it "IdiotBecause such a monitor is useful whether or not you have ain case I need to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying
everything they knew to try they could not tell me
exactly what was wrong or how long it would take to fix
or replace. That included trying to get Boot Mode to
work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire
purchase. The rejected Sleep commands had happened
several times over the last few days. That should have
been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a
piece of Apple equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how
disappointing this experience has been. At least the
Apple Store rep was very understanding and
accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP
and restore a Quicken data file. Then I may look for a
new W11 laptop. There is also the issue with what to do
with the new monitor ordered for the Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On
Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for
the Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do
that if I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I
can supply that.
Mac, Idiot.
I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It
would not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM
EST post for details.
about your flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the
USB-C connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for
solutions to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than
ask before returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
The logsheet entries you reference were filled out by my flight
instructor. I was too busy to count landings. There was no need
to exaggerate landings. There is no minimum required for a
license.
Liarboy"?)
Sorry, but your telling of the tale implies you were having the
I did not ask here because I never got any solutions. I figured
the Mac Genius crew would have an actual answer. They did. It
would not even boot to the recovery mode. It was hosed.
sleep problems before you could have formed that conclusion,
Idiot.
What I get is that you probably bought a unit as soon as they came
What was connected to the USB port? 2 external drives, including
Time Machine. That's all. It did the same thing at the Apple
Store with nothing connected. I tried it that way too, with and
without the charger connected, before I left for the store.
The Apple crew agreed it had serious issues. Get that through
your idiotic head Liarboy.
out hoping that there would be a problem with an early unit so you
could declare the whole thing a failure, knowing full well that
Apple's return policy would let you do it.
Is it any surprise to anyone that you bought a Mac on October 30
and precisely 15 days later--the last day that the policy would
allow it, you returned it for a refund?
As for the log entries, the person who signs it is responsible. The instructor signed of on those entries. As far as I know they are
correct, but it was over 50 years ago. And, what incentive would he
or I have to enter the wrong number of landings?
I thought it was 30 days grace. Never looked that until I pulled up a sales receipt to take to the store. Anyway, it was the APPLE staffYou're (barely) smart enough to construct the lie that that's what you
that told me it was hosed. You actually think I'm smart enough to do
that?
were told, Idiot.
We have no proof you were told that; only your word.
And your word isn't good.
Also, these M1 Mac symptoms are documented by others.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-bad-is-the-m1-macs-ssd-failure-problem/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252925077
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-pro-in-boot-loop.2306909/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-pro-not-booting.2277851/All four of which you could have read about to construct your fable.
On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 2:54:09 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 3:16 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 5:34:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and >>>>>>>> how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes
On 2021-11-15 1:26 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan
wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas
E. wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to
enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this
morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few
solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
You're (barely) smart enough to construct the lie that that's what youYou were always good with excuses, Liarboy Idiot (or is it "IdiotBecause such a monitor is useful whether or not you have ain case I need to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying
everything they knew to try they could not tell me
exactly what was wrong or how long it would take to fix
or replace. That included trying to get Boot Mode to
work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire
purchase. The rejected Sleep commands had happened
several times over the last few days. That should have
been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a
piece of Apple equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how
disappointing this experience has been. At least the
Apple Store rep was very understanding and
accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP
and restore a Quicken data file. Then I may look for a
new W11 laptop. There is also the issue with what to do
with the new monitor ordered for the Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On
Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for
the Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do
that if I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I
can supply that.
Mac, Idiot.
I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It
would not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM
EST post for details.
about your flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the
USB-C connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for
solutions to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than
ask before returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
The logsheet entries you reference were filled out by my flight
instructor. I was too busy to count landings. There was no need
to exaggerate landings. There is no minimum required for a
license.
Liarboy"?)
Sorry, but your telling of the tale implies you were having the
I did not ask here because I never got any solutions. I figured
the Mac Genius crew would have an actual answer. They did. It
would not even boot to the recovery mode. It was hosed.
sleep problems before you could have formed that conclusion,
Idiot.
What I get is that you probably bought a unit as soon as they came
What was connected to the USB port? 2 external drives, including
Time Machine. That's all. It did the same thing at the Apple
Store with nothing connected. I tried it that way too, with and
without the charger connected, before I left for the store.
The Apple crew agreed it had serious issues. Get that through
your idiotic head Liarboy.
out hoping that there would be a problem with an early unit so you
could declare the whole thing a failure, knowing full well that
Apple's return policy would let you do it.
Is it any surprise to anyone that you bought a Mac on October 30
and precisely 15 days later--the last day that the policy would
allow it, you returned it for a refund?
As for the log entries, the person who signs it is responsible. The
instructor signed of on those entries. As far as I know they are
correct, but it was over 50 years ago. And, what incentive would he
or I have to enter the wrong number of landings?
I thought it was 30 days grace. Never looked that until I pulled up a
sales receipt to take to the store. Anyway, it was the APPLE staff
that told me it was hosed. You actually think I'm smart enough to do
that?
were told, Idiot.
We have no proof you were told that; only your word.
And your word isn't good.
All four of which you could have read about to construct your fable.
Also, these M1 Mac symptoms are documented by others.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-bad-is-the-m1-macs-ssd-failure-problem/ >>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252925077
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-pro-in-boot-loop.2306909/ >>>
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-pro-not-booting.2277851/
So typical. If YOU don’t think it’s true you just call it a lie.
So how did I get that video clip of my Mac boot looping?
You are right about one thing, I’m not capable of making it do that. It was all the Mac’s issue.
I’m wondering if iPhone video clips have GPS location in the metadata??? Anybody know?
On 2021-11-17 5:31 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 2:54:09 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 3:16 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 5:34:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and >>>>>>>> how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes
On 2021-11-15 1:26 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan
wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas
E. wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to
enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this
morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few
solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
You're (barely) smart enough to construct the lie that that's what youYou were always good with excuses, Liarboy Idiot (or is it "IdiotBecause such a monitor is useful whether or not you have ain case I need to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying
everything they knew to try they could not tell me
exactly what was wrong or how long it would take to fix
or replace. That included trying to get Boot Mode to
work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire
purchase. The rejected Sleep commands had happened
several times over the last few days. That should have
been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a
piece of Apple equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how
disappointing this experience has been. At least the
Apple Store rep was very understanding and
accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP
and restore a Quicken data file. Then I may look for a
new W11 laptop. There is also the issue with what to do
with the new monitor ordered for the Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On
Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for
the Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do >>>>>>> that if I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I
can supply that.
Mac, Idiot.
I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It
would not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM
EST post for details.
about your flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the
USB-C connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for
solutions to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than >>>>>> ask before returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
The logsheet entries you reference were filled out by my flight
instructor. I was too busy to count landings. There was no need
to exaggerate landings. There is no minimum required for a
license.
Liarboy"?)
Sorry, but your telling of the tale implies you were having the
I did not ask here because I never got any solutions. I figured
the Mac Genius crew would have an actual answer. They did. It
would not even boot to the recovery mode. It was hosed.
sleep problems before you could have formed that conclusion,
Idiot.
What I get is that you probably bought a unit as soon as they came
What was connected to the USB port? 2 external drives, including
Time Machine. That's all. It did the same thing at the Apple
Store with nothing connected. I tried it that way too, with and
without the charger connected, before I left for the store.
The Apple crew agreed it had serious issues. Get that through
your idiotic head Liarboy.
out hoping that there would be a problem with an early unit so you
could declare the whole thing a failure, knowing full well that
Apple's return policy would let you do it.
Is it any surprise to anyone that you bought a Mac on October 30
and precisely 15 days later--the last day that the policy would
allow it, you returned it for a refund?
As for the log entries, the person who signs it is responsible. The
instructor signed of on those entries. As far as I know they are
correct, but it was over 50 years ago. And, what incentive would he
or I have to enter the wrong number of landings?
I thought it was 30 days grace. Never looked that until I pulled up a >>> sales receipt to take to the store. Anyway, it was the APPLE staff
that told me it was hosed. You actually think I'm smart enough to do
that?
were told, Idiot.
We have no proof you were told that; only your word.
And your word isn't good.
Also, these M1 Mac symptoms are documented by others.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-bad-is-the-m1-macs-ssd-failure-problem/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252925077
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-pro-in-boot-loop.2306909/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-pro-not-booting.2277851/ >> All four of which you could have read about to construct your fable.
So typical. If YOU don’t think it’s true you just call it a lie.
So how did I get that video clip of my Mac boot looping?Don't know. Don't care.
You are right about one thing, I’m not capable of making it do that. It was all the Mac’s issue.Where did I say that?
I don't even know it's your video clip.
I’m wondering if iPhone video clips have GPS location in the metadata??? Anybody know?
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:supply that.
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep
mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot
loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothing
worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need >> to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything
they knew to try they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how >>> long it would take to fix or replace. That included trying to get
Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The
rejected Sleep commands had happened several times over the last few
days. That should have been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a piece of Apple
equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this
experience has been. At least the Apple Store rep was very
understanding and accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP and restore a
Quicken data file. Then I may look for a new W11 laptop. There is
also the issue with what to do with the new monitor ordered for the
Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for the Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do that if I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I can
Because such a monitor is useful whether or not you have a Mac, Idiot.
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It would not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM EST post for details.I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied about your
flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the USB-C
connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for solutions
to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than ask before
returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
On 2021-11-17 5:31 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 2:54:09 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 3:16 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 5:34:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:The Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and >>>>>>>> how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes
On 2021-11-15 1:26 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan
wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas
E. wrote:
I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to
enter Sleep mode. Then tried to start it up this
morning. It's stuck in a boot loop. I tried a few
solutions found in a web search, nothing worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
You're (barely) smart enough to construct the lie that that's what youYou were always good with excuses, Liarboy Idiot (or is it "IdiotBecause such a monitor is useful whether or not you have ain case I need to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying
everything they knew to try they could not tell me
exactly what was wrong or how long it would take to fix
or replace. That included trying to get Boot Mode to
work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire
purchase. The rejected Sleep commands had happened
several times over the last few days. That should have
been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a
piece of Apple equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how
disappointing this experience has been. At least the
Apple Store rep was very understanding and
accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP
and restore a Quicken data file. Then I may look for a
new W11 laptop. There is also the issue with what to do
with the new monitor ordered for the Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On
Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for
the Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do >>>>>>> that if I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I
can supply that.
Mac, Idiot.
I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It
would not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM
EST post for details.
about your flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the
USB-C connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for
solutions to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than >>>>>> ask before returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
The logsheet entries you reference were filled out by my flight
instructor. I was too busy to count landings. There was no need
to exaggerate landings. There is no minimum required for a
license.
Liarboy"?)
Sorry, but your telling of the tale implies you were having the
I did not ask here because I never got any solutions. I figured
the Mac Genius crew would have an actual answer. They did. It
would not even boot to the recovery mode. It was hosed.
sleep problems before you could have formed that conclusion,
Idiot.
What I get is that you probably bought a unit as soon as they came
What was connected to the USB port? 2 external drives, including
Time Machine. That's all. It did the same thing at the Apple
Store with nothing connected. I tried it that way too, with and
without the charger connected, before I left for the store.
The Apple crew agreed it had serious issues. Get that through
your idiotic head Liarboy.
out hoping that there would be a problem with an early unit so you
could declare the whole thing a failure, knowing full well that
Apple's return policy would let you do it.
Is it any surprise to anyone that you bought a Mac on October 30
and precisely 15 days later--the last day that the policy would
allow it, you returned it for a refund?
As for the log entries, the person who signs it is responsible. The
instructor signed of on those entries. As far as I know they are
correct, but it was over 50 years ago. And, what incentive would he
or I have to enter the wrong number of landings?
I thought it was 30 days grace. Never looked that until I pulled up a >>> sales receipt to take to the store. Anyway, it was the APPLE staff
that told me it was hosed. You actually think I'm smart enough to do
that?
were told, Idiot.
We have no proof you were told that; only your word.
And your word isn't good.
Also, these M1 Mac symptoms are documented by others.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-bad-is-the-m1-macs-ssd-failure-problem/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252925077
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-pro-in-boot-loop.2306909/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-pro-not-booting.2277851/ >> All four of which you could have read about to construct your fable.
So typical. If YOU don’t think it’s true you just call it a lie.
So how did I get that video clip of my Mac boot looping?Don't know. Don't care.
You are right about one thing, I’m not capable of making it do that. It was all the Mac’s issue.Where did I say that?
I don't even know it's your video clip.
On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 8:36:55 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
...
I don't even know it's your video clip.
I asked a simple question, the answer is yes or no, do you think I'm
savvy enough to make a M1 Mac boot loop.
Instead of an answer you dodged the question. You did that because
you cannot answer it yes or no. If yes you turn me into some kind of computer super-guru which I'm not. If you answer no then you admit
I'm right and it was the M1 that was boot looping on its own.
So which is it, yes or no?
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:supply that.
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote: >>>> I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep >>>> mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot >>>> loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothingThe Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and >> how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need >> to return it all.
worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything >>> they knew to try they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how >>> long it would take to fix or replace. That included trying to get
Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The
rejected Sleep commands had happened several times over the last few >>> days. That should have been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a piece of Apple >> equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this >>> experience has been. At least the Apple Store rep was very
understanding and accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP and restore a >>> Quicken data file. Then I may look for a new W11 laptop. There is
also the issue with what to do with the new monitor ordered for the >>> Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for the Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do that if I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I can
don't seem to know that the M1 Mac has important differences from prior versions. Or you are lying again.Because such a monitor is useful whether or not you have a Mac, Idiot.
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It would not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM EST post for details.I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied about your flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the USB-C connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for solutions
to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than ask before
returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>A couple of points.
That support article you cite refers to Intel Macs. It even says at the top "This article applies only to Mac computers with an Intel processor." Those key combinations don't work on the M1 version. I know. I found those and tried all. Apparently you
I did not ask CSMA because I then found an article on the M1 that showed my symptoms and said it had to go in for repair.hours later with no accidents or incidents I'm still flying. You cannot in any way demonstrate that those entries are not correct.
The M1 boot loop was demonstrated to Apple Store personnel on battery with nothing connected. That USB connection was to my hub connected only to 2 hard drives. It had nothing to do with the problem. The Mac could not even find the boot disk.
You stated that my video was a lie. I have shown in another post that it was made at me desk.
I did not lie in my flight logs. If they were in error it was the flight instructor's fault for his entries. He entered and signed those touch and go flights. We can't ask him. Grant died several years ago. He was a great teacher. 54 years and 3,600
On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 11:17:08 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 8:36:55 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
...
I don't even know it's your video clip.
I asked a simple question, the answer is yes or no, do you think I'm
savvy enough to make a M1 Mac boot loop.
Instead of an answer you dodged the question. You did that because
you cannot answer it yes or no. If yes you turn me into some kind of computer super-guru which I'm not. If you answer no then you admit
I'm right and it was the M1 that was boot looping on its own.
So which is it, yes or no?Neither, for you've created a false dichotomy.
Alan's point of "don't even know if its your video..." is noting that
other possibilities are that you found a video clip on the web of
the phenomena to imply or claim as your machine, or starting
with the same and doing some editing on it, etc.
Frankly, my assumption is that you just had a first generation
device hardware failure & were very aggressive on bailing on it.
-hh
On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 11:54:34 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 11:17:08 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 8:36:55 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
...
I don't even know it's your video clip.
I asked a simple question, the answer is yes or no, do you think I'm savvy enough to make a M1 Mac boot loop.
Instead of an answer you dodged the question. You did that because
you cannot answer it yes or no. If yes you turn me into some kind of computer super-guru which I'm not. If you answer no then you admit
I'm right and it was the M1 that was boot looping on its own.
So which is it, yes or no?
Neither, for you've created a false dichotomy.
Alan's point of "don't even know if its your video..." is noting that
other possibilities are that you found a video clip on the web of
the phenomena to imply or claim as your machine, or starting
with the same and doing some editing on it, etc.
Frankly, my assumption is that you just had a first generation
device hardware failure & were very aggressive on bailing on it.
Pretty much sums it up. More than anything else it was that Apple
promotes its products as vastly superior to the competition.
To have a failure like that is just unacceptable. It really triggered anger at a deep level.
As for Alan, what are the odds that I could have found exactly the same
thing on a video of 16" M1 Mac Pro that had been on the market only a
few weeks?
I'm still looking around for a new machine. The Mac was pretty
impressive and spoiled me for something more recent than my 4 year
old HP Envy. Then too is the whole W11 thing. With the Mac and my
current HP there is no clear path forward.
I loved the Mac UHD hi-res screen, the trackpad was the best I have
ever seen, great keyboard feel for both the Mac and the Magic, and
the build quality was otherwise just outstanding. But if it will not start
up it's a bit big and expensive for a paperweight.
I'm sure that if I replace the Mac with another Windows machine
Alan will scream LIARBOY from the CSMA rooftops.
I would love to have dinner with you if you are ever in the area.
Paula and I want to go to Maine next year, and maybe Canada if
we can. So, we may be headed east.
On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 11:12:56 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:supply that.
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote: >>>>>>> I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep >>>>>>> mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot >>>>>>> loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothingThe Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and >>>>> how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need >>>>> to return it all.
worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything >>>>>> they knew to try they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how >>>>>> long it would take to fix or replace. That included trying to get
Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The
rejected Sleep commands had happened several times over the last few >>>>>> days. That should have been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a piece of Apple >>>>> equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this >>>>>> experience has been. At least the Apple Store rep was very
understanding and accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP and restore a >>>>>> Quicken data file. Then I may look for a new W11 laptop. There is
also the issue with what to do with the new monitor ordered for the >>>>>> Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for the Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do that if I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I can
don't seem to know that the M1 Mac has important differences from prior versions. Or you are lying again.Because such a monitor is useful whether or not you have a Mac, Idiot.A couple of points.
I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied about your
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It would not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM EST post for details.
flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the USB-C
connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for solutions
to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than ask before
returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
That support article you cite refers to Intel Macs. It even says at the top "This article applies only to Mac computers with an Intel processor." Those key combinations don't work on the M1 version. I know. I found those and tried all. Apparently you
hours later with no accidents or incidents I'm still flying. You cannot in any way demonstrate that those entries are not correct.
I did not ask CSMA because I then found an article on the M1 that showed my symptoms and said it had to go in for repair.
The M1 boot loop was demonstrated to Apple Store personnel on battery with nothing connected. That USB connection was to my hub connected only to 2 hard drives. It had nothing to do with the problem. The Mac could not even find the boot disk.
You stated that my video was a lie. I have shown in another post that it was made at me desk.
I did not lie in my flight logs. If they were in error it was the flight instructor's fault for his entries. He entered and signed those touch and go flights. We can't ask him. Grant died several years ago. He was a great teacher. 54 years and 3,600
Just in case you question my flight instructor's credentials here is his obituary:
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/commercialappeal/name/grant-bales-obituary?id=9495967
He was instructing in Jackson TN when I was a student then moved to Memphis for a job change or promotion, not sure which. That was a sad day for me. I had to finish up with a different instructor.
Note that he was a FAA Wright Brothers award recipient. Not some fly-by-night CFI looking for enough hours to get an airline job. Grant was a professional and very good at his craft.
https://www.faasafety.gov/content/MasterPilot/
On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 11:54:34 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 11:17:08 AM UTC-5, Thomas E.
wrote:
On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 8:36:55 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:Neither, for you've created a false dichotomy.
...
I don't even know it's your video clip.
I asked a simple question, the answer is yes or no, do you think
I'm savvy enough to make a M1 Mac boot loop.
Instead of an answer you dodged the question. You did that
because you cannot answer it yes or no. If yes you turn me into
some kind of computer super-guru which I'm not. If you answer no
then you admit I'm right and it was the M1 that was boot looping
on its own.
So which is it, yes or no?
Alan's point of "don't even know if its your video..." is noting
that other possibilities are that you found a video clip on the web
of the phenomena to imply or claim as your machine, or starting
with the same and doing some editing on it, etc.
Frankly, my assumption is that you just had a first generation
device hardware failure & were very aggressive on bailing on it.
-hh
Pretty much sums it up. More than anything else it was that Apple
promotes its products as vastly superior to the competition. To have
a failure like that is just unacceptable. It really triggered anger
at a deep level.
As for Alan, what are the odds that I could have found exactly the
same thing on a video of 16" M1 Mac Pro that had been on the market
only a few weeks? I'm still looking around for a new machine. The Mac
was pretty impressive and spoiled me for something more recent than
my 4 year old HP Envy. Then too is the whole W11 thing. With the Mac
and my current HP there is no clear path forward. I will need Windows
apps that are not available on the Mac for some time to come.
I loved the Mac UHD hi-res screen, the trackpad was the best I have
ever seen, great keyboard feel for both the Mac and the Magic, and
the build quality was otherwise just outstanding. But if it will not
start up it's a bit big and expensive for a paperweight.
I'm sure that if I replace the Mac with another Windows machine Alan
will scream LIARBOY from the CSMA rooftops.
On 2021-11-18 10:22 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 11:54:34 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 11:17:08 AM UTC-5, Thomas E.
wrote:
On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 8:36:55 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:Neither, for you've created a false dichotomy.
...
I don't even know it's your video clip.
I asked a simple question, the answer is yes or no, do you think
I'm savvy enough to make a M1 Mac boot loop.
Instead of an answer you dodged the question. You did that
because you cannot answer it yes or no. If yes you turn me into
some kind of computer super-guru which I'm not. If you answer no
then you admit I'm right and it was the M1 that was boot looping
on its own.
So which is it, yes or no?
Alan's point of "don't even know if its your video..." is noting
that other possibilities are that you found a video clip on the web
of the phenomena to imply or claim as your machine, or starting
with the same and doing some editing on it, etc.
Frankly, my assumption is that you just had a first generation
device hardware failure & were very aggressive on bailing on it.
-hh
Pretty much sums it up. More than anything else it was that AppleYou think other companies don't have failures OOTB, Idiot?
promotes its products as vastly superior to the competition. To have
a failure like that is just unacceptable. It really triggered anger
at a deep level.
Do you have any data that Apple has any more than any other company?
As for Alan, what are the odds that I could have found exactly the
same thing on a video of 16" M1 Mac Pro that had been on the market
only a few weeks? I'm still looking around for a new machine. The Mac
was pretty impressive and spoiled me for something more recent than
my 4 year old HP Envy. Then too is the whole W11 thing. With the Mac
and my current HP there is no clear path forward. I will need Windows
apps that are not available on the Mac for some time to come.
I loved the Mac UHD hi-res screen, the trackpad was the best I haveAnd if it weren't so hugely in demand, replacing a DOA machine would
ever seen, great keyboard feel for both the Mac and the Magic, and
the build quality was otherwise just outstanding. But if it will not
start up it's a bit big and expensive for a paperweight.
have been simple and quick.
I'm sure that if I replace the Mac with another Windows machine AlanNope. I'm calling you Idiot, now.
will scream LIARBOY from the CSMA rooftops.
:-)
On 2021-11-18 10:07 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:supply that.
On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 11:12:56 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 12:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2021-11-15 9:12 a.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:01:28 AM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote: >>>>>>> I shut the Mac down last evening because it refused to enter Sleep >>>>>>> mode. Then tried to start it up this morning. It's stuck in a boot >>>>>>> loop. I tried a few solutions found in a web search, nothingThe Apple Store opens at 10. I hope they can show me what happened and >>>>> how to fix it. I'm taking everything back in their boxes in case I need
worked.
Proof:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D75C2IXHkyUoiRmAp9Cl7orG8m3wQVep/view?usp=sharing
to return it all.
Riiiiiight.
I'll update later.
Update. I spent an hour in the Apple Store. After trying everything >>>>>> they knew to try they could not tell me exactly what was wrong or how >>>>>> long it would take to fix or replace. That included trying to get >>>>>> Boot Mode to work.
I asked for and received a refund on the entire purchase. The
rejected Sleep commands had happened several times over the last few >>>>>> days. That should have been a sign that something was wrong.
They'd been happening for the last few days...
...but the idiot who bleats every problem he has with a piece of Apple >>>>> equipment never mentioned them.
You never intended to be a Mac owner, Idiot.
I'm no longer a Mac owner. You cannot believe how disappointing this >>>>>> experience has been. At least the Apple Store rep was very
understanding and accommodating.
Next up, move my Carbonite subscription back to the HP and restore a >>>>>> Quicken data file. Then I may look for a new W11 laptop. There is >>>>>> also the issue with what to do with the new monitor ordered for the >>>>>> Mac...
Oh, I should have known better. My bad.
I most certainly did intend to be a long term Mac owner. On Saturday I invested $400 in an upgraded UHD monitor just for the Macs hi-res display. It arrives Wednesday. Why would I do that if I intended to take it back today? Need any proof? I can
you don't seem to know that the M1 Mac has important differences from prior versions. Or you are lying again.Because such a monitor is useful whether or not you have a Mac, Idiot. >>>>A couple of points.
Did you even look at the video clip of the boot loop? It would not even boot to the boot drive list. See my 3:11 PM EST post for details.I assume all your videos and posts are lies since you lied about your >>> flight logs, Idiot.
Oh, and you didn't disconnect whatever was connected via the USB-C
connector on the left side...
...and strangely for the guy who was asking everyone here for solutions >>> to his problems, you suddenly went silent rather than ask before
returning the system.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295>
That support article you cite refers to Intel Macs. It even says at the top "This article applies only to Mac computers with an Intel processor." Those key combinations don't work on the M1 version. I know. I found those and tried all. Apparently
hours later with no accidents or incidents I'm still flying. You cannot in any way demonstrate that those entries are not correct.
I did not ask CSMA because I then found an article on the M1 that showed my symptoms and said it had to go in for repair.
The M1 boot loop was demonstrated to Apple Store personnel on battery with nothing connected. That USB connection was to my hub connected only to 2 hard drives. It had nothing to do with the problem. The Mac could not even find the boot disk.
You stated that my video was a lie. I have shown in another post that it was made at me desk.
I did not lie in my flight logs. If they were in error it was the flight instructor's fault for his entries. He entered and signed those touch and go flights. We can't ask him. Grant died several years ago. He was a great teacher. 54 years and 3,600
Just in case you question my flight instructor's credentials here is his obituary:
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/commercialappeal/name/grant-bales-obituary?id=9495967
He was instructing in Jackson TN when I was a student then moved to Memphis for a job change or promotion, not sure which. That was a sad day for me. I had to finish up with a different instructor.
Note that he was a FAA Wright Brothers award recipient. Not some fly-by-night CFI looking for enough hours to get an airline job. Grant was a professional and very good at his craft.
https://www.faasafety.gov/content/MasterPilot/
I don't give a good god damn who he was.
You posted false information and you always have an excuse for why doing
so isn't your fault.
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