• Re: Classic discussion between a normal person and the rather strange i

    From Thomas E.@21:1/5 to Wally J on Wed Nov 22 19:12:18 2023
    On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 6:43:42 PM UTC-5, Wally J wrote:
    Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the iKooks who are very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*).

    It starts out with a normal observation of fact that Apple never tells you.

    Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2023 18:09:11 -0800
    Subject: Re: Zero percent of current iPhones have basic hardware features that over 75% of modern Android models have
    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
    From: John <nos...@nospam.com>
    Message-ID: <4PicncL5iudaIsf4...@giganews.com>

    One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
    Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15
    Pro and other models do not support it. Therefore you have to buy an
    Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music. There is a legitimate gripe with Apple
    from an Apple fan.

    Then, after the iKooks deny all facts that they're unaware of, he patiently tries to re-explain, as if the iKooks own normal adult cognitive skills.

    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 12:57:50 -0800
    From: John <nos...@nospam.com>
    Message-ID: <iKudnXeQIvbT9sP4...@giganews.com>

    Apple devices like iPhone 15 do not support codecs like AptxHD
    which ARE REQUIRED for maximum performance with headphones while
    playing back 192/24 bit ALAC which Apple Music provides.
    My FIIO player does support that with Apple Music and sounds better.
    A lot.

    The iKooks continue to build strawmen that say essentially that no facts
    can exist that they, themselves, are ignorant of - to which he replies...

    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 13:02:42 -0800
    From: John <nos...@nospam.com>
    Message-ID: <PNacnf3BTOzv8cP4...@giganews.com>

    Further more intelligent people realize the bluetooth codec Apple uses
    to connect to its devices is just plain crude. Airpods Max do not
    support AptXHD or other advanced codecs and sound like crap compared to capable headphones like B and W PX8s. Its obvious Alan has absolutely
    ZERO audio background.

    And... as the iKooks continue to deny that facts can exist that Apple
    didn't advertise as facts (hence, they're completely unaware of them),
    he patiently keeps trying to explain to these ignorant iKooks...

    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:27:22 -0800
    From: John <nos...@nospam.com>
    Message-ID: <ut6cnfvGo5bWHcP4...@giganews.com>

    I am referring to the ability to get lossless support to the headphones.

    Apple codecs do NOT support transfer of lossless.
    Apple provides only a crude bluetooth capability.

    To get true high fidelity to the headphones requires AptX HD or
    something better OTHER than Apples Bluetooth.

    My FIIO player can take the lossless 192/24 bit from Apple Music
    and get it LOSSLESSLY to the the headphones.
    Which are something other than Apple products which do not support it.

    And... at some point, he was forced to dumb down the message to the child-like level of the iKooks - but even that failed to penetrate...

    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:52:46 -0800
    From: John <nos...@nospam.com>
    Message-ID: <clmdnSjudZKjG8P4...@giganews.com>

    The iphone DOES NOT support lossless music because it has no way
    to get audio to the headphones by something other than lossy bluetooth.

    And... he dumbed it again and again and again, assuming the iKooks just didn't understand (not realizing the iKooks claim that every fact they
    don't like, can't possibly be a fact - merely because they don't like it).

    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:29:22 -0800
    From: John <nos...@nospam.com>
    Message-ID: <ut6cnfrGo5ZfHcP4...@giganews.com>

    Prove Apple provides something other than lossy Bluetooth as a way to
    get wireless audio to headphones. You cannot. Android products do.

    No matter how many times he says a fact, the iKooks deny it.

    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:51:05 -0800
    From: John <nos...@nospam.com>
    Message-ID: <clmdnSnudZJEGMP4...@giganews.com>

    It is completely accurate. Apple Music supports 192/24 bit but Apple products like iPhone and Airpods Max do not support it. As the iPhone
    uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external headphones.
    Completely accurate statement and easily understandable
    unless one is an idiot.

    You should see the childish fabricated excuses the iKooks responded with. Why?

    Because iKooks hate all facts about Apple products.

    Why all facts?
    Because any fact about Apple product is something they've never seen.

    Why not?
    Because iKooks only get their "information" from Apple advertisements.

    One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris Schram saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" simply because they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware technology.
    --
    The problem with iKooks is that they hate all facts about Apple products.

    WTF? iPhone audio is perfectly fine for the average person, including my orchestra violinist spouse.

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