On 10/6/2023 10:30 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-10-06 09:32, AJL wrote:
On 10/5/2023 11:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
A peeve she had was with lots of adverts on the browser. Turned
out that she was using Chrome.
Where are the ads located? There's no ads in my Chrome browsers
(Windows and Android).
Anywhere in the pages.
If you mean web page ads brought up by the Chrome browser that's not
Chrome's fault. Chrome itself has no ads.
I installed Firefox with uBlock Origin, and that was a
difference.
uBlock Origin is an available extension for the Chrome browser.
Possibly... I'm not familiar with Chrome myself.
Ah. You might try using Chrome a bit before complaining about it.
In Linux, my normal browsing is with Firefox. When some page refuses
to work with Chrome (there are some) then I switch to Chrome, not
blocking anything so that the page does work.
Problem is, she is really used to Chrome integration with google
tools.
Sounds like the ads were coming from outside the browser or perhaps
it had been hacked. Do a little more checking and give her her
browser back...
I can't, there is a big pond between us.
Too bad. It appears you messed her up and now can't fix it.
I see similar adverts myself when I don't use an add blocker in the
browser.
True for most all browsers. Your statement above that Chrome was the
cause of your friend's ad problem was false...
adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.chromecom.sec.android.app.chromecustomizations
adb shell pm uninstall --user 0
AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote
On 10/6/2023 10:30 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-10-06 09:32, AJL wrote:
On 10/5/2023 11:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
A peeve she had was with lots of adverts on the browser. Turned
out that she was using Chrome.
Where are the ads located? There's no ads in my Chrome browsers
(Windows and Android).
Anywhere in the pages.
If you mean web page ads brought up by the Chrome browser that's not
Chrome's fault. Chrome itself has no ads.
I installed Firefox with uBlock Origin, and that was a
difference.
uBlock Origin is an available extension for the Chrome browser.
Possibly... I'm not familiar with Chrome myself.
Ah. You might try using Chrome a bit before complaining about it.
In Linux, my normal browsing is with Firefox. When some page refuses
to work with Chrome (there are some) then I switch to Chrome, not
blocking anything so that the page does work.
Problem is, she is really used to Chrome integration with google
tools.
Sounds like the ads were coming from outside the browser or perhaps
it had been hacked. Do a little more checking and give her her
browser back...
I can't, there is a big pond between us.
Too bad. It appears you messed her up and now can't fix it.
I see similar adverts myself when I don't use an add blocker in the
browser.
True for most all browsers. Your statement above that Chrome was the
cause of your friend's ad problem was false...
To strive to add further value to those correct statements by AJL...
I agree that the "ads" are likely coming not from the browser,
but most likely those ads are coming from the pages visited.
Note that there are Chrome-based browsers which block ads
by default such as Epic Privacy Browser (or something similar).
*Epic Privacy Browser* (no ads)
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.epic.browser>
The other problem is Chrome itself (which I'll assume you know about).
Hence a related suggestion for those reading this stuff about Chrome,
is 1st & foremost to get native chrome stuff off your user partition.
adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.chromecom.sec.android.app.chromecustomizations
adb shell pm uninstall --user 0
Yes... there are "chrome customizations"... whatever they are...
Then I'd install Ungoogled Chromium (or Bromite) instead.
<https://www.bromite.org/>
<https://github.com/bromite/bromite>
Lot's of reasons why...
Dorper <usenet@dorper.me> wrote
Chrome is baked into Android System WebView the same way that WebKit is
baked into iOS.
WebView? I had never heard of Android System WebView before.
Chrome is baked into Android System WebView the same way that WebKit is
baked into iOS.
Dorper <usenet@dorper.me> wrote
Chrome is baked into Android System WebView the same way that WebKit is
baked into iOS.
WebView? I had never heard of Android System WebView before.
It was here.
<https://i.postimg.cc/8kfsyKdV/webview01.jpg> WebView is here
Now it's gone.
<https://i.postimg.cc/dtLBhFqh/webview02.jpg> WebView is gone
I am not ashamed to say I've never heard of Android System WebView
(although I'm all too familiar with Apple's walled-garden WebKit).
a. Ignorance can be cured (rather easily);
b. It's stupidity that can't be cured.
Thank you for bringing up Android System WebView so we can learn from you. And thank you for making the (presumed) "equivalence" with Apple's WebKit.
This presumed equivalence may be true. Or it may not be true.
I'd have to know more since I never looked up Android System WebView.
To find out more about what WebView does for Android 10 and up,
and to then compare & contrast it with WebKit, I opened this thread.
*Compare & contrast Apple's WebKit with Google's Android System WebView*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/hKRmO7SdoUI>
Thank you for bringing up a fact and an assessment of that fact, where I
will discuss that further with you when I learn more of the facts.
FACT: "Chrome is baked into Android System WebView..."
ASSESSMENT: "...the same way that WebKit is baked into iOS."
I don't think you understand how dynamic linking works. An app doesn't include a copy of WebView, it uses the system version of WebView, which is Chrome. It's primary use is not for web browsers but instead to render rich text, HTML, and most importantly, Google® DoubleClick (Business Model: Uber
for Data Mining) Advertisements!
On 10/6/23 22:38, Dorper wrote:
I don't think you understand how dynamic linking works. An app doesn't
include a copy of WebView, it uses the system version of WebView, which is >> Chrome. It's primary use is not for web browsers but instead to render rich >> text, HTML, and most importantly, Google® DoubleClick (Business Model: Uber
for Data Mining) Advertisements!
So, could you theoretically fork WebView and patch it out?
On 10/6/23, 8:46 PM, in article ufqkb9$1vve7$1@dont-email.me, "candycanearter07" <no@thanks.net> wrote:
So, could you theoretically fork WebView and patch it out?
Patch what out? WebView? Theoretically yes (you would need to root your phone, unlock the bootloader, find a project that supports your phone model, etc.) but it would mean that your phone would be unable to render HTML.
Which happens a lot more than you'd think.
On 10/6/23 22:59, Dorper wrote:
On 10/6/23, 8:46 PM, in article ufqkb9$1vve7$1@dont-email.me,
"candycanearter07" <no@thanks.net> wrote:
So, could you theoretically fork WebView and patch it out?
Patch what out? WebView? Theoretically yes (you would need to root your
phone, unlock the bootloader, find a project that supports your phone
model,
etc.) but it would mean that your phone would be unable to render HTML.
Which happens a lot more than you'd think.
I mean like replace WebView with something less invasive (if it could be done)
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