• Re: Fix the Most Annoying iOS 17 Features

    From Wally J@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Tue Sep 19 22:50:49 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    I don't have iTunes and refuse to install it. And I don’t have a Mac so I >>> guess it’s impossible otherwise.

    It's apple's way or no way. Welcome to the garden.

    Android is right down the alley, next to the dumpster. Enjoy.

    The problem with iOS is it is _designed_ for people who can't do anything.\

    The fact is my free 3-year-old Android is more powerful and safer than any iPhone ever made, Jolly Roger - because the iPhone can't do anything.

    And that free Android has longer support than any iPhone ever made.
    Two to three times fewer zero-day holes.
    Ten times fewer exploits too.
    --
    HINT: iOS is a toy operating system filled with zero-day exploited holes.

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to nospam on Tue Sep 19 22:58:56 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote

    I dont have iTunes and refuse to install it. And I dont have a Mac so I
    guess its impossible otherwise.

    your choice, but that's how to downgrade. you might be able to go to an
    apple store and 'borrow' a mac there.

    The reason iOS can't do thousands of useful things is... the walled garden.

    The same ever-present walled garden Alan Browne swears doesn't exist.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Wally J on Tue Sep 19 22:07:02 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 9/19/23 21:58, Wally J wrote:
    The reason iOS can't do thousands of useful things is... the walled garden.

    The same ever-present walled garden Alan Browne swears doesn't exist.

    Yeah, it feels like you're renting the device sometimes..
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Wally J on Wed Sep 20 00:31:30 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-09-19 19:50, Wally J wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    I don't have iTunes and refuse to install it. And I don’t have a Mac so I
    guess it’s impossible otherwise.

    It's apple's way or no way. Welcome to the garden.

    Android is right down the alley, next to the dumpster. Enjoy.

    The problem with iOS is it is _designed_ for people who can't do anything.\

    The fact is my free 3-year-old Android is more powerful and safer than any iPhone ever made, Jolly Roger - because the iPhone can't do anything.

    Well that's just a lie...

    ...from a liar.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Thu Sep 21 06:10:11 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    On 9/19/23 21:58, Wally J wrote:
    The reason iOS can't do thousands of useful things is... the walled garden. >>
    The same ever-present walled garden Alan Browne swears doesn't exist.

    Yeah, it feels like you're renting the device sometimes..

    I really don't understand this attitude.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu Sep 21 08:53:25 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-09-21 02:10, Chris wrote:

    I really don't understand this attitude.

    Keeping the myth of the Apple walled garden alive is a powerful tool
    Android fanbois use with the weak minded.

    --
    “Markets can remain irrational longer than your can remain solvent.”
    - John Maynard Keynes.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Thu Sep 21 13:20:28 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Alan Browne wrote:

    On 2023-09-21 02:10, Chris wrote:

    I really don't understand this attitude.

    Keeping the myth of the Apple walled garden alive is a powerful tool
    Android fanbois use with the weak minded.

    https://www.computerworld.com/article/3682761/apple-looks-poised-to-open-its-walled-garden-in-2023.html

    --
    "Defeat is worse than death because you have to live with defeat." ~
    Bill Musselman

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu Sep 21 11:12:33 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote

    Clearly not true. iOS 14 hasn't had an update in nearly two years whereas >>> 15 and 16 have had several. If you want a fully patched ios, it needs to be >>> the most recent or next most recent for a short time.


    But the most recent works on phones bought up to 6 years ago, agreed?

    Not the point badgolferman was making.

    nospam responded that upgrading to ios 17 was optional if you didn't like some features, however, you only get all security/software updates with ios 17.

    Wow. Someone on this newsgroup (in this case, Chris) actually understands.

    The ignorant iKooks like Alan Baker & nospam can't comprehend that they incessantly claim Apple gives long-term hotfix support and yet all the
    iKooks are completely ignorant that full support is only on _one_ release!

    At least Chris understood that concept. Kudos to Chris.

    For those who comprehend what it means to support an operating system...
    *Apple OS support is the _shortest_ in the industry*

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