...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save favorite places in
Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination or scroll to
select a destination you saved in a collection. (See Organize places in
My Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to speak a search
phrase, or select the Keyboard button to use the onscreen keyboard (if available). You can also select a destination from a category of nearby services, such as Parking or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios>
Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting "Search" using Siri.
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save favorite places
in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination or scroll to
select a destination you saved in a collection. (See Organize
places in My Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to speak a search
phrase, or select the Keyboard button to use the onscreen keyboard
(if available). You can also select a destination from a category
of nearby services, such as Parking or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios>
Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something
like: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop” “Call Eliza Block” “Play more songs like this one” “Show me the map” “What’s my next meeting?” “What’s the weather for today?”
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands to work on
CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on my iPad or
iPhone the street number also drops out. It worked for you. Maybe
voice recognition issue?
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save favorite places
in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination or scroll to
select a destination you saved in a collection. (See Organize
places in My Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to speak a search
phrase, or select the Keyboard button to use the onscreen keyboard
(if available). You can also select a destination from a category
of nearby services, such as Parking or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios>
Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say somethingThat shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
like: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop” “Call Eliza Block”
“Play more songs like this one” “Show me the map” “What’s my next
meeting?” “What’s the weather for today?”
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral such as a printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice recognition facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use speech-to-text.
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands to work on
CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on my iPad orOperator error, or...
iPhone the street number also drops out. It worked for you. Maybe
voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up or shut up, you
lying Little Shit.
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 1:12:36 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save favorite
places in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination or scroll
to select a destination you saved in a collection. (See
Organize places in My Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to speak a
search phrase, or select the Keyboard button to use the
onscreen keyboard (if available). You can also select a
destination from a category of nearby services, such as Parking
or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios>
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
like: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop” “Call ElizaThat shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
Block” “Play more songs like this one” “Show me the map” “What’s
my next meeting?” “What’s the weather for today?”
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral such as a
printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice recognition
facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use speech-to-text.
Operator error, or...
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands to work on
CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on my iPad
or iPhone the street number also drops out. It worked for you.
Maybe voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up or shut up,
you lying Little Shit.
So, I now understand that you can use Apple Maps (and other Apple
apps) with Siri turned off by using the mic icon in the search bar.
Good to know. Thanks for pointing that out.
I have also discovered that you can use Google Maps with voice search
by speaking Hey Siri/Hey Google asking for directions to an address.
That brings up Google maps with spoken directions with no manual
interaction.
That does not work within CarPlay though. Siri says you
can't use Google search while driving. Good to know too.
So, let me get this all straight before I make any more videos.
You: " That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay." Me: (Please
at least spell CarPlay correctly!)
Me: You claim that I can turn off Siri and still use CarPlay by
opening Apple Maps in CarPlay and typing in a destination?
You: Post a video with sound showing the 12999 address error with
Siri lookup and you will admit it's really an error?
Here is what I plan to do: 1. Use a second phone to record the video
in order to capture sound. 2. Turn off Siri. 3. Use the mic in the
Maps search bar to try and find the 12999 address by dictation only.
4. Turn Siri back on. 5. Retraining Siri voice recognition is
required, and will be performed. 6. Use Siri to try and find the
12999 address.
On 2023-05-15 04:30, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 1:12:36 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save favorite
places in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination or scroll
to select a destination you saved in a collection. (See
Organize places in My Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to speak a
search phrase, or select the Keyboard button to use the
onscreen keyboard (if available). You can also select a
destination from a category of nearby services, such as Parking
or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios>
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
like: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop” “Call ElizaThat shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
Block” “Play more songs like this one” “Show me the map” “What’s
my next meeting?” “What’s the weather for today?”
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral such as a
printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice recognition
facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use speech-to-text.
Operator error, or...
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands to work on
CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on my iPad
or iPhone the street number also drops out. It worked for you.
Maybe voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up or shut up,
you lying Little Shit.
So, I now understand that you can use Apple Maps (and other AppleIt was utterly obvious, but you're wellcome.
apps) with Siri turned off by using the mic icon in the search bar.
Good to know. Thanks for pointing that out.
I have also discovered that you can use Google Maps with voice searchSorry, but I would like to see a video of you bringing up Google Maps
by speaking Hey Siri/Hey Google asking for directions to an address.
That brings up Google maps with spoken directions with no manual interaction.
with "Hey Google" on an iPhone.
That does not work within CarPlay though. Siri says you
can't use Google search while driving. Good to know too.
So, let me get this all straight before I make any more videos.
You: " That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay." Me: (Please
at least spell CarPlay correctly!)
Me: You claim that I can turn off Siri and still use CarPlay byI would expect so, yes. Frankly, I'd expect you could still use voice-to-text, but I don't know precisely how it works because I haven't
opening Apple Maps in CarPlay and typing in a destination?
had a lot of opportunity to play with CarPlay as my BMW doesn't have it.
You: Post a video with sound showing the 12999 address error withI wrote nothing remotely like that.
Siri lookup and you will admit it's really an error?
Here is what I plan to do: 1. Use a second phone to record the videoHow about you do the last part first, Little Shit?
in order to capture sound. 2. Turn off Siri. 3. Use the mic in the
Maps search bar to try and find the 12999 address by dictation only.
4. Turn Siri back on. 5. Retraining Siri voice recognition is
required, and will be performed. 6. Use Siri to try and find the
12999 address.
How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
...hmmm?
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:37:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
On 2023-05-15 04:30, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 1:12:36 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save favorite
places in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination or
scroll to select a destination you saved in a collection.
(See Organize places in My Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to speak
a search phrase, or select the Keyboard button to use the
onscreen keyboard (if available). You can also select a
destination from a category of nearby services, such as
Parking or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios>
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
It was utterly obvious, but you're wellcome.like: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop” “CallThat shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
Eliza Block” “Play more songs like this one” “Show me the
map” “What’s my next meeting?” “What’s the weather for
today?”
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral such as a
printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice recognition
facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use
speech-to-text.
Operator error, or...
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands to work
on CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on my
iPad or iPhone the street number also drops out. It worked
for you. Maybe voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up or shut
up, you lying Little Shit.
So, I now understand that you can use Apple Maps (and other
Apple apps) with Siri turned off by using the mic icon in the
search bar. Good to know. Thanks for pointing that out.
Sorry, but I would like to see a video of you bringing up Google
I have also discovered that you can use Google Maps with voice
search by speaking Hey Siri/Hey Google asking for directions to
an address. That brings up Google maps with spoken directions
with no manual interaction.
Maps with "Hey Google" on an iPhone.
That does not work within CarPlay though. Siri says you can't useI would expect so, yes. Frankly, I'd expect you could still use
Google search while driving. Good to know too.
So, let me get this all straight before I make any more videos.
You: " That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay." Me:
(Please at least spell CarPlay correctly!)
Me: You claim that I can turn off Siri and still use CarPlay by
opening Apple Maps in CarPlay and typing in a destination?
voice-to-text, but I don't know precisely how it works because I
haven't had a lot of opportunity to play with CarPlay as my BMW
doesn't have it.
I wrote nothing remotely like that.
You: Post a video with sound showing the 12999 address error
with Siri lookup and you will admit it's really an error?
How about you do the last part first, Little Shit?
Here is what I plan to do: 1. Use a second phone to record the
video in order to capture sound. 2. Turn off Siri. 3. Use the mic
in the Maps search bar to try and find the 12999 address by
dictation only. 4. Turn Siri back on. 5. Retraining Siri voice
recognition is required, and will be performed. 6. Use Siri to
try and find the 12999 address.
How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
...hmmm?
Well, I have had 4 years of CarPlay experience spread over 3 cars. My
Honda Insight, the current Accord and the wife's 2015 CRV with a
retrofit Pioneer entertainment system/wireless CarPlay have taught me
a lot. At least you were honest about lack of first hand knowledge.
Hint, CarPlay has no non-Siri option. As I show in the video below
CarPlay will not even run unless Siri is active on your controlling
iPhone. Siri is the only CarPlay voice command.
Hello Google verbal
search is not permitted on the CarPlay platform.
FYI you can get to
Google Maps verbal search with 3 finger touches: Map
screen/Search/Microphone icon is the touch combination once Google
Maps is in full screen mode.
If not on CarPlay no touching is
required for Google Maps directions:
Hey Siri/Hey Google/Go to <say
destination address> takes you to Google Maps with the route up on
Google Maps and ready to be started from current location. Why not on CarPlay? Apple wants you to use THEIR inferior voice response and
Maps. If you are already in the Maps app and make a Siri destination
request why does Siri need "navigate to..."? Makes no sense to me.
Sorry it took a few days, but here is the detailed Car Play video
with narration. In the car, in the garage and out, using Siri/Apple
Maps and Google/Google Maps. Siri fails on multiple levels. Car Play
will not even run unless Siri is enabled. Why? Google Maps needs 3
tries to find bakerMedia, but otherwise flawless.
It's a lot more detailed and honest video than your attempt by
someone with limited experience. Note that the upload finished at
about 1720 EDT today 19 May. It takes Google some time to do their
processing and make it playable from the cloud. Suggest you wait a
few hours before trying access. 1.28 GB 60 FPS 1080p HD.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SDYVyHb79Qf1mk97NDUOxAxbIQ9zmsoS/view?usp=share_link
How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
On 2023-05-19 14:33, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:37:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
On 2023-05-15 04:30, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 1:12:36 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save favorite
places in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination or
scroll to select a destination you saved in a collection.
(See Organize places in My Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to speak
a search phrase, or select the Keyboard button to use the
onscreen keyboard (if available). You can also select a
destination from a category of nearby services, such as
Parking or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios> >>>>>>
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
It was utterly obvious, but you're wellcome.like: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop” “CallThat shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
Eliza Block” “Play more songs like this one” “Show me the >>>>> map” “What’s my next meeting?” “What’s the weather for >>>>> today?”
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral such as a
printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice recognition
facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use
speech-to-text.
Operator error, or...
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands to work
on CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on my
iPad or iPhone the street number also drops out. It worked
for you. Maybe voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up or shut
up, you lying Little Shit.
So, I now understand that you can use Apple Maps (and other
Apple apps) with Siri turned off by using the mic icon in the
search bar. Good to know. Thanks for pointing that out.
Sorry, but I would like to see a video of you bringing up Google
I have also discovered that you can use Google Maps with voice
search by speaking Hey Siri/Hey Google asking for directions to
an address. That brings up Google maps with spoken directions
with no manual interaction.
Maps with "Hey Google" on an iPhone.
That does not work within CarPlay though. Siri says you can't useI would expect so, yes. Frankly, I'd expect you could still use
Google search while driving. Good to know too.
So, let me get this all straight before I make any more videos.
You: " That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay." Me:
(Please at least spell CarPlay correctly!)
Me: You claim that I can turn off Siri and still use CarPlay by
opening Apple Maps in CarPlay and typing in a destination?
voice-to-text, but I don't know precisely how it works because I
haven't had a lot of opportunity to play with CarPlay as my BMW
doesn't have it.
I wrote nothing remotely like that.
You: Post a video with sound showing the 12999 address error
with Siri lookup and you will admit it's really an error?
How about you do the last part first, Little Shit?
Here is what I plan to do: 1. Use a second phone to record the
video in order to capture sound. 2. Turn off Siri. 3. Use the mic
in the Maps search bar to try and find the 12999 address by
dictation only. 4. Turn Siri back on. 5. Retraining Siri voice
recognition is required, and will be performed. 6. Use Siri to
try and find the 12999 address.
How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
...hmmm?
Well, I have had 4 years of CarPlay experience spread over 3 cars. My Honda Insight, the current Accord and the wife's 2015 CRV with aYes. I am by my nature, very honest.
retrofit Pioneer entertainment system/wireless CarPlay have taught me
a lot. At least you were honest about lack of first hand knowledge.
Hint, CarPlay has no non-Siri option. As I show in the video belowSo that is a CHOICE Apple has made; most likely because they want you to
CarPlay will not even run unless Siri is active on your controlling iPhone. Siri is the only CarPlay voice command.
not interact with a touchscreen unless there is no other way.
Hello Google verbalSo? How is that relevant?
search is not permitted on the CarPlay platform.
FYI you can get toYup. iOS. Map screen, tap text entry box, tap microphone icon in keyboard.
Google Maps verbal search with 3 finger touches: Map screen/Search/Microphone icon is the touch combination once Google
Maps is in full screen mode.
If not on CarPlay no touching isStop mixing these two things up.
required for Google Maps directions:
Hey Siri/Hey Google/Go to <sayBecause, you incredible simpleton:
destination address> takes you to Google Maps with the route up on
Google Maps and ready to be started from current location. Why not on CarPlay? Apple wants you to use THEIR inferior voice response and
Maps. If you are already in the Maps app and make a Siri destination request why does Siri need "navigate to..."? Makes no sense to me.
SIRI IS NOT JUST VOICE RECOGNITION.
You can use Siri while you happen to be looking at the Maps app...
...because Siri can do other things!
You're not using Google's equivalent of Siri when you tap the microphone icon from within Google maps. That is equivalent to tapping the
microphone icon in Apple
Sorry it took a few days, but here is the detailed Car Play video
with narration. In the car, in the garage and out, using Siri/Apple
Maps and Google/Google Maps. Siri fails on multiple levels. Car Play
will not even run unless Siri is enabled. Why? Google Maps needs 3
tries to find bakerMedia, but otherwise flawless.
It's a lot more detailed and honest video than your attempt by
someone with limited experience. Note that the upload finished at
about 1720 EDT today 19 May. It takes Google some time to do their processing and make it playable from the cloud. Suggest you wait a
few hours before trying access. 1.28 GB 60 FPS 1080p HD.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SDYVyHb79Qf1mk97NDUOxAxbIQ9zmsoS/view?usp=share_linkSo, just by retraining "Hey Siri", you should know that Siri does a lot
more than just allow you to get directions.
And you said "Go to" when I EXPLICITLY told you what to say:
Why? Because you are a liar done to your core.How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
Note an issue that you need to consider:
Can Siri tell if you said:
"go to one two nine nine nine"
or
"go two one two nine nine nine"
...hmmm?
And show a different outcome for your home address...
...because you used a different method to invoke Siri.
You it the "Search" button within the Maps app, so Siri already knows
that whatever you say next is going to be a destination. The clue was
Siri saying "Directions to where?".
And "Corsair Field, Danville Indiana" is a VERY obscure CLUB. Not a
business at all.
"Indianapolis R/C flyers, [mumble]town" is actually called "Indianapolis
R/C MODELLERS", but that was just an error on your part, right, Little Shit?
And this isn't about Siri being perfect. It's about you (now)
deliberately misusing it to try to "prove" your points.
But you'd better use Google Maps in CarPlay while you're parked, him...
...anyone can see how long your attention would have to be on a
touchscreen rather than on the road.
As for not finding "baker media vancouver"...
...the only possible purpose for that is your continued attempt to
stalk/dox me.
And Siri's successes and failures have NOTHING to do with whether you
are inside or outside your garage.
If you think any of this is at all based on "cell reception", you're not just a liar... ...you're an ignoramus. Siri, Apple Maps (and not it
isn't "Apple Maps in Siri"; that's just another stunning
misunderstanding of what is going on) and Google Maps both use
voice-to-text processing to convert what you say into text and then used their designed processes to search their respective databases for an answer.
Apple's location database doesn't have "Corsair Field, Danville Indiana"
in it. It has nothing to with Siri whatsoever. Try typing it in on your
iPad or iPhone and you'll get precisely the same result.
Now,
How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
And how about you admit that I showed you a video of my iPhone working perfectly. (Although, I do admit that it gets confused by
"Carmel"—because of "Carmel-by-the-sea" being so much closer to me—and so I say "Indianapolis")
But my bet is that you did try out my explicit instructions and they DID work.
So that's why you deliberately set out to make Siri fail by saying "go to".
One thing that I will say to you (much more for the benefit of others)
is that you can vary how long Siri will wait for to keep speaking (how
long you can pause while you collect your thoughts) but you need to find that under Settings:Accessibility:Siri, not under "Siri & Search" (which
is a little dumb).
BTW, you can turn on the option to have Siri always show what it has interpreted as what you spoke. When I did that for your "go to/two/too
one two nine nine nine pennsylvania street", it shows very quickly what happened.
Also, BTW. Siri would happily give you "driving directions to manor care carmel indiana" (replying "Getting driving directions to HCR
ManorCare..." And despite all the obscure little clubs Apple Maps didn't have data for, you somehow just overlooked that option, huh?
Also, also, BTW, your vaunted Google Maps fails utterly to find YOUR business... ...even if I type it in so there can be no error. "FXXXXXXN LLC"
Interesting you were happy to dox me, but didn't want to show that in
your video, did you?
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
On 2023-05-19 14:33, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:37:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-15 04:30, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 1:12:36 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan
wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save
favorite places in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination
or scroll to select a destination you saved in a
collection. (See Organize places in My Guides in Maps
on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to
speak a search phrase, or select the Keyboard button to
use the onscreen keyboard (if available). You can also
select a destination from a category of nearby
services, such as Parking or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios> >>>>>>>>
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on mylike: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop” “CallThat shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
Eliza Block” “Play more songs like this one” “Show me
the map” “What’s my next meeting?” “What’s the weather >>>>>>> for today?”
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral such
as a printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice
recognition facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use
speech-to-text.
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands to
work on CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/
So, just by retraining "Hey Siri", you should know that Siri does a lotYes. I am by my nature, very honest.It was utterly obvious, but you're wellcome.iPad or iPhone the street number also drops out. ItOperator error, or...
worked for you. Maybe voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up or
shut up, you lying Little Shit.
So, I now understand that you can use Apple Maps (and other
Apple apps) with Siri turned off by using the mic icon in
the search bar. Good to know. Thanks for pointing that out.
Sorry, but I would like to see a video of you bringing up
I have also discovered that you can use Google Maps with
voice search by speaking Hey Siri/Hey Google asking for
directions to an address. That brings up Google maps with
spoken directions with no manual interaction.
Google Maps with "Hey Google" on an iPhone.
That does not work within CarPlay though. Siri says you can'tI would expect so, yes. Frankly, I'd expect you could still
use Google search while driving. Good to know too.
So, let me get this all straight before I make any more
videos.
You: " That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay." Me:
(Please at least spell CarPlay correctly!)
Me: You claim that I can turn off Siri and still use CarPlay
by opening Apple Maps in CarPlay and typing in a
destination?
use voice-to-text, but I don't know precisely how it works
because I haven't had a lot of opportunity to play with CarPlay
as my BMW doesn't have it.
I wrote nothing remotely like that.
You: Post a video with sound showing the 12999 address error
with Siri lookup and you will admit it's really an error?
How about you do the last part first, Little Shit?
Here is what I plan to do: 1. Use a second phone to record
the video in order to capture sound. 2. Turn off Siri. 3. Use
the mic in the Maps search bar to try and find the 12999
address by dictation only. 4. Turn Siri back on. 5.
Retraining Siri voice recognition is required, and will be
performed. 6. Use Siri to try and find the 12999 address.
How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
...hmmm?
Well, I have had 4 years of CarPlay experience spread over 3
cars. My Honda Insight, the current Accord and the wife's 2015
CRV with a retrofit Pioneer entertainment system/wireless CarPlay
have taught me a lot. At least you were honest about lack of
first hand knowledge.
Hint, CarPlay has no non-Siri option. As I show in the videoSo that is a CHOICE Apple has made; most likely because they want
below CarPlay will not even run unless Siri is active on your
controlling iPhone. Siri is the only CarPlay voice command.
you to not interact with a touchscreen unless there is no other
way.
Hello Google verbal search is not permitted on the CarPlaySo? How is that relevant?
platform.
FYI you can get to Google Maps verbal search with 3 fingerYup. iOS. Map screen, tap text entry box, tap microphone icon in
touches: Map screen/Search/Microphone icon is the touch
combination once Google Maps is in full screen mode.
keyboard.
If not on CarPlay no touching is required for Google MapsStop mixing these two things up.
directions:
Hey Siri/Hey Google/Go to <say destination address> takes you toBecause, you incredible simpleton:
Google Maps with the route up on Google Maps and ready to be
started from current location. Why not on CarPlay? Apple wants
you to use THEIR inferior voice response and Maps. If you are
already in the Maps app and make a Siri destination request why
does Siri need "navigate to..."? Makes no sense to me.
SIRI IS NOT JUST VOICE RECOGNITION.
You can use Siri while you happen to be looking at the Maps app...
...because Siri can do other things!
You're not using Google's equivalent of Siri when you tap the
microphone icon from within Google maps. That is equivalent to
tapping the microphone icon in Apple
Sorry it took a few days, but here is the detailed Car Play
video with narration. In the car, in the garage and out, using
Siri/Apple Maps and Google/Google Maps. Siri fails on multiple
levels. Car Play will not even run unless Siri is enabled. Why?
Google Maps needs 3 tries to find bakerMedia, but otherwise
flawless.
It's a lot more detailed and honest video than your attempt by
someone with limited experience. Note that the upload finished
at about 1720 EDT today 19 May. It takes Google some time to do
their processing and make it playable from the cloud. Suggest you
wait a few hours before trying access. 1.28 GB 60 FPS 1080p HD.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SDYVyHb79Qf1mk97NDUOxAxbIQ9zmsoS/view?usp=share_link
more than just allow you to get directions.
And you said "Go to" when I EXPLICITLY told you what to say:
Why? Because you are a liar done to your core.How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
Note an issue that you need to consider:
Can Siri tell if you said:
"go to one two nine nine nine"
or
"go two one two nine nine nine"
...hmmm?
And show a different outcome for your home address...
...because you used a different method to invoke Siri.
You it the "Search" button within the Maps app, so Siri already
knows that whatever you say next is going to be a destination. The
clue was Siri saying "Directions to where?".
And "Corsair Field, Danville Indiana" is a VERY obscure CLUB. Not
a business at all.
"Indianapolis R/C flyers, [mumble]town" is actually called
"Indianapolis R/C MODELLERS", but that was just an error on your
part, right, Little Shit?
And this isn't about Siri being perfect. It's about you (now)
deliberately misusing it to try to "prove" your points.
But you'd better use Google Maps in CarPlay while you're parked,
him...
...anyone can see how long your attention would have to be on a
touchscreen rather than on the road.
As for not finding "baker media vancouver"...
...the only possible purpose for that is your continued attempt to
stalk/dox me.
And Siri's successes and failures have NOTHING to do with whether
you are inside or outside your garage.
If you think any of this is at all based on "cell reception",
you're not just a liar... ...you're an ignoramus. Siri, Apple Maps
(and not it isn't "Apple Maps in Siri"; that's just another
stunning misunderstanding of what is going on) and Google Maps both
use voice-to-text processing to convert what you say into text and
then used their designed processes to search their respective
databases for an answer.
Apple's location database doesn't have "Corsair Field, Danville
Indiana" in it. It has nothing to with Siri whatsoever. Try typing
it in on your iPad or iPhone and you'll get precisely the same
result.
Now, How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street". And
how about you admit that I showed you a video of my iPhone working
perfectly. (Although, I do admit that it gets confused by
"Carmel"—because of "Carmel-by-the-sea" being so much closer to
me—and so I say "Indianapolis")
But my bet is that you did try out my explicit instructions and
they DID work.
So that's why you deliberately set out to make Siri fail by saying
"go to".
One thing that I will say to you (much more for the benefit of
others) is that you can vary how long Siri will wait for to keep
speaking (how long you can pause while you collect your thoughts)
but you need to find that under Settings:Accessibility:Siri, not
under "Siri & Search" (which is a little dumb).
BTW, you can turn on the option to have Siri always show what it
has interpreted as what you spoke. When I did that for your "go
to/two/too one two nine nine nine pennsylvania street", it shows
very quickly what happened.
Also, BTW. Siri would happily give you "driving directions to manor
care carmel indiana" (replying "Getting driving directions to HCR
ManorCare..." And despite all the obscure little clubs Apple Maps
didn't have data for, you somehow just overlooked that option,
huh?
Also, also, BTW, your vaunted Google Maps fails utterly to find
YOUR business... ...even if I type it in so there can be no error.
"FXXXXXXN LLC"
Interesting you were happy to dox me, but didn't want to show that
in your video, did you?
Alan, Alan, Alan.
Siri is voice recognition. Any time you say Hey Siri your device
starts listening and Siri turns your voice commands to actions
programmed into the system.
OK, I just followed your very precise driving directions search
phrase. You are right it does work. BUT if I omit "Carmel Indiana" it
fails. If say "Navigate To" or "Go To" it fails. Thanks, you make my
point. Siri requires a very precise spoken phrase to find this
address.
Google does not. "Go To" and "Drive To" work just fine for
Google Maps. Google is much better at interpreting context and
performing the requested task.
What's the point of wanting "Hey Google" in place of "Hey Siri" on
iPhone? It actually works where Siri fails.
After all, I can choose
my default browser and email. Why not voice commands too? Apple
forces you to use Siri, a clearly inferior solution. You just proved
it. Thanks very much.
Finally, I only had one bar of cell reception in the garage. Not on
the video there were some lookup failures, so I left the garage for
better reception.
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:phrase to find this address. Google does not. "Go To" and "Drive To" work just fine for Google Maps. Google is much better at interpreting context and performing the requested task.
On 2023-05-19 14:33, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:37:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
On 2023-05-15 04:30, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 1:12:36 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save favorite
places in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination or
scroll to select a destination you saved in a collection.
(See Organize places in My Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to speak
a search phrase, or select the Keyboard button to use the
onscreen keyboard (if available). You can also select a
destination from a category of nearby services, such as
Parking or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios> >>>>>>>>
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
Yes. I am by my nature, very honest.It was utterly obvious, but you're wellcome.like: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop” “CallThat shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
Eliza Block” “Play more songs like this one” “Show me the >>>>>>> map” “What’s my next meeting?” “What’s the weather for >>>>>>> today?”
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral such as a
printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice recognition
facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use
speech-to-text.
Operator error, or...
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands to work
on CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on my
iPad or iPhone the street number also drops out. It worked
for you. Maybe voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up or shut
up, you lying Little Shit.
So, I now understand that you can use Apple Maps (and other
Apple apps) with Siri turned off by using the mic icon in the
search bar. Good to know. Thanks for pointing that out.
Sorry, but I would like to see a video of you bringing up Google
I have also discovered that you can use Google Maps with voice
search by speaking Hey Siri/Hey Google asking for directions to
an address. That brings up Google maps with spoken directions
with no manual interaction.
Maps with "Hey Google" on an iPhone.
That does not work within CarPlay though. Siri says you can't useI would expect so, yes. Frankly, I'd expect you could still use
Google search while driving. Good to know too.
So, let me get this all straight before I make any more videos.
You: " That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay." Me:
(Please at least spell CarPlay correctly!)
Me: You claim that I can turn off Siri and still use CarPlay by
opening Apple Maps in CarPlay and typing in a destination?
voice-to-text, but I don't know precisely how it works because I
haven't had a lot of opportunity to play with CarPlay as my BMW
doesn't have it.
I wrote nothing remotely like that.
You: Post a video with sound showing the 12999 address error
with Siri lookup and you will admit it's really an error?
How about you do the last part first, Little Shit?
Here is what I plan to do: 1. Use a second phone to record the
video in order to capture sound. 2. Turn off Siri. 3. Use the mic
in the Maps search bar to try and find the 12999 address by
dictation only. 4. Turn Siri back on. 5. Retraining Siri voice
recognition is required, and will be performed. 6. Use Siri to
try and find the 12999 address.
How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
...hmmm?
Well, I have had 4 years of CarPlay experience spread over 3 cars. My
Honda Insight, the current Accord and the wife's 2015 CRV with a
retrofit Pioneer entertainment system/wireless CarPlay have taught me
a lot. At least you were honest about lack of first hand knowledge.
Hint, CarPlay has no non-Siri option. As I show in the video belowSo that is a CHOICE Apple has made; most likely because they want you to
CarPlay will not even run unless Siri is active on your controlling
iPhone. Siri is the only CarPlay voice command.
not interact with a touchscreen unless there is no other way.
Hello Google verbalSo? How is that relevant?
search is not permitted on the CarPlay platform.
FYI you can get toYup. iOS. Map screen, tap text entry box, tap microphone icon in keyboard. >>> If not on CarPlay no touching is
Google Maps verbal search with 3 finger touches: Map
screen/Search/Microphone icon is the touch combination once Google
Maps is in full screen mode.
required for Google Maps directions:Stop mixing these two things up.
Hey Siri/Hey Google/Go to <sayBecause, you incredible simpleton:
destination address> takes you to Google Maps with the route up on
Google Maps and ready to be started from current location. Why not on
CarPlay? Apple wants you to use THEIR inferior voice response and
Maps. If you are already in the Maps app and make a Siri destination
request why does Siri need "navigate to..."? Makes no sense to me.
SIRI IS NOT JUST VOICE RECOGNITION.
You can use Siri while you happen to be looking at the Maps app...
...because Siri can do other things!
You're not using Google's equivalent of Siri when you tap the microphone
icon from within Google maps. That is equivalent to tapping the
microphone icon in Apple
So, just by retraining "Hey Siri", you should know that Siri does a lot
Sorry it took a few days, but here is the detailed Car Play video
with narration. In the car, in the garage and out, using Siri/Apple
Maps and Google/Google Maps. Siri fails on multiple levels. Car Play
will not even run unless Siri is enabled. Why? Google Maps needs 3
tries to find bakerMedia, but otherwise flawless.
It's a lot more detailed and honest video than your attempt by
someone with limited experience. Note that the upload finished at
about 1720 EDT today 19 May. It takes Google some time to do their
processing and make it playable from the cloud. Suggest you wait a
few hours before trying access. 1.28 GB 60 FPS 1080p HD.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SDYVyHb79Qf1mk97NDUOxAxbIQ9zmsoS/view?usp=share_link
more than just allow you to get directions.
And you said "Go to" when I EXPLICITLY told you what to say:
Why? Because you are a liar done to your core.How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
Note an issue that you need to consider:
Can Siri tell if you said:
"go to one two nine nine nine"
or
"go two one two nine nine nine"
...hmmm?
And show a different outcome for your home address...
...because you used a different method to invoke Siri.
You it the "Search" button within the Maps app, so Siri already knows
that whatever you say next is going to be a destination. The clue was
Siri saying "Directions to where?".
And "Corsair Field, Danville Indiana" is a VERY obscure CLUB. Not a
business at all.
"Indianapolis R/C flyers, [mumble]town" is actually called "Indianapolis
R/C MODELLERS", but that was just an error on your part, right, Little Shit? >>
And this isn't about Siri being perfect. It's about you (now)
deliberately misusing it to try to "prove" your points.
But you'd better use Google Maps in CarPlay while you're parked, him...
...anyone can see how long your attention would have to be on a
touchscreen rather than on the road.
As for not finding "baker media vancouver"...
...the only possible purpose for that is your continued attempt to
stalk/dox me.
And Siri's successes and failures have NOTHING to do with whether you
are inside or outside your garage.
If you think any of this is at all based on "cell reception", you're not
just a liar... ...you're an ignoramus. Siri, Apple Maps (and not it
isn't "Apple Maps in Siri"; that's just another stunning
misunderstanding of what is going on) and Google Maps both use
voice-to-text processing to convert what you say into text and then used
their designed processes to search their respective databases for an answer. >>
Apple's location database doesn't have "Corsair Field, Danville Indiana"
in it. It has nothing to with Siri whatsoever. Try typing it in on your
iPad or iPhone and you'll get precisely the same result.
Now,
How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
And how about you admit that I showed you a video of my iPhone working
perfectly. (Although, I do admit that it gets confused by
"Carmel"—because of "Carmel-by-the-sea" being so much closer to me—and >> so I say "Indianapolis")
But my bet is that you did try out my explicit instructions and they DID
work.
So that's why you deliberately set out to make Siri fail by saying "go to". >>
One thing that I will say to you (much more for the benefit of others)
is that you can vary how long Siri will wait for to keep speaking (how
long you can pause while you collect your thoughts) but you need to find
that under Settings:Accessibility:Siri, not under "Siri & Search" (which
is a little dumb).
BTW, you can turn on the option to have Siri always show what it has
interpreted as what you spoke. When I did that for your "go to/two/too
one two nine nine nine pennsylvania street", it shows very quickly what
happened.
Also, BTW. Siri would happily give you "driving directions to manor care
carmel indiana" (replying "Getting driving directions to HCR
ManorCare..." And despite all the obscure little clubs Apple Maps didn't
have data for, you somehow just overlooked that option, huh?
Also, also, BTW, your vaunted Google Maps fails utterly to find YOUR
business... ...even if I type it in so there can be no error. "FXXXXXXN LLC" >>
Interesting you were happy to dox me, but didn't want to show that in
your video, did you?
Alan, Alan, Alan.
Siri is voice recognition. Any time you say Hey Siri your device starts listening and Siri turns your voice commands to actions programmed into the system.
OK, I just followed your very precise driving directions search phrase. You are right it does work. BUT if I omit "Carmel Indiana" it fails. If say "Navigate To" or "Go To" it fails. Thanks, you make my point. Siri requires a very precise spoken
What's the point of wanting "Hey Google" in place of "Hey Siri" on iPhone? It actually works where Siri fails. After all, I can choose my default browser and email. Why not voice commands too? Apple forces you to use Siri, a clearly inferior solution.You just proved it. Thanks very much.
Finally, I only had one bar of cell reception in the garage. Not on the video there were some lookup failures, so I left the garage for better reception.
On 2023-05-21 04:48, Thomas E. wrote:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
On 2023-05-19 14:33, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:37:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-15 04:30, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 1:12:36 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan
wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save
favorite places in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination
or scroll to select a destination you saved in a
collection. (See Organize places in My Guides in Maps
on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to
speak a search phrase, or select the Keyboard button to
use the onscreen keyboard (if available). You can also
select a destination from a category of nearby
services, such as Parking or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios> >>>>>>>>
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on mylike: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop” “Call >>>>>>> Eliza Block” “Play more songs like this one” “Show me >>>>>>> the map” “What’s my next meeting?” “What’s the weather >>>>>>> for today?”That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral such
as a printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice
recognition facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use
speech-to-text.
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands to
work on CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/
So, just by retraining "Hey Siri", you should know that Siri does a lotYes. I am by my nature, very honest.It was utterly obvious, but you're wellcome.iPad or iPhone the street number also drops out. ItOperator error, or...
worked for you. Maybe voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up or
shut up, you lying Little Shit.
So, I now understand that you can use Apple Maps (and other
Apple apps) with Siri turned off by using the mic icon in
the search bar. Good to know. Thanks for pointing that out.
Sorry, but I would like to see a video of you bringing up
I have also discovered that you can use Google Maps with
voice search by speaking Hey Siri/Hey Google asking for
directions to an address. That brings up Google maps with
spoken directions with no manual interaction.
Google Maps with "Hey Google" on an iPhone.
That does not work within CarPlay though. Siri says you can'tI would expect so, yes. Frankly, I'd expect you could still
use Google search while driving. Good to know too.
So, let me get this all straight before I make any more
videos.
You: " That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay." Me:
(Please at least spell CarPlay correctly!)
Me: You claim that I can turn off Siri and still use CarPlay
by opening Apple Maps in CarPlay and typing in a
destination?
use voice-to-text, but I don't know precisely how it works
because I haven't had a lot of opportunity to play with CarPlay
as my BMW doesn't have it.
I wrote nothing remotely like that.
You: Post a video with sound showing the 12999 address error
with Siri lookup and you will admit it's really an error?
How about you do the last part first, Little Shit?
Here is what I plan to do: 1. Use a second phone to record
the video in order to capture sound. 2. Turn off Siri. 3. Use
the mic in the Maps search bar to try and find the 12999
address by dictation only. 4. Turn Siri back on. 5.
Retraining Siri voice recognition is required, and will be
performed. 6. Use Siri to try and find the 12999 address.
How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
...hmmm?
Well, I have had 4 years of CarPlay experience spread over 3
cars. My Honda Insight, the current Accord and the wife's 2015
CRV with a retrofit Pioneer entertainment system/wireless CarPlay
have taught me a lot. At least you were honest about lack of
first hand knowledge.
Hint, CarPlay has no non-Siri option. As I show in the videoSo that is a CHOICE Apple has made; most likely because they want
below CarPlay will not even run unless Siri is active on your
controlling iPhone. Siri is the only CarPlay voice command.
you to not interact with a touchscreen unless there is no other
way.
Hello Google verbal search is not permitted on the CarPlaySo? How is that relevant?
platform.
FYI you can get to Google Maps verbal search with 3 fingerYup. iOS. Map screen, tap text entry box, tap microphone icon in
touches: Map screen/Search/Microphone icon is the touch
combination once Google Maps is in full screen mode.
keyboard.
If not on CarPlay no touching is required for Google MapsStop mixing these two things up.
directions:
Hey Siri/Hey Google/Go to <say destination address> takes you toBecause, you incredible simpleton:
Google Maps with the route up on Google Maps and ready to be
started from current location. Why not on CarPlay? Apple wants
you to use THEIR inferior voice response and Maps. If you are
already in the Maps app and make a Siri destination request why
does Siri need "navigate to..."? Makes no sense to me.
SIRI IS NOT JUST VOICE RECOGNITION.
You can use Siri while you happen to be looking at the Maps app...
...because Siri can do other things!
You're not using Google's equivalent of Siri when you tap the
microphone icon from within Google maps. That is equivalent to
tapping the microphone icon in Apple
Sorry it took a few days, but here is the detailed Car Play
video with narration. In the car, in the garage and out, using
Siri/Apple Maps and Google/Google Maps. Siri fails on multiple
levels. Car Play will not even run unless Siri is enabled. Why?
Google Maps needs 3 tries to find bakerMedia, but otherwise
flawless.
It's a lot more detailed and honest video than your attempt by
someone with limited experience. Note that the upload finished
at about 1720 EDT today 19 May. It takes Google some time to do
their processing and make it playable from the cloud. Suggest you
wait a few hours before trying access. 1.28 GB 60 FPS 1080p HD.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SDYVyHb79Qf1mk97NDUOxAxbIQ9zmsoS/view?usp=share_link
more than just allow you to get directions.
And you said "Go to" when I EXPLICITLY told you what to say:
Why? Because you are a liar done to your core.How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
Note an issue that you need to consider:
Can Siri tell if you said:
"go to one two nine nine nine"
or
"go two one two nine nine nine"
...hmmm?
And show a different outcome for your home address...
...because you used a different method to invoke Siri.
You it the "Search" button within the Maps app, so Siri already
knows that whatever you say next is going to be a destination. The
clue was Siri saying "Directions to where?".
And "Corsair Field, Danville Indiana" is a VERY obscure CLUB. Not
a business at all.
"Indianapolis R/C flyers, [mumble]town" is actually called
"Indianapolis R/C MODELLERS", but that was just an error on your
part, right, Little Shit?
And this isn't about Siri being perfect. It's about you (now)
deliberately misusing it to try to "prove" your points.
But you'd better use Google Maps in CarPlay while you're parked,
him...
...anyone can see how long your attention would have to be on a
touchscreen rather than on the road.
As for not finding "baker media vancouver"...
...the only possible purpose for that is your continued attempt to
stalk/dox me.
And Siri's successes and failures have NOTHING to do with whether
you are inside or outside your garage.
If you think any of this is at all based on "cell reception",
you're not just a liar... ...you're an ignoramus. Siri, Apple Maps
(and not it isn't "Apple Maps in Siri"; that's just another
stunning misunderstanding of what is going on) and Google Maps both
use voice-to-text processing to convert what you say into text and
then used their designed processes to search their respective
databases for an answer.
Apple's location database doesn't have "Corsair Field, Danville
Indiana" in it. It has nothing to with Siri whatsoever. Try typing
it in on your iPad or iPhone and you'll get precisely the same
result.
Now, How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street". And
how about you admit that I showed you a video of my iPhone working
perfectly. (Although, I do admit that it gets confused by
"Carmel"—because of "Carmel-by-the-sea" being so much closer to
me—and so I say "Indianapolis")
But my bet is that you did try out my explicit instructions and
they DID work.
So that's why you deliberately set out to make Siri fail by saying
"go to".
One thing that I will say to you (much more for the benefit of
others) is that you can vary how long Siri will wait for to keep
speaking (how long you can pause while you collect your thoughts)
but you need to find that under Settings:Accessibility:Siri, not
under "Siri & Search" (which is a little dumb).
BTW, you can turn on the option to have Siri always show what it
has interpreted as what you spoke. When I did that for your "go
to/two/too one two nine nine nine pennsylvania street", it shows
very quickly what happened.
Also, BTW. Siri would happily give you "driving directions to manor
care carmel indiana" (replying "Getting driving directions to HCR
ManorCare..." And despite all the obscure little clubs Apple Maps
didn't have data for, you somehow just overlooked that option,
huh?
Also, also, BTW, your vaunted Google Maps fails utterly to find
YOUR business... ...even if I type it in so there can be no error.
"FXXXXXXN LLC"
Interesting you were happy to dox me, but didn't want to show that
in your video, did you?
Alan, Alan, Alan.Little Shit, Little Shit, Little Shit.
Siri is voice recognition. Any time you say Hey Siri your deviceNo. Siri is a digital assistant that USES voice recognition.
starts listening and Siri turns your voice commands to actions
programmed into the system.
If Siri was only voice recognition, it wouldn't do anything with the
words you spoke.
Your first error was trying to use Siri as if it only did directions, so
you thought simply speaking an address
OK, I just followed your very precise driving directions searchLet's see the video...you lying Little Shit.
phrase. You are right it does work. BUT if I omit "Carmel Indiana" it fails. If say "Navigate To" or "Go To" it fails. Thanks, you make my point. Siri requires a very precise spoken phrase to find this
address.
Google does not. "Go To" and "Drive To" work just fine forBecause Google MAPS has a tighter FOCUS. Google MAPS assumes that
Google Maps. Google is much better at interpreting context and
performing the requested task.
anything you SPEAK to when tapping the microphone icon in Google MAPS is
in the context of a LOCATION.
What's the point of wanting "Hey Google" in place of "Hey Siri" onYou talk about "Hey Google" doing something that "Hey Siri" doesn't (and expose that you don't actually know what it would do, because the
iPhone? It actually works where Siri fails.
activating phrase for Google's voice assistant is "Okay Google"), but no actual example has show you USING "Hey Google".
Funny that.
After all, I can chooseYou just proved you're a lying Little Shit.
my default browser and email. Why not voice commands too? Apple
forces you to use Siri, a clearly inferior solution. You just proved
it. Thanks very much.
Again.
Finally, I only had one bar of cell reception in the garage. Not onAh, so your video was edited.
the video there were some lookup failures, so I left the garage for
better reception.
Got it.
On 2023-05-21 04:48, Thomas E. wrote:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
On 2023-05-19 14:33, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:37:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-15 04:30, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 1:12:36 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan
wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save
favorite places in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination
or scroll to select a destination you saved in a
collection. (See Organize places in My Guides in Maps
on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to
speak a search phrase, or select the Keyboard button to
use the onscreen keyboard (if available). You can also
select a destination from a category of nearby
services, such as Parking or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios> >>>>>>>>
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on mylike: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop” “Call >>>>>>> Eliza Block” “Play more songs like this one” “Show me >>>>>>> the map” “What’s my next meeting?” “What’s the weather >>>>>>> for today?”That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral such
as a printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice
recognition facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use
speech-to-text.
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands to
work on CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/
So, just by retraining "Hey Siri", you should know that Siri does a lotYes. I am by my nature, very honest.It was utterly obvious, but you're wellcome.iPad or iPhone the street number also drops out. ItOperator error, or...
worked for you. Maybe voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up or
shut up, you lying Little Shit.
So, I now understand that you can use Apple Maps (and other
Apple apps) with Siri turned off by using the mic icon in
the search bar. Good to know. Thanks for pointing that out.
Sorry, but I would like to see a video of you bringing up
I have also discovered that you can use Google Maps with
voice search by speaking Hey Siri/Hey Google asking for
directions to an address. That brings up Google maps with
spoken directions with no manual interaction.
Google Maps with "Hey Google" on an iPhone.
That does not work within CarPlay though. Siri says you can'tI would expect so, yes. Frankly, I'd expect you could still
use Google search while driving. Good to know too.
So, let me get this all straight before I make any more
videos.
You: " That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay." Me:
(Please at least spell CarPlay correctly!)
Me: You claim that I can turn off Siri and still use CarPlay
by opening Apple Maps in CarPlay and typing in a
destination?
use voice-to-text, but I don't know precisely how it works
because I haven't had a lot of opportunity to play with CarPlay
as my BMW doesn't have it.
I wrote nothing remotely like that.
You: Post a video with sound showing the 12999 address error
with Siri lookup and you will admit it's really an error?
How about you do the last part first, Little Shit?
Here is what I plan to do: 1. Use a second phone to record
the video in order to capture sound. 2. Turn off Siri. 3. Use
the mic in the Maps search bar to try and find the 12999
address by dictation only. 4. Turn Siri back on. 5.
Retraining Siri voice recognition is required, and will be
performed. 6. Use Siri to try and find the 12999 address.
How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
...hmmm?
Well, I have had 4 years of CarPlay experience spread over 3
cars. My Honda Insight, the current Accord and the wife's 2015
CRV with a retrofit Pioneer entertainment system/wireless CarPlay
have taught me a lot. At least you were honest about lack of
first hand knowledge.
Hint, CarPlay has no non-Siri option. As I show in the videoSo that is a CHOICE Apple has made; most likely because they want
below CarPlay will not even run unless Siri is active on your
controlling iPhone. Siri is the only CarPlay voice command.
you to not interact with a touchscreen unless there is no other
way.
Hello Google verbal search is not permitted on the CarPlaySo? How is that relevant?
platform.
FYI you can get to Google Maps verbal search with 3 fingerYup. iOS. Map screen, tap text entry box, tap microphone icon in
touches: Map screen/Search/Microphone icon is the touch
combination once Google Maps is in full screen mode.
keyboard.
If not on CarPlay no touching is required for Google MapsStop mixing these two things up.
directions:
Hey Siri/Hey Google/Go to <say destination address> takes you toBecause, you incredible simpleton:
Google Maps with the route up on Google Maps and ready to be
started from current location. Why not on CarPlay? Apple wants
you to use THEIR inferior voice response and Maps. If you are
already in the Maps app and make a Siri destination request why
does Siri need "navigate to..."? Makes no sense to me.
SIRI IS NOT JUST VOICE RECOGNITION.
You can use Siri while you happen to be looking at the Maps app...
...because Siri can do other things!
You're not using Google's equivalent of Siri when you tap the
microphone icon from within Google maps. That is equivalent to
tapping the microphone icon in Apple
Sorry it took a few days, but here is the detailed Car Play
video with narration. In the car, in the garage and out, using
Siri/Apple Maps and Google/Google Maps. Siri fails on multiple
levels. Car Play will not even run unless Siri is enabled. Why?
Google Maps needs 3 tries to find bakerMedia, but otherwise
flawless.
It's a lot more detailed and honest video than your attempt by
someone with limited experience. Note that the upload finished
at about 1720 EDT today 19 May. It takes Google some time to do
their processing and make it playable from the cloud. Suggest you
wait a few hours before trying access. 1.28 GB 60 FPS 1080p HD.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SDYVyHb79Qf1mk97NDUOxAxbIQ9zmsoS/view?usp=share_link
more than just allow you to get directions.
And you said "Go to" when I EXPLICITLY told you what to say:
Why? Because you are a liar done to your core.How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
Note an issue that you need to consider:
Can Siri tell if you said:
"go to one two nine nine nine"
or
"go two one two nine nine nine"
...hmmm?
And show a different outcome for your home address...
...because you used a different method to invoke Siri.
You it the "Search" button within the Maps app, so Siri already
knows that whatever you say next is going to be a destination. The
clue was Siri saying "Directions to where?".
And "Corsair Field, Danville Indiana" is a VERY obscure CLUB. Not
a business at all.
"Indianapolis R/C flyers, [mumble]town" is actually called
"Indianapolis R/C MODELLERS", but that was just an error on your
part, right, Little Shit?
And this isn't about Siri being perfect. It's about you (now)
deliberately misusing it to try to "prove" your points.
But you'd better use Google Maps in CarPlay while you're parked,
him...
...anyone can see how long your attention would have to be on a
touchscreen rather than on the road.
As for not finding "baker media vancouver"...
...the only possible purpose for that is your continued attempt to
stalk/dox me.
And Siri's successes and failures have NOTHING to do with whether
you are inside or outside your garage.
If you think any of this is at all based on "cell reception",
you're not just a liar... ...you're an ignoramus. Siri, Apple Maps
(and not it isn't "Apple Maps in Siri"; that's just another
stunning misunderstanding of what is going on) and Google Maps both
use voice-to-text processing to convert what you say into text and
then used their designed processes to search their respective
databases for an answer.
Apple's location database doesn't have "Corsair Field, Danville
Indiana" in it. It has nothing to with Siri whatsoever. Try typing
it in on your iPad or iPhone and you'll get precisely the same
result.
Now, How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street". And
how about you admit that I showed you a video of my iPhone working
perfectly. (Although, I do admit that it gets confused by
"Carmel"—because of "Carmel-by-the-sea" being so much closer to
me—and so I say "Indianapolis")
But my bet is that you did try out my explicit instructions and
they DID work.
So that's why you deliberately set out to make Siri fail by saying
"go to".
One thing that I will say to you (much more for the benefit of
others) is that you can vary how long Siri will wait for to keep
speaking (how long you can pause while you collect your thoughts)
but you need to find that under Settings:Accessibility:Siri, not
under "Siri & Search" (which is a little dumb).
BTW, you can turn on the option to have Siri always show what it
has interpreted as what you spoke. When I did that for your "go
to/two/too one two nine nine nine pennsylvania street", it shows
very quickly what happened.
Also, BTW. Siri would happily give you "driving directions to manor
care carmel indiana" (replying "Getting driving directions to HCR
ManorCare..." And despite all the obscure little clubs Apple Maps
didn't have data for, you somehow just overlooked that option,
huh?
Also, also, BTW, your vaunted Google Maps fails utterly to find
YOUR business... ...even if I type it in so there can be no error.
"FXXXXXXN LLC"
Interesting you were happy to dox me, but didn't want to show that
in your video, did you?
Alan, Alan, Alan.Little Shit, Little Shit, Little Shit.
Siri is voice recognition. Any time you say Hey Siri your deviceNo. Siri is a digital assistant that USES voice recognition.
starts listening and Siri turns your voice commands to actions
programmed into the system.
If Siri was only voice recognition, it wouldn't do anything with the
words you spoke.
Your first error was trying to use Siri as if it only did directions, so
you thought simply speaking an address
OK, I just followed your very precise driving directions searchLet's see the video...you lying Little Shit.
phrase. You are right it does work. BUT if I omit "Carmel Indiana" it fails. If say "Navigate To" or "Go To" it fails. Thanks, you make my point. Siri requires a very precise spoken phrase to find this
address.
Google does not. "Go To" and "Drive To" work just fine forBecause Google MAPS has a tighter FOCUS. Google MAPS assumes that
Google Maps. Google is much better at interpreting context and
performing the requested task.
anything you SPEAK to when tapping the microphone icon in Google MAPS is
in the context of a LOCATION.
What's the point of wanting "Hey Google" in place of "Hey Siri" onYou talk about "Hey Google" doing something that "Hey Siri" doesn't (and expose that you don't actually know what it would do, because the
iPhone? It actually works where Siri fails.
activating phrase for Google's voice assistant is "Okay Google"), but no actual example has show you USING "Hey Google".
Funny that.
After all, I can chooseYou just proved you're a lying Little Shit.
my default browser and email. Why not voice commands too? Apple
forces you to use Siri, a clearly inferior solution. You just proved
it. Thanks very much.
Again.
Finally, I only had one bar of cell reception in the garage. Not onAh, so your video was edited.
the video there were some lookup failures, so I left the garage for
better reception.
Got it.
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 6:30:14 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-21 04:48, Thomas E. wrote:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
On 2023-05-19 14:33, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:37:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-15 04:30, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 1:12:36 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan
wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save
favorite places in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination
or scroll to select a destination you saved in a
collection. (See Organize places in My Guides in Maps
on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to
speak a search phrase, or select the Keyboard button to
use the onscreen keyboard (if available). You can also
select a destination from a category of nearby
services, such as Parking or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios> >>>>>>>>>>
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on mylike: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop” “Call >>>>>>>>> Eliza Block” “Play more songs like this one” “Show me >>>>>>>>> the map” “What’s my next meeting?” “What’s the weather >>>>>>>>> for today?”That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral such
as a printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice
recognition facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use
speech-to-text.
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands to
work on CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/
So, just by retraining "Hey Siri", you should know that Siri does a lotYes. I am by my nature, very honest.It was utterly obvious, but you're wellcome.iPad or iPhone the street number also drops out. ItOperator error, or...
worked for you. Maybe voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up or
shut up, you lying Little Shit.
So, I now understand that you can use Apple Maps (and other
Apple apps) with Siri turned off by using the mic icon in
the search bar. Good to know. Thanks for pointing that out.
Sorry, but I would like to see a video of you bringing up
I have also discovered that you can use Google Maps with
voice search by speaking Hey Siri/Hey Google asking for
directions to an address. That brings up Google maps with
spoken directions with no manual interaction.
Google Maps with "Hey Google" on an iPhone.
That does not work within CarPlay though. Siri says you can'tI would expect so, yes. Frankly, I'd expect you could still
use Google search while driving. Good to know too.
So, let me get this all straight before I make any more
videos.
You: " That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay." Me:
(Please at least spell CarPlay correctly!)
Me: You claim that I can turn off Siri and still use CarPlay
by opening Apple Maps in CarPlay and typing in a
destination?
use voice-to-text, but I don't know precisely how it works
because I haven't had a lot of opportunity to play with CarPlay
as my BMW doesn't have it.
I wrote nothing remotely like that.
You: Post a video with sound showing the 12999 address error
with Siri lookup and you will admit it's really an error?
How about you do the last part first, Little Shit?
Here is what I plan to do: 1. Use a second phone to record
the video in order to capture sound. 2. Turn off Siri. 3. Use
the mic in the Maps search bar to try and find the 12999
address by dictation only. 4. Turn Siri back on. 5.
Retraining Siri voice recognition is required, and will be
performed. 6. Use Siri to try and find the 12999 address.
How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
...hmmm?
Well, I have had 4 years of CarPlay experience spread over 3
cars. My Honda Insight, the current Accord and the wife's 2015
CRV with a retrofit Pioneer entertainment system/wireless CarPlay
have taught me a lot. At least you were honest about lack of
first hand knowledge.
Hint, CarPlay has no non-Siri option. As I show in the videoSo that is a CHOICE Apple has made; most likely because they want
below CarPlay will not even run unless Siri is active on your
controlling iPhone. Siri is the only CarPlay voice command.
you to not interact with a touchscreen unless there is no other
way.
Hello Google verbal search is not permitted on the CarPlaySo? How is that relevant?
platform.
FYI you can get to Google Maps verbal search with 3 fingerYup. iOS. Map screen, tap text entry box, tap microphone icon in
touches: Map screen/Search/Microphone icon is the touch
combination once Google Maps is in full screen mode.
keyboard.
If not on CarPlay no touching is required for Google MapsStop mixing these two things up.
directions:
Hey Siri/Hey Google/Go to <say destination address> takes you toBecause, you incredible simpleton:
Google Maps with the route up on Google Maps and ready to be
started from current location. Why not on CarPlay? Apple wants
you to use THEIR inferior voice response and Maps. If you are
already in the Maps app and make a Siri destination request why
does Siri need "navigate to..."? Makes no sense to me.
SIRI IS NOT JUST VOICE RECOGNITION.
You can use Siri while you happen to be looking at the Maps app...
...because Siri can do other things!
You're not using Google's equivalent of Siri when you tap the
microphone icon from within Google maps. That is equivalent to
tapping the microphone icon in Apple
Sorry it took a few days, but here is the detailed Car Play
video with narration. In the car, in the garage and out, using
Siri/Apple Maps and Google/Google Maps. Siri fails on multiple
levels. Car Play will not even run unless Siri is enabled. Why?
Google Maps needs 3 tries to find bakerMedia, but otherwise
flawless.
It's a lot more detailed and honest video than your attempt by
someone with limited experience. Note that the upload finished
at about 1720 EDT today 19 May. It takes Google some time to do
their processing and make it playable from the cloud. Suggest you
wait a few hours before trying access. 1.28 GB 60 FPS 1080p HD.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SDYVyHb79Qf1mk97NDUOxAxbIQ9zmsoS/view?usp=share_link
Little Shit, Little Shit, Little Shit.more than just allow you to get directions.
And you said "Go to" when I EXPLICITLY told you what to say:
Why? Because you are a liar done to your core.How about you simply make a video including your voice saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
Note an issue that you need to consider:
Can Siri tell if you said:
"go to one two nine nine nine"
or
"go two one two nine nine nine"
...hmmm?
And show a different outcome for your home address...
...because you used a different method to invoke Siri.
You it the "Search" button within the Maps app, so Siri already
knows that whatever you say next is going to be a destination. The
clue was Siri saying "Directions to where?".
And "Corsair Field, Danville Indiana" is a VERY obscure CLUB. Not
a business at all.
"Indianapolis R/C flyers, [mumble]town" is actually called
"Indianapolis R/C MODELLERS", but that was just an error on your
part, right, Little Shit?
And this isn't about Siri being perfect. It's about you (now)
deliberately misusing it to try to "prove" your points.
But you'd better use Google Maps in CarPlay while you're parked,
him...
...anyone can see how long your attention would have to be on a
touchscreen rather than on the road.
As for not finding "baker media vancouver"...
...the only possible purpose for that is your continued attempt to
stalk/dox me.
And Siri's successes and failures have NOTHING to do with whether
you are inside or outside your garage.
If you think any of this is at all based on "cell reception",
you're not just a liar... ...you're an ignoramus. Siri, Apple Maps
(and not it isn't "Apple Maps in Siri"; that's just another
stunning misunderstanding of what is going on) and Google Maps both
use voice-to-text processing to convert what you say into text and
then used their designed processes to search their respective
databases for an answer.
Apple's location database doesn't have "Corsair Field, Danville
Indiana" in it. It has nothing to with Siri whatsoever. Try typing
it in on your iPad or iPhone and you'll get precisely the same
result.
Now, How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street". And
how about you admit that I showed you a video of my iPhone working
perfectly. (Although, I do admit that it gets confused by
"Carmel"—because of "Carmel-by-the-sea" being so much closer to
me—and so I say "Indianapolis")
But my bet is that you did try out my explicit instructions and
they DID work.
So that's why you deliberately set out to make Siri fail by saying
"go to".
One thing that I will say to you (much more for the benefit of
others) is that you can vary how long Siri will wait for to keep
speaking (how long you can pause while you collect your thoughts)
but you need to find that under Settings:Accessibility:Siri, not
under "Siri & Search" (which is a little dumb).
BTW, you can turn on the option to have Siri always show what it
has interpreted as what you spoke. When I did that for your "go
to/two/too one two nine nine nine pennsylvania street", it shows
very quickly what happened.
Also, BTW. Siri would happily give you "driving directions to manor
care carmel indiana" (replying "Getting driving directions to HCR
ManorCare..." And despite all the obscure little clubs Apple Maps
didn't have data for, you somehow just overlooked that option,
huh?
Also, also, BTW, your vaunted Google Maps fails utterly to find
YOUR business... ...even if I type it in so there can be no error.
"FXXXXXXN LLC"
Interesting you were happy to dox me, but didn't want to show that
in your video, did you?
Alan, Alan, Alan.
No. Siri is a digital assistant that USES voice recognition.
Siri is voice recognition. Any time you say Hey Siri your device
starts listening and Siri turns your voice commands to actions
programmed into the system.
If Siri was only voice recognition, it wouldn't do anything with the
words you spoke.
Your first error was trying to use Siri as if it only did directions, so
you thought simply speaking an address
Let's see the video...you lying Little Shit.
OK, I just followed your very precise driving directions search
phrase. You are right it does work. BUT if I omit "Carmel Indiana" it
fails. If say "Navigate To" or "Go To" it fails. Thanks, you make my
point. Siri requires a very precise spoken phrase to find this
address.
Google does not. "Go To" and "Drive To" work just fine forBecause Google MAPS has a tighter FOCUS. Google MAPS assumes that
Google Maps. Google is much better at interpreting context and
performing the requested task.
anything you SPEAK to when tapping the microphone icon in Google MAPS is
in the context of a LOCATION.
You talk about "Hey Google" doing something that "Hey Siri" doesn't (and
What's the point of wanting "Hey Google" in place of "Hey Siri" on
iPhone? It actually works where Siri fails.
expose that you don't actually know what it would do, because the
activating phrase for Google's voice assistant is "Okay Google"), but no
actual example has show you USING "Hey Google".
Funny that.
After all, I can chooseYou just proved you're a lying Little Shit.
my default browser and email. Why not voice commands too? Apple
forces you to use Siri, a clearly inferior solution. You just proved
it. Thanks very much.
Again.
Ah, so your video was edited.
Finally, I only had one bar of cell reception in the garage. Not on
the video there were some lookup failures, so I left the garage for
better reception.
Got it.
No, the video was not edited. When I started the video session I saw the issue, then started over.
As for "Siri", when I use that word I refer to the system, including underlying components.
You lied in the subject line "CarPlay isn't Siri" That implies you can use CarPlay without Siri. You can't.
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 6:30:14 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
On 2023-05-21 04:48, Thomas E. wrote:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-19 14:33, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:37:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-15 04:30, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 1:12:36 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan
wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the
following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save
favorite places in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent
destination or scroll to select a destination you
saved in a collection. (See Organize places in My
Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button
to speak a search phrase, or select the Keyboard
button to use the onscreen keyboard (if available).
You can also select a destination from a category
of nearby services, such as Parking or
Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios> >>>>>>>>>>
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on mylike: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop”That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
“Call Eliza Block” “Play more songs like this one”
“Show me the map” “What’s my next meeting?” “What’s >>>>>>>>> the weather for today?”
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral
such as a printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice
recognition facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use
speech-to-text.
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands
to work on CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/
So, just by retraining "Hey Siri", you should know that Siri does a lotYes. I am by my nature, very honest.It was utterly obvious, but you're wellcome.iPad or iPhone the street number also drops out. ItOperator error, or...
worked for you. Maybe voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up
or shut up, you lying Little Shit.
So, I now understand that you can use Apple Maps (and
other Apple apps) with Siri turned off by using the mic
icon in the search bar. Good to know. Thanks for pointing
that out.
Sorry, but I would like to see a video of you bringing up
I have also discovered that you can use Google Maps with
voice search by speaking Hey Siri/Hey Google asking for
directions to an address. That brings up Google maps
with spoken directions with no manual interaction.
Google Maps with "Hey Google" on an iPhone.
That does not work within CarPlay though. Siri says youI would expect so, yes. Frankly, I'd expect you could
can't use Google search while driving. Good to know too.
So, let me get this all straight before I make any more
videos.
You: " That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay."
Me: (Please at least spell CarPlay correctly!)
Me: You claim that I can turn off Siri and still use
CarPlay by opening Apple Maps in CarPlay and typing in a
destination?
still use voice-to-text, but I don't know precisely how it
works because I haven't had a lot of opportunity to play
with CarPlay as my BMW doesn't have it.
I wrote nothing remotely like that.
You: Post a video with sound showing the 12999 address
error with Siri lookup and you will admit it's really an
error?
How about you do the last part first, Little Shit?
Here is what I plan to do: 1. Use a second phone to
record the video in order to capture sound. 2. Turn off
Siri. 3. Use the mic in the Maps search bar to try and
find the 12999 address by dictation only. 4. Turn Siri
back on. 5. Retraining Siri voice recognition is
required, and will be performed. 6. Use Siri to try and
find the 12999 address.
How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania
Street".
...hmmm?
Well, I have had 4 years of CarPlay experience spread over 3
cars. My Honda Insight, the current Accord and the wife's
2015 CRV with a retrofit Pioneer entertainment
system/wireless CarPlay have taught me a lot. At least you
were honest about lack of first hand knowledge.
Hint, CarPlay has no non-Siri option. As I show in the videoSo that is a CHOICE Apple has made; most likely because they
below CarPlay will not even run unless Siri is active on
your controlling iPhone. Siri is the only CarPlay voice
command.
want you to not interact with a touchscreen unless there is no
other way.
Hello Google verbal search is not permitted on the CarPlaySo? How is that relevant?
platform.
FYI you can get to Google Maps verbal search with 3 fingerYup. iOS. Map screen, tap text entry box, tap microphone icon
touches: Map screen/Search/Microphone icon is the touch
combination once Google Maps is in full screen mode.
in keyboard.
If not on CarPlay no touching is required for Google MapsStop mixing these two things up.
directions:
Hey Siri/Hey Google/Go to <say destination address> takes youBecause, you incredible simpleton:
to Google Maps with the route up on Google Maps and ready to
be started from current location. Why not on CarPlay? Apple
wants you to use THEIR inferior voice response and Maps. If
you are already in the Maps app and make a Siri destination
request why does Siri need "navigate to..."? Makes no sense
to me.
SIRI IS NOT JUST VOICE RECOGNITION.
You can use Siri while you happen to be looking at the Maps
app...
...because Siri can do other things!
You're not using Google's equivalent of Siri when you tap the
microphone icon from within Google maps. That is equivalent to
tapping the microphone icon in Apple
Sorry it took a few days, but here is the detailed Car Play
video with narration. In the car, in the garage and out,
using Siri/Apple Maps and Google/Google Maps. Siri fails on
multiple levels. Car Play will not even run unless Siri is
enabled. Why? Google Maps needs 3 tries to find bakerMedia,
but otherwise flawless.
It's a lot more detailed and honest video than your attempt
by someone with limited experience. Note that the upload
finished at about 1720 EDT today 19 May. It takes Google some
time to do their processing and make it playable from the
cloud. Suggest you wait a few hours before trying access.
1.28 GB 60 FPS 1080p HD.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SDYVyHb79Qf1mk97NDUOxAxbIQ9zmsoS/view?usp=share_link
Little Shit, Little Shit, Little Shit.more than just allow you to get directions.
And you said "Go to" when I EXPLICITLY told you what to say:
Why? Because you are a liar done to your core.How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania
Street".
Note an issue that you need to consider:
Can Siri tell if you said:
"go to one two nine nine nine"
or
"go two one two nine nine nine"
...hmmm?
And show a different outcome for your home address...
...because you used a different method to invoke Siri.
You it the "Search" button within the Maps app, so Siri
already knows that whatever you say next is going to be a
destination. The clue was Siri saying "Directions to where?".
And "Corsair Field, Danville Indiana" is a VERY obscure CLUB.
Not a business at all.
"Indianapolis R/C flyers, [mumble]town" is actually called
"Indianapolis R/C MODELLERS", but that was just an error on
your part, right, Little Shit?
And this isn't about Siri being perfect. It's about you (now)
deliberately misusing it to try to "prove" your points.
But you'd better use Google Maps in CarPlay while you're
parked, him...
...anyone can see how long your attention would have to be on
a touchscreen rather than on the road.
As for not finding "baker media vancouver"...
...the only possible purpose for that is your continued attempt
to stalk/dox me.
And Siri's successes and failures have NOTHING to do with
whether you are inside or outside your garage.
If you think any of this is at all based on "cell reception",
you're not just a liar... ...you're an ignoramus. Siri, Apple
Maps (and not it isn't "Apple Maps in Siri"; that's just
another stunning misunderstanding of what is going on) and
Google Maps both use voice-to-text processing to convert what
you say into text and then used their designed processes to
search their respective databases for an answer.
Apple's location database doesn't have "Corsair Field,
Danville Indiana" in it. It has nothing to with Siri
whatsoever. Try typing it in on your iPad or iPhone and you'll
get precisely the same result.
Now, How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
And how about you admit that I showed you a video of my iPhone
working perfectly. (Although, I do admit that it gets confused
by "Carmel"—because of "Carmel-by-the-sea" being so much closer
to me—and so I say "Indianapolis")
But my bet is that you did try out my explicit instructions
and they DID work.
So that's why you deliberately set out to make Siri fail by
saying "go to".
One thing that I will say to you (much more for the benefit of
others) is that you can vary how long Siri will wait for to
keep speaking (how long you can pause while you collect your
thoughts) but you need to find that under
Settings:Accessibility:Siri, not under "Siri & Search" (which
is a little dumb).
BTW, you can turn on the option to have Siri always show what
it has interpreted as what you spoke. When I did that for your
"go to/two/too one two nine nine nine pennsylvania street", it
shows very quickly what happened.
Also, BTW. Siri would happily give you "driving directions to
manor care carmel indiana" (replying "Getting driving
directions to HCR ManorCare..." And despite all the obscure
little clubs Apple Maps didn't have data for, you somehow just
overlooked that option, huh?
Also, also, BTW, your vaunted Google Maps fails utterly to
find YOUR business... ...even if I type it in so there can be
no error. "FXXXXXXN LLC"
Interesting you were happy to dox me, but didn't want to show
that in your video, did you?
Alan, Alan, Alan.
No. Siri is a digital assistant that USES voice recognition.
Siri is voice recognition. Any time you say Hey Siri your device
starts listening and Siri turns your voice commands to actions
programmed into the system.
If Siri was only voice recognition, it wouldn't do anything with
the words you spoke.
Your first error was trying to use Siri as if it only did
directions, so you thought simply speaking an address
Let's see the video...you lying Little Shit.
OK, I just followed your very precise driving directions search
phrase. You are right it does work. BUT if I omit "Carmel
Indiana" it fails. If say "Navigate To" or "Go To" it fails.
Thanks, you make my point. Siri requires a very precise spoken
phrase to find this address.
Google does not. "Go To" and "Drive To" work just fine for GoogleBecause Google MAPS has a tighter FOCUS. Google MAPS assumes that
Maps. Google is much better at interpreting context and
performing the requested task.
anything you SPEAK to when tapping the microphone icon in Google
MAPS is in the context of a LOCATION.
You talk about "Hey Google" doing something that "Hey Siri" doesn't
What's the point of wanting "Hey Google" in place of "Hey Siri"
on iPhone? It actually works where Siri fails.
(and expose that you don't actually know what it would do, because
the activating phrase for Google's voice assistant is "Okay
Google"), but no actual example has show you USING "Hey Google".
Funny that.
After all, I can choose my default browser and email. Why notYou just proved you're a lying Little Shit.
voice commands too? Apple forces you to use Siri, a clearly
inferior solution. You just proved it. Thanks very much.
Again.
Ah, so your video was edited.
Finally, I only had one bar of cell reception in the garage. Not
on the video there were some lookup failures, so I left the
garage for better reception.
Got it.
You lie again when you said:
"You talk about "Hey Google" doing something that "Hey Siri" doesn't
(and expose that you don't actually know what it would do, because
the activating phrase for Google's voice assistant is "Okay Google"),
but no actual example has show you USING "Hey Google"."
We have 7 Google Assistant speaker devices in our home. How many do
you have?
"OK Google" "Hi Google" and "Hey Google" all activate a device with
Google Assistant voice response.
The default is "Hey Google": https://support.google.com/assistant/answer/9249169?hl=en
You don't have CarPlay in your car and you don't have much experience
with Google Assistant. You lie when you imply to know these
technologies based on extensive personal use.
Over on rec.sport.golf your posts are getting zero response. They
have you figured out. I'm about the last person on newsgroups you can
get a good argument out of. Will you miss me if I go away too?
Since I'm already a such a liar already maybe I'll just have to
reveal my secret about you after all then go away for good. :-)
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save favorite places in
Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination or scroll to
select a destination you saved in a collection. (See Organize places in
My Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to speak a search
phrase, or select the Keyboard button to use the onscreen keyboard (if available). You can also select a destination from a category of nearby services, such as Parking or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios>
Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting "Search" using Siri.
On 2023-05-25 05:15, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 6:30:14 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
On 2023-05-21 04:48, Thomas E. wrote:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-19 14:33, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:37:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-15 04:30, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 1:12:36 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan
wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the
following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save
favorite places in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent
destination or scroll to select a destination you
saved in a collection. (See Organize places in My
Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button
to speak a search phrase, or select the Keyboard
button to use the onscreen keyboard (if available).
You can also select a destination from a category
of nearby services, such as Parking or
Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios> >>>>>>>>>>
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on mylike: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop”That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
“Call Eliza Block” “Play more songs like this one” >>>>>>>>> “Show me the map” “What’s my next meeting?” “What’s >>>>>>>>> the weather for today?”
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral
such as a printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice
recognition facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use
speech-to-text.
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands
to work on CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/ >>>>>>>>>
So, just by retraining "Hey Siri", you should know that Siri does a lotYes. I am by my nature, very honest.It was utterly obvious, but you're wellcome.iPad or iPhone the street number also drops out. ItOperator error, or...
worked for you. Maybe voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up
or shut up, you lying Little Shit.
So, I now understand that you can use Apple Maps (and
other Apple apps) with Siri turned off by using the mic
icon in the search bar. Good to know. Thanks for pointing
that out.
Sorry, but I would like to see a video of you bringing up
I have also discovered that you can use Google Maps with
voice search by speaking Hey Siri/Hey Google asking for
directions to an address. That brings up Google maps
with spoken directions with no manual interaction.
Google Maps with "Hey Google" on an iPhone.
That does not work within CarPlay though. Siri says youI would expect so, yes. Frankly, I'd expect you could
can't use Google search while driving. Good to know too.
So, let me get this all straight before I make any more
videos.
You: " That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay."
Me: (Please at least spell CarPlay correctly!)
Me: You claim that I can turn off Siri and still use
CarPlay by opening Apple Maps in CarPlay and typing in a
destination?
still use voice-to-text, but I don't know precisely how it
works because I haven't had a lot of opportunity to play
with CarPlay as my BMW doesn't have it.
I wrote nothing remotely like that.
You: Post a video with sound showing the 12999 address
error with Siri lookup and you will admit it's really an
error?
How about you do the last part first, Little Shit?
Here is what I plan to do: 1. Use a second phone to
record the video in order to capture sound. 2. Turn off
Siri. 3. Use the mic in the Maps search bar to try and
find the 12999 address by dictation only. 4. Turn Siri
back on. 5. Retraining Siri voice recognition is
required, and will be performed. 6. Use Siri to try and
find the 12999 address.
How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania
Street".
...hmmm?
Well, I have had 4 years of CarPlay experience spread over 3
cars. My Honda Insight, the current Accord and the wife's
2015 CRV with a retrofit Pioneer entertainment
system/wireless CarPlay have taught me a lot. At least you
were honest about lack of first hand knowledge.
Hint, CarPlay has no non-Siri option. As I show in the videoSo that is a CHOICE Apple has made; most likely because they
below CarPlay will not even run unless Siri is active on
your controlling iPhone. Siri is the only CarPlay voice
command.
want you to not interact with a touchscreen unless there is no
other way.
Hello Google verbal search is not permitted on the CarPlaySo? How is that relevant?
platform.
FYI you can get to Google Maps verbal search with 3 fingerYup. iOS. Map screen, tap text entry box, tap microphone icon
touches: Map screen/Search/Microphone icon is the touch
combination once Google Maps is in full screen mode.
in keyboard.
If not on CarPlay no touching is required for Google MapsStop mixing these two things up.
directions:
Hey Siri/Hey Google/Go to <say destination address> takes youBecause, you incredible simpleton:
to Google Maps with the route up on Google Maps and ready to
be started from current location. Why not on CarPlay? Apple
wants you to use THEIR inferior voice response and Maps. If
you are already in the Maps app and make a Siri destination
request why does Siri need "navigate to..."? Makes no sense
to me.
SIRI IS NOT JUST VOICE RECOGNITION.
You can use Siri while you happen to be looking at the Maps
app...
...because Siri can do other things!
You're not using Google's equivalent of Siri when you tap the
microphone icon from within Google maps. That is equivalent to
tapping the microphone icon in Apple
Sorry it took a few days, but here is the detailed Car Play
video with narration. In the car, in the garage and out,
using Siri/Apple Maps and Google/Google Maps. Siri fails on
multiple levels. Car Play will not even run unless Siri is
enabled. Why? Google Maps needs 3 tries to find bakerMedia,
but otherwise flawless.
It's a lot more detailed and honest video than your attempt
by someone with limited experience. Note that the upload
finished at about 1720 EDT today 19 May. It takes Google some
time to do their processing and make it playable from the
cloud. Suggest you wait a few hours before trying access.
1.28 GB 60 FPS 1080p HD.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SDYVyHb79Qf1mk97NDUOxAxbIQ9zmsoS/view?usp=share_link
Little Shit, Little Shit, Little Shit.more than just allow you to get directions.
And you said "Go to" when I EXPLICITLY told you what to say:
Why? Because you are a liar done to your core.How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania
Street".
Note an issue that you need to consider:
Can Siri tell if you said:
"go to one two nine nine nine"
or
"go two one two nine nine nine"
...hmmm?
And show a different outcome for your home address...
...because you used a different method to invoke Siri.
You it the "Search" button within the Maps app, so Siri
already knows that whatever you say next is going to be a
destination. The clue was Siri saying "Directions to where?".
And "Corsair Field, Danville Indiana" is a VERY obscure CLUB.
Not a business at all.
"Indianapolis R/C flyers, [mumble]town" is actually called
"Indianapolis R/C MODELLERS", but that was just an error on
your part, right, Little Shit?
And this isn't about Siri being perfect. It's about you (now)
deliberately misusing it to try to "prove" your points.
But you'd better use Google Maps in CarPlay while you're
parked, him...
...anyone can see how long your attention would have to be on
a touchscreen rather than on the road.
As for not finding "baker media vancouver"...
...the only possible purpose for that is your continued attempt
to stalk/dox me.
And Siri's successes and failures have NOTHING to do with
whether you are inside or outside your garage.
If you think any of this is at all based on "cell reception",
you're not just a liar... ...you're an ignoramus. Siri, Apple
Maps (and not it isn't "Apple Maps in Siri"; that's just
another stunning misunderstanding of what is going on) and
Google Maps both use voice-to-text processing to convert what
you say into text and then used their designed processes to
search their respective databases for an answer.
Apple's location database doesn't have "Corsair Field,
Danville Indiana" in it. It has nothing to with Siri
whatsoever. Try typing it in on your iPad or iPhone and you'll
get precisely the same result.
Now, How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
And how about you admit that I showed you a video of my iPhone
working perfectly. (Although, I do admit that it gets confused
by "Carmel"—because of "Carmel-by-the-sea" being so much closer
to me—and so I say "Indianapolis")
But my bet is that you did try out my explicit instructions
and they DID work.
So that's why you deliberately set out to make Siri fail by
saying "go to".
One thing that I will say to you (much more for the benefit of
others) is that you can vary how long Siri will wait for to
keep speaking (how long you can pause while you collect your
thoughts) but you need to find that under
Settings:Accessibility:Siri, not under "Siri & Search" (which
is a little dumb).
BTW, you can turn on the option to have Siri always show what
it has interpreted as what you spoke. When I did that for your
"go to/two/too one two nine nine nine pennsylvania street", it
shows very quickly what happened.
Also, BTW. Siri would happily give you "driving directions to
manor care carmel indiana" (replying "Getting driving
directions to HCR ManorCare..." And despite all the obscure
little clubs Apple Maps didn't have data for, you somehow just
overlooked that option, huh?
Also, also, BTW, your vaunted Google Maps fails utterly to
find YOUR business... ...even if I type it in so there can be
no error. "FXXXXXXN LLC"
Interesting you were happy to dox me, but didn't want to show
that in your video, did you?
Alan, Alan, Alan.
No. Siri is a digital assistant that USES voice recognition.
Siri is voice recognition. Any time you say Hey Siri your device
starts listening and Siri turns your voice commands to actions
programmed into the system.
If Siri was only voice recognition, it wouldn't do anything with
the words you spoke.
Your first error was trying to use Siri as if it only did
directions, so you thought simply speaking an address
Let's see the video...you lying Little Shit.
OK, I just followed your very precise driving directions search
phrase. You are right it does work. BUT if I omit "Carmel
Indiana" it fails. If say "Navigate To" or "Go To" it fails.
Thanks, you make my point. Siri requires a very precise spoken
phrase to find this address.
Google does not. "Go To" and "Drive To" work just fine for GoogleBecause Google MAPS has a tighter FOCUS. Google MAPS assumes that
Maps. Google is much better at interpreting context and
performing the requested task.
anything you SPEAK to when tapping the microphone icon in Google
MAPS is in the context of a LOCATION.
You talk about "Hey Google" doing something that "Hey Siri" doesn't
What's the point of wanting "Hey Google" in place of "Hey Siri"
on iPhone? It actually works where Siri fails.
(and expose that you don't actually know what it would do, because
the activating phrase for Google's voice assistant is "Okay
Google"), but no actual example has show you USING "Hey Google".
Funny that.
After all, I can choose my default browser and email. Why notYou just proved you're a lying Little Shit.
voice commands too? Apple forces you to use Siri, a clearly
inferior solution. You just proved it. Thanks very much.
Again.
Ah, so your video was edited.
Finally, I only had one bar of cell reception in the garage. Not
on the video there were some lookup failures, so I left the
garage for better reception.
Got it.
You lie again when you said:
"You talk about "Hey Google" doing something that "Hey Siri" doesn't
(and expose that you don't actually know what it would do, because
the activating phrase for Google's voice assistant is "Okay Google"),
but no actual example has show you USING "Hey Google"."
We have 7 Google Assistant speaker devices in our home. How many do
you have?
"OK Google" "Hi Google" and "Hey Google" all activate a device with
Google Assistant voice response.
The default is "Hey Google": https://support.google.com/assistant/answer/9249169?hl=en
You don't have CarPlay in your car and you don't have much experienceEvery Google device I've interacted with uses "Okay Google"
with Google Assistant. You lie when you imply to know these
technologies based on extensive personal use.
But being wrong about that isn't a lie.
Lying is pretending you can't understand that tapping a microphone icon within a mapping app and speaking an address is different from saying
just an address to a multi-purpose digital assistant.
Over on rec.sport.golf your posts are getting zero response. They
have you figured out. I'm about the last person on newsgroups you can
get a good argument out of. Will you miss me if I go away too?
Since I'm already a such a liar already maybe I'll just have toThreats, you Little Shit?
reveal my secret about you after all then go away for good. :-)
Yeah... ...that's about your style.
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save favorite places in
Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent destination or scroll to
select a destination you saved in a collection. (See Organize places in
My Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button to speak a search
phrase, or select the Keyboard button to use the onscreen keyboard (if
available). You can also select a destination from a category of nearby
services, such as Parking or Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios>
Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting "Search"
using Siri.
When you press the mic button Siri pops up.
On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 12:36:26 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-25 05:15, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 6:30:14 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Notice they never once call speaking an address after selecting
On 2023-05-21 04:48, Thomas E. wrote:
On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-19 14:33, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:37:05 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-15 04:30, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 1:12:36 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2023-05-14 09:36, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:23:43 PM UTC-4, Alan
wrote:
...and Siri isn't simply using voice recognition:
'With Maps open in CarPlay, do one of the
following:
Select a place you saved as a favorite. (See Save
favorite places in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Destinations, then select a recent
destination or scroll to select a destination you
saved in a collection. (See Organize places in My
Guides in Maps on iPhone.)
Select Search, then select the Microphone button
to speak a search phrase, or select the Keyboard
button to use the onscreen keyboard (if available).
You can also select a destination from a category
of nearby services, such as Parking or
Restaurants.'
<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph215b053f6/ios> >>>>>>>>>>>>
Use Siri to ask a question or to do something. Siri: Say something >>>>>>>>>>> like: “Get directions to the nearest coffee shop”"Search" using Siri.
CarPlay does use Siri.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-siri-iph0aa8c80e6/ios#:~:text=CarPlay%20uses%20Siri%20voice%20control,in%20controls%20to%20control%20CarPlay.)
In any event when I try to get that location via Siri on my“Call Eliza Block” “Play more songs like this one” >>>>>>>>>>> “Show me the map” “What’s my next meeting?” “What’s >>>>>>>>>>> the weather for today?”That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay.
Your statement is analogous to claiming a peripheral
such as a printer "uses" the operating system.
You have it backwards.
Siri isn't the voice recognition facility of iOS.
Siri is a digital assistant that USES the voice
recognition facility of iOS.
You can turn off Siri completely, and still use
speech-to-text.
In fact Siri has to be enabled for any voice commands
to work on CarPlay devices.
https://stereoupgrade.com/how-to-use-carplay-without-siri/ >>>>>>>>>>>
So, just by retraining "Hey Siri", you should know that Siri does a lot >>>>>> more than just allow you to get directions.Yes. I am by my nature, very honest.It was utterly obvious, but you're wellcome.iPad or iPhone the street number also drops out. ItOperator error, or...
worked for you. Maybe voice recognition issue?
...far more likely...
...deliberate misuse by you.
Post a video including what YOU said.
You've demanded video after video from me, so put up
or shut up, you lying Little Shit.
So, I now understand that you can use Apple Maps (and
other Apple apps) with Siri turned off by using the mic
icon in the search bar. Good to know. Thanks for pointing
that out.
Sorry, but I would like to see a video of you bringing up
I have also discovered that you can use Google Maps with
voice search by speaking Hey Siri/Hey Google asking for
directions to an address. That brings up Google maps
with spoken directions with no manual interaction.
Google Maps with "Hey Google" on an iPhone.
That does not work within CarPlay though. Siri says youI would expect so, yes. Frankly, I'd expect you could
can't use Google search while driving. Good to know too.
So, let me get this all straight before I make any more
videos.
You: " That shows you can use SIRI to control Carplay."
Me: (Please at least spell CarPlay correctly!)
Me: You claim that I can turn off Siri and still use
CarPlay by opening Apple Maps in CarPlay and typing in a
destination?
still use voice-to-text, but I don't know precisely how it
works because I haven't had a lot of opportunity to play
with CarPlay as my BMW doesn't have it.
I wrote nothing remotely like that.
You: Post a video with sound showing the 12999 address
error with Siri lookup and you will admit it's really an
error?
How about you do the last part first, Little Shit?
Here is what I plan to do: 1. Use a second phone to
record the video in order to capture sound. 2. Turn off
Siri. 3. Use the mic in the Maps search bar to try and
find the 12999 address by dictation only. 4. Turn Siri
back on. 5. Retraining Siri voice recognition is
required, and will be performed. 6. Use Siri to try and
find the 12999 address.
How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania
Street".
...hmmm?
Well, I have had 4 years of CarPlay experience spread over 3
cars. My Honda Insight, the current Accord and the wife's
2015 CRV with a retrofit Pioneer entertainment
system/wireless CarPlay have taught me a lot. At least you
were honest about lack of first hand knowledge.
Hint, CarPlay has no non-Siri option. As I show in the videoSo that is a CHOICE Apple has made; most likely because they
below CarPlay will not even run unless Siri is active on
your controlling iPhone. Siri is the only CarPlay voice
command.
want you to not interact with a touchscreen unless there is no
other way.
Hello Google verbal search is not permitted on the CarPlaySo? How is that relevant?
platform.
FYI you can get to Google Maps verbal search with 3 fingerYup. iOS. Map screen, tap text entry box, tap microphone icon
touches: Map screen/Search/Microphone icon is the touch
combination once Google Maps is in full screen mode.
in keyboard.
If not on CarPlay no touching is required for Google MapsStop mixing these two things up.
directions:
Hey Siri/Hey Google/Go to <say destination address> takes youBecause, you incredible simpleton:
to Google Maps with the route up on Google Maps and ready to
be started from current location. Why not on CarPlay? Apple
wants you to use THEIR inferior voice response and Maps. If
you are already in the Maps app and make a Siri destination
request why does Siri need "navigate to..."? Makes no sense
to me.
SIRI IS NOT JUST VOICE RECOGNITION.
You can use Siri while you happen to be looking at the Maps
app...
...because Siri can do other things!
You're not using Google's equivalent of Siri when you tap the
microphone icon from within Google maps. That is equivalent to
tapping the microphone icon in Apple
Sorry it took a few days, but here is the detailed Car Play
video with narration. In the car, in the garage and out,
using Siri/Apple Maps and Google/Google Maps. Siri fails on
multiple levels. Car Play will not even run unless Siri is
enabled. Why? Google Maps needs 3 tries to find bakerMedia,
but otherwise flawless.
It's a lot more detailed and honest video than your attempt
by someone with limited experience. Note that the upload
finished at about 1720 EDT today 19 May. It takes Google some
time to do their processing and make it playable from the
cloud. Suggest you wait a few hours before trying access.
1.28 GB 60 FPS 1080p HD.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SDYVyHb79Qf1mk97NDUOxAxbIQ9zmsoS/view?usp=share_link
Every Google device I've interacted with uses "Okay Google"Little Shit, Little Shit, Little Shit.
And you said "Go to" when I EXPLICITLY told you what to say:
Why? Because you are a liar done to your core.How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania
Street".
Note an issue that you need to consider:
Can Siri tell if you said:
"go to one two nine nine nine"
or
"go two one two nine nine nine"
...hmmm?
And show a different outcome for your home address...
...because you used a different method to invoke Siri.
You it the "Search" button within the Maps app, so Siri
already knows that whatever you say next is going to be a
destination. The clue was Siri saying "Directions to where?".
And "Corsair Field, Danville Indiana" is a VERY obscure CLUB.
Not a business at all.
"Indianapolis R/C flyers, [mumble]town" is actually called
"Indianapolis R/C MODELLERS", but that was just an error on
your part, right, Little Shit?
And this isn't about Siri being perfect. It's about you (now)
deliberately misusing it to try to "prove" your points.
But you'd better use Google Maps in CarPlay while you're
parked, him...
...anyone can see how long your attention would have to be on
a touchscreen rather than on the road.
As for not finding "baker media vancouver"...
...the only possible purpose for that is your continued attempt
to stalk/dox me.
And Siri's successes and failures have NOTHING to do with
whether you are inside or outside your garage.
If you think any of this is at all based on "cell reception",
you're not just a liar... ...you're an ignoramus. Siri, Apple
Maps (and not it isn't "Apple Maps in Siri"; that's just
another stunning misunderstanding of what is going on) and
Google Maps both use voice-to-text processing to convert what
you say into text and then used their designed processes to
search their respective databases for an answer.
Apple's location database doesn't have "Corsair Field,
Danville Indiana" in it. It has nothing to with Siri
whatsoever. Try typing it in on your iPad or iPhone and you'll
get precisely the same result.
Now, How about you simply make a video including your voice
saying:
"Hey Siri, driving directions to 12999 Pennsylvania Street".
And how about you admit that I showed you a video of my iPhone
working perfectly. (Although, I do admit that it gets confused
by "Carmel"—because of "Carmel-by-the-sea" being so much closer
to me—and so I say "Indianapolis")
But my bet is that you did try out my explicit instructions
and they DID work.
So that's why you deliberately set out to make Siri fail by
saying "go to".
One thing that I will say to you (much more for the benefit of
others) is that you can vary how long Siri will wait for to
keep speaking (how long you can pause while you collect your
thoughts) but you need to find that under
Settings:Accessibility:Siri, not under "Siri & Search" (which
is a little dumb).
BTW, you can turn on the option to have Siri always show what
it has interpreted as what you spoke. When I did that for your
"go to/two/too one two nine nine nine pennsylvania street", it
shows very quickly what happened.
Also, BTW. Siri would happily give you "driving directions to
manor care carmel indiana" (replying "Getting driving
directions to HCR ManorCare..." And despite all the obscure
little clubs Apple Maps didn't have data for, you somehow just
overlooked that option, huh?
Also, also, BTW, your vaunted Google Maps fails utterly to
find YOUR business... ...even if I type it in so there can be
no error. "FXXXXXXN LLC"
Interesting you were happy to dox me, but didn't want to show
that in your video, did you?
Alan, Alan, Alan.
No. Siri is a digital assistant that USES voice recognition.
Siri is voice recognition. Any time you say Hey Siri your device
starts listening and Siri turns your voice commands to actions
programmed into the system.
If Siri was only voice recognition, it wouldn't do anything with
the words you spoke.
Your first error was trying to use Siri as if it only did
directions, so you thought simply speaking an address
Let's see the video...you lying Little Shit.
OK, I just followed your very precise driving directions search
phrase. You are right it does work. BUT if I omit "Carmel
Indiana" it fails. If say "Navigate To" or "Go To" it fails.
Thanks, you make my point. Siri requires a very precise spoken
phrase to find this address.
Google does not. "Go To" and "Drive To" work just fine for GoogleBecause Google MAPS has a tighter FOCUS. Google MAPS assumes that
Maps. Google is much better at interpreting context and
performing the requested task.
anything you SPEAK to when tapping the microphone icon in Google
MAPS is in the context of a LOCATION.
You talk about "Hey Google" doing something that "Hey Siri" doesn't
What's the point of wanting "Hey Google" in place of "Hey Siri"
on iPhone? It actually works where Siri fails.
(and expose that you don't actually know what it would do, because
the activating phrase for Google's voice assistant is "Okay
Google"), but no actual example has show you USING "Hey Google".
Funny that.
After all, I can choose my default browser and email. Why notYou just proved you're a lying Little Shit.
voice commands too? Apple forces you to use Siri, a clearly
inferior solution. You just proved it. Thanks very much.
Again.
Ah, so your video was edited.
Finally, I only had one bar of cell reception in the garage. Not
on the video there were some lookup failures, so I left the
garage for better reception.
Got it.
You lie again when you said:
"You talk about "Hey Google" doing something that "Hey Siri" doesn't
(and expose that you don't actually know what it would do, because
the activating phrase for Google's voice assistant is "Okay Google"),
but no actual example has show you USING "Hey Google"."
We have 7 Google Assistant speaker devices in our home. How many do
you have?
"OK Google" "Hi Google" and "Hey Google" all activate a device with
Google Assistant voice response.
The default is "Hey Google":
https://support.google.com/assistant/answer/9249169?hl=en
You don't have CarPlay in your car and you don't have much experience
with Google Assistant. You lie when you imply to know these
technologies based on extensive personal use.
But being wrong about that isn't a lie.
Lying is pretending you can't understand that tapping a microphone icon
within a mapping app and speaking an address is different from saying
just an address to a multi-purpose digital assistant.
Threats, you Little Shit?
Over on rec.sport.golf your posts are getting zero response. They
have you figured out. I'm about the last person on newsgroups you can
get a good argument out of. Will you miss me if I go away too?
Since I'm already a such a liar already maybe I'll just have to
reveal my secret about you after all then go away for good. :-)
Yeah... ...that's about your style.
This is a lie YOU: "and expose that you don't actually know what it would do, because
the activating phrase for Google's voice assistant is "Okay Google"
"Hey Google" works! You did not even know that Asshole LiarBoy! "OK Google" and "Hi Google" also work.
You can't find my business because it's no longer active and was never registered with Google.
By your definition being wrong is a lie! It's only not a lie when you are wrong!
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 300 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 74:43:43 |
| Calls: | 6,715 |
| Calls today: | 3 |
| Files: | 12,246 |
| Messages: | 5,357,277 |