You think Google adds them for no reason whatsoever? The fact remains these >> debugging tools exist for Android and yet they're impossible on iOS.
if the unnamed google debugging tools are so powerful, why is it that
you couldn't use any of them to get *sample* *code* to work?
At least I have a dozen apps published on the Android ng, with the src.
bullshit.
We're also doing a lot of IOT from
mobile devices and we have to use Android for that, way too complex to
deal with the whole iOS App system.
rubbish. iot development (which you've clearly never done) is easier on
ios because of excellent homekit, matter and thread support.
You can't even figure out how a Usenet message header path functions.
Gato wrote:
You can't even figure out how a Usenet message header path functions.
Two ways to respond to that, one of which is to let you know I don't use a newsreader since my "editor" is 'vi' and my 'newsreader' is 'telnet' so the headers, like wrapping paper, aren't the package which is the gift inside.
You can't even figure out how a Usenet message header path functions.
Two ways to respond to that, one of which is to let you know I don't use a >> newsreader since my "editor" is 'vi' and my 'newsreader' is 'telnet' so the >> headers, like wrapping paper, aren't the package which is the gift inside.
Riiiiiiiight.
BTW:
What apps have you written?
On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 21:29:13 -0700, Alan wrote:
Riiiiiiiight.You can't even figure out how a Usenet message header path functions.
Two ways to respond to that, one of which is to let you know I don't use a >>> newsreader since my "editor" is 'vi' and my 'newsreader' is 'telnet' so the >>> headers, like wrapping paper, aren't the package which is the gift inside. >>
BTW:
What apps have you written?
He very many times said he doesn't consider himself a developer.
Even so, he pointed you to what looks like something like a few thousand lines of working code in those tutorials that sure look like they work because plenty of other people tried it as I could tell from skimming. https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/aW64zYeBtF0/m/UGv7e6lvBAAJ
You did click on his link before you said he didn't write apps, riiiiiight? How could you have missed that there are thousands of lines of code there?
If there are ten or twenty apps in that posted published source code,
then that's ten or twenty more apps than nospam has published, isn't it?
Knowing he's published ten or twenty apps, how many have YOU published?
On 2023-04-02 11:49, Maxmillian wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 21:29:13 -0700, Alan wrote:
Riiiiiiiight.You can't even figure out how a Usenet message header path functions. >>>>Two ways to respond to that, one of which is to let you know I don't use a >>>> newsreader since my "editor" is 'vi' and my 'newsreader' is 'telnet' so the
headers, like wrapping paper, aren't the package which is the gift inside. >>>
BTW:
What apps have you written?
He very many times said he doesn't consider himself a developer.
Even so, he pointed you to what looks like something like a few thousand
lines of working code in those tutorials that sure look like they work
because plenty of other people tried it as I could tell from skimming.
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/aW64zYeBtF0/m/UGv7e6lvBAAJ >>
You did click on his link before you said he didn't write apps, riiiiiight? >> How could you have missed that there are thousands of lines of code there?
"Thousands" Hardly.
If there are ten or twenty apps in that posted published source code,
then that's ten or twenty more apps than nospam has published, isn't it?
Knowing he's published ten or twenty apps, how many have YOU published?
"Published"? Do you mean actually created?
Because code is easy to copy and paste.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-04-02 11:49, Maxmillian wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 21:29:13 -0700, Alan wrote:"Thousands" Hardly.
You can't even figure out how a Usenet message header path functions. >>>>>Two ways to respond to that, one of which is to let you know I don't use a
newsreader since my "editor" is 'vi' and my 'newsreader' is 'telnet' so the
headers, like wrapping paper, aren't the package which is the gift inside.
Riiiiiiiight.
BTW:
What apps have you written?
He very many times said he doesn't consider himself a developer.
Even so, he pointed you to what looks like something like a few thousand >>> lines of working code in those tutorials that sure look like they work
because plenty of other people tried it as I could tell from skimming.
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/aW64zYeBtF0/m/UGv7e6lvBAAJ
You did click on his link before you said he didn't write apps, riiiiiight? >>> How could you have missed that there are thousands of lines of code there? >>
If there are ten or twenty apps in that posted published source code,
then that's ten or twenty more apps than nospam has published, isn't it? >>>
Knowing he's published ten or twenty apps, how many have YOU published?
"Published"? Do you mean actually created?
Because code is easy to copy and paste.
Even easier now with Co-Pilot and chatGPT. You don't need to write a single line of code for the very simplest app.
Even easier now with Co-Pilot and chatGPT. You don't need to write a single line of code for the very simplest app.
...and he pretty obviously plagiarized.
On 2023-04-03 04:55, Chris wrote:
Even easier now with Co-Pilot and chatGPT. You don't need to write a
single line of code for the very simplest app.
I've played with ChatGPT to write some basic snippets of code, and it
can do that pretty well (easier to head over to github and find better
stuff if you need it).
As an example I asked it to write a simple command-line Python program
for Mac OS to display images from a folder and to advance to the next
image when I hit spacebar. The code would not run w/o error: the
image code library it wanted to load did not exist. The code "looked"
okay, but it would not run.
On 2023-04-03, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-04-03 04:55, Chris wrote:
Even easier now with Co-Pilot and chatGPT. You don't need to write a
single line of code for the very simplest app.
I've played with ChatGPT to write some basic snippets of code, and it
can do that pretty well (easier to head over to github and find better
stuff if you need it).
As an example I asked it to write a simple command-line Python program
for Mac OS to display images from a folder and to advance to the next
image when I hit spacebar. The code would not run w/o error: the
image code library it wanted to load did not exist. The code "looked"
okay, but it would not run.
Which is to be expected. It's simply sourcing code snippets that are available on the net, many of which are incomplete, buggy, and not
suitable for working production environments. Garbage in, garbage out.
In the end it's not much more useful than a visit to StackOverflow.
You'll still need a human being to clean the code up, refactor for
purpose, and debug it. We're a hell of a long way off from AI replacing actual software developers.
FACT: *Only iOS lacks torrenting apps on the app store*
whoosh
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
...and he pretty obviously plagiarized.
It seems like you have never written any code yourself by what you said.
I looked at the many applications which are published in that thread.
He honestly stated from the beginning he wasn't a developer.
His first application was "hello world" which is normal for people
just starting out - so if you say he plagiarized hello world, you're a fool as you don't know what it takes to actually get all the ducks lined up.
His code started with hello world and then he added more things over time.
People were asking him to implement features and he implemented them.
Then people tested the implementations and found bugs & told him about it.
He fixed those bugs. And then people said it was then working for them.
You don't know the first thing about code if you missed all that.
Besides, this thread isn't about his twenty or thirty applications.
He's not a developer and he said so.
It's nospam who says he's a developer. Not him.
Where are nospam's applications?
have no doubt Android can do automation and probably better than iOS,
it can't.
but I had trouble finding anything in those links which addressed
Android's capabilities in a similar fashion to the Accessibility
features of iOS hearing aid support. Manufacturer apps just don't seem
to tap into the additional functions available at the OS level, but
admittedly my sample size is only one...
that's because hardware manufacturers generally are not good at writing software, even with some of the larger companies who have the budget to
do so, with camera companies being one of the more common examples.
if their apps are cross-platform, they are limited to features common
between both and ignore anything unique on only one platform.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
It seems like you have never written any code yourself by what you said.
I haven't written much code.
But I can READ code.
Add I can COMPARE it against the results of a Google search.
Good. Point to YOUR code and I'll compare it for you.
I'll patiently wait but do not reply without a link to YOUR code please.
He worked his way through a tutorial that basically spoon-fed him.
You only read the first post.
He created entire apps from scratch.
Maybe you don't know how to read code after all.
It seems like you have never written any code yourself by what you said.
I haven't written much code.
But I can READ code.
Add I can COMPARE it against the results of a Google search.
His code started with hello world and then he added more things over time.
He worked his way through a tutorial that basically spoon-fed him.
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