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Below is nospam's first response but what I'm asking for here is someone
other than nospam to answer the question, because his credibility is zero.

Could a "magsafe" charger get full spec output with a 5W usb brick?
Yes or No?

--
nospam wrote:

I'll openly and publicly easily admit I know absolutely nothing

progress.

You take all bait, like a dumb mouse greedily eying the loaded mousetrap,
where you actually think it's "witty" to make your kindergarten responses
which is how I know you own the thought process of a mere child, nospam.

It's why you never recognize the glue trap Apple craftily laid for you.

Whether or not a 5W USB-A

usb-a is capable of more than 5w.

I have too much experience with your ignorant claims, nospam, such as the
ones you make when you fabricate imaginary iOS functionality - all the
time.

So nothing you say is credible.
However, maybe you do know about magsafe charging needs.

As I said, I know nothing about magsafe so, to test your wild claim that
any old USB-A charger will power the magsafe and/or Qi wireless chargers,
I dutifully opened this thread where I'll await confirmation of your claim.

*Could a "magsafe" wireless charger get full spec output*
*with a 5W usb brick (5V at 1 amp)?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/NryYv1SF81o>

My main point was nobody is going to share chargers, period.
With any device.

covid can do that.

Again, the preposterous excuse you make for Apple's greed in removing the charger from the box, nospam, is that you claim everyone has 1A 5W bricks,
and, if they happen to have a modern PD charger, you claim that everyone
is willing to share their one charger with everyone else in the household.

What's no longer shocking, nospam, is your claims belie your ignorance.

You are so ignorant of all things Apple, that you actually _believe_ a 5W
1-amp 5VDC charger will charge a modern iPhone at the speeds you paid for.

Nobody is _that_ ignorant except you iKooks, nospam.

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On 2023-01-22 13:31, Andy Burnelli wrote:

Below is nospam's first response but what I'm asking for here is someone other than nospam to answer the question, because his credibility is zero.

Could a "magsafe" charger get full spec output with a 5W usb brick?
Yes or No?

Define your terms.

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In article <tqkndc$1i2s$1@gioia.aioe.org>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

The early iPhones came with 5W (5V/1A) chargers.

and ipads came with 10w and 12w chargers, which were often used for
charging iphones.

Obviously they can't power a 15W MagSafe charger. Why would anyone
believe that they could?

because they can, up to the limit of the charger, although a usb-a to
usb-c adapter would be needed.

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On 2023-01-22 17:20, sms wrote:

On 1/22/2023 4:30 PM, Alan wrote:

On 2023-01-22 13:31, Andy Burnelli wrote:

Below is nospam's first response but what I'm asking for here is someone >>> other than nospam to answer the question, because his credibility is
zero.

Could a "magsafe" charger get full spec output with a 5W usb brick?
Yes or No?

Define your terms.

LOL, what do you mean? The early iPhones came with 5W (5V/1A) chargers.

Obviously they can't power a 15W MagSafe charger. Why would anyone
believe that they could? Two of our most famous trolls arguing over
something so absurd is why G-d invented filters.

Note he's placed "magsafe" in quotes.

And he hasn't defined "full spec output"

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On 1/22/2023 4:30 PM, Alan wrote:

On 2023-01-22 13:31, Andy Burnelli wrote:

Below is nospam's first response but what I'm asking for here is someone
other than nospam to answer the question, because his credibility is
zero.

Could a "magsafe" charger get full spec output with a 5W usb brick?
Yes or No?

Define your terms.

LOL, what do you mean? The early iPhones came with 5W (5V/1A) chargers.

Obviously they can't power a 15W MagSafe charger. Why would anyone
believe that they could? Two of our most famous trolls arguing over
something so absurd is why G-d invented filters.

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sms wrote:

Why should anyone care if a cube charger released more than a decade ago
can or cannot be used with a much more modern piece of kit?

Not sure since I have those trolls filtered out

As a result...
a. You lose a lot of information, Steve.
b. You lose a lot of facts.
c. Worse, you make incorrect decisions because you don't know those facts.

but I suspect that
"nospam" is insisting that no one needs to buy a new charger when they
buy a new iPhone that doesn't come with a charger because their old 5W charger will still work, while "Andy" is insisting that a new charger is necessary because MagSafe needs at least a 12W power adapter, and 20W is recommended <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211829>.

You suspect correctly - where if you can't figure out my posts from the
SUBJECT line alone then you're not as smart as I have given you credit for.

:)

While you can certainly get by with an old 5W power adapter, on a newer iPhone, for wired charging, it isn't a great idea for multiple reasons.

Thanks Steve for answering the question which you correctly ascertained was asked because nospam repeatedly insisted any old 5V 1A 5W charger charges
at full power using both the Magsafe and Qi chargers we were discussing.

I doubted nospam for two reasons, the first of which is nospam is always ignorant of what Apple products can do, but the second was that the wattage just didn't add up to what is needed given the low input & losses involved.

However, since I said from the start I don't know anything about Magsafe, I asked this question to find out if nospam was lying, ignorant, or correct.

All I care about are the facts.
I don't try to defend Apple to the death like nospam does.

I just wanted to know the truth.

Turns out, based on your answer, nospam was just ignorant about Magsafe.
And it turns out nospam was ignorant about Qi charging also I'm sure.

The amount nospam is ignorant of with Apple products is no longer shocking.

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On 2023-01-23 07:14, Andy Burnelli wrote:

sms wrote:

Why should anyone care if a cube charger released more than a decade
ago can or cannot be used with a much more modern piece of kit?

Not sure since I have those trolls filtered out

As a result... a. You lose a lot of information, Steve.
b. You lose a lot of facts. c. Worse, you make incorrect decisions
because you don't know those facts.

but I suspect that "nospam" is insisting that no one needs to buy a
new charger when they buy a new iPhone that doesn't come with a
charger because their old 5W charger will still work, while "Andy" is
insisting that a new charger is necessary because MagSafe needs at
least a 12W power adapter, and 20W is recommended
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211829>.

You suspect correctly - where if you can't figure out my posts from the SUBJECT line alone then you're not as smart as I have given you credit for.

:)

While you can certainly get by with an old 5W power adapter, on a
newer iPhone, for wired charging, it isn't a great idea for multiple
reasons.

Thanks Steve for answering the question which you correctly ascertained was asked because nospam repeatedly insisted any old 5V 1A 5W charger charges
at full power using both the Magsafe and Qi chargers we were discussing.

I doubted nospam for two reasons, the first of which is nospam is always ignorant of what Apple products can do, but the second was that the wattage just didn't add up to what is needed given the low input & losses involved.

However, since I said from the start I don't know anything about Magsafe, I asked this question to find out if nospam was lying, ignorant, or correct.

All I care about are the facts.
I don't try to defend Apple to the death like nospam does.

I just wanted to know the truth.

Because you're too stupid to know that 15 is bigger than 5?

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On 2023-01-23 07:14, Andy Burnelli wrote:

sms wrote:

Why should anyone care if a cube charger released more than a decade
ago can or cannot be used with a much more modern piece of kit?

Not sure since I have those trolls filtered out

As a result... a. You lose a lot of information, Steve.
b. You lose a lot of facts. c. Worse, you make incorrect decisions
because you don't know those facts.

but I suspect that "nospam" is insisting that no one needs to buy a
new charger when they buy a new iPhone that doesn't come with a
charger because their old 5W charger will still work, while "Andy" is
insisting that a new charger is necessary because MagSafe needs at
least a 12W power adapter, and 20W is recommended
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211829>.

You suspect correctly - where if you can't figure out my posts from the SUBJECT line alone then you're not as smart as I have given you credit for.

:)

While you can certainly get by with an old 5W power adapter, on a
newer iPhone, for wired charging, it isn't a great idea for multiple
reasons.

Thanks Steve for answering the question which you correctly ascertained was asked because nospam repeatedly insisted any old 5V 1A 5W charger charges
at full power using both the Magsafe and Qi chargers we were discussing.\

No....

I don't ever recall him saying that.

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