I recently noticed that my Dell was using up the battery when it is in
the travel bag and in sleep mode. Turns out that "modern" sleep mode is
far from the old mode that used battery to keep only RAM alive. This new version keeps WiFi alive (and CPU?) and is constantly pinging for a connection, presumably to check for updates etc. Basically, the only
thing that sleeps in this mode is the screen.
Thomas E. <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
I recently noticed that my Dell was using up the battery when it is in
the travel bag and in sleep mode. Turns out that "modern" sleep mode is
far from the old mode that used battery to keep only RAM alive. This new
version keeps WiFi alive (and CPU?) and is constantly pinging for a
connection, presumably to check for updates etc. Basically, the only
thing that sleeps in this mode is the screen.
Use Hibernate instead. It dumps all RAM to a temp file on the disk and
does a total shutdown. Upon startup it reads the temp file and restores everything exactly as it was. With an SSD this is very fast.
On 2022-12-25 20:20, Bob Campbell wrote:
Thomas E. <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
I recently noticed that my Dell was using up the battery when it is in
the travel bag and in sleep mode. Turns out that "modern" sleep mode is
far from the old mode that used battery to keep only RAM alive. This new >>> version keeps WiFi alive (and CPU?) and is constantly pinging for a
connection, presumably to check for updates etc. Basically, the only
thing that sleeps in this mode is the screen.
Use Hibernate instead. It dumps all RAM to a temp file on the disk and
does a total shutdown. Upon startup it reads the temp file and restores
everything exactly as it was. With an SSD this is very fast.
On a Mac, all that is handled automatically.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-12-25 20:20, Bob Campbell wrote:
Thomas E. <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
I recently noticed that my Dell was using up the battery when it is in >>>> the travel bag and in sleep mode. Turns out that "modern" sleep mode is >>>> far from the old mode that used battery to keep only RAM alive. This new >>>> version keeps WiFi alive (and CPU?) and is constantly pinging for a
connection, presumably to check for updates etc. Basically, the only
thing that sleeps in this mode is the screen.
Use Hibernate instead. It dumps all RAM to a temp file on the disk and >>> does a total shutdown. Upon startup it reads the temp file and restores >>> everything exactly as it was. With an SSD this is very fast.
On a Mac, all that is handled automatically.
On Windows too. You can set the power button to hibernate (or sleep or
shut down or do nothing). Same for closing the lid on a laptop.
On 2022-12-26 07:00, Bob Campbell wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-12-25 20:20, Bob Campbell wrote:
Thomas E. <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
I recently noticed that my Dell was using up the battery when it is in >>>>> the travel bag and in sleep mode. Turns out that "modern" sleep mode is >>>>> far from the old mode that used battery to keep only RAM alive. This new >>>>> version keeps WiFi alive (and CPU?) and is constantly pinging for a
connection, presumably to check for updates etc. Basically, the only >>>>> thing that sleeps in this mode is the screen.
Use Hibernate instead. It dumps all RAM to a temp file on the disk and >>>> does a total shutdown. Upon startup it reads the temp file and restores >>>> everything exactly as it was. With an SSD this is very fast.
On a Mac, all that is handled automatically.
On Windows too. You can set the power button to hibernate (or sleep or
shut down or do nothing). Same for closing the lid on a laptop.
"automatically" vs "You can set".
That to doesn't add up to "On Windows too.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-12-26 07:00, Bob Campbell wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2022-12-25 20:20, Bob Campbell wrote:
Thomas E. <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
I recently noticed that my Dell was using up the battery when it is in >>>>>> the travel bag and in sleep mode. Turns out that "modern" sleep mode is >>>>>> far from the old mode that used battery to keep only RAM alive. This new >>>>>> version keeps WiFi alive (and CPU?) and is constantly pinging for a >>>>>> connection, presumably to check for updates etc. Basically, the only >>>>>> thing that sleeps in this mode is the screen.
Use Hibernate instead. It dumps all RAM to a temp file on the disk and >>>>> does a total shutdown. Upon startup it reads the temp file and restores >>>>> everything exactly as it was. With an SSD this is very fast.
On a Mac, all that is handled automatically.
On Windows too. You can set the power button to hibernate (or sleep or
shut down or do nothing). Same for closing the lid on a laptop.
"automatically" vs "You can set".
That to doesn't add up to "On Windows too.
So a Mac automatically knows what you want to do when you press the power button? Does it read your mind?
"automatically" vs "You can set".
That to doesn't add up to "On Windows too.
Thomas E. <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
I recently noticed that my Dell was using up the battery when it is inUse Hibernate instead. It dumps all RAM to a temp file on the disk and
the travel bag and in sleep mode. Turns out that "modern" sleep mode is far from the old mode that used battery to keep only RAM alive. This new version keeps WiFi alive (and CPU?) and is constantly pinging for a connection, presumably to check for updates etc. Basically, the only
thing that sleeps in this mode is the screen.
does a total shutdown. Upon startup it reads the temp file and restores everything exactly as it was. With an SSD this is very fast.
On 2022-12-25 20:20, Bob Campbell wrote:
Thomas E. <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
I recently noticed that my Dell was using up the battery when it is in
the travel bag and in sleep mode. Turns out that "modern" sleep mode is
far from the old mode that used battery to keep only RAM alive. This new >> version keeps WiFi alive (and CPU?) and is constantly pinging for a
connection, presumably to check for updates etc. Basically, the only
thing that sleeps in this mode is the screen.
Use Hibernate instead. It dumps all RAM to a temp file on the disk and
does a total shutdown. Upon startup it reads the temp file and restores everything exactly as it was. With an SSD this is very fast.
On a Mac, all that is handled automatically.
Great idea. I tried that. It took a registry hack to enable Hibernate on
this Dell. That should have been a clue. About every 5 starts from
Hibernate failed. I did a chat with Dell tech service and they informed
that this machine's firmware does not work reliably with Hibernate. The
tech reversed the registry hack I did.
Thomas E. <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
Great idea. I tried that. It took a registry hack to enable Hibernate on this Dell. That should have been a clue. About every 5 starts from Hibernate failed. I did a chat with Dell tech service and they informed that this machine's firmware does not work reliably with Hibernate. The tech reversed the registry hack I did.Wow. I read “this machine's firmware does not work reliably with Hibernate” as “this machine is defective”. There must be a firmware update that fixes this.
That’s like saying “this machine's firmware does not work reliably with a
mouse”. Not an acceptable answer.
Its a standard Windows function. I have been using hibernate forever on multiple PCs. Desktops and laptops. Never seen it fail.
I have had to “enable” hibernate a couple times, because it did not appear
as an option in the power settings. But never using the registry. Go to
a command prompt and type “powercfg /hibernate on”.
Worth a try.
Thomas E. <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
Great idea. I tried that. It took a registry hack to enable Hibernate on this Dell. That should have been a clue. About every 5 starts from Hibernate failed. I did a chat with Dell tech service and they informed that this machine's firmware does not work reliably with Hibernate. The tech reversed the registry hack I did.
Wow. I read “this machine's firmware does not work reliably with Hibernate” as “this machine is defective”.
There must be a firmware
update that fixes this.
That’s like saying “this machine's firmware does not work reliably with a mouse”. Not an acceptable answer.
Its a standard Windows function. I have been using hibernate forever on multiple PCs. Desktops and laptops. Never seen it fail.
I have had to “enable” hibernate a couple times, because it did not appear
as an option in the power settings. But never using the registry. Go to
a command prompt and type “powercfg /hibernate on”.
Worth a try.
On Dec 27, 2022, Bob Campbell wrote
(in article<PzKdnWfi9L94uTb-...@supernews.com>):
Thomas E. <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
Great idea. I tried that. It took a registry hack to enable Hibernate on this Dell. That should have been a clue. About every 5 starts from Hibernate failed. I did a chat with Dell tech service and they informed that this machine's firmware does not work reliably with Hibernate. The tech reversed the registry hack I did.
Wow. I read “this machine's firmware does not work reliably with Hibernate” as “this machine is defective”.It’s a Dell. If you want a good Dell, be prepared to pay significant amounts of money. But then if you use significant amounts of money you can get a good Lenovo, or Mac, or even (shudder) HP.
There must be a firmwareIt’s a Dell. Don’t count on that. The company once bought a flock of Dells because they were cheap. Every one of them has been replaced by more expensive, but more reliable and capable, systems from vendors not named Dell. The only things with a Dell logo still in the building are some monitors. Even the bloody keyboards stunk. Dell achieved a miracle: they supplied a keyboard that stunk worse than _Apple_ keyboards, and Apple hasn’t made a good keyboard since the old ’Saratoga’ ADB keyboards, two
update that fixes this.
decades back. (I still have a Saratoga on my ancient beige G3. It’s still beautiful. It’s the size of an aircraft carrier, but it’s beautiful.) I won’t even mention Dell mice except to say that Logitech made some serious coin off the company.
That’s like saying “this machine's firmware does not work reliably with aAt least some Dell laptops don’t work reliably with the built-in touchpad. Guess how I know.
mouse”. Not an acceptable answer.
Its a standard Windows function. I have been using hibernate forever on multiple PCs. Desktops and laptops. Never seen it fail.Dude, you haven’t done it on a cheap Dell.
I have had to “enable” hibernate a couple times, because it did not appear
as an option in the power settings. But never using the registry. Go to
a command prompt and type “powercfg /hibernate on”.
Worth a try.
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