• Cheap PC or upgrade to a VM?

    From -hh@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 22 06:42:25 2022
    Have found a tool that requires the Windows flavor of MS-Office to run its macros, so its the perennial old question of how to go about.

    Cheap PC (probably laptop) vs which Mac VM with MS-Windows?

    Use case is pretty intermittent, so the laptop can be a cheap one;
    wondering if (laptop+OS+Office) is cheaper than (VM+OS+Office),
    and if the "Macs on ARM chip" complication that Tom had mentioned
    awhile back is still an issue or not.

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon Aug 22 18:54:56 2022
    On 2022-08-22 06:42, -hh wrote:
    Have found a tool that requires the Windows flavor of MS-Office to
    run its macros, so its the perennial old question of how to go
    about.

    Which tool is that? I like knowing about little gotchas like this.


    Cheap PC (probably laptop) vs which Mac VM with MS-Windows?

    Use case is pretty intermittent, so the laptop can be a cheap one;
    wondering if (laptop+OS+Office) is cheaper than (VM+OS+Office), and
    if the "Macs on ARM chip" complication that Tom had mentioned awhile
    back is still an issue or not.

    Windows 10 Home is $189CAD and (I think) Microsoft charges $149USD for it.

    Adding in $99 for Parallels standard or $149 for VMWare Fusion, and I
    think you'll still be struggling to buy a Windows laptop you want to use
    for less than that.

    As for the question of Apple Silicon...

    ...I'm not sure what the future holds.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Aug 22 19:55:44 2022
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 9:54:58 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-22 06:42, -hh wrote:
    Have found a tool that requires the Windows flavor of MS-Office to
    run its macros, so its the perennial old question of how to go
    about.

    Which tool is that? I like knowing about little gotchas like this.

    Some Excel financial models that are known to not run under Mac;
    not sure if it’s macros or Access.

    Cheap PC (probably laptop) vs which Mac VM with MS-Windows?

    Use case is pretty intermittent, so the laptop can be a cheap one; wondering if (laptop+OS+Office) is cheaper than (VM+OS+Office), and
    if the "Macs on ARM chip" complication that Tom had mentioned awhile
    back is still an issue or not.

    Windows 10 Home is $189CAD and (I think) Microsoft charges $149USD for it.

    Adding in $99 for Parallels standard or $149 for VMWare Fusion, and I
    think you'll still be struggling to buy a Windows laptop you want to use
    for less than that.

    Agreed; concern is that the mini may need replacement to have the horsepower


    As for the question of Apple Silicon...

    ...I'm not sure what the future holds.

    I’m thinking of Tom’s comment about Win on ARM chips.

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Tue Aug 23 08:41:00 2022
    On 2022-08-22 19:55, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 9:54:58 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-22 06:42, -hh wrote:
    Have found a tool that requires the Windows flavor of MS-Office to
    run its macros, so its the perennial old question of how to go
    about.

    Which tool is that? I like knowing about little gotchas like this.

    Some Excel financial models that are known to not run under Mac;
    not sure if it’s macros or Access.

    Probably Access.


    Cheap PC (probably laptop) vs which Mac VM with MS-Windows?

    Use case is pretty intermittent, so the laptop can be a cheap one;
    wondering if (laptop+OS+Office) is cheaper than (VM+OS+Office), and
    if the "Macs on ARM chip" complication that Tom had mentioned awhile
    back is still an issue or not.

    Windows 10 Home is $189CAD and (I think) Microsoft charges $149USD for it. >>
    Adding in $99 for Parallels standard or $149 for VMWare Fusion, and I
    think you'll still be struggling to buy a Windows laptop you want to use
    for less than that.

    Agreed; concern is that the mini may need replacement to have the horsepower


    As for the question of Apple Silicon...

    ...I'm not sure what the future holds.

    I’m thinking of Tom’s comment about Win on ARM chips.

    Well, you might want to read this:

    <https://kb.parallels.com/125375>

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 23 10:43:12 2022
    On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 11:41:02 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-22 19:55, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 9:54:58 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-22 06:42, -hh wrote:
    Have found a tool that requires the Windows flavor of MS-Office to
    run its macros, so its the perennial old question of how to go
    about.

    Which tool is that? I like knowing about little gotchas like this.

    Some Excel financial models that are known to not run under Mac;
    not sure if it’s macros or Access.

    Probably Access.

    That's what I suspect too; wonder if it would work if uploaded to 365?



    Cheap PC (probably laptop) vs which Mac VM with MS-Windows?

    Use case is pretty intermittent, so the laptop can be a cheap one;
    wondering if (laptop+OS+Office) is cheaper than (VM+OS+Office), and
    if the "Macs on ARM chip" complication that Tom had mentioned awhile
    back is still an issue or not.

    Windows 10 Home is $189CAD and (I think) Microsoft charges $149USD for it.

    Adding in $99 for Parallels standard or $149 for VMWare Fusion, and I
    think you'll still be struggling to buy a Windows laptop you want to use >> for less than that.

    Agreed; concern is that the mini may need replacement to have the horsepower


    As for the question of Apple Silicon...

    ...I'm not sure what the future holds.

    I’m thinking of Tom’s comment about Win on ARM chips.
    Well, you might want to read this:

    <https://kb.parallels.com/125375>

    Found that earlier myself too; I thought i'd heard something about how MS
    was going to be supporting ARM after the beta (or whatever). Overall, I'm mostly debating if to replace the 'interim' mini I picked up last year that has minimal specs with a Mac Studio with decent specs, as that transition from
    the Mac Pro was never completed well (inadequate boot drive). There's a
    NJ sales tax holiday next week that's an incentive to do something 'now' too...

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Aug 26 09:49:29 2022
    On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 1:43:14 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 11:41:02 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-22 19:55, -hh wrote:
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 9:54:58 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-22 06:42, -hh wrote:
    Have found a tool that requires the Windows flavor of MS-Office to
    run its macros, so its the perennial old question of how to go
    about.

    Which tool is that? I like knowing about little gotchas like this.

    Some Excel financial models that are known to not run under Mac;
    not sure if it’s macros or Access.

    Probably Access.
    That's what I suspect too; wonder if it would work if uploaded to 365?

    Cheap PC (probably laptop) vs which Mac VM with MS-Windows?

    Use case is pretty intermittent, so the laptop can be a cheap one;
    wondering if (laptop+OS+Office) is cheaper than (VM+OS+Office), and >>> if the "Macs on ARM chip" complication that Tom had mentioned awhile >>> back is still an issue or not.

    Windows 10 Home is $189CAD and (I think) Microsoft charges $149USD for it.

    Adding in $99 for Parallels standard or $149 for VMWare Fusion, and I >> think you'll still be struggling to buy a Windows laptop you want to use
    for less than that.

    Agreed; concern is that the mini may need replacement to have the horsepower


    As for the question of Apple Silicon...

    ...I'm not sure what the future holds.

    I’m thinking of Tom’s comment about Win on ARM chips.
    Well, you might want to read this:

    <https://kb.parallels.com/125375>

    Found that earlier myself too; I thought i'd heard something about how MS was going to be supporting ARM after the beta (or whatever). Overall, I'm mostly debating if to replace the 'interim' mini I picked up last year that has
    minimal specs with a Mac Studio with decent specs, as that transition from the Mac Pro was never completed well (inadequate boot drive). There's a
    NJ sales tax holiday next week that's an incentive to do something 'now' too...

    Looks like B&H has the Studio on a modest discount (-$200), which should stack with the tax holiday; figuring a base config bumped to a 2TB SSD boot drive should
    be ample horsepower as well as a good 5-7 year lifespan.

    -hh

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