• Re: Why must Arlen lie all the time? (was Re: Why do Apple operating sy

    From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 9 00:09:10 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2022-08-08, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2022-08-08 15:41, Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    All my ipads still work, including an original first generation one.

    Oh Good! Show me a screenshot of the latest Safari on that iPad.

    Oh wait! You can't.

    You lied.

    Again.

    No, Arlen: YOU lied.

    You lied by omitting much of what he said.

    No, no. That iPad is "just dead", you see. Don't believe your lying
    eyes! It's just dead. And nothing Chris, you, I, or anyone else can say
    will change this "FACT".

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Tue Aug 9 04:33:21 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    All my ipads still work, including an original first generation one.

    Oh Good! Show me a screenshot of the latest Safari on that iPad.

    Oh wait! You can't.

    You lied.

    Again.

    No, Arlen: YOU lied.

    You lied by omitting much of what he said.

    No, no. That iPad is "just dead", you see. Don't believe your lying
    eyes! It's just dead. And nothing Chris, you, I, or anyone else can say
    will change this "FACT".

    The is about updating default apps to the latest version, you morons.

    1. Chris lied when he claimed his older iPads could update Safari.
    2. The fact he so brazenly lied is indicative of his rather low IQ.
    3. He doesn't know only iKooks don't realize you can't even do it.

    Everyone else knows that iOS has the shortest default app update period.

    That's the whole point that you low-IQ uneducated iKooks don't comprehend.
    *Support for updating iOS default apps is the _shortest_ of all OSs*

    That's just a fact.
    The funny thing is you iKooks _hate_ that fact so much that you deny it.

    The fact remains iOS has the _shortest_ default app update period of all.
    *iOS just dies*

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Tue Aug 9 15:44:26 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 09/08/2022 04:33, Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:

    All my ipads still work, including an original first generation one.

    Oh Good! Show me a screenshot of the latest Safari on that iPad.

    Oh wait! You can't.

    You lied.

    Again.

    No, Arlen: YOU lied.

    You lied by omitting much of what he said.

    No, no. That iPad is "just dead", you see. Don't believe your lying
    eyes! It's just dead. And nothing Chris, you, I, or anyone else can say
    will change this "FACT".

    The is about updating default apps to the latest version, you morons.

    1. Chris lied when he claimed his older iPads could update Safari.

    If you had any credibility, you'd show where I claimed that.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Chris on Tue Aug 9 21:50:18 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    Chris wrote:

    1. Chris lied when he claimed his older iPads could update Safari.

    If you had any credibility, you'd show where I claimed that.

    Chris,

    The concept you whooshed on is that for iOS, the default apps (such as
    Safari) are part of the operating system - whether you like it or not.

    Even though this is well known to _adults_, it's clear you low-IQ
    uneducated iKooks are not aware of that well-known unassailable fact.

    The fact is that you can NOT load the latest iOS onto your older iPad.
    That means you can NOT load the latest Safari onto your older iPad.

    The point you low-IQ uneducated iKooks can't seem to comprehend is that.
    *iOS just dies*

    More specifically...
    *Support for iOS just dies*

    And more to the point...
    *Support for iOS default apps just dies*

    This is the fundamental basis for the fact that iOS dies soonest.

    Why does iOS die soonest?
    Because support for default iOS apps die soonest?

    Why don't other operating systems die sooner than does iOS?
    Because other operating systems are updated in layers - but not iOS.

    This is simple stuff Chris.
    Even you should be able to comprehend it.

    You don't need to lie.
    More specifically, you don't need to lie because you _hate_ facts.

    All you need to do is _accept_ the fact that you can't load the latest
    Safari onto your older iPads - which is just a fact you happen to hate.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Wed Aug 10 01:28:25 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2022-08-09, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    1. Chris lied when he claimed his older iPads could update Safari.

    If you had any credibility, you'd show where I claimed that.

    Chris,

    The concept you

    He can't do it, because you never claimed it. LOL! And he thinks by
    blabbing on and on, we'll just magically forget that he can't back up
    anything he says. Just SAD. : )

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Aug 10 07:07:47 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    Jolly Roger wrote:

    He can't do it, because you never claimed it. LOL! And he thinks by
    blabbing on and on, we'll just magically forget that he can't back up anything he says. Just SAD. : )

    Look Jolly Roger,

    I get it you're quaking in fear of the facts because you _hate_ facts.

    But just answer this simple _adult_ question with a YES or a NO please.

    ADULT QUESTION: *Is Safari part of iOS?*
    JOLLY ROGER ANSWER: (yes) or (no)
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    C'mon Jolly Roger... I know you're afraid. But just answer the question.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Wed Aug 10 06:33:34 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    1. Chris lied when he claimed his older iPads could update Safari.

    If you had any credibility, you'd show where I claimed that.

    Chris,

    The concept you whooshed on ..

    .. you're obsessive and have a very distorted view of reality.

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  • From cris@21:1/5 to Chris on Wed Aug 10 11:57:29 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 10/08/2022 06:33, Chris wrote:

    The concept you whooshed on ..

    .. you're obsessive and have a very distorted view of reality.

    He's right you know.
    Safari is part of iOS.

    His view of reality is correct.
    Yours is distorted.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to cris on Wed Aug 10 07:52:23 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2022-08-10 07:27, cris wrote:
    On 10/08/2022 06:33, Chris wrote:

    The concept you whooshed on ..

    .. you're obsessive and have a very distorted view of reality.

    He's right you know.
    Safari is part of iOS.

    Nope.

    It is shipped WITH the OS but it is not PART of the OS.


    His view of reality is correct.
    Yours is distorted.

    His claim was that that "iOS dies".

    It doesn't.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to cris on Wed Aug 10 11:08:21 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 8/10/2022 7:27 AM, cris wrote:
    On 10/08/2022 06:33, Chris wrote:

    The concept you whooshed on ..

    .. you're obsessive and have a very distorted view of reality.

    He's right you know.
    Safari is part of iOS.

    Yes, it's included with iOS. It used to also be available for Windows.

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  • From cris@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Aug 10 15:23:47 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 10/08/2022 15:52, Alan wrote:

    The concept you whooshed on ..

    .. you're obsessive and have a very distorted view of reality.

    He's right you know.
    Safari is part of iOS.

    Nope.

    It is shipped WITH the OS but it is not PART of the OS.

    Look it up. They are a matched set.
    When one can't be updated an longer the other can't be updated either.
    If you think otherwise it's YOUR reality which is distorted. Not his.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to scharf.steven@geemail.com on Wed Aug 10 14:38:38 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <td0s6m$1t9l3$1@dont-email.me>, sms
    <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    Safari is part of iOS.

    Yes, it's included with iOS.

    'included with' means it's not part of the os, but an included extra.

    It used to also be available for Windows.

    that was more than a decade ago, to facilitate writing web apps for
    iphones.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to cris on Thu Aug 11 10:24:41 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2022-08-10 10:53, cris wrote:
    On 10/08/2022 15:52, Alan wrote:

    The concept you whooshed on ..

    .. you're obsessive and have a very distorted view of reality.

    He's right you know.
    Safari is part of iOS.

    Nope.

    It is shipped WITH the OS but it is not PART of the OS.

    Look it up. They are a matched set.
    When one can't be updated an longer the other can't be updated either.
    If you think otherwise it's YOUR reality which is distorted. Not his.

    I know what an operating system is, and simply because Apple chooses to
    bundle Safari with the OS doesn't make it a part of the OS.

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  • From cris@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Aug 11 17:26:09 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 11/08/2022 18:24, Alan wrote:

    The concept you whooshed on ..

    .. you're obsessive and have a very distorted view of reality.

    He's right you know.
    Safari is part of iOS.

    Nope.

    It is shipped WITH the OS but it is not PART of the OS.

    Look it up. They are a matched set.
    When one can't be updated an longer the other can't be updated either.
    If you think otherwise it's YOUR reality which is distorted. Not his.

    I know what an operating system is, and simply because Apple chooses to bundle Safari with the OS doesn't make it a part of the OS.

    Then it's only your version of reality that is distorted but you can
    continue to believe whatever you want that makes you feel better about it.

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  • From News@21:1/5 to cris on Thu Aug 11 15:59:28 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 8/11/2022 3:56 PM, cris wrote:
    On 11/08/2022 18:24, Alan wrote:

    The concept you whooshed on ..

    .. you're obsessive and have a very distorted view of reality.

    He's right you know.
    Safari is part of iOS.

    Nope.

    It is shipped WITH the OS but it is not PART of the OS.

    Look it up. They are a matched set.
    When one can't be updated an longer the other can't be updated either.
    If you think otherwise it's YOUR reality which is distorted. Not his.

    I know what an operating system is, and simply because Apple chooses to
    bundle Safari with the OS doesn't make it a part of the OS.

    Then it's only your version of reality that is distorted but you can
    continue to believe whatever you want that makes you feel better about it.


    It gets him through the day and his expert-on-all-topics posts.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to News on Thu Aug 11 23:16:02 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system

    News wrote:

    It gets him through the day and his expert-on-all-topics posts.

    What Chris and Alan Baker hated was the simple fact of how iOS updates.

    Hence, the only way they could deal with that fact was to lie about it and claim that Safari and iOS updates are not indelibly intertwined after all.

    And yet, they are, so only two assessments are possible of these iKooks:
    a. They really are that stupid (i.e., they don't know how Safari updates)
    b. Or, they simply lied (Why? I don't know why. You tell me why they lied.)

    Either way, it's proof of what I've always said about these iKooks:
    *The _entire_ belief system of these iKooks is completely imaginary!*

    The fact remains:
    Only iOS uses the primitive stone-age monolithic update mechanism.

    The result being:
    Of all common consumer operating systems, *iOS updates die soonest*.

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