Yet my iPads just die.
Why?
Yet my iPads just die.
Why?
because *you* fucked up.
Yet my iPads just die.
Why?
because *you* fucked up.
What's different with the iPads is that Apple kills off the operating
system,
which wouldn't be so bad if the _entire_ set of default
applications didn't get killed off with it.
But it does.
Meanwhile,
What's different with the iPads is that Apple kills off the operating
system,
they do not.
in fact, my original ipad from more than 12 years ago still works
perfectly fine and can do everything it did when it was new, without
any issues whatsoever.
which wouldn't be so bad if the _entire_ set of default
applications didn't get killed off with it.
nothing is killed off.
But it does.
it does not.
Meanwhile,
blah blah. more incorrect bullshit demonstrating just how incredibly uninformed you are.
Specifically, why can't an older iOS update the default apps to the latest version
like all other common consumer operating systems habitually do?
in fact, my original ipad from more than 12 years ago still works
perfectly fine and can do everything it did when it was new, without
any issues whatsoever.
Bullshit.
I have access to older iPads and they can't load (almost) a damn thing.
version
because the latest versions of apps use apis and frameworks not
available in older versions of the os, exactly the same as all other
oses.
for example, newer versions of safari and many other apps use
wkwebview, which doesn't exist on older versions of ios.
another example is arkit, which is is relatively new and also benefits
from hardware not present on older devices, such as the lidar scanner. roomplan requires the lidar scanner.
like all other common consumer operating systems habitually do?
no they don't, for the same reasons.
I have access to older iPads and they can't load (almost) a damn thing.
because you fucked up and refuse to accept responsibility.
because the latest versions of apps use apis and frameworks not
available in older versions of the os, exactly the same as all other
oses.
While that's true, _why_ is it that they die far sooner on iOS?
And yet the latest Chrome works on almost every version of Android.
The older iPads... almost everything on them... can't be updated.
While that's true, _why_ is it that they die far sooner on iOS?
they don't.
And yet the latest Chrome works on almost every version of Android.
no it doesn't.
The older iPads... almost everything on them... can't be updated.
the current ipad os 15 works on ipads as far back as 2014, *eight*
years ago.
android support doesn't come anywhere close to that. older the vast
majority of android devices can't be updated beyond a couple of years.
a scarce few might be 3-4 years.
nospam wrote:
version
because the latest versions of apps use apis and frameworks not
available in older versions of the os, exactly the same as all other
oses.
While that's true, _why_ is it that they die far sooner on iOS?
for example, newer versions of safari and many other apps use
wkwebview, which doesn't exist on older versions of ios.
And yet the latest Chrome works on almost every version of Android.
another example is arkit, which is is relatively new and also benefits
from hardware not present on older devices, such as the lidar scanner.
roomplan requires the lidar scanner.
Why is it that iOS Safari dies sooner than does Chrome on Android?
like all other common consumer operating systems habitually do?
no they don't, for the same reasons.
No other operating system has this problem that the archaic iOS has.
*iOS just dies*
The whole thing (almost).
Dead. Poof. Gone.
That's just a fact.
The question isn't whether that's a fact - because it _is_ a fact.
The question is why.
I have access to older iPads and they can't load (almost) a damn thing.
because you fucked up and refuse to accept responsibility.
I'm not talking about my recent iPads; I'm talking about older iPads.
The older iPads... almost everything on them... can't be updated.
Meanwhile, _every_ other platform is still alive in terms of app updates. That's just a fact that the whole thing (almost) just dies when it's iOS.
The question is why.
Remember, I never dispute facts.
Only fool disputes facts.
It's a serious question of why _only_ Apple operating systems just die. *Nobody can name a common consumer OS with _shorter_ support than iOS!*They don't.
nospam wrote:
While that's true, _why_ is it that they die far sooner on iOS?
they don't.
Let's keep this factual discussion to an adult level nospam, shall we?
(I realize you _hate_ facts - but I'm going to stick to the facts anyway.)
Remember, I never dispute facts.
You do. Not me.
Only fool disputes facts.
Let's take the example of Safari as I _know_ Chrome doesn't go all the way back to the first Android phone (like other apps do) which makes Safari versus Chrome a "fair fight" since Chrome does NOT go all the way back.
I don't remember, offhand, how far back Chrome goes, so it's a perfect way
to start our comparison of facts between iOS & Android default app support.
And yet the latest Chrome works on almost every version of Android.
no it doesn't.
Again, only a fool disputes facts, nospam.
Let's bring out the facts.
a. You tell me which is the _oldest_ iOS the current Safari loads on.
b. I'll look up the oldest Android that the current Chrome loads on.
On 8/7/22 5:26 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
nospam wrote:
version
because the latest versions of apps use apis and frameworks not
available in older versions of the os, exactly the same as all other
oses.
While that's true, _why_ is it that they die far sooner on iOS?
for example, newer versions of safari and many other apps use
wkwebview, which doesn't exist on older versions of ios.
And yet the latest Chrome works on almost every version of Android.
another example is arkit, which is is relatively new and also benefits
from hardware not present on older devices, such as the lidar scanner.
roomplan requires the lidar scanner.
Why is it that iOS Safari dies sooner than does Chrome on Android?
like all other common consumer operating systems habitually do?
no they don't, for the same reasons.
No other operating system has this problem that the archaic iOS has.
*iOS just dies*
The whole thing (almost).
Dead. Poof. Gone.
That's just a fact.
The question isn't whether that's a fact - because it _is_ a fact.
The question is why.
I have access to older iPads and they can't load (almost) a damn thing. >>>because you fucked up and refuse to accept responsibility.
I'm not talking about my recent iPads; I'm talking about older iPads.
The older iPads... almost everything on them... can't be updated.
Meanwhile, _every_ other platform is still alive in terms of app updates.
That's just a fact that the whole thing (almost) just dies when it's iOS.
The question is why.
Okay, I usually kill Arlen's drivel threads before it gets this deep,
But I have a question, as my experience restoring and updating hundreds
of iPads annually, since 2011, has not revealed to me the answer to my question posed in the next paragraph.
I want to know what "default" apps quit working on the older iOS
devices? From my devices running iPad 2. 8.1, 9.3, and 12.3, they all include:
Messages
Safari
Remember, I never dispute facts.
evidence shows otherwise
Like a flat earth proponent denying the earth is round,
Yet my iPads just die.
Why?
Can you name a _single_ common consumer OS with a shorter lifespan than iOS?
Yet my iPads just die.
Why?
God knows. All my ipads still work, including an original first generation one.
Can you name a _single_ common consumer OS with a shorter lifespan than iOS?
My Moto G 4G only lasted 18 months. And my HTC Desire only got a year's
worth of updates.
he's already explained what happened.
Chris wrote:
All my ipads still work, including an original first generation
one.
Oh Good! Show me a screenshot of the latest Safari on that iPad.
Oh wait! You can't.
You lied.
Again.
nospam wrote:
he's already explained what happened.
It's no longer shocking you think this is about _my_ iPads when the fact is that Chris lied about _his_ iPads and I wasn't even talking about mine.
The fact is Safari just dies, along with the iOS for Chris' old iPads.
Chris lied.
Why did Chris lie?
I don't know why.
I suspect it's as simply as you iKooks all _hate_ the facts about iOS.
*iOS dies soonest* of all common consumer operating systems.
Chris wrote:
All my ipads still work, including an original first generation
one.
Oh Good! Show me a screenshot of the latest Safari on that iPad.
All my ipads still work, including an original first generation
one.
Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
Yet my iPads just die. Why?
God knows. All my ipads still work, including an original first
generation one.
Can you name a _single_ common consumer OS with a shorter lifespan than iOS?
My Moto G 4G only lasted 18 months. And my HTC Desire only got a year's
worth of updates.
On 2022-08-08 22:47:11 +0000, Alan said:
On 2022-08-08 15:41, Andy Burnelli wrote:
Chris wrote:
All my ipads still work, including an original first generation
one.
Oh Good! Show me a screenshot of the latest Safari on that iPad.
Show us a screenshot of Chrome on an Android phone that can't run
Android 6 or higher...
But according to that braindead know-nothing moron, every Android
device can run the lastest version of Android OS.
On 2022-08-08 15:41, Andy Burnelli wrote:
Chris wrote:
All my ipads still work, including an original first generation
one.
Oh Good! Show me a screenshot of the latest Safari on that iPad.
Show us a screenshot of Chrome on an Android phone that can't run
Android 6 or higher...
Chris wrote:
All my ipads still work, including an original first generation
one.
Oh Good! Show me a screenshot of the latest Safari on that iPad.
Oh wait! You can't.
You lied.
Again.
It's a serious question of why _only_ Apple operating systems just die. *Nobody can name a common consumer OS with _shorter_ support than iOS!*
Meanwhile, Android, Linux, and Windows operating systems (all of which I
own in addition to iOS) essentially are updated almost forever (in layers). <https://i.postimg.cc/gj0r2cBP/osupdate01.jpg> iOS 13.5 to iOS 15.3.1
When nospam denied my desktop is almost fifteen years old and it's _still_ updated continually by Microsoft to Windows 10, I snapped this for him: <https://i.postimg.cc/3x3pZBfP/version01.jpg> Windows & Android updates
Like a flat earth proponent denying the earth is round, nospam can't fathom that any modern consumer operating system could possibly update that long. <https://i.postimg.cc/TwN6P0QR/appleid08.jpg> Only Apple requires a login
And yet, they all continually update... Linux, Windows, and Android.
Every modern operating system updates asychronously by layers.
*_Except_ Apple operating systems!*
That means:
a. Modern operating systems other than from Apple have long support lives
b. By way of stark contrast, Apple's operating systems "*just die*".
Why?
As of Project Mainline/Treble (since renamed a few times by Google),
Android is updated in layers such that the operating system lives forever (and those layers are _all_ donated to the AOSP open source community).
And my Windows desktop was born in 2009 on whatever Windows it came with
at the time, which has been updated for free in all the 13 years since.
Yet my iPads just die.
Why?
*Why are Apple operating systems the _least in longevity_ of all common OS's?*
<https://i.postimg.cc/3x3pZBfP/version01.jpg>L Windows & Android updates
Can you name a _single_ common consumer OS with a shorter lifespan than iOS?
...
I won't speak to any other application, but I do know that on my very
old iPad Mini—the very first iPad Mini Apple released, that some
websites will no longer load properly in the Safari included with last version of iOS it can run (9.3.5).
And iOS 10 was released in 2016—just 4 years after the iPad Mini, so that's not actually a very long window in this case.
God knows. All my ipads still work, including an original first
generation one.
Same here with my iPad 1 and 2.
Safari, Messages, and a slew of other
apps continue to run on these things.
Dipshit Andy wants us not to
believe our lying eye though. We are supposed to believe our iPads are
"just dead", according to dipshit Andy.
Can you name a _single_ common consumer OS with a shorter lifespan than iOS?
My Moto G 4G only lasted 18 months. And my HTC Desire only got a year's
worth of updates.
You are supposed to ignore those as if they do not exist. It's the only
way dipshit Andy's lame trolls work. ; )
But according to that braindead know-nothing moron, every Android
device can run the lastest version of Android OS.
Oh Good! Show me a screenshot of the latest Safari on that iPad.
I will when you show me a Nexus One running the latest Chrome browser. I'll be impressed as Chrome requires Android 6 and the Nexus only got 2.3 "gingerbread".
Oh wait! You can't.
You lied.
Again.
You're projecting. Again. Lol.
But according to that braindead know-nothing moron, every Android
device can run the lastest version of Android OS.
Yes. Otherwise they "just die". ; )
Jolly Roger wrote:
God knows. All my ipads still work, including an original first
generation one.
Same here with my iPad 1 and 2.
FACTS
Like flat earthers... it's no longer shocking how iKooks can't
comprehend the basic fact that you can not load the latest Safari on
those iPads.
Safari, Messages, and a slew of other apps continue to run on these
things.
Those iPads do not load the latest Safari no matter how much you lie.
Dimwit Arlen (Andy) thinks by trimming what he said, the internet will
just magically forget he said they "just die". : ) Meanwhile, we know
very well that just because they don't run the latest version of some
apps doesn't mean they "just die" as this dimwit troll claims. He's *desperately* trying to move the goal post as usual. What a loser.
Safari, Messages, and a slew of other apps continue to run on these
things.
Those iPads do not load the latest Safari no matter how much you lie.
Those iPads don't "just die" no matter how much you lie. : )
Jolly Roger wrote:
Dimwit Arlen (Andy) thinks by trimming what he said, the internet
will just magically forget he said they "just die". : ) Meanwhile, we
know very well that just because they don't run the latest version of
some apps doesn't mean they "just die" as this dimwit troll claims.
He's *desperately* trying to move the goal post as usual. What a
loser.
When I say that iOS has the shortest support period for default apps
Why?
Seriously?
No, it is a matter of record forever that you said "iOS just dies"
which is a flat-out laughable lie as anyone who owns an older device
knows from first-hand experience, you utterly useless dingbat of a
troll.
You're scrambling and desperately trying to move the goalposts
now that your idiotic statement is being shown to be completely false,
because that's all you can do since you *can't* back up your idiotic
claim.
And frankly, it's just fucking pathetic to watch you do this over
and over again. You are incapable of learning from your mistakes.
Jolly Roger wrote:
God knows. All my ipads still work, including an original first
generation one.
Same here with my iPad 1 and 2.
FACTS
Like flat earthers... it's no longer shocking how iKooks can't comprehend
the basic fact that you can not load the latest Safari on those iPads.
Safari, Messages, and a slew of other
apps continue to run on these things.
Those iPads do not load the latest Safari no matter how much you lie.
Dipshit Andy wants us not to
believe our lying eye though. We are supposed to believe our iPads are
"just dead", according to dipshit Andy.
You are lying when you claim you loaded the _latest_ Safari onto that iPad.
Can you name a _single_ common consumer OS with a shorter lifespan
than iOS?
My Moto G 4G only lasted 18 months. And my HTC Desire only got a year's
worth of updates.
You are supposed to ignore those as if they do not exist. It's the only
way dipshit Andy's lame trolls work. ; )
It's no longer shocking how you low IQ iKooks can't comprehend the basic
fact they are _desperate_ to claim isn't a fact because they _hate_ it.
Either you iKooks don't realize the fact that the latest Safari does _not_ load onto those older iPads, or, you're simply lying to us that it does.
The WinNutjobs are extremely low IQ.
John wrote:
The WinNutjobs are extremely low IQ.
FACTS
1. It was shown, with facts, iOS is _different_ from all others OS's.
2. Specifically, default apps such as Safari are _only_ updated with iOS.
3. All other modern operating systems do NOT do something that primitive.
ASSESSMENT:
a. You can't update the default apps on iOS when you can't update iOS.
b. Yet, you _can_ update the default apps on all others no matter what.
c. Only iOS uses the primitive stone-age monolithic update mechanism.
Hence, any intelligent adult would be forced to agree to the facts:
*Apple operating systems die _far sooner_ than all other OS's do*
On 8/11/2022 3:11 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
John wrote:
The WinNutjobs are extremely low IQ.
FACTS
1. It was shown, with facts, iOS is _different_ from all others OS's.
2. Specifically, default apps such as Safari are _only_ updated with iOS.
3. All other modern operating systems do NOT do something that primitive.
ASSESSMENT:
a. You can't update the default apps on iOS when you can't update iOS.
b. Yet, you _can_ update the default apps on all others no matter what.
c. Only iOS uses the primitive stone-age monolithic update mechanism.
Hence, any intelligent adult would be forced to agree to the facts:
*Apple operating systems die _far sooner_ than all other OS's do*
Facts: Apple will provide you an IOS update for 5 years.
Android? Maybe two years of OS version updates if you are lucky.
On 8/11/2022 3:11 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
John wrote:
The WinNutjobs are extremely low IQ.
FACTS
1. It was shown, with facts, iOS is _different_ from all others OS's.
2. Specifically, default apps such as Safari are _only_ updated with iOS.
3. All other modern operating systems do NOT do something that primitive.
ASSESSMENT:
a. You can't update the default apps on iOS when you can't update iOS.
b. Yet, you _can_ update the default apps on all others no matter what.
c. Only iOS uses the primitive stone-age monolithic update mechanism.
Hence, any intelligent adult would be forced to agree to the facts:
*Apple operating systems die _far sooner_ than all other OS's do*
Facts: Apple will provide you an IOS update for 5 years.
Android? Maybe two years of OS version updates if you are lucky.
John wrote:
On 8/11/2022 3:11 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
John wrote:
The WinNutjobs are extremely low IQ.
FACTS
1. It was shown, with facts, iOS is _different_ from all others OS's.
2. Specifically, default apps such as Safari are _only_ updated with iOS. >>> 3. All other modern operating systems do NOT do something that primitive. >>>
ASSESSMENT:
a. You can't update the default apps on iOS when you can't update iOS.
b. Yet, you _can_ update the default apps on all others no matter what.
c. Only iOS uses the primitive stone-age monolithic update mechanism.
Hence, any intelligent adult would be forced to agree to the facts:
*Apple operating systems die _far sooner_ than all other OS's do*
Facts: Apple will provide you an IOS update for 5 years.
Android? Maybe two years of OS version updates if you are lucky.
Adults process FACTS, "John"... may I assume you're an adult?
1. Then, what if I told you there was a Santa at the mall today?
2. Would you use that single fact to declare Santa Claus is real?
Yes? or No?
There's an _adult_ point in asking that childish question of you, "John".
There are _many_ facts which form an _adult_ belief system, "John".
Not just from a single fact.
And certainly not from a single fact that a very clever Apple marketing organization has fed you to believe (because they omitted all the _rest_ of the salient facts, that's why).
Is your belief system that iOS does _not_ die soonest of all common
consumer operating systems based on only a single fact, or on multiple
facts?
The reason is that there are more facts to consider in terms of how long an operating system is updated when one updates _only_ as a synchronous primitive stone-age monolith while all the rest of the consumer operating systems update in the modern process which makes use of asynchronous
layers.
With that background in hand, let's get to the facts, shall we "John"?
Children form belief systems based on a single fact.
Adults are supposed to be able to do more than that.
The reason for bringing up Santa is that _adults_ are different from
children in that adults can process a _set_ of related facts.
FACTS:
A. iOS is a monolith
B. Android is not
RELATED FACTS:
A. Safari is updated with iOS (and vice versa)
B. Chrome is not
MORE RELATED FACTS:
A. Safari is _the_ (only) default browser on iOS
B. Chrome is the (main) default browser on Android
EVEN MORE RELATED FACTS:
A. SAFARI updates die far sooner than do Chrome updates.
B. On _all_ operating systems, Chrome updates last longer.
Oh My!
Those are inconvenient facts, indeed.
Now it's time to prove whether you own _adult_ comprehension of facts.
*Either you agree _iOS support dies soonest_, or you don't agree.*
Given it's clearly a fact that:
*Safari update support dies _soonest_*
And, it's a fact that:
*Safari is _only_ updated with the iOS updates*
If you don't agree because your argument is Safaris isn't updated along
with iOS and that nobody wants Safari and that it's not the default browser and that you don't need a browser anyway and that you can update Safari outside of iOS, then you're an iKook who
a. Either knows nothing about iOS,
b. Or hates what he does know about iOS.
(pick one)
If your argument is that Safari isn't part of iOS, then either
a. You're lying, or,
b. You're ignorant.
Because it is.
You don't know anything about iOS if _that_ is your argument, "John".
a. Either you're ignorant that iOS is a monolith, or,
b. You're not ignorant, and then you're lying about iOS support.
(Pick one)
It's easy for adults to see that *iOS dies soonest* of them all.
REFERENCES in the sig.
John wrote:
The WinNutjobs are extremely low IQ.
FACTS
1. It was shown, with facts, iOS is _different_ from all others OS's.
2. Specifically, default apps such as Safari are _only_ updated with iOS.
3. All other modern operating systems do NOT do something that primitive.
ASSESSMENT:
a. You can't update the default apps on iOS when you can't update iOS.
b. Yet, you _can_ update the default apps on all others no matter what.
c. Only iOS uses the primitive stone-age monolithic update mechanism.
Hence, any intelligent adult would be forced to agree to the facts:
*Apple operating systems die _far sooner_ than all other OS's do*
On 2022-08-12 00:25:37 +0000, John said:
On 8/11/2022 3:11 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
John wrote:
The WinNutjobs are extremely low IQ.
FACTS
1. It was shown, with facts, iOS is _different_ from all others OS's.
2. Specifically, default apps such as Safari are _only_ updated with iOS. >>> 3. All other modern operating systems do NOT do something that primitive. >>>
ASSESSMENT:
a. You can't update the default apps on iOS when you can't update iOS.
b. Yet, you _can_ update the default apps on all others no matter what.
c. Only iOS uses the primitive stone-age monolithic update mechanism.
Hence, any intelligent adult would be forced to agree to the facts:
*Apple operating systems die _far sooner_ than all other OS's do*
Facts: Apple will provide you an IOS update for 5 years.
Android? Maybe two years of OS version updates if you are lucky.
Please don't confuse the mentally deficient with actual facts. ;-)
On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 18:25:29 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> scrit:
On 2022-08-12 00:25:37 +0000, John said:
On 8/11/2022 3:11 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
John wrote:
The WinNutjobs are extremely low IQ.
FACTS
1. It was shown, with facts, iOS is _different_ from all others OS's.
2. Specifically, default apps such as Safari are _only_ updated with iOS. >>>> 3. All other modern operating systems do NOT do something that primitive. >>>>
ASSESSMENT:
a. You can't update the default apps on iOS when you can't update iOS. >>>> b. Yet, you _can_ update the default apps on all others no matter what. >>>> c. Only iOS uses the primitive stone-age monolithic update mechanism.
Hence, any intelligent adult would be forced to agree to the facts:
*Apple operating systems die _far sooner_ than all other OS's do*
Facts: Apple will provide you an IOS update for 5 years.
Android? Maybe two years of OS version updates if you are lucky.
Please don't confuse the mentally deficient with actual facts. ;-)
It's you who is mentally deficient if you don't know how safari updates.
John wrote:
On 8/11/2022 3:11 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
John wrote:
The WinNutjobs are extremely low IQ.
FACTS
1. It was shown, with facts, iOS is _different_ from all others OS's.
2. Specifically, default apps such as Safari are _only_ updated with
iOS.
3. All other modern operating systems do NOT do something that
primitive.
ASSESSMENT:
a. You can't update the default apps on iOS when you can't update iOS.
b. Yet, you _can_ update the default apps on all others no matter what.
c. Only iOS uses the primitive stone-age monolithic update mechanism.
Hence, any intelligent adult would be forced to agree to the facts:
*Apple operating systems die _far sooner_ than all other OS's do*
Facts: Apple will provide you an IOS update for 5 years.
Android? Maybe two years of OS version updates if you are lucky.
Adults process FACTS, "John"... may I assume you're an adult?
1. Then, what if I told you there was a Santa at the mall today?
2. Would you use that single fact to declare Santa Claus is real?
Yes? Well then, "John"...
There are _many_ facts which form an _adult_ belief system, "John".
Not just a single fact.
Children form belief systems based on a single fact.
Adults are supposed to be able to do more than that.
The reason for bringing up Santa is that _adults_ are different from
children in that adults can process a _set_ of related facts.
FACTS:
A. iOS is a monolith
B. Android is not
RELATED FACTS:
A. Safari is updated with iOS (and vice versa)
B. Chrome is not
MORE RELATED FACTS:
A. Safari is _the_ (only) default browser on iOS
B. Chrome is the (main) default browser on Android
EVEN MORE RELATED FACTS:
A. SAFARI updates die far sooner than do Chrome updates.
B. On _all_ operating systems, Chrome updates last longer.
Oh My.
Time to prove whether you own _adult_ comprehension of facts.
Either you agree iOS support dies soonest, or you don't agree.
If you don't agree because your argument is Safaris isn't updated along
with iOS and that nobody wants Safari and that it's not the default browser and that you don't need a browser anyway and that you can update Safari outside of iOS, then you're an iKook who
a. Either knows nothing about iOS, b. Or hates what he does know about iOS.
(pick one)
If your argument is that Safari isn't part of iOS, then either
a. You're lying, or, b. You're ignorant.
Because it is.
You don't know anything about iOS if _that_ is your argument, "John".
a. Either you're ignorant that iOS is a monolith, or, b. You're not
ignorant, and then you're lying about iOS support.
(Pick one)
It's easy for adults to see that *iOS dies soonest* of them all.
Noticed you completely ignored the facts I presented: IOS updates for
five years. Android version updates for two years MAX.
Facts: Apple will provide you an IOS update for 5 years.
Android? Maybe two years of OS version updates if you are lucky.
Facts: Apple will provide you an IOS update for 5 years.
Android? Maybe two years of OS version updates if you are lucky.
It's actually longer for iPhones, as they typically get iOS updates for
4V6 years before Apple stops supporting them:
<https://www.statista.com/chart/5824/ios-iphone-compatibility/>
My Samsung Galaxy S22 is updated for over five years.
It's supported up to at least 2027,
which is longer than iOS support.
Indeed. I have an iPhone 5 that still works fine. Released in 2012. 10 years old. Eat that, troll boy.
Anyways, it received an iOS update in 2020 for the GPS date rollover issue.
The poor fools stuck on Android can only dream of such support.
the iphone 5s, released in 2013, received security updates until about
a year ago, or *eight* years of support.
the iphone 5s, released in 2013, received security updates until about
a year ago, or *eight* years of support.
Indeed. I have an iPhone 5 that still works fine. Released in 2012. 10 years old. Eat that, troll boy.
Anyways, it received an iOS update in 2020 for the GPS date rollover issue.
The poor fools stuck on Android can only dream of such support.
On 14 Aug 2022 04:13:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
Facts: Apple will provide you an IOS update for 5 years.
Android? Maybe two years of OS version updates if you are lucky.
It's actually longer for iPhones, as they typically get iOS updates
for 4V6 years before Apple stops supporting them:
<https://www.statista.com/chart/5824/ios-iphone-compatibility/>
Wrong.
Indeed. I have an iPhone 5 that still works fine. Released in 2012. 10 years old. Eat that, troll boy.
Anyways, it received an iOS update in 2020 for the GPS date rollover issue.
The poor fools stuck on Android can only dream of such support.
My Samsung Galaxy S22 is scheduled to be updated up to at least 2027.
the iphone 5s, released in 2013, received security updates until about
a year ago, or *eight* years of support.
Indeed. I have an iPhone 5 that still works fine. Released in 2012. 10 >> years old. Eat that, troll boy.
Anyways, it received an iOS update in 2020 for the GPS date rollover issue. >> The poor fools stuck on Android can only dream of such support.
i forgot about that one. another good example.
Indeed. I have an iPhone 5 that still works fine. Released in 2012. 10 >>> years old. Eat that, troll boy.
Anyways, it received an iOS update in 2020 for the GPS date rollover issue. >>> The poor fools stuck on Android can only dream of such support.
My Samsung Galaxy S22 is scheduled to be updated up to at least 2027.
math is hard.
Indeed. I have an iPhone 5 that still works fine. Released in 2012. >>> 10
years old. Eat that, troll boy.
Anyways, it received an iOS update in 2020 for the GPS date rollover
issue.
The poor fools stuck on Android can only dream of such support.
My Samsung Galaxy S22 is scheduled to be updated up to at least 2027.
math is hard.
Math is hard.
For you.
The important S22 native apps are updated at least until 2037.
In article <tdav9b$gjp$1@gioia.aioe.org>, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
Indeed. I have an iPhone 5 that still works fine. Released in 2012. 10 >>> years old. Eat that, troll boy.
Anyways, it received an iOS update in 2020 for the GPS date rollover issue. >>> The poor fools stuck on Android can only dream of such support.
My Samsung Galaxy S22 is scheduled to be updated up to at least 2027.
math is hard.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
the iphone 5s, released in 2013, received security updates until about
a year ago, or *eight* years of support.
Indeed. I have an iPhone 5 that still works fine. Released in 2012. 10 years old. Eat that, troll boy.
Anyways, it received an iOS update in 2020 for the GPS date rollover issue. The poor fools stuck on Android can only dream of such support.
My old Apple PowerMac G3 lasted me 20 years before it died with a
hardware fault. Although it obviously didn't get OS updates for that
entire time, it did go from MacOS 8 through to MacOS X 10.2.
Unofficially it could have run MacOS X 10.3 as well.
On 8/14/2022 3:41 AM, nospam wrote:
In article <tda2ge$1sv9$1@gioia.aioe.org>, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
My Samsung Galaxy S22 is updated for over five years.
It's supported up to at least 2027,
that's an exception, and only because they're trying to catch up with
apple.
also, it's four years of android updates and five years of security
patches, and only 'select devices', not all samsung phones.
<https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s22-s21-and-more-get-four-
years-of-os-updates/>
Samsung had made a huge announcement today regarding software
updates. The company has confirmed at its Unpacked event that it will
now provide four years of Android OS upgrades to select devices.
other android phones are less, typically 2-3 years of support, and a
few even less.
which is longer than iOS support.
except it isn't.
the iphone 6s, released in 2015, is still getting full ios updates in
2022, nearly *seven* years later, and likely to get security patches
for another year, possibly longer.
the iphone 5s, released in 2013, received security updates until about
a year ago, or *eight* years of support.
samsung's claim of 4 years of updates and 5 years of security patches
is great, but it's not as long as ios.
When I had Samsung junk tablet back around 2014 I got only one Android version update. Since when do they give you 4 years?
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
My old Apple PowerMac G3 lasted me 20 years before it died with a
hardware fault. Although it obviously didn't get OS updates for that
entire time, it did go from MacOS 8 through to MacOS X 10.2.
Unofficially it could have run MacOS X 10.3 as well.
I have a G4 Mirror Drive Door Power Mac that still works fine. I
replaced the Power supply a couple years ago. Running MacOS 9 of
course.
In article <tda2ge$1sv9$1@gioia.aioe.org>, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:
My Samsung Galaxy S22 is updated for over five years.
It's supported up to at least 2027,
that's an exception, and only because they're trying to catch up with
apple.
also, it's four years of android updates and five years of security
patches, and only 'select devices', not all samsung phones.
<https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s22-s21-and-more-get-four- years-of-os-updates/>
Samsung had made a huge announcement today regarding software
updates. The company has confirmed at its Unpacked event that it will
now provide four years of Android OS upgrades to select devices.
other android phones are less, typically 2-3 years of support, and a
few even less.
which is longer than iOS support.
except it isn't.
the iphone 6s, released in 2015, is still getting full ios updates in
2022, nearly *seven* years later, and likely to get security patches
for another year, possibly longer.
the iphone 5s, released in 2013, received security updates until about
a year ago, or *eight* years of support.
samsung's claim of 4 years of updates and 5 years of security patches
is great, but it's not as long as ios.
<https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s22-s21-and-more-get-four- years-of-os-updates/>
Samsung had made a huge announcement today regarding software
updates. The company has confirmed at its Unpacked event that it will
now provide four years of Android OS upgrades to select devices.
other android phones are less, typically 2-3 years of support, and a
few even less.
When I had Samsung junk tablet back around 2014 I got only one Android version update. Since when do they give you 4 years?
<https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s22-s21-and-more-get-four- >> years-of-os-updates/>
Samsung had made a huge announcement today regarding software
updates. The company has confirmed at its Unpacked event that it will >> now provide four years of Android OS upgrades to select devices.
Not only do Samsung Android OS & security updates last over five years
but
the app updates including app security updates have always lasted for well over ten to fifteen more years AFTER the five year Android OS updates stop.
When I had Samsung junk tablet back around 2014 I got only one Android version update. Since when do they give you 4 years?
it's four years for the os and five years for security patches, and
only for *select* *devices*, not all samsung models.
it's new, and only for 'select devices', not all samsung models.
On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:20:32 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
it's new, and only for 'select devices', not all samsung models.
There is a lot that is new with Android updates such as the apps being promised to be supported for a dozen to fifteen years moving forward.
Look up how long the apps are now updated which is an important component. >> Ten or more years is common (no matter how much you paid for the phone).
it's not common.
On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:20:32 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
it's new, and only for 'select devices', not all samsung models.
There is a lot that is new with Android updates such as the apps being promised to be supported for a dozen to fifteen years moving forward.
There is a lot that is new with Android updates such as the apps being
promised to be supported for a dozen to fifteen years moving forward.
nobody has promised anywhere close to 15 years of support, nor will
they because the phone hardware itself will be obsolete.
When I had Samsung junk tablet back around 2014 I got only one Android
version update. Since when do they give you 4 years?
Since they saw that Apple gives you more than one or two years. ;-)
Samsung, Microsoft, etc. rarely do anything themselves and simply keep copying Apple, and often failing at that (Microsoft MP3 player being a
"good" example). Even when they do attempt to do something themselves,
it's usually so hopeless that it is quickly dropped because nobody buys
them.
On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 12:16:41 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Look up how long the apps are now updated which is an important component. >>> Ten or more years is common (no matter how much you paid for the phone).
it's not common.
Almost every Android phone in existence runs a messages app which has security updates applied to it while all old iOS devices not only do not
but which can't have any security updates applied to it due to the design.
On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 18:36:31 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
When I had Samsung junk tablet back around 2014 I got only one Android
version update. Since when do they give you 4 years?
Since they saw that Apple gives you more than one or two years. ;-)
Samsung, Microsoft, etc. rarely do anything themselves and simply keep
copying Apple, and often failing at that (Microsoft MP3 player being a
"good" example). Even when they do attempt to do something themselves,
it's usually so hopeless that it is quickly dropped because nobody buys
them.
Android used to be negligent at security updates for the operating system
and for the old important apps like the browser, mail client and messenger just like iOS was/is terrible at updating the security of old apps but the difference is Android app security update has improved while iOS has not.
Android used to be negligent at security updates for the operating system
and for the old important apps like the browser, mail client and messenger >> just like iOS was/is terrible at updating the security of old apps but the >> difference is Android app security update has improved while iOS has not.
The difference is that Android is non-working crap, while iOS is not.
Now f-off and stopposting this troll garbage everywhere!!
sentence you said you don't want Apple to copy Android which often gives the Android owners ten to fifteen years of application security updates?
Assumes facts not in evidence.
The first release of Android was in September 2008, so it has been 15
years yet.
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 08:25:01 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
Android used to be negligent at security updates for the operating system >>> and for the old important apps like the browser, mail client and messenger >>> just like iOS was/is terrible at updating the security of old apps but the >>> difference is Android app security update has improved while iOS has not. >>The difference is that Android is non-working crap, while iOS is not.
You said Android copied Apple (and they did) when Android updated their operating system and system security updates for five years but in the same sentence you said you don't want Apple to copy Android which often gives
the Android owners ten to fifteen years of application security updates?
Now f-off and stopposting this troll garbage everywhere!!
Why wouldn't you want your iOS applications to be updated for many years after the operating system is no longer being updated like Android does?
Why wouldn't you want your iOS applications to be updated for many years after the operating system is no longer being updated
Another braindead troll added to the killfile.
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 08:25:01 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
Android used to be negligent at security updates for the operating system >>> and for the old important apps like the browser, mail client and messenger >>> just like iOS was/is terrible at updating the security of old apps but the >>> difference is Android app security update has improved while iOS has not. >>The difference is that Android is non-working crap, while iOS is not.
You said Android copied Apple (and they did) when Android updated their operating system and system security updates for five years but in the same sentence you said you don't want Apple to copy Android which often gives
the Android owners ten to fifteen years of application security updates?
Now f-off and stopposting this troll garbage everywhere!!
Why wouldn't you want your iOS applications to be updated for many years after the operating system is no longer being updated like Android does?
the motorola droid from 2009 stopped getting updates in 2011 or so,
then google later nixed android marketplace, so even using that phone
today, it's stuck with whatever os and apps are on it
The iOS and Android operating system and patches last about the same time.
App security updates on Android will last ~ten years longer than on iOS.
Why wouldn't you want your iOS applications to be updated for many years
after the operating system is no longer being updated
they are.
however, that's up to the app developer, not apple.
The iOS and Android operating system and patches last about the same time.
no they don't.
App security updates on Android will last ~ten years longer than on iOS.
no it won't.
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 09:21:17 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
Another braindead troll added to the killfile.
You said Android copied Apple on the five years of OS & security updates.
I agreed with you.
I brought up the similar idea that Apple should think about copying Android on the ten or more years of app security updates.
You plonked me for that app security improvement suggestion.
That says much about you.
Another example where iOS apps are always the shortest lived of all common consumer operating systems came up today when Steve mentioned the iPhone16. *Is Astrophotography Coming to the iPhone 14/iOS 16?* <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/AXaIL5WZ4qY>
Almost all of Android is open sourced, so it's easy for people to port the best Google apps (such as the ones Steve talked about iOS maybe getting).
As always, Android lasts (nearly) forever while iOS apps... well...
*iOS just dies*
Sorry. While Android apps live on (essentially) forever... your iOS
apps... *They just die*
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