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nospam wrote:

<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

On 7/12/2022 12:53 PM, badgolferman wrote:

Thought you might be interested, smsŠ

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Opensignal is out today with its latest in-depth report on 5G. T-Mobile
continues to lead the pack when it comes to 5G download/upload speeds,
availability, and reach. Meanwhile, Verizon did repeat its wins for the 5G >>> Voice app and Games experiences in the latest report.

Glad it's working out for you. For most people, coverage is more
important than peak 5G download speed, but it it makes you happy to
ignore the coverage issue so be it.

except that t-mobile has *both* better coverage *and* better speeds,
and it's not even close.

<https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2022/07/opensignal-cover age-5g_availability-5g.png>

<https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2022/07/opensignal-5g-re port-july-download-speed.png>

Bob Campbell wrote:

My reading of the above is that the 5G hype is WAY overblown. That
averages to 24% of phone users have 5G available at any given time.

How about four hundred megabits per second indoors?
<https://i.postimg.cc/tTLPdVXj/speedtest23.jpg> T-mo 419 & 390 Mbps 5G UC

The 5G service in any one spot (e.g., at your home or place of work), is consistent, so if it has 5G coverage, then you have 5G coverage 100% of the time at that spot. These real-world readings are all taken INDOORS.
<https://i.postimg.cc/SsXCzGbd/speedtest22.jpg> T-mo 377, 414, 443 Mbps

Given I never cared about 5G until I was fortuitously given a handful of
free 5G phones about a year ago by my carrier, I might have easily agreed
with Bob Campbell - but with these new 5G phones, I now know better.
<https://i.postimg.cc/qR4BcjfM/speedtest19.jpg> Ookla test log results

Luckily for me I don't work - but - at home - the 5G service has just been getting BETTER and better (see previous threads with badgolferman on that).
<https://i.postimg.cc/vTfn0HB6/speedtest21.jpg> Speed tests over time

Notice the RSRP *indoors* is a very respectable low to mid nineties!
<https://i.postimg.cc/BvnxJ0hd/speedtest24.jpg> T-mo RSRP -91 to -96 dBm

Meanwhile, my own neighbors on Verizon can't even get the free femtocell I personally had Verizon send them to work - due to crappy Verizon signal.
<https://i.postimg.cc/x17ChVzf/speedtest25.jpg> Verizon femtocell setup

Which mirrors my own observations. I have T-Mobile. Switching to 5G on
my 12 Pro Max makes no difference at all. Same bars, same speeds. Nothing is faster.

At home I can get a couple hundred megabits per second, but routinely, especially inside, I get only about half that - but admittedly I live in
the boonies where we don't even have cable yet on our power poles.
<https://i.postimg.cc/dtFnFCrX/speedtest26.jpg> Redneck Internet

LTE is definitely more important than 5G at this point. And for the
record, I don't give a damn who makes the modem chip in my phone.

You don't care _who_ makes the modem but you might care if one modem is
half the performance of another - where performance is how you rate them.

You also might care if the modem bought from Qualcomm as opposed to being sourced internally adds an appreciable percentage of the final sales price
of the iPhone in royalties and other fees Apple pays to Qualcomm.
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Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information,. which in this case, is proof of indoor 5G speeds, coverage and signal.

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In article <tamkk4$dd9$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

At home I can get a couple hundred megabits per second, but routinely, especially inside, I get only about half that

in other words, the maximum speed of the modem doesn't matter, as you
have been told.

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nospam wrote:

The more accurate claim by T-Mobile would be "when you have a T-Mobile
signal at all, you are more likely to have a 5G signal than an AT&T or
Verizon customer is likely to have a 5G signal when they have a signal
at all.

no, that would not be more accurate.

While I don't care whether T-Mobile or AT&T or Verizon is better at any
given time since I'm only on one carrier because I've had them all...

Steve and I both live in the Santa Cruz mountains...

Those same mountains where Steve has claimed many times that the T-Mobile coverage stinks in these mountains, and yet,
I'm in a far more rural area than he is (we can't put up more than one
house until we get to 80 acres as they don't want us to build here), and I
have good T-Mobile 5G coverage at home on the top of the mountain.
<https://i.postimg.cc/vTfn0HB6/speedtest21.jpg> Speed tests over time

While it's just one additional datapoint, a neighbor on Verizon asked me to help get her the Verizon femtocell for free (which I did), but when I was there, I ran a side-by-side test of Verizon & T-Mobile inside her house.
<https://i.postimg.cc/BvnxJ0hd/speedtest24.jpg> T-mo RSRP -91 to -96 dBm

In _that_ one location in the Santa Cruz mountains, Verizon sucked as she
was consistently 10 decibels worse than T-Mobile on her Android phone.

I am NOT saying it's that way everywhere in the Santa Cruz Mountains
(that's something bullshitters like Steve would say) as I expect you to be smarter than to accept an argument like that - but I am saying it happened.

And my credibility is stellar on facts, especially since I don't care one
bit whether it's T-Mobile or Verizon or AT&T that comes out on top, but I
will say Steve has been quoting FCC maps for years that didn't have _any_
5G coverage, and even now, we see the Verizon maps are "aspirational"...

"*Verizon has maps, but you should treat them as aspirational*,
as they aren't based on observed or measured coverage.
Verizon takes its tower locations, applies some math,
and paints the town red. And in some locations,
it might be counting towers that are installed and on,
but still blocked from public use for engineering
or procedural reasons."

*The Results Are In: We Tested the Latest 5G Tech on All Three Carriers*
<https://medium.com/pcmag-access/the-results-are-in-we-tested-the-latest-5g-tech-on-all-three-carriers-6d6f33ec19a8>

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In article <tamu4t$12mu$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

Steve and I both live in the Santa Cruz mountains...

you live in the mountains. he lives in the valley.

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