Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
On 2022-06-30 07:25, Thomas E. wrote:
Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16sM2 and his credibility is shot right of the bat as he tries to suggest
the computer he got isn't new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
So? Doing high end video work maxxed out the machine.
Did he compare it against anything else? No.
Oh, and he exaggerates and claims it happened in "not even a minute. It
was just a half minute" when it actually took a little longer than a minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
This is a video where a MacBook Air where all that is shown is that
computer CPUs will be throttle back for thermal reasons.
This is true of EVERY COMPUTER, Liarboy.
The very machine that I'm using today had a problem (after nearly 7
years of ownership, mind) where the thermal pasted between the CPU and
the heatsink had degraded to the point that the machine would turn
itself off after only a few minutes of operation.
After I opened the machine up and refreshed that thermal paste, it is
once again operating great.
Oh, and after going to all that trouble, what was gained?
1.16% faster single core performance
1.56% faster multi-core performance.
1.73% faster GPU performance
In short, there wasn't a thermal problem at all.
Seriously: what is your need to denigrate things so very much?
You went out looking for videos to slam the new Macs. Why?
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:27:17 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-06-30 07:25, Thomas E. wrote:
Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issueM2 and his credibility is shot right of the bat as he tries to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16s
suggest the computer he got isn't new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
So? Doing high end video work maxxed out the machine.
Did he compare it against anything else? No.
Oh, and he exaggerates and claims it happened in "not even a
minute. It was just a half minute" when it actually took a little
longer than a minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
This is a video where a MacBook Air where all that is shown is
that computer CPUs will be throttle back for thermal reasons.
This is true of EVERY COMPUTER, Liarboy.
The very machine that I'm using today had a problem (after nearly
7 years of ownership, mind) where the thermal pasted between the
CPU and the heatsink had degraded to the point that the machine
would turn itself off after only a few minutes of operation.
After I opened the machine up and refreshed that thermal paste, it
is once again operating great.
Oh, and after going to all that trouble, what was gained?
1.16% faster single core performance 1.56% faster multi-core
performance. 1.73% faster GPU performance
In short, there wasn't a thermal problem at all.
Seriously: what is your need to denigrate things so very much?
You went out looking for videos to slam the new Macs. Why?
I look at a few YouTube computer videos. A lot more aviation than
computers. One of these popped up and I looked at it. Then after I
looked at that one Google's algoritm presented a few more. You do
know how that works, don't you?
On 2022-07-02 07:23, Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:27:17 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-06-30 07:25, Thomas E. wrote:
Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issueM2 and his credibility is shot right of the bat as he tries to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16s
suggest the computer he got isn't new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
So? Doing high end video work maxxed out the machine.
Did he compare it against anything else? No.
Oh, and he exaggerates and claims it happened in "not even a
minute. It was just a half minute" when it actually took a little
longer than a minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
This is a video where a MacBook Air where all that is shown is
that computer CPUs will be throttle back for thermal reasons.
This is true of EVERY COMPUTER, Liarboy.
The very machine that I'm using today had a problem (after nearly
7 years of ownership, mind) where the thermal pasted between the
CPU and the heatsink had degraded to the point that the machine
would turn itself off after only a few minutes of operation.
After I opened the machine up and refreshed that thermal paste, it
is once again operating great.
Oh, and after going to all that trouble, what was gained?
1.16% faster single core performance 1.56% faster multi-core
performance. 1.73% faster GPU performance
In short, there wasn't a thermal problem at all.
Seriously: what is your need to denigrate things so very much?
You went out looking for videos to slam the new Macs. Why?
I look at a few YouTube computer videos. A lot more aviation than computers. One of these popped up and I looked at it. Then after IAnd you went around clicking on them.
looked at that one Google's algoritm presented a few more. You do
know how that works, don't you?
But I notice you ignore the legitimate rebuttals of the content of those videos.
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 1:41:46 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-02 07:23, Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:27:17 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:And you went around clicking on them.
On 2022-06-30 07:25, Thomas E. wrote:
Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issueM2 and his credibility is shot right of the bat as he tries to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16s
suggest the computer he got isn't new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
So? Doing high end video work maxxed out the machine.
Did he compare it against anything else? No.
Oh, and he exaggerates and claims it happened in "not even a
minute. It was just a half minute" when it actually took a little
longer than a minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
This is a video where a MacBook Air where all that is shown is
that computer CPUs will be throttle back for thermal reasons.
This is true of EVERY COMPUTER, Liarboy.
The very machine that I'm using today had a problem (after nearly
7 years of ownership, mind) where the thermal pasted between the
CPU and the heatsink had degraded to the point that the machine
would turn itself off after only a few minutes of operation.
After I opened the machine up and refreshed that thermal paste, it
is once again operating great.
Oh, and after going to all that trouble, what was gained?
1.16% faster single core performance 1.56% faster multi-core
performance. 1.73% faster GPU performance
In short, there wasn't a thermal problem at all.
Seriously: what is your need to denigrate things so very much?
You went out looking for videos to slam the new Macs. Why?
I look at a few YouTube computer videos. A lot more aviation than
computers. One of these popped up and I looked at it. Then after I
looked at that one Google's algoritm presented a few more. You do
know how that works, don't you?
But I notice you ignore the legitimate rebuttals of the content of those
videos.
So you went and looked too!
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:31:28 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-03 05:53, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 1:41:46 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Yes...
On 2022-07-02 07:23, Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:27:17 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:And you went around clicking on them.
On 2022-06-30 07:25, Thomas E. wrote:
Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issueM2 and his credibility is shot right of the bat as he tries to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16s
suggest the computer he got isn't new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
So? Doing high end video work maxxed out the machine.
Did he compare it against anything else? No.
Oh, and he exaggerates and claims it happened in "not even a
minute. It was just a half minute" when it actually took a little
longer than a minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
This is a video where a MacBook Air where all that is shown is
that computer CPUs will be throttle back for thermal reasons.
This is true of EVERY COMPUTER, Liarboy.
The very machine that I'm using today had a problem (after nearly
7 years of ownership, mind) where the thermal pasted between the
CPU and the heatsink had degraded to the point that the machine
would turn itself off after only a few minutes of operation.
After I opened the machine up and refreshed that thermal paste, it >>>>>> is once again operating great.
Oh, and after going to all that trouble, what was gained?
1.16% faster single core performance 1.56% faster multi-core
performance. 1.73% faster GPU performance
In short, there wasn't a thermal problem at all.
Seriously: what is your need to denigrate things so very much?
You went out looking for videos to slam the new Macs. Why?
I look at a few YouTube computer videos. A lot more aviation than
computers. One of these popped up and I looked at it. Then after I
looked at that one Google's algoritm presented a few more. You do
know how that works, don't you?
But I notice you ignore the legitimate rebuttals of the content of those >>>> videos.
So you went and looked too!
...because I knew you'd be lying about what was there.
And I notice you don't dispute that you've ignored the legitimate rebuttals.
Exactly where did I lie? Exact quotes from my posts, please!
On 2022-07-03 05:53, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 1:41:46 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-02 07:23, Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:27:17 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:And you went around clicking on them.
On 2022-06-30 07:25, Thomas E. wrote:
Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issueM2 and his credibility is shot right of the bat as he tries to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16s
suggest the computer he got isn't new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
So? Doing high end video work maxxed out the machine.
Did he compare it against anything else? No.
Oh, and he exaggerates and claims it happened in "not even a
minute. It was just a half minute" when it actually took a little
longer than a minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
This is a video where a MacBook Air where all that is shown is
that computer CPUs will be throttle back for thermal reasons.
This is true of EVERY COMPUTER, Liarboy.
The very machine that I'm using today had a problem (after nearly
7 years of ownership, mind) where the thermal pasted between the
CPU and the heatsink had degraded to the point that the machine
would turn itself off after only a few minutes of operation.
After I opened the machine up and refreshed that thermal paste, it
is once again operating great.
Oh, and after going to all that trouble, what was gained?
1.16% faster single core performance 1.56% faster multi-core
performance. 1.73% faster GPU performance
In short, there wasn't a thermal problem at all.
Seriously: what is your need to denigrate things so very much?
You went out looking for videos to slam the new Macs. Why?
I look at a few YouTube computer videos. A lot more aviation than
computers. One of these popped up and I looked at it. Then after I
looked at that one Google's algoritm presented a few more. You do
know how that works, don't you?
But I notice you ignore the legitimate rebuttals of the content of those >> videos.
So you went and looked too!Yes...
...because I knew you'd be lying about what was there.
And I notice you don't dispute that you've ignored the legitimate rebuttals.
On 2022-07-05 09:55, Thomas E. wrote:Liar. The very first video shows cpu throttling due to heat. Did you even look at it?
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:31:28 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-03 05:53, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 1:41:46 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Yes...
On 2022-07-02 07:23, Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:27:17 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:And you went around clicking on them.
On 2022-06-30 07:25, Thomas E. wrote:
Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issueM2 and his credibility is shot right of the bat as he tries to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16s
suggest the computer he got isn't new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
So? Doing high end video work maxxed out the machine.
Did he compare it against anything else? No.
Oh, and he exaggerates and claims it happened in "not even a
minute. It was just a half minute" when it actually took a little >>>>>> longer than a minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
This is a video where a MacBook Air where all that is shown is
that computer CPUs will be throttle back for thermal reasons.
This is true of EVERY COMPUTER, Liarboy.
The very machine that I'm using today had a problem (after nearly >>>>>> 7 years of ownership, mind) where the thermal pasted between the >>>>>> CPU and the heatsink had degraded to the point that the machine
would turn itself off after only a few minutes of operation.
After I opened the machine up and refreshed that thermal paste, it >>>>>> is once again operating great.
Oh, and after going to all that trouble, what was gained?
1.16% faster single core performance 1.56% faster multi-core
performance. 1.73% faster GPU performance
In short, there wasn't a thermal problem at all.
Seriously: what is your need to denigrate things so very much?
You went out looking for videos to slam the new Macs. Why?
I look at a few YouTube computer videos. A lot more aviation than
computers. One of these popped up and I looked at it. Then after I >>>>> looked at that one Google's algoritm presented a few more. You do
know how that works, don't you?
But I notice you ignore the legitimate rebuttals of the content of those >>>> videos.
So you went and looked too!
...because I knew you'd be lying about what was there.
And I notice you don't dispute that you've ignored the legitimate rebuttals.
Exactly where did I lie? Exact quotes from my posts, please!'Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issue'
Literally none of your videos show that any M1 Mac had an actual issue
with heat.
On 2022-07-05 09:55, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:31:28 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-03 05:53, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 1:41:46 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Yes...
On 2022-07-02 07:23, Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:27:17 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:And you went around clicking on them.
On 2022-06-30 07:25, Thomas E. wrote:
Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issueM2 and his credibility is shot right of the bat as he tries to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16s
suggest the computer he got isn't new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
So? Doing high end video work maxxed out the machine.
Did he compare it against anything else? No.
Oh, and he exaggerates and claims it happened in "not even a
minute. It was just a half minute" when it actually took a little >>>>>> longer than a minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
This is a video where a MacBook Air where all that is shown is
that computer CPUs will be throttle back for thermal reasons.
This is true of EVERY COMPUTER, Liarboy.
The very machine that I'm using today had a problem (after nearly >>>>>> 7 years of ownership, mind) where the thermal pasted between the >>>>>> CPU and the heatsink had degraded to the point that the machine
would turn itself off after only a few minutes of operation.
After I opened the machine up and refreshed that thermal paste, it >>>>>> is once again operating great.
Oh, and after going to all that trouble, what was gained?
1.16% faster single core performance 1.56% faster multi-core
performance. 1.73% faster GPU performance
In short, there wasn't a thermal problem at all.
Seriously: what is your need to denigrate things so very much?
You went out looking for videos to slam the new Macs. Why?
I look at a few YouTube computer videos. A lot more aviation than
computers. One of these popped up and I looked at it. Then after I >>>>> looked at that one Google's algoritm presented a few more. You do
know how that works, don't you?
But I notice you ignore the legitimate rebuttals of the content of those >>>> videos.
So you went and looked too!
...because I knew you'd be lying about what was there.
And I notice you don't dispute that you've ignored the legitimate rebuttals.
Exactly where did I lie? Exact quotes from my posts, please!'Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issue'
Literally none of your videos show that any M1 Mac had an actual issue
with heat.
On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 12:58:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-05 09:55, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:31:28 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:'Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issue'
On 2022-07-03 05:53, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 1:41:46 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Yes...
On 2022-07-02 07:23, Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:27:17 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:And you went around clicking on them.
On 2022-06-30 07:25, Thomas E. wrote:
Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issueM2 and his credibility is shot right of the bat as he tries to >>>>>>>> suggest the computer he got isn't new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
So? Doing high end video work maxxed out the machine.
Did he compare it against anything else? No.
Oh, and he exaggerates and claims it happened in "not even a
minute. It was just a half minute" when it actually took a little >>>>>>>> longer than a minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
This is a video where a MacBook Air where all that is shown is >>>>>>>> that computer CPUs will be throttle back for thermal reasons.
This is true of EVERY COMPUTER, Liarboy.
The very machine that I'm using today had a problem (after nearly >>>>>>>> 7 years of ownership, mind) where the thermal pasted between the >>>>>>>> CPU and the heatsink had degraded to the point that the machine >>>>>>>> would turn itself off after only a few minutes of operation.
After I opened the machine up and refreshed that thermal paste, it >>>>>>>> is once again operating great.
Oh, and after going to all that trouble, what was gained?
1.16% faster single core performance 1.56% faster multi-core
performance. 1.73% faster GPU performance
In short, there wasn't a thermal problem at all.
Seriously: what is your need to denigrate things so very much? >>>>>>>>
You went out looking for videos to slam the new Macs. Why?
I look at a few YouTube computer videos. A lot more aviation than >>>>>>> computers. One of these popped up and I looked at it. Then after I >>>>>>> looked at that one Google's algoritm presented a few more. You do >>>>>>> know how that works, don't you?
But I notice you ignore the legitimate rebuttals of the content of those >>>>>> videos.
So you went and looked too!
...because I knew you'd be lying about what was there.
And I notice you don't dispute that you've ignored the legitimate rebuttals.
Exactly where did I lie? Exact quotes from my posts, please!
Literally none of your videos show that any M1 Mac had an actual issue
with heat.
Here is a link to a M1 heat issue: https://www.sysorchestra.com/reduce-thermal-throttling-on-your-apple-m1-macbook-air-to-increase-performance/
On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 12:58:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-05 09:55, Thomas E. wrote:Liar. The very first video shows cpu throttling due to heat. Did you even look at it?
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:31:28 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:'Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issue'
On 2022-07-03 05:53, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 1:41:46 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Yes...
On 2022-07-02 07:23, Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:27:17 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:And you went around clicking on them.
On 2022-06-30 07:25, Thomas E. wrote:
Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issueM2 and his credibility is shot right of the bat as he tries to >>>>>>>> suggest the computer he got isn't new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
So? Doing high end video work maxxed out the machine.
Did he compare it against anything else? No.
Oh, and he exaggerates and claims it happened in "not even a
minute. It was just a half minute" when it actually took a little >>>>>>>> longer than a minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
This is a video where a MacBook Air where all that is shown is >>>>>>>> that computer CPUs will be throttle back for thermal reasons.
This is true of EVERY COMPUTER, Liarboy.
The very machine that I'm using today had a problem (after nearly >>>>>>>> 7 years of ownership, mind) where the thermal pasted between the >>>>>>>> CPU and the heatsink had degraded to the point that the machine >>>>>>>> would turn itself off after only a few minutes of operation.
After I opened the machine up and refreshed that thermal paste, it >>>>>>>> is once again operating great.
Oh, and after going to all that trouble, what was gained?
1.16% faster single core performance 1.56% faster multi-core
performance. 1.73% faster GPU performance
In short, there wasn't a thermal problem at all.
Seriously: what is your need to denigrate things so very much? >>>>>>>>
You went out looking for videos to slam the new Macs. Why?
I look at a few YouTube computer videos. A lot more aviation than >>>>>>> computers. One of these popped up and I looked at it. Then after I >>>>>>> looked at that one Google's algoritm presented a few more. You do >>>>>>> know how that works, don't you?
But I notice you ignore the legitimate rebuttals of the content of those >>>>>> videos.
So you went and looked too!
...because I knew you'd be lying about what was there.
And I notice you don't dispute that you've ignored the legitimate rebuttals.
Exactly where did I lie? Exact quotes from my posts, please!
Literally none of your videos show that any M1 Mac had an actual issue
with heat.
On 2022-07-06 09:20, Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 12:58:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-05 09:55, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:31:28 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:'Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issue'
On 2022-07-03 05:53, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 1:41:46 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:Yes...
On 2022-07-02 07:23, Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:27:17 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2022-06-30 07:25, Thomas E. wrote:And you went around clicking on them.
Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issueM2 and his credibility is shot right of the bat as he tries to >>>>>>>> suggest the computer he got isn't new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
So? Doing high end video work maxxed out the machine.
Did he compare it against anything else? No.
Oh, and he exaggerates and claims it happened in "not even a >>>>>>>> minute. It was just a half minute" when it actually took a little >>>>>>>> longer than a minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
This is a video where a MacBook Air where all that is shown is >>>>>>>> that computer CPUs will be throttle back for thermal reasons. >>>>>>>>
This is true of EVERY COMPUTER, Liarboy.
The very machine that I'm using today had a problem (after nearly >>>>>>>> 7 years of ownership, mind) where the thermal pasted between the >>>>>>>> CPU and the heatsink had degraded to the point that the machine >>>>>>>> would turn itself off after only a few minutes of operation. >>>>>>>>
After I opened the machine up and refreshed that thermal paste, it >>>>>>>> is once again operating great.
Oh, and after going to all that trouble, what was gained?
1.16% faster single core performance 1.56% faster multi-core >>>>>>>> performance. 1.73% faster GPU performance
In short, there wasn't a thermal problem at all.
Seriously: what is your need to denigrate things so very much? >>>>>>>>
You went out looking for videos to slam the new Macs. Why?
I look at a few YouTube computer videos. A lot more aviation than >>>>>>> computers. One of these popped up and I looked at it. Then after I >>>>>>> looked at that one Google's algoritm presented a few more. You do >>>>>>> know how that works, don't you?
But I notice you ignore the legitimate rebuttals of the content of those
videos.
So you went and looked too!
...because I knew you'd be lying about what was there.
And I notice you don't dispute that you've ignored the legitimate rebuttals.
Exactly where did I lie? Exact quotes from my posts, please!
Literally none of your videos show that any M1 Mac had an actual issue
with heat.
Here is a link to a M1 heat issue: https://www.sysorchestra.com/reduce-thermal-throttling-on-your-apple-m1-macbook-air-to-increase-performance/Dude.
Pretty much EVERY laptop can be made to use the CPUs so hard that it
will throttle.
So it's not an M1 issue. It's a portable computer with only so much room
for cooling issue.
The MacBook Air is designed to be as small and light and quiet as
possible. It's not the computer to choose if you're planning to do
high-end video rendering.
"When I thought about it if I should buy an Air or the new M1 Macbook
Pro, I was quite sure that the performance must be roughly the same.
Both use the M1. The Air has no fan, so only persistent load performance would suffer. But this is not a big deal, since the M1 in the Air is
still a beast."
So right out of the gate, your source is an IDIOT who doesn't understand that a computer designed to run without a fan is going to reach its
thermal limit sooner than one that has a fan.
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:02:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:M2 and his credibility is shot right of the bat as he tries to
On 2022-07-06 09:20, Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 12:58:25 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-05 09:55, Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:31:28 AM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-03 05:53, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 1:41:46 PM UTC-4, Alan
wrote:
On 2022-07-02 07:23, Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:27:17 PM UTC-4, Alan
wrote:
On 2022-06-30 07:25, Thomas E. wrote:
Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIknUcCjiQ&t=16s
Dude.'Hmmm, seems that some M1 Macs have a heat issue'Yes...And you went around clicking on them.suggest the computer he got isn't new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dokf-e1Ok
So? Doing high end video work maxxed out the
machine.
Did he compare it against anything else? No.
Oh, and he exaggerates and claims it happened in
"not even a minute. It was just a half minute" when
it actually took a little longer than a minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MOjrLFpwQ
This is a video where a MacBook Air where all that
is shown is that computer CPUs will be throttle
back for thermal reasons.
This is true of EVERY COMPUTER, Liarboy.
The very machine that I'm using today had a problem
(after nearly 7 years of ownership, mind) where the
thermal pasted between the CPU and the heatsink had
degraded to the point that the machine would turn
itself off after only a few minutes of operation.
After I opened the machine up and refreshed that
thermal paste, it is once again operating great.
Oh, and after going to all that trouble, what was
gained?
1.16% faster single core performance 1.56% faster
multi-core performance. 1.73% faster GPU
performance
In short, there wasn't a thermal problem at all.
Seriously: what is your need to denigrate things so
very much?
You went out looking for videos to slam the new
Macs. Why?
I look at a few YouTube computer videos. A lot more
aviation than computers. One of these popped up and I
looked at it. Then after I looked at that one
Google's algoritm presented a few more. You do know
how that works, don't you?
But I notice you ignore the legitimate rebuttals of the
content of those videos.
So you went and looked too!
...because I knew you'd be lying about what was there.
And I notice you don't dispute that you've ignored the
legitimate rebuttals.
Exactly where did I lie? Exact quotes from my posts, please!
Literally none of your videos show that any M1 Mac had an
actual issue with heat.
Here is a link to a M1 heat issue:
https://www.sysorchestra.com/reduce-thermal-throttling-on-your-apple-m1-macbook-air-to-increase-performance/
Pretty much EVERY laptop can be made to use the CPUs so hard that
it will throttle.
So it's not an M1 issue. It's a portable computer with only so much
room for cooling issue.
The MacBook Air is designed to be as small and light and quiet as
possible. It's not the computer to choose if you're planning to do
high-end video rendering.
"When I thought about it if I should buy an Air or the new M1
Macbook Pro, I was quite sure that the performance must be roughly
the same. Both use the M1. The Air has no fan, so only persistent
load performance would suffer. But this is not a big deal, since
the M1 in the Air is still a beast."
So right out of the gate, your source is an IDIOT who doesn't
understand that a computer designed to run without a fan is going
to reach its thermal limit sooner than one that has a fan.
Dude, my 5 year old HP does not have a thermal issue. Not all laptops throttle down from thermal buildup. You just said so yourself above.
The fact that Apple CHOSE not to put in a fan and that design results
in so much heat it throttles makes it an issue with Apple's stupid
form over function design decisions.
Dude, the 16" M2 with fans is also having issues. Just Google for it,
and this comes up: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2022/07/02/apple-macbook-pro-m2-macos-poor-performance-throttled-overheating/?sh=f6daef2725f5
"Poor reviews for the M2 MacBook Pro have been backed up this week
by teardowns on the laptops, slower storage options, and both
overheating and throttling issues when performance is demanded. This
is why you should ignore Apple's M2 MacBook Pro."
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:02:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-06 09:20, Thomas E. wrote:
...
So right out of the gate, your source is an IDIOT who doesn't understand that a computer designed to run without a fan is going to reach its
thermal limit sooner than one that has a fan.
Dude, my 5 year old HP does not have a thermal issue.
Not all laptops throttle down from thermal buildup.
You just said so yourself above. The fact that Apple CHOSE not to put in a fan
and that design results in so much heat it throttles makes it an issue with Apple's
stupid form over function design decisions.
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 3:50:14 PM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:02:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-06 09:20, Thomas E. wrote:
...
So right out of the gate, your source is an IDIOT who doesn't understand that a computer designed to run without a fan is going to reach its thermal limit sooner than one that has a fan.
Dude, my 5 year old HP does not have a thermal issue.How loudly do its cooling fans scream? And suck down battery?
Not all laptops throttle down from thermal buildup.All of Intel CPUs throttle down from thermal buildup, and have been designed this way for several years. The alternative is that they melt down and fail.
You just said so yourself above. The fact that Apple CHOSE not to put in a fanGosh, I read that quite differently: I saw it as recognizing that the trade-off of the Air
and that design results in so much heat it throttles makes it an issue with Apple's
stupid form over function design decisions.
being silent and small/light was that it didn't push air through its body, such that CPU
thermal limits are hit sooner under heavier load. That observation doesn't make it
useless for all activities - it just is integral to the trade-off for which product to choose
for one's workflow tasks vs other considerations. To use an analogy, you're trying to
criticize a Mini Cooper for not having the cargo capacity of a 2500 Pickup, rather than
recognizing that it is comparatively much easier to park and gets great gas mileage.
-hh
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:28:57 AM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 3:50:14 PM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:02:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-07-06 09:20, Thomas E. wrote:
...
So right out of the gate, your source is an IDIOT who doesn't understand
that a computer designed to run without a fan is going to reach its thermal limit sooner than one that has a fan.
Dude, my 5 year old HP does not have a thermal issue.
How loudly do its cooling fans scream? And suck down battery?
Not all laptops throttle down from thermal buildup.
All of Intel CPUs throttle down from thermal buildup, and have been designed
this way for several years. The alternative is that they melt down and fail.
You just said so yourself above. The fact that Apple CHOSE not to put in a fan
and that design results in so much heat it throttles makes it an issue with Apple's
stupid form over function design decisions.
Gosh, I read that quite differently: I saw it as recognizing that the trade-off of the Air
being silent and small/light was that it didn't push air through its body, such that CPU
thermal limits are hit sooner under heavier load. That observation doesn't make it
useless for all activities - it just is integral to the trade-off for which product to choose
for one's workflow tasks vs other considerations. To use an analogy, you're trying to
criticize a Mini Cooper for not having the cargo capacity of a 2500 Pickup, rather than
recognizing that it is comparatively much easier to park and gets great gas mileage.
My HP fans do run. So do my Dell XPS 15 with the I9 Core. Glad to know that it's not a real issue, even in Macs.
On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:28:57 AM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 3:50:14 PM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 2:02:47 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:How loudly do its cooling fans scream? And suck down battery?
On 2022-07-06 09:20, Thomas E. wrote:
...
So right out of the gate, your source is an IDIOT who doesn't understand >>>> that a computer designed to run without a fan is going to reach its
thermal limit sooner than one that has a fan.
Dude, my 5 year old HP does not have a thermal issue.
Not all laptops throttle down from thermal buildup.All of Intel CPUs throttle down from thermal buildup, and have been designed >> this way for several years. The alternative is that they melt down and fail. >>> You just said so yourself above. The fact that Apple CHOSE not to put in a fan
and that design results in so much heat it throttles makes it an issue with Apple'sGosh, I read that quite differently: I saw it as recognizing that the trade-off of the Air
stupid form over function design decisions.
being silent and small/light was that it didn't push air through its body, such that CPU
thermal limits are hit sooner under heavier load. That observation doesn't make it
useless for all activities - it just is integral to the trade-off for which product to choose
for one's workflow tasks vs other considerations. To use an analogy, you're trying to
criticize a Mini Cooper for not having the cargo capacity of a 2500 Pickup, rather than
recognizing that it is comparatively much easier to park and gets great gas mileage.
-hh
My HP fans do run. So do my Dell XPS 15 with the I9 Core. Glad to know that it's not a real issue, even in Macs.
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