• Re: Torrent Apps on App Store?

    From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Apr 29 01:02:50 2022
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    nospam wrote:

    Why would Apple not allow torrent apps?

    one major reason is because torrenting on a battery-powered device is incredibly stupid. another is that there is no demand for it, largely
    because it's stupid.

    Just as Russia comes up with myriad excuses that are childish in nature but which _always_ try to deflect their crippling weaknesses, you do the same.

    Why can't you just face up to the fact that iOS is the _only_ one of the
    five common consumer operating systems which has no torrenting apps?

    The reality is that there are
    lots of torrents that are not illegal or unsafe and torrents are a good
    way to download large files. Apple doesn't prevent torrent apps on MacOS.

    the reality is that almost everything that's torrented is pirated and
    what's left is of little to no use on an ipad (e.g., linux distros).

    As with Russia claiming the Ukrain needs to be denazified, you iKooks will fabricate the most inane kindergarten excuses to absolve Apple decisions.

    Why can't you just face up to the fact that iOS is the _only_ one of the
    five common consumer operating systems which has no torrenting apps?

    there are much better ways to download the mythical 'large files' you
    claim to want to download. for example, there this site called netflix
    for movies. perhaps you've heard of it.

    Instead of always fabricating different kindergarten responses to absolve
    Apple of the fact that the iOS platform is crippled, why can't you simply accept the fact that it's _only iOS_ which is so crippled that it doesn't
    even allow common torrenting.

    Even the macOS has torrenting, so _all_ your excuses are simply bullshit.

    this is nothing more than yet another fabricated setup to both troll
    and justify yet another bogus entry in your bogus list of bullshit 'features', nearly all of which have been debunked many times over, all
    the while you ignore the numerous things that ios can do that can't be
    done on other platforms because that doesn't fit your narrative and
    desire to troll.

    And yet he's tlling the truth and you're telling the lies, nospam.

    Why do you lie about the lack of iOS functionality, nospam?
    I know why.

    But I suspect you don't know why you are _desperate_ to fabricate imaginary functionality for iOS that simply does not exist.

    Why can't you just face up to the fact that iOS is the _only_ one of the
    five common consumer operating systems which has no torrenting apps?
    --
    The only people who believe every word Apple says, are these low-IQ iKooks.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to sms on Fri Apr 29 00:23:45 2022
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    sms wrote:

    I wanted to download a torrent onto my iPad and was surprised to not
    find any torrent downloading apps available for iPhone or iPad on the
    Apple App store. I've used torrents on my Android, Windows, and Linux
    devices for many years, and there are also torrent clients for MacOS.

    It appears that I have three choices: 1) Jailbreak and use an app like iTorrent from Cydia <https://github.com/XITRIX/iTorrent>, 2) use a cloud client like zbigz.com, or download the torrent on a computer or Android device then transfer it to the iPad. What a hassle! I don't want to jailbreak, the cloud clients have a lot of restrictions for the free
    version (and the premium version has a high monthly cost), and it's
    rather a pain to be transferring large files onto the iPad after
    downloading them onto a different platform.

    Why would Apple not allow torrent apps? The reality is that there are
    lots of torrents that are not illegal or unsafe and torrents are a good
    way to download large files. Apple doesn't prevent torrent apps on MacOS.

    This restriction is really annoying.

    FACT:
    There are a _lot_ of app functionalities which are impossible on iOS that
    are on _every_ other of the five common consumer operating systems...

    ASSESSMENT OF THAT FACT:
    The question we've asked is why does Apple cripple iOS but not macOS?
    I openly admit that I don't know the answer to that key question.

    I just know that only iOS is crippled to this huge degree. Not macOS.
    *Hence the questino changes to why does Apple only cripple iOS?*

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Lewis on Fri Apr 29 03:20:40 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Lewis wrote:

    You can compile and build a torrent client and put it on your own
    devices, but I assume that is "too hard" for you too.

    The iKooks are always making excuses for the lack of iOS functionality.

    It's interesting that the iKooks know the only way to get even the most
    basic functionality on iOS is to write the code & compile it yourself.

    The iKooks have already started running down their list of excuses for why
    iOS is always the only common consumer operating system that is crippled.

    First nospam fabricated the functionality exists, and then Lewis just
    claimed that you have to compile it yourself, and even Jolly Roger came up
    with the excuse that nobody wants to have basic capability on iOS anyway.

    And yet... the functionality _abounds_ on all other platforms - except iOS.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/tTqHHYS7/torrent01.jpg> All but iOS have this
    --
    The iKooks are always making excuses for the lack of iOS functionality.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to sms on Fri Apr 29 23:28:51 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    sms wrote:

    Of all the lame excuses, complaining that because a device can be
    operated from its internal battery that torrents should not be allowed,
    is one of the lamest.

    The problem here is _bigger_ than the lack of torrent apps on iOS.

    The fact is that _many_ app functionalities are _impossible_ on iOS.
    And yet, they're on _all_ the other four common consumer operating systems.

    The _adult_ question to ponder is what the reason is for that obvious fact! Bear in mind the answer is _not_ that the hardware can't do it.

    The answer is something else.
    It's not hardware though.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Apr 29 23:30:52 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    nospam wrote:

    Of all the lame excuses, complaining that because a device can be
    operated from its internal battery that torrents should not be allowed,
    is one of the lamest.

    there's nothing lame about it. the simple fact is that torrenting on
    mobile devices is stupid and because of that, it's not something in
    high demand.

    If we skip torrenting and move to something else, what's your _new_ excuse
    for why iOS is crippled such that _many_ app functionalities are impossible
    and yet, they're on _all_ the other four common consumer operating systems?

    Why, for example, are graphical wifi signal strength debuggers _not_ on
    iOS, and yet, every other common consumer platform has them in quantity?

    Are you now going to claim that debugging wifi on mobile devices is stupid?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Fri Apr 29 15:27:54 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2022-04-29 3:25 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
    nospam wrote:

    The lack of torrent apps is one of the strangest app prohibitions.

    no it isn't.

    Torrent apps are just one of many app functionalities impossible on iOS.

    Really?

    What makes it "impossible", precisely?


    What about the lack of iOS graphical wifi signal strength debuggers nospam?

    *Why is it _only_ iOS that lacks _many_ fundamental app capabilities?*

    What's _different_ about iOS?

    You're the one claiming it's different.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to sms on Fri Apr 29 23:35:25 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    sms wrote:

    I added this to the document as #164a on page 70.
    <https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features>.

    This web site <https://igeeksradar.com/download-torrents-ios-without-jailbreak/>
    details some workarounds for the iPhone and iPad. The article is nearly
    two years old so some of the details may have changed.

    "As compared to iOS, Android users are lucky as they have got uTorrent
    and Bit Torrent clients available in Play Store that allow Android users
    to download torrents on their smartphones without having to root their devices. However, by the end of this post, even iOS users will be able
    to download torrents directly on their iPhone without jailbreak using
    any one of the various methods listed below."

    FACT:
    a. There are zillions of torrent apps on the official Android app store.
    b. There are zero on the official iOS app store.

    FACT:
    c. Same can be said about _many_ app functionalities.

    OBSERVATION:
    d. The iKooks claim otherwise - but -
    e. They never come up with even a _single_ app that fits their claims.

    In other words, the fact remains that there are _many_ app functionalities
    that are easily available to non-rooted users of all of the common consumer platforms... except iOS.

    The question is why.
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Fri Apr 29 15:32:43 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2022-04-29 3:28 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
    sms wrote:

    Of all the lame excuses, complaining that because a device can be
    operated from its internal battery that torrents should not be
    allowed, is one of the lamest.

    The problem here is _bigger_ than the lack of torrent apps on iOS.

    The fact is that _many_ app functionalities are _impossible_ on iOS.

    Really?

    Such as?

    Are they impossible...

    ...or is it just that no one has wanted to provide them?

    And yet, they're on _all_ the other four common consumer operating systems.

    The _adult_ question to ponder is what the reason is for that obvious fact! Bear in mind the answer is _not_ that the hardware can't do it.

    The answer is something else. It's not hardware though.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Fri Apr 29 15:37:37 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2022-04-29 3:30 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
    nospam wrote:

    Of all the lame excuses, complaining that because a device can be
    operated from its internal battery that torrents should not be
    allowed, is one of the lamest.

    there's nothing lame about it. the simple fact is that torrenting on
    mobile devices is stupid and because of that, it's not something in
    high demand.

    If we skip torrenting and move to something else, what's your _new_ excuse for why iOS is crippled such that _many_ app functionalities are impossible and yet, they're on _all_ the other four common consumer operating systems?

    Where's your proof that these things are impossible.


    Why, for example, are graphical wifi signal strength debuggers _not_ on
    iOS, and yet, every other common consumer platform has them in quantity?

    I don't know.

    But you don't either.


    Are you now going to claim that debugging wifi on mobile devices is stupid?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to spam@nospam.com on Fri Apr 29 19:02:36 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    In article <t4houa$6q8$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
    <spam@nospam.com> wrote:

    Why, for example, are graphical wifi signal strength debuggers _not_ on
    iOS,

    because there's insufficient demand to bother.

    writing it is fairly straightforward, which has been explained to you
    already. once again, there are numerous graphing frameworks that could
    be used, just feed it the appropriate data source.




    Are you now going to claim that debugging wifi on mobile devices is stupid?

    it is when wifi base stations can do it automatically, and do a much
    better job than humans can.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Apr 29 19:02:35 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    In article <t4hp2b$nk9$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:


    The fact is that _many_ app functionalities are _impossible_ on iOS.

    Really?

    Such as?

    Are they impossible...

    ...or is it just that no one has wanted to provide them?

    or that he lacks the intelligence to figure out how? after all, it does
    take a few seconds with a search engine.

    or maybe it's because he ignores detailed instructions how to do what
    he claims to want to do so that he can rant.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Apr 29 23:25:47 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    nospam wrote:

    The lack of torrent apps is one of the strangest app prohibitions.

    no it isn't.

    Torrent apps are just one of many app functionalities impossible on iOS.

    What about the lack of iOS graphical wifi signal strength debuggers nospam?

    *Why is it _only_ iOS that lacks _many_ fundamental app capabilities?*

    What's _different_ about iOS?

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Sat Apr 30 01:35:55 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    nospam wrote:

    or that he lacks the intelligence to figure out how? after all, it does
    take a few seconds with a search engine.

    or maybe it's because he ignores detailed instructions how to do what
    he claims to want to do so that he can rant.


    The facts are clear.
    The fact the apps do not exist in the Apple app store is all I need to say.

    If you claim the apps actually exist, all you need to do is provide a URI.
    Heh heh heh... and _that_ never happens with you iKooks.

    The fact is obvious - the only thing NOT obvious is why.
    *Why is it only iOS lacks app functionality in all other operating systems?*

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Sat Apr 30 01:29:51 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    nospam wrote:

    Why, for example, are graphical wifi signal strength debuggers _not_ on
    iOS,

    because there's insufficient demand to bother.

    You have such a low IQ that you don't realize you make up kindergarten solutions to all the issues that come up that you _hate_ about iOS.

    If demand were the reason, they wouldn't abound on _all_ other platforms. Except iOS.

    Are you saying there's no demand for graphical cellular signal strength debuggers on a smartphone (which, after all, is dependent on that signal)?

    'Cuz that's _another_ of many app functionalities impossible on iOS.

    writing it is fairly straightforward, which has been explained to you already. once again, there are numerous graphing frameworks that could
    be used, just feed it the appropriate data source.

    To claim that the only way you'll get even the most basic of app
    funcdtionality out of iOS is to write it yourself, is just ridiculous.

    Are you now going to claim that debugging wifi on mobile devices is stupid?

    it is when wifi base stations can do it automatically, and do a much
    better job than humans can.

    Do you realize you have to fabricate a _different_ excuse for each and
    every one of the many app functionalities that aren't available on iOS?

    The fact is there is only _one_ reason for _all_ these iOS deficiencies.
    And it's NOT the hardware.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Tue May 3 18:33:02 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    nospam wrote:

    Besides benchmarks aren't only dependent on processor clock speed and the
    benchmarks can be fibbed and they don't usually even reflect actual use.

    samsung has been caught fibbing multiple times.

    If a CPU has to be throttled in about a year, then the benchmark on day 1
    is meaningless in terms of what the average user will get in about a year.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Tue May 3 11:12:22 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2022-05-03 10:33 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
    nospam wrote:

    Besides benchmarks aren't only dependent on processor clock speed and
    the
    benchmarks can be fibbed and they don't usually even reflect actual use.

    samsung has been caught fibbing multiple times.

    If a CPU has to be throttled in about a year, then the benchmark on day 1
    is meaningless in terms of what the average user will get in about a year.

    The key word there is "if".

    The CPU does NOT have to be throttle in a year.

    The CPU was only throttled when the battery was low and not throttling
    it would have led to the device shutting down.

    Keep the battery level high and iOS never throttled the CPU.

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue May 3 20:30:54 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 03/05/2022 20:12, Alan wrote:

    Keep the battery level high and iOS never throttled the CPU.

    Keep only the iOS version level low and that iOS never throttles the CPU.

    Regards,
    Martin Brown

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Martin Brown on Tue May 3 11:35:57 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2022-05-03 11:30 a.m., Martin Brown wrote:
    On 03/05/2022 20:12, Alan wrote:

    Keep the battery level high and iOS never throttled the CPU.

    Keep only the iOS version level low and that iOS never throttles the CPU.

    Regards,
    Martin Brown

    And then the phone suddenly and unexpectedly dies...

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue May 3 14:53:56 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    In article <t4rra6$t7t$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:


    If a CPU has to be throttled in about a year, then the benchmark on day 1 is meaningless in terms of what the average user will get in about a year.

    The key word there is "if".

    The CPU does NOT have to be throttle in a year.

    The CPU was only throttled when the battery was low and not throttling
    it would have led to the device shutting down.

    only when the battery had aged (higher internal resistance, a concept
    that 'arlen' does not understand) to where it can't source sufficient
    current for peak demands.

    also, it only clipped those peak demands, which is very different than
    an overall throttling, as he tries to claim.

    Keep the battery level high and iOS never throttled the CPU.

    yep.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Tue May 3 21:02:48 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    nospam wrote:

    Keep the battery level high and iOS never throttled the CPU.

    Keep only the iOS version level low and that iOS never throttles the CPU. >>>

    And then the phone suddenly and unexpectedly dies...

    and then the lawsuits happen, as it did with many android phones, which
    had the *same* *battery* *issue* and sudden shutdowns, because nobody,
    not even apple, can escape the laws of physics.

    Tell us nospam, which operating system was _purposefully_ throttled with
    the next OS release such that a _criminal_ conviction resulted, nospam.

    Other than iOS of course.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Tue May 3 13:04:28 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2022-05-03 1:02 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
    nospam wrote:

    Keep the battery level high and iOS never throttled the CPU.

    Keep only the iOS version level low and that iOS never throttles the
    CPU.


    And then the phone suddenly and unexpectedly dies...

    and then the lawsuits happen, as it did with many android phones, which
    had the *same* *battery* *issue* and sudden shutdowns, because nobody,
    not even apple, can escape the laws of physics.

    Tell us nospam, which operating system was _purposefully_ throttled with
    the next OS release such that a _criminal_ conviction resulted, nospam.

    Other than iOS of course.

    There has been no criminal conviction, Arlen.

    That remains your masturbatory fantasy.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Martin Brown on Tue May 3 20:05:59 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2022-05-03, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
    On 03/05/2022 20:12, Alan wrote:

    Keep the battery level high and iOS never throttled the CPU.

    Keep only the iOS version level low and that iOS never throttles the CPU.

    You're dumb. The alternative to throttling is allowing the device to spontaneously shut down due to the battery being unable to provide
    required voltage.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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