More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.delete the phone from the system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system disconnects.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I had to
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.experience strongly indicates it was on the vehicle side.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere, and the Transit
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.delete the phone from the system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system disconnects.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I had to
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.experience strongly indicates it was on the vehicle side.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere, and the Transit
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almost
new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay.
CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after
two days the connection was lost. I had to delete the phone from the
system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system disconnects.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it.
On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between my
iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the
Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere, and the Transit experience strongly indicates
it was on the vehicle side.
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:41:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.
Oh, so you went back to Android? /s
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almost
new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay.
CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after
two days the connection was lost. I had to delete the phone from the
system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless.
Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system
disconnects.
I've had occasional glitches where the easiest solution is to delete &
set back up as new ... maybe once every ~2 years. Think once or
twice it was shortly after a dealership service, so there probably was
a silent entertainment system upgrade going on.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid
edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
That was quick. Guessing you got a decent trade-in price for the 2019 Insight due to the used car supply/demand pinch...although IIRC that
would have also been knocked down some by that traffic circle fender-bender.
We've been kind of debating if to similarly do a quick vehicle flip because of said market conditions, as our newest is coming up on 2 years old and still has less than 3K miles on it thanks to CoVid-centric vast reductions in driving, so presumably it would garner a good price...but probably not good enough considering its very low mileage.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it.
On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between my
iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the
Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB
connection somewhere, and the Transit experience strongly indicates
it was on the vehicle side.
Yup, which is the same conclusion that the rest of us came to months ago.
-hh
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:41:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.Oh, so you went back to Android? /s
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almostI've had occasional glitches where the easiest solution is to delete &
new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after
two days the connection was lost. I had to delete the phone from the
system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system disconnects.
set back up as new ... maybe once every ~2 years. Think once or
twice it was shortly after a dealership service, so there probably was
a silent entertainment system upgrade going on.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.That was quick. Guessing you got a decent trade-in price for the 2019
Insight due to the used car supply/demand pinch...although IIRC that
would have also been knocked down some by that traffic circle fender-bender.
We've been kind of debating if to similarly do a quick vehicle flip because of said market conditions, as our newest is coming up on 2 years old and still has less than 3K miles on it thanks to CoVid-centric vast reductions in driving, so presumably it would garner a good price...but probably not good enough considering its very low mileage.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it.
On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between myYup, which is the same conclusion that the rest of us came to months ago.
iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere, and the Transit experience strongly indicates
it was on the vehicle side.
-hh
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:54:44 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:41:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.Oh, so you went back to Android? /s
I've had occasional glitches where the easiest solution is to delete &
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almost
new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay.
CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after
two days the connection was lost. I had to delete the phone from the
system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless.
Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system
disconnects.
set back up as new ... maybe once every ~2 years. Think once or
twice it was shortly after a dealership service, so there probably was
a silent entertainment system upgrade going on.
That was quick. Guessing you got a decent trade-in price for the 2019
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid
edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
Insight due to the used car supply/demand pinch...although IIRC that
would have also been knocked down some by that traffic circle fender-bender. >>
We've been kind of debating if to similarly do a quick vehicle flip because >> of said market conditions, as our newest is coming up on 2 years old and
still has less than 3K miles on it thanks to CoVid-centric vast reductions in
driving, so presumably it would garner a good price...but probably not good >> enough considering its very low mileage.
Yup, which is the same conclusion that the rest of us came to months ago.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it. >>> On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between my
iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the
Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB
connection somewhere, and the Transit experience strongly indicates
it was on the vehicle side.
-hh
The clam engine had a false positive hitGo away, Snit
On 2022-01-05 5:41 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:to delete the phone from the system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system disconnects.
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I had
experience strongly indicates it was on the vehicle side.Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere, and the Transit
The thing you repeatedly told us wasn't true when you insisted that it
was Apple's CarPlay technology that was to blame.
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:41:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.Oh, so you went back to Android? /s
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almostI've had occasional glitches where the easiest solution is to delete &
new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after
two days the connection was lost. I had to delete the phone from the system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system disconnects.
set back up as new ... maybe once every ~2 years. Think once or
twice it was shortly after a dealership service, so there probably was
a silent entertainment system upgrade going on.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.That was quick. Guessing you got a decent trade-in price for the 2019 Insight due to the used car supply/demand pinch...although IIRC that
would have also been knocked down some by that traffic circle fender-bender.
We've been kind of debating if to similarly do a quick vehicle flip because of said market conditions, as our newest is coming up on 2 years old and still has less than 3K miles on it thanks to CoVid-centric vast reductions in
driving, so presumably it would garner a good price...but probably not good enough considering its very low mileage.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between myYup, which is the same conclusion that the rest of us came to months ago.
iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere, and the Transit experience strongly indicates
it was on the vehicle side.
-hh
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:41:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it'sOh, so you went back to Android? /s
been solved.
I've had occasional glitches where the easiest solution is to
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an
almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has
wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my
iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I had to
delete the phone from the system and set it up again. But, other
than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the Insight no dropped
audio or un-commanded CarPlay system disconnects.
delete & set back up as new ... maybe once every ~2 years. Think
once or twice it was shortly after a dealership service, so there
probably was a silent entertainment system upgrade going on.
That was quick. Guessing you got a decent trade-in price for the
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring,
Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues
in the first 2 weeks.
2019 Insight due to the used car supply/demand pinch...although
IIRC that would have also been knocked down some by that traffic
circle fender-bender.
We've been kind of debating if to similarly do a quick vehicle flip
because of said market conditions, as our newest is coming up on 2
years old and still has less than 3K miles on it thanks to
CoVid-centric vast reductions in driving, so presumably it would
garner a good price...but probably not good enough considering its
very low mileage.
Yup, which is the same conclusion that the rest of us came to
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I
drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least
one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between
my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present
in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the
Insight's USB connection somewhere, and the Transit experience
strongly indicates it was on the vehicle side.
months ago.
-hh
You are correct about the trade value but wrong about the accident.
The traffic circle incident was the CRV. The Insight was the t-bone,
a $16,000 repair. I was very happy to take a $22.5k trade value for
it given that it was $29k MSRP new and had 40,000 miles on it plus
damage history. Some similar are priced at $27k on the used market
and that's what the dealer is actually asking for mine. Not likely to
get that though.
Link: https://www.indyhonda.com/used/Honda/2019-Honda-Insight-140ffb280a0e09a9358a179108ce7689.htm
It was an interesting trade process. I wanted the Touring version in
red. My usual dealer told me that I would have to order that Accord
hybrid in red to get it in February. I was also informed that there
was a significant price increase coming. The sales department
actually claimed that there were none for sale at all in the local
area even though they might be listed online in new car inventory.
So, I look at the local inventory, and found a red Accord Touring 20
miles away in Greenwood. Called the dealer and yes, it was for sale.
I paid MSRP for it, not a penny more. I just had a feeling about what
the salesperson told me.
About 6 months ago the Blue Book trade value on my car was under
$20k!
As for CarPlay the cause was always uncertain because of the
multitude of failure points and limited ability on my part to
eliminate possibilities. The recent Transit and Accord experiences
helped narrow it down considerably.
On 1/5/2022 5:41 PM, Thomas E. wrote:to delete the phone from the system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system disconnects.
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I had
experience strongly indicates it was on the vehicle side.Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere, and the Transit
Always make sure your car has the up to date firmware/software for its entertainment system. Yes many car manufacturers do update.
On 2022-01-06 4:54 a.m., -hh wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:41:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.
Oh, so you went back to Android? /s
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almost
new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay.
CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after
two days the connection was lost. I had to delete the phone from the
system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless. >> Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system
disconnects.
I've had occasional glitches where the easiest solution is to delete &
set back up as new ... maybe once every ~2 years. Think once or
twice it was shortly after a dealership service, so there probably was
a silent entertainment system upgrade going on.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid
edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
That was quick. Guessing you got a decent trade-in price for the 2019 Insight due to the used car supply/demand pinch...although IIRC that
would have also been knocked down some by that traffic circle fender-bender.
We've been kind of debating if to similarly do a quick vehicle flip because
of said market conditions, as our newest is coming up on 2 years old and still has less than 3K miles on it thanks to CoVid-centric vast reductions in
driving, so presumably it would garner a good price...but probably not good
enough considering its very low mileage.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it. >> On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between my
iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the
Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB >> connection somewhere, and the Transit experience strongly indicates
it was on the vehicle side.
Yup, which is the same conclusion that the rest of us came to months ago.
-hhPrecisely. Who am I quoting here:
'CarPlay issues should have been discovered. It’s a key iOS feature.
...
HOW could Apple have missed the iPhone 13/iOS/CarPlay problems.'
<https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/1e-mef9AORw/m/w4Jo4Ai0AgAJ>
'So, guess what Allan [sic] B?
Car Play 15.0.2 has the following fix, and I quote:
CarPlay may fail to open audio apps or disconnect during playback (iOS only)
...
Alan, unfortunately 15.0.2 did not fix my CarPlay audio stoppage issue.'
<https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/cXUYY6E_1lg/m/32-uvMofAQAJ>
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:24:33 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 4:54 a.m., -hh wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:41:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:Precisely. Who am I quoting here:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.
Oh, so you went back to Android? /s
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almost
new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay.
CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after >>>> two days the connection was lost. I had to delete the phone from the
system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless. >>>> Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system
disconnects.
I've had occasional glitches where the easiest solution is to delete &
set back up as new ... maybe once every ~2 years. Think once or
twice it was shortly after a dealership service, so there probably was
a silent entertainment system upgrade going on.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid
edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
That was quick. Guessing you got a decent trade-in price for the 2019
Insight due to the used car supply/demand pinch...although IIRC that
would have also been knocked down some by that traffic circle fender-bender.
We've been kind of debating if to similarly do a quick vehicle flip because >>> of said market conditions, as our newest is coming up on 2 years old and >>> still has less than 3K miles on it thanks to CoVid-centric vast reductions in
driving, so presumably it would garner a good price...but probably not good >>> enough considering its very low mileage.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it. >>>> On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between my
iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the
Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB >>>> connection somewhere, and the Transit experience strongly indicates
it was on the vehicle side.
Yup, which is the same conclusion that the rest of us came to months ago. >>>
-hh
'CarPlay issues should have been discovered. It’s a key iOS feature.
...
HOW could Apple have missed the iPhone 13/iOS/CarPlay problems.'
<https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/1e-mef9AORw/m/w4Jo4Ai0AgAJ>
'So, guess what Allan [sic] B?
Car Play 15.0.2 has the following fix, and I quote:
CarPlay may fail to open audio apps or disconnect during playback (iOS only) >>
...
Alan, unfortunately 15.0.2 did not fix my CarPlay audio stoppage issue.'
<https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/cXUYY6E_1lg/m/32-uvMofAQAJ>
Except the last, the cited quotes refer to widespread iOS/CarPlay issues, not just my car. Liar, Liar, pants on fire....
On 2022-01-08 1:12 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:41:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it'sOh, so you went back to Android? /s
been solved.
I've had occasional glitches where the easiest solution is to
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an
almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has
wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my
iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I had to
delete the phone from the system and set it up again. But, other
than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the Insight no dropped
audio or un-commanded CarPlay system disconnects.
delete & set back up as new ... maybe once every ~2 years. Think
once or twice it was shortly after a dealership service, so there
probably was a silent entertainment system upgrade going on.
That was quick. Guessing you got a decent trade-in price for the
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring,
Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues
in the first 2 weeks.
2019 Insight due to the used car supply/demand pinch...although
IIRC that would have also been knocked down some by that traffic
circle fender-bender.
We've been kind of debating if to similarly do a quick vehicle flip
because of said market conditions, as our newest is coming up on 2
years old and still has less than 3K miles on it thanks to
CoVid-centric vast reductions in driving, so presumably it would
garner a good price...but probably not good enough considering its
very low mileage.
Yup, which is the same conclusion that the rest of us came to
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I
drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least
one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between
my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present
in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the
Insight's USB connection somewhere, and the Transit experience
strongly indicates it was on the vehicle side.
months ago.
-hh
You are correct about the trade value but wrong about the accident.
The traffic circle incident was the CRV. The Insight was the t-bone,
a $16,000 repair. I was very happy to take a $22.5k trade value for
it given that it was $29k MSRP new and had 40,000 miles on it plus
damage history. Some similar are priced at $27k on the used market
and that's what the dealer is actually asking for mine. Not likely to
get that though.
Link: https://www.indyhonda.com/used/Honda/2019-Honda-Insight-140ffb280a0e09a9358a179108ce7689.htm
It was an interesting trade process. I wanted the Touring version in
red. My usual dealer told me that I would have to order that Accord
hybrid in red to get it in February. I was also informed that there
was a significant price increase coming. The sales department
actually claimed that there were none for sale at all in the local
area even though they might be listed online in new car inventory.
So, I look at the local inventory, and found a red Accord Touring 20
miles away in Greenwood. Called the dealer and yes, it was for sale.
I paid MSRP for it, not a penny more. I just had a feeling about what
the salesperson told me.
About 6 months ago the Blue Book trade value on my car was under
$20k!
As for CarPlay the cause was always uncertain because of theAnd yet you repeatedly blamed Apple.
multitude of failure points and limited ability on my part to
eliminate possibilities. The recent Transit and Accord experiences
helped narrow it down considerably.
On 2022-01-08 1:13 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:to delete the phone from the system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system disconnects.
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:04:17 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-05 5:41 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I had
experience strongly indicates it was on the vehicle side.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere, and the Transit
The thing you repeatedly told us wasn't true when you insisted that it
was Apple's CarPlay technology that was to blame.
I said that the CarPlay system (that includes both Honda and Apple) was problematic. I still think that is true.No.
You said the problem was with Apple's software.
On 2022-01-08 1:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:24:33 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 4:54 a.m., -hh wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:41:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote:Precisely. Who am I quoting here:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.
Oh, so you went back to Android? /s
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almost >>>> new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay. >>>> CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after >>>> two days the connection was lost. I had to delete the phone from the >>>> system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless. >>>> Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system
disconnects.
I've had occasional glitches where the easiest solution is to delete & >>> set back up as new ... maybe once every ~2 years. Think once or
twice it was shortly after a dealership service, so there probably was >>> a silent entertainment system upgrade going on.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid >>>> edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
That was quick. Guessing you got a decent trade-in price for the 2019 >>> Insight due to the used car supply/demand pinch...although IIRC that
would have also been knocked down some by that traffic circle fender-bender.
We've been kind of debating if to similarly do a quick vehicle flip because
of said market conditions, as our newest is coming up on 2 years old and >>> still has less than 3K miles on it thanks to CoVid-centric vast reductions in
driving, so presumably it would garner a good price...but probably not good
enough considering its very low mileage.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it.
On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between my
iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the >>>> Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB >>>> connection somewhere, and the Transit experience strongly indicates >>>> it was on the vehicle side.
Yup, which is the same conclusion that the rest of us came to months ago.
-hh
'CarPlay issues should have been discovered. It’s a key iOS feature.
...
HOW could Apple have missed the iPhone 13/iOS/CarPlay problems.'
<https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/1e-mef9AORw/m/w4Jo4Ai0AgAJ>
'So, guess what Allan [sic] B?
Car Play 15.0.2 has the following fix, and I quote:
CarPlay may fail to open audio apps or disconnect during playback (iOS only)
...
Alan, unfortunately 15.0.2 did not fix my CarPlay audio stoppage issue.' >>
<https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/cXUYY6E_1lg/m/32-uvMofAQAJ>
Except the last, the cited quotes refer to widespread iOS/CarPlay issues, not just my car. Liar, Liar, pants on fire....Except you presented them as proof that the problem was Apple.
On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 5:03:24 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-08 1:18 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:24:33 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-06 4:54 a.m., -hh wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:41:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas E. wrote: >>>> More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it's been solved.Precisely. Who am I quoting here:
Oh, so you went back to Android? /s
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an almost >>>> new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has wired CarPlay. >>>> CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my iPhone SE2, but after
two days the connection was lost. I had to delete the phone from the >>>> system and set it up again. But, other than that, it has been flawless.
Unlike the Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system >>>> disconnects.
I've had occasional glitches where the easiest solution is to delete & >>> set back up as new ... maybe once every ~2 years. Think once or
twice it was shortly after a dealership service, so there probably was >>> a silent entertainment system upgrade going on.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring, Hybrid >>>> edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
That was quick. Guessing you got a decent trade-in price for the 2019 >>> Insight due to the used car supply/demand pinch...although IIRC that >>> would have also been knocked down some by that traffic circle fender-bender.
We've been kind of debating if to similarly do a quick vehicle flip because
of said market conditions, as our newest is coming up on 2 years old and
still has less than 3K miles on it thanks to CoVid-centric vast reductions in
driving, so presumably it would garner a good price...but probably not good
enough considering its very low mileage.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I drove it.
On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between my >>>> iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present in the >>>> Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the Insight's USB
connection somewhere, and the Transit experience strongly indicates >>>> it was on the vehicle side.
Yup, which is the same conclusion that the rest of us came to months ago.
-hh
'CarPlay issues should have been discovered. It’s a key iOS feature. >>
...
HOW could Apple have missed the iPhone 13/iOS/CarPlay problems.'
<https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/1e-mef9AORw/m/w4Jo4Ai0AgAJ>
'So, guess what Allan [sic] B?
Car Play 15.0.2 has the following fix, and I quote:
CarPlay may fail to open audio apps or disconnect during playback (iOS only)
...
Alan, unfortunately 15.0.2 did not fix my CarPlay audio stoppage issue.'
<https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/cXUYY6E_1lg/m/32-uvMofAQAJ>
Another quote from me:Except the last, the cited quotes refer to widespread iOS/CarPlay issues, not just my car. Liar, Liar, pants on fire....Except you presented them as proof that the problem was Apple.
Jan 11, 2021, 8:36:22 PM
New day, new data, new thread.
"So, fans, someone who actually knows something (as compared to calling people liars) referred me to this site:
https://www.gen3insight.com/threads/infotainment-issues-crash-restart-blank. I'm getting exactly the same issues on iOS and Android. Cable connection versus wireless also does not matter, same issues.
Back to the dealer on Friday with a printout of all 7 pages from this site. It's about 1/2 inch of paper.
It can be fixed. Some of the posts on this group are from owners with few or no problems."
Where is Apple blamed here?
On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 5:02:17 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:her and my brother-in-law. It has similar Car Play issues. The wife's CRV with it's Pioneer replacement radio has a few minor issues, but different from the OEM system. The Insight is still having a few random system disconnects dropped audio on Pandora
On 2022-01-08 1:12 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:And yet you repeatedly blamed Apple.
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:41:11 PM UTC-5, Thomas E.
wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I think it'sOh, so you went back to Android? /s
been solved.
I've had occasional glitches where the easiest solution is to
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an
almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has
wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in my
iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I had to
delete the phone from the system and set it up again. But, other
than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the Insight no dropped
audio or un-commanded CarPlay system disconnects.
delete & set back up as new ... maybe once every ~2 years. Think
once or twice it was shortly after a dealership service, so there
probably was a silent entertainment system upgrade going on.
That was quick. Guessing you got a decent trade-in price for the
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord Touring,
Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and CarPlay. No issues
in the first 2 weeks.
2019 Insight due to the used car supply/demand pinch...although
IIRC that would have also been knocked down some by that traffic
circle fender-bender.
We've been kind of debating if to similarly do a quick vehicle flip
because of said market conditions, as our newest is coming up on 2
years old and still has less than 3K miles on it thanks to
CoVid-centric vast reductions in driving, so presumably it would
garner a good price...but probably not good enough considering its
very low mileage.
Yup, which is the same conclusion that the rest of us came to
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time I
drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at least
one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss between
my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is not present
in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost certainly it was in the
Insight's USB connection somewhere, and the Transit experience
strongly indicates it was on the vehicle side.
months ago.
-hh
You are correct about the trade value but wrong about the accident.
The traffic circle incident was the CRV. The Insight was the t-bone,
a $16,000 repair. I was very happy to take a $22.5k trade value for
it given that it was $29k MSRP new and had 40,000 miles on it plus
damage history. Some similar are priced at $27k on the used market
and that's what the dealer is actually asking for mine. Not likely to
get that though.
Link:
https://www.indyhonda.com/used/Honda/2019-Honda-Insight-140ffb280a0e09a9358a179108ce7689.htm
It was an interesting trade process. I wanted the Touring version in
red. My usual dealer told me that I would have to order that Accord
hybrid in red to get it in February. I was also informed that there
was a significant price increase coming. The sales department
actually claimed that there were none for sale at all in the local
area even though they might be listed online in new car inventory.
So, I look at the local inventory, and found a red Accord Touring 20
miles away in Greenwood. Called the dealer and yes, it was for sale.
I paid MSRP for it, not a penny more. I just had a feeling about what
the salesperson told me.
About 6 months ago the Blue Book trade value on my car was under
$20k!
As for CarPlay the cause was always uncertain because of the
multitude of failure points and limited ability on my part to
eliminate possibilities. The recent Transit and Accord experiences
helped narrow it down considerably.
Not true Liarboy
A quote from a discussion I started:
"The Insight's Car Play system continues to be problematic. That despite an over-the-air Honda software update that arrived last week and several recent iOS updates. I had a chance to drive my sister's Accord last week while we were in Asheville with
What does the last sentence say?
On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 5:02:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-08 1:13 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:04:17 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:No.
On 2022-01-05 5:41 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I thinkThe thing you repeatedly told us wasn't true when you insisted
it's been solved.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an
almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has
wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in
my iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I
had to delete the phone from the system and set it up again.
But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the
Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system
disconnects.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord
Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and
CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time
I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at
least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss
between my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is
not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost
certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere,
and the Transit experience strongly indicates it was on the
vehicle side.
that it was Apple's CarPlay technology that was to blame.
I said that the CarPlay system (that includes both Honda and
Apple) was problematic. I still think that is true.
You said the problem was with Apple's software.
So here I blame iOS 14 and Apple, but was far from the only one with
issues. But I also mention that a 14.1 update improved the problem.
On 2022-01-08 5:57 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 5:02:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-08 1:13 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:04:17 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:No.
On 2022-01-05 5:41 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I thinkThe thing you repeatedly told us wasn't true when you insisted
it's been solved.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an
almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has
wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in
my iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I
had to delete the phone from the system and set it up again.
But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the
Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system
disconnects.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord
Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and
CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time
I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at
least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss
between my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is
not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost
certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere,
and the Transit experience strongly indicates it was on the
vehicle side.
that it was Apple's CarPlay technology that was to blame.
I said that the CarPlay system (that includes both Honda and
Apple) was problematic. I still think that is true.
You said the problem was with Apple's software.
So here I blame iOS 14 and Apple, but was far from the only one with issues. But I also mention that a 14.1 update improved the problem.Nevertheless, YOU blamed Apple.
And much more recently than the two posts you made which didn't assign
blame exclusively.
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:14:06 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-08 5:57 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 5:02:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:Nevertheless, YOU blamed Apple.
On 2022-01-08 1:13 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:04:17 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:No.
On 2022-01-05 5:41 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I thinkThe thing you repeatedly told us wasn't true when you insisted
it's been solved.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an
almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has
wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in
my iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I
had to delete the phone from the system and set it up again.
But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the
Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system
disconnects.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord
Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and
CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time
I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at
least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss
between my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is
not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost
certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere,
and the Transit experience strongly indicates it was on the
vehicle side.
that it was Apple's CarPlay technology that was to blame.
I said that the CarPlay system (that includes both Honda and
Apple) was problematic. I still think that is true.
You said the problem was with Apple's software.
So here I blame iOS 14 and Apple, but was far from the only one with
issues. But I also mention that a 14.1 update improved the problem.
And much more recently than the two posts you made which didn't assign
blame exclusively.
Bottom line Liarboy: I presented a balanced view that blamed both Honda and Apple.
On 2022-01-10 2:59 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:14:06 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-08 5:57 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 5:02:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:Nevertheless, YOU blamed Apple.
On 2022-01-08 1:13 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:04:17 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:No.
On 2022-01-05 5:41 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I thinkThe thing you repeatedly told us wasn't true when you insisted
it's been solved.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an
almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has >>>>>>> wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in
my iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I
had to delete the phone from the system and set it up again.
But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the
Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system
disconnects.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord
Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and
CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time
I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at >>>>>>> least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss
between my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is
not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost
certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere,
and the Transit experience strongly indicates it was on the
vehicle side.
that it was Apple's CarPlay technology that was to blame.
I said that the CarPlay system (that includes both Honda and
Apple) was problematic. I still think that is true.
You said the problem was with Apple's software.
So here I blame iOS 14 and Apple, but was far from the only one with
issues. But I also mention that a 14.1 update improved the problem.
And much more recently than the two posts you made which didn't assign
blame exclusively.
Bottom line Liarboy: I presented a balanced view that blamed both Honda and Apple.Bottom line: you started out with something like a balanced view...
...and then by the end had declared it an Apple problem.
On 2022-01-08 5:57 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 5:02:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-08 1:13 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:04:17 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:No.
On 2022-01-05 5:41 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I thinkThe thing you repeatedly told us wasn't true when you insisted
it's been solved.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an
almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has
wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in
my iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I
had to delete the phone from the system and set it up again.
But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the
Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system
disconnects.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord
Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and
CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time
I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at
least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss
between my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is
not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost
certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere,
and the Transit experience strongly indicates it was on the
vehicle side.
that it was Apple's CarPlay technology that was to blame.
I said that the CarPlay system (that includes both Honda and
Apple) was problematic. I still think that is true.
You said the problem was with Apple's software.
So here I blame iOS 14 and Apple, but was far from the only one with issues. But I also mention that a 14.1 update improved the problem.Nevertheless, YOU blamed Apple.
And much more recently than the two posts you made which didn't assign
blame exclusively.
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 6:17:29 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:assigned home tomorrow.
On 2022-01-10 2:59 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:14:06 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-08 5:57 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 5:02:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:Nevertheless, YOU blamed Apple.
On 2022-01-08 1:13 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:04:17 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2022-01-05 5:41 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:No.
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I thinkThe thing you repeatedly told us wasn't true when you insisted >>>>>> that it was Apple's CarPlay technology that was to blame.
it's been solved.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an >>>>>>> almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has >>>>>>> wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in >>>>>>> my iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I >>>>>>> had to delete the phone from the system and set it up again. >>>>>>> But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the
Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system
disconnects.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord
Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and
CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time >>>>>>> I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at >>>>>>> least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss
between my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is >>>>>>> not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost
certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere, >>>>>>> and the Transit experience strongly indicates it was on the >>>>>>> vehicle side.
I said that the CarPlay system (that includes both Honda and
Apple) was problematic. I still think that is true.
You said the problem was with Apple's software.
So here I blame iOS 14 and Apple, but was far from the only one with >>> issues. But I also mention that a 14.1 update improved the problem.
And much more recently than the two posts you made which didn't assign >> blame exclusively.
Bottom line Liarboy: I presented a balanced view that blamed both Honda and Apple.Bottom line: you started out with something like a balanced view...
...and then by the end had declared it an Apple problem.No Alan, many those posts cited 3rd party sourced issues with iOS 15 and CarPlay connections. Those issues were not my personal opinions or experience.
BTW, once started CarPlay has yet to fail on the Transit or the new Accord. Yesterday I did for the first time see CarPlay not connect on startup in the Accord. Powered down and back up and all was well. The borrowed Transit is going back to its
On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 6:17:29 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:assigned home tomorrow.
On 2022-01-10 2:59 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:14:06 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2022-01-08 5:57 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 5:02:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:Nevertheless, YOU blamed Apple.
On 2022-01-08 1:13 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:
On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:04:17 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2022-01-05 5:41 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:No.
More on CarPlay issues with my 2019 Honda Insight. I thinkThe thing you repeatedly told us wasn't true when you insisted >>>>>> that it was Apple's CarPlay technology that was to blame.
it's been solved.
Over the last 10 days I have had the opportunity to drive an >>>>>>> almost new 2021 Ford Transit van for about 6-10 hours. It has >>>>>>> wired CarPlay. CarPlay connected right up after I plugged in >>>>>>> my iPhone SE2, but after two days the connection was lost. I >>>>>>> had to delete the phone from the system and set it up again. >>>>>>> But, other than that, it has been flawless. Unlike the
Insight no dropped audio or un-commanded CarPlay system
disconnects.
Also, I recently traded the Insight for a 2022 Accord
Touring, Hybrid edition. It has wireless charging and
CarPlay. No issues in the first 2 weeks.
The Insight system had an audio disconnect almost every time >>>>>>> I drove it. On a long trip of over an hour I routinely got at >>>>>>> least one total disconnect.
So, I am led to conclude that there was something amiss
between my iPhone and the car's entertainment system that is >>>>>>> not present in the Transit or the new Accord. Almost
certainly it was in the Insight's USB connection somewhere, >>>>>>> and the Transit experience strongly indicates it was on the >>>>>>> vehicle side.
I said that the CarPlay system (that includes both Honda and
Apple) was problematic. I still think that is true.
You said the problem was with Apple's software.
So here I blame iOS 14 and Apple, but was far from the only one with >>> issues. But I also mention that a 14.1 update improved the problem.
And much more recently than the two posts you made which didn't assign >> blame exclusively.
Bottom line Liarboy: I presented a balanced view that blamed both Honda and Apple.Bottom line: you started out with something like a balanced view...
...and then by the end had declared it an Apple problem.No Alan, many those posts cited 3rd party sourced issues with iOS 15 and CarPlay connections. Those issues were not my personal opinions or experience.
BTW, once started CarPlay has yet to fail on the Transit or the new Accord. Yesterday I did for the first time see CarPlay not connect on startup in the Accord. Powered down and back up and all was well. The borrowed Transit is going back to its
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