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    From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 4 12:27:17 2022
    Hi,

    Anyone seen this? What may it mean for ROOL, if anything?

    https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/01/open-source-developers-urged-to-ditch-github-following-copilot-launch/?guccounter=1

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    Chris Newman

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  • From Steve Fryatt@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Mon Jul 4 18:40:20 2022
    On 4 Jul, Chris Newman wrote in message
    <5a02b21c46cvjazz@waitrose.com>:

    Anyone seen this? What may it mean for ROOL, if anything?

    What would it mean?

    The service in question is the Cloud-hosted GitHub, while ROOL self-host a GitLab instance for their source control. GitHub and GitLab are completely separate, unrelated companies -- and neither of them are the developers of
    Git.

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    Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

    http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to news@stevefryatt.org.uk on Mon Jul 4 23:22:21 2022
    In article <mpro.reibr300q8kgd0293.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
    On 4 Jul, Chris Newman wrote in message <5a02b21c46cvjazz@waitrose.com>:

    Anyone seen this? What may it mean for ROOL, if anything?

    What would it mean?

    The service in question is the Cloud-hosted GitHub, while ROOL
    self-host a GitLab instance for their source control. GitHub and GitLab
    are completely separate, unrelated companies -- and neither of them are
    the developers of Git.

    Ah! Thanks for the clarification.

    Yours in ignorance.

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    Chris Newman

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Sat Jul 16 17:13:12 2022
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
    Hi,

    Anyone seen this? What may it mean for ROOL, if anything?

    https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/01/open-source-developers-urged-to-ditch-github-following-copilot-launch/?guccounter=1

    Not a lot. It's a tool that tries to write code for you, based on code it's seen before. A bit like 'predictive text' can guess what word you meant to write next or maybe finish your sentence for you.

    The article above is querying the legal status of such code, and whether it amounts to plagiarism. A bit like having a computer read someone else's
    novel and suggest you write words that might have similarity to words it has seen from another author. It makes the idea of 'authorship' very
    complicated, which makes the legal status unclear (in particular, can
    Microsoft claim any credit? Should they get royalties for every novel
    written using their tool? Does the author of the source material get a say
    in this? etc etc). The article suggests a boycott is a way for developers
    to signify their displeasure.

    The tool is probably not going to work very well writing RISC OS software
    since it won't have been trained on RISC OS code - maybe ok for generic C
    but not for SWI Wimp_Poll... It'll be like having the tool suggest English words while writing a novel in Swedish.

    But the use of the tool is entirely optional, so RISC OS folks can continue using Github to host their software if they wish. As mentioned it doesn't affect ROOL who don't use Github.

    Theo

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