• Re: Printing Postscript multiples

    From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Paul Sprangers on Sun Mar 27 12:04:01 2022
    In message <59cfb19cffPaul@sprie.nl>
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

    In article <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>,
    Richard Torrens (News) <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Is there any reason why you don't use !PDF? As far as I know, it prints perfectly to scale, while you can specify any number of copies.

    http://www.riscos.info/packages/DocumentDetails.html#PDF

    !PDFTest is an enhanced version of !PDF with more facilities




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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to News+19074@Torrens.org on Sun Mar 27 12:08:55 2022
    In message <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>
    "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    Every fortnight my wife gets a pdf file to print 15 copies off. She has problems printing this from her Macbook Lite.

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Have you checked the Printer setup options with !PDFTest ?

    Have you checked your RISC OS printers page size and graphics margins?

    Don't forget you can export from !PDFTest a new Postscript file or even
    another PDF, menu over the PDF


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  • From Richard Torrens (News)@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 27 10:19:37 2022
    Every fortnight my wife gets a pdf file to print 15 copies off. She has problems printing this from her Macbook Lite.

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    So I have used PDFUtils: *pdftops <filename> creates a PostScript file. If
    I drop this on the Printer icon I get one perfect printout.

    But how can I print 15 off?

    The .ps file is 5MB and takes a significant time to get to the printer.
    Yes, I can drop it on the printer icon 15 times and wait. But that's a
    pain, and a long job!

    This is using a Brother duplex printer with Richard Darby's definition
    file.
    http://www.rjdarby.co.uk/riscos/

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  • From Paul Sprangers@21:1/5 to News+19074@Torrens.org on Sun Mar 27 12:35:31 2022
    In article <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>,
    Richard Torrens (News) <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Is there any reason why you don't use !PDF? As far as I know, it prints perfectly to scale, while you can specify any number of copies.

    http://www.riscos.info/packages/DocumentDetails.html#PDF

    Kind regards,
    Paul Sprangers

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  • From Paul Sprangers@21:1/5 to Jonathan Conner on Sun Mar 27 13:59:07 2022
    In article <8e3db6cf59.JCCArc@arcady.plus.com>,
    Jonathan Conner <jcc@arcady.plus.com> wrote:

    Excellent - but how do I persuade it to print duplex, please?

    Duplex printing is usually set by the printer driver - or directly on the printer itself. However...

    What I need is to print four A5 pages as a pamphlet on to A4. It does the setup beautifully but will only produce two separate sheets.

    !PDF has a pamphlet option in the Print menu. Make sure that you haven't
    set duplex printing on the printer driver and start printing. Half way, the program will ask you to turn the paper over. Ready. (That is, I had to experiment a bit as to how exactly the paper should be turned over, but pamphlet printing is surely possible.)

    Kind regards,
    Paul

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  • From Jonathan Conner@21:1/5 to Paul Sprangers on Sun Mar 27 12:26:03 2022
    In message <59cfb19cffPaul@sprie.nl>
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

    In article <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>,
    Richard Torrens (News) <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Is there any reason why you don't use !PDF? As far as I know, it prints perfectly to scale, while you can specify any number of copies.

    http://www.riscos.info/packages/DocumentDetails.html#PDF

    Excellent - but how do I persuade it to print duplex, please?

    What I need is to print four A5 pages as a pamphlet on to A4. It does the
    setup beautifully but will only produce two separate sheets.

    Regards,

    Jonathan.

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Jonathan Conner on Sun Mar 27 13:11:42 2022
    In message <8e3db6cf59.JCCArc@arcady.plus.com>
    Jonathan Conner <jcc@arcady.plus.com> wrote:

    In message <59cfb19cffPaul@sprie.nl>
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

    In article <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>,
    Richard Torrens (News) <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Is there any reason why you don't use !PDF? As far as I know, it prints
    perfectly to scale, while you can specify any number of copies.

    http://www.riscos.info/packages/DocumentDetails.html#PDF

    Excellent - but how do I persuade it to print duplex, please?

    What I need is to print four A5 pages as a pamphlet on to A4. It does the setup beautifully but will only produce two separate sheets.

    Err goto to the print option from the menu over the document, and tick the "Double sided printing" I would think. Obviously your printer driver must
    also support double sided printing.


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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to News+19074@torrens.org on Sun Mar 27 13:50:35 2022
    "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+19074@torrens.org> wrote:
    Every fortnight my wife gets a pdf file to print 15 copies off. She has problems printing this from her Macbook Lite.

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    So I have used PDFUtils: *pdftops <filename> creates a PostScript file. If
    I drop this on the Printer icon I get one perfect printout.

    But how can I print 15 off?

    The .ps file is 5MB and takes a significant time to get to the printer.
    Yes, I can drop it on the printer icon 15 times and wait. But that's a
    pain, and a long job!

    According to: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1890591/postscript-number-of-copies

    You want a
    /#copies 15

    command in a
    %%BeginProlog
    %%BeginSetup
    ...
    %%EndSetup
    %%EndProlog

    section, which presumably already exists in your file.

    (which is not to say there isn't a better way using the printing system
    rather than hacking the Postscript)

    Theo

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  • From Jonathan Conner@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sun Mar 27 13:44:21 2022
    In message <636bbacf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <8e3db6cf59.JCCArc@arcady.plus.com>
    Jonathan Conner <jcc@arcady.plus.com> wrote:

    In message <59cfb19cffPaul@sprie.nl>
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

    In article <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>,
    Richard Torrens (News) <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Is there any reason why you don't use !PDF? As far as I know, it prints
    perfectly to scale, while you can specify any number of copies.

    http://www.riscos.info/packages/DocumentDetails.html#PDF

    Excellent - but how do I persuade it to print duplex, please?

    What I need is to print four A5 pages as a pamphlet on to A4. It does the
    setup beautifully but will only produce two separate sheets.

    Err goto to the print option from the menu over the document, and tick the "Double sided printing" I would think. Obviously your printer driver must also support double sided printing.

    O.K., I did that and selected 'Pamphlet' but still two separate sheets. I
    can email the PDF file to the PC and it works fine to the same network
    printer. I'm using the Postscript 2 printer option on the iMX6 and
    printing to the file as normal. Obviously getting something wrong
    somewhere.

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  • From Jonathan Conner@21:1/5 to Paul Sprangers on Sun Mar 27 13:46:33 2022
    In message <59cfb9447ePaul@sprie.nl>
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

    In article <8e3db6cf59.JCCArc@arcady.plus.com>,
    Jonathan Conner <jcc@arcady.plus.com> wrote:

    Excellent - but how do I persuade it to print duplex, please?

    Duplex printing is usually set by the printer driver - or directly on the printer itself. However...

    What I need is to print four A5 pages as a pamphlet on to A4. It does the
    setup beautifully but will only produce two separate sheets.

    !PDF has a pamphlet option in the Print menu. Make sure that you haven't
    set duplex printing on the printer driver and start printing. Half way, the program will ask you to turn the paper over. Ready. (That is, I had to experiment a bit as to how exactly the paper should be turned over, but pamphlet printing is surely possible.)

    Thank you - fine for the odd copy but not for a batch. At the moment I
    email the PDF to my PC and it prints the pamphlet as required to the same network printer.

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Jonathan Conner on Sun Mar 27 14:06:50 2022
    In message <9d68bdcf59.JCCArc@arcady.plus.com>
    Jonathan Conner <jcc@arcady.plus.com> wrote:

    In message <636bbacf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <8e3db6cf59.JCCArc@arcady.plus.com>
    Jonathan Conner <jcc@arcady.plus.com> wrote:

    In message <59cfb19cffPaul@sprie.nl>
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

    In article <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>,
    Richard Torrens (News) <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Is there any reason why you don't use !PDF? As far as I know, it prints >>>> perfectly to scale, while you can specify any number of copies.

    http://www.riscos.info/packages/DocumentDetails.html#PDF

    Excellent - but how do I persuade it to print duplex, please?

    What I need is to print four A5 pages as a pamphlet on to A4. It does the >>> setup beautifully but will only produce two separate sheets.

    Err goto to the print option from the menu over the document, and tick the >> "Double sided printing" I would think. Obviously your printer driver must
    also support double sided printing.

    O.K., I did that and selected 'Pamphlet' but still two separate sheets. I
    can email the PDF file to the PC and it works fine to the same network printer. I'm using the Postscript 2 printer option on the iMX6 and
    printing to the file as normal. Obviously getting something wrong
    somewhere.

    So you are using a network printer? Ok then why are you using Postscript 2
    ? You need to send it your printer direct as the Postscript 2 driver does
    not actually support flipping the page for duplex (Double sided printing).

    Does your printer support PCL5 or 6 or even better Postscript/Bscript,
    etc.? What model/make of printer is it.

    Richard Darby has various Duplex drivers that can used with your network printer - available via !Store they are free.

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  • From Jonathan Conner@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sun Mar 27 15:48:42 2022
    In message <6d77bfcf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <9d68bdcf59.JCCArc@arcady.plus.com>
    Jonathan Conner <jcc@arcady.plus.com> wrote:

    In message <636bbacf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <8e3db6cf59.JCCArc@arcady.plus.com>
    Jonathan Conner <jcc@arcady.plus.com> wrote:

    In message <59cfb19cffPaul@sprie.nl>
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

    In article <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>,
    Richard Torrens (News) <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Is there any reason why you don't use !PDF? As far as I know, it prints >>>>> perfectly to scale, while you can specify any number of copies.

    http://www.riscos.info/packages/DocumentDetails.html#PDF

    Excellent - but how do I persuade it to print duplex, please?

    What I need is to print four A5 pages as a pamphlet on to A4. It does the >>>> setup beautifully but will only produce two separate sheets.

    Err goto to the print option from the menu over the document, and tick the >>> "Double sided printing" I would think. Obviously your printer driver must >>> also support double sided printing.

    O.K., I did that and selected 'Pamphlet' but still two separate sheets. I
    can email the PDF file to the PC and it works fine to the same network
    printer. I'm using the Postscript 2 printer option on the iMX6 and
    printing to the file as normal. Obviously getting something wrong
    somewhere.

    So you are using a network printer? Ok then why are you using Postscript 2
    ? You need to send it your printer direct as the Postscript 2 driver does
    not actually support flipping the page for duplex (Double sided printing).

    Does your printer support PCL5 or 6 or even better Postscript/Bscript,
    etc.? What model/make of printer is it.

    Kyocera Ecosys P5026

    Richard Darby has various Duplex drivers that can used with your network printer - available via !Store they are free.

    Installed that. However, it seems that I still have to flip the paper
    manually. If I don't set Print Both Sides and from that Pamphlet then it
    does proper Duplex but not the Pamphlet. Hmm. Either I'm doing something
    very wrong or I can have Duplex but not Pamphlet or Pamphlet and not
    Duplex.

    Comments please.

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  • From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to Jonathan Conner on Sun Mar 27 17:53:57 2022
    On 27 Mar 2022 as I do recall,
    Jonathan Conner wrote:

    In message <6d77bfcf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    [snip]


    Richard Darby has various Duplex drivers that can used with your network printer - available via !Store they are free.

    Installed that. However, it seems that I still have to flip the paper manually. If I don't set Print Both Sides and from that Pamphlet then it
    does proper Duplex but not the Pamphlet. Hmm. Either I'm doing something
    very wrong or I can have Duplex but not Pamphlet or Pamphlet and not
    Duplex.

    If you wangle the setup right it should be possible to print multiple
    copies in pamphlet format while flipping the pages manually (I've
    certainly done it from Impression in the past) - but you do have to get
    the flip axis and page sort order set right out of at least 4 potential combinations depending on your specific printer....

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Jonathan Conner on Sun Mar 27 17:34:44 2022
    In message <3ccbc8cf59.JCCArc@arcady.plus.com>
    Jonathan Conner <jcc@arcady.plus.com> wrote:

    In message <6d77bfcf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <9d68bdcf59.JCCArc@arcady.plus.com>
    Jonathan Conner <jcc@arcady.plus.com> wrote:

    In message <636bbacf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <8e3db6cf59.JCCArc@arcady.plus.com>
    Jonathan Conner <jcc@arcady.plus.com> wrote:

    In message <59cfb19cffPaul@sprie.nl>
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

    In article <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>,
    Richard Torrens (News) <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Is there any reason why you don't use !PDF? As far as I know, it prints >>>>>> perfectly to scale, while you can specify any number of copies.

    http://www.riscos.info/packages/DocumentDetails.html#PDF

    Excellent - but how do I persuade it to print duplex, please?

    What I need is to print four A5 pages as a pamphlet on to A4. It does the >>>>> setup beautifully but will only produce two separate sheets.

    Err goto to the print option from the menu over the document, and tick the >>>> "Double sided printing" I would think. Obviously your printer driver must >>>> also support double sided printing.

    O.K., I did that and selected 'Pamphlet' but still two separate sheets. I >>> can email the PDF file to the PC and it works fine to the same network
    printer. I'm using the Postscript 2 printer option on the iMX6 and
    printing to the file as normal. Obviously getting something wrong
    somewhere.

    So you are using a network printer? Ok then why are you using Postscript 2 >> ? You need to send it your printer direct as the Postscript 2 driver does
    not actually support flipping the page for duplex (Double sided printing).

    Does your printer support PCL5 or 6 or even better Postscript/Bscript,
    etc.? What model/make of printer is it.

    Kyocera Ecosys P5026

    I nice printer, just looked up the specs (I also have a Kyocera).

    Yours has PCL 6 (PCL 5c/PCL-XL), Postscript 3 (KPDL 3)

    KPDL is Kyocera version of Postscript (to save on the rather high licence
    fees)

    Richard Darby has various Duplex drivers that can used with your network
    printer - available via !Store they are free.

    Installed that. However, it seems that I still have to flip the paper manually. If I don't set Print Both Sides and from that Pamphlet then it
    does proper Duplex but not the Pamphlet. Hmm. Either I'm doing something
    very wrong or I can have Duplex but not Pamphlet or Pamphlet and not
    Duplex.

    Hmm not sure what going on here, sounds like a conflict of instructions to
    the printer maybe.

    In the printer driver have you set Double sided printing on the RISC OS
    side.

    Actually looking at !PDF print configuration (which I admit is somewhat
    poor) to the right of the option to double sided printing, is a SETUP
    button and within that is a turn the paper over option, plus landscape
    options which you might need to use. You could try that.




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  • From Paul Sprangers@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sun Mar 27 19:50:49 2022
    In article <3e80d2cf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    In the printer driver have you set Double sided printing on the RISC OS
    side

    You should really turn this OFF for pamphlet printing. !PDF is taking care
    for double sided printing, by letting you turn the papers manually at some point. You probably need to tick the 'landscape' printing in the setup
    menu. It's a bit of experimenting, but PDF pamphlet printing can certainly
    be done.

    Kind regards,
    Paul

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to News+19084@Torrens.org on Sat Apr 2 11:34:50 2022
    In message <59d2c65bb6news*@Torrens.org>
    "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+19084@Torrens.org> wrote:

    In article <59cfb19cffPaul@sprie.nl>,
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:
    In article <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>,
    Richard Torrens (News) <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Is there any reason why you don't use !PDF? As far as I know, it prints
    perfectly to scale, while you can specify any number of copies.

    As I said
    !PDFtest prints it, but not quite to scale.

    The edges are slightly clipped. !PDFtest was the first thing I tried.

    Within !PDFTest > Print > Setup > Try ticking either or both the "Scale to
    Fit" and/or "Use Paper margins" Remember to click on Set for that session
    or Save to keep those settings.

    See if that fixes your issue.

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  • From Richard Torrens (News)@21:1/5 to Paul Sprangers on Sat Apr 2 11:10:43 2022
    In article <59cfb19cffPaul@sprie.nl>,
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:
    In article <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>,
    Richard Torrens (News) <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Is there any reason why you don't use !PDF? As far as I know, it prints perfectly to scale, while you can specify any number of copies.

    As I said
    !PDFtest prints it, but not quite to scale.

    The edges are slightly clipped. !PDFtest was the first thing I tried.

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  • From Richard Torrens (News)@21:1/5 to Theo on Sat Apr 2 11:37:15 2022
    In article <dwE*MDbKy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    But how can I print 15 off?

    The .ps file is 5MB and takes a significant time to get to the printer. Yes, I can drop it on the printer icon 15 times and wait. But that's a pain, and a long job!

    According to: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1890591/postscript-number-of-copies

    You want a
    /#copies 15

    command in a
    %%BeginProlog
    %%BeginSetup
    ...
    %%EndSetup
    %%EndProlog

    section, which presumably already exists in your file.

    (which is not to say there isn't a better way using the printing system rather than hacking the Postscript)

    HelloTheo

    The ps file is not quite as the link says. There are two separate sections

    %%BeginProlog
    ---
    %%EndProlog

    %%BeginSetup
    ...
    %%EndSetup

    However - I will experiment! Thanks.

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  • From Richard Torrens (News)@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sat Apr 2 11:33:50 2022
    In article <fdabb4cf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>
    "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    Every fortnight my wife gets a pdf file to print 15 copies off. She has problems printing this from her Macbook Lite.

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Have you checked the Printer setup options with !PDFTest ?

    No. But !PDFtest has no paper size option. It has a variable scale.

    Have you checked your RISC OS printers page size and graphics margins?

    No. Text margins are already zero. I will have to experiment with
    Graphics margins.

    Don't forget you can export from !PDFTest a new Postscript file or even another PDF, menu over the PDF

    Indeed. Not sure how exporting a ps file would help though. It might show
    me how to edit the file to add Theo's "/#copies 15".

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to News+19084@Torrens.org on Sat Apr 2 14:12:26 2022
    In message <59d2c8798enews*@Torrens.org>
    "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+19084@Torrens.org> wrote:

    In article <fdabb4cf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <59cfaaaa29news*@Torrens.org>
    "Richard Torrens (News)" <News+19074@Torrens.org> wrote:

    Every fortnight my wife gets a pdf file to print 15 copies off. She has
    problems printing this from her Macbook Lite.

    So I use RiscOS. !PDFtest primts it, but not quite to scale.

    Have you checked the Printer setup options with !PDFTest ?

    No. But !PDFtest has no paper size option. It has a variable scale.

    It uses whatever your printer drivers configured Page size is and graphics margins.

    I tend to use A4 (Generic PS) - thats the page size name.
    Page size 209.9 mm width 297.0 mm Height

    Graphics margins 8.1 mm top and bottom
    6.3 mm left and right.

    Have you checked your RISC OS printers page size and graphics margins?

    No. Text margins are already zero. I will have to experiment with
    Graphics margins.

    nearly everything nowadays uses the graphics margins for actual printing
    of documents including PDF's


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    Chris Hughes
    Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have move to
    Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
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  • From Richard Torrens (News)@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Mon Apr 4 10:47:17 2022
    In article <f490c8d259.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    Within !PDFTest > Print > Setup > Try ticking either or both the "Scale
    to Fit" and/or "Use Paper margins" Remember to click on Set for that
    session or Save to keep those settings.

    See if that fixes your issue.

    Yes - ticking "Use Paper margins" does the trick. Thanks.

    Unfortunately there is no Help available from the icon bar, and the Application's Help doesn't. So what the difference is remains a mystery!

    Also !PDFTest appears to be no longer on
    https://www.riscosports.co.uk/vfp/
    aka
    https://www.cgransden.co.uk/

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    Richard Torrens. News email address is valid - for a limited time only.
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  • From Brian Jordan@21:1/5 to News+19086@Torrens.org on Mon Apr 4 12:20:59 2022
    In article <59d3cbe2d4news*@Torrens.org>,
    Richard Torrens (News) <News+19086@Torrens.org> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Also !PDFTest appears to be no longer on
    https://www.riscosports.co.uk/vfp/
    aka
    https://www.cgransden.co.uk/

    It's a bit tucked away...

    https://www.cgransden.co.uk/downloads.html

    The 10th item listed 'Latest alpha version of !PDF' links to a zip file 'pdftest/zip' wherein resides the app '!PDFtest'. When loaded PDF - >info reveals 'Version 3.03.1.25alpha 8 (20 May 2013)'

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    Brian Jordan
    RISC OS 5.28 (16-Dec-20) on Raspberry Pi _____________________________________________________________________

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  • From Paul Sprangers@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Mon Apr 4 14:24:54 2022
    In article <2f39b4cf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    !PDFTest is an enhanced version of !PDF with more facilities

    But it doesn't run on my 4té (Pi4). It freezes the machine while loading, without any error message.

    Paul

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    http://riscos.sprie.nl

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Paul Sprangers on Mon Apr 4 14:33:36 2022
    In message <59d3da50d7Paul@sprie.nl>
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

    In article <2f39b4cf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    !PDFTest is an enhanced version of !PDF with more facilities

    But it doesn't run on my 4té (Pi4). It freezes the machine while loading, without any error message.

    try this version, It requires VFP which you should have on your Pi4

    https://www.riscosports.co.uk/vfp/pdftest.zip

    This is 3.03.1.25alpha 9 (22 Aug 2015)

    The Help file is within the application, it just lists the changes to each version.

    For some odd reason the link above is missing from the Vfp Download page
    of Chris Gransden webpage.

    I am using this version happily on my ARMX6 and have been for a long time.

    --
    Chris Hughes
    Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have move to
    Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
    check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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  • From Doug Webb@21:1/5 to Paul Sprangers on Mon Apr 4 16:03:28 2022
    In message <59d3e5833bPaul@sprie.nl>
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

    In article <169be0d359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    try this version, It requires VFP which you should have on your Pi4
    https://www.riscosports.co.uk/vfp/pdftest.zip

    This version doesn't freeze the machine, but it doesn't run either. Nothing visible happens at all.

    OK that version has issues with SWP and some Zeropain issues.

    Go off to Jan De Boer's site , www.tellima.nl/riscos

    and download PatchSWP and run the !Runimage through it and then save it
    back in to PDFTest as !RunImage and it will run.

    Just tried it here and it runs ok on my Pi.

    Also updated PDF as well the same way.

    How do I control if VFP is on my computer? In the SharedLibs.lib.abi-2/0 directory, there's a VFP subdirectory with a lot of files.

    AFAIK you don't it is with the system chip or not.



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    5.28.

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  • From Paul Sprangers@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Mon Apr 4 16:27:12 2022
    In article <169be0d359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    try this version, It requires VFP which you should have on your Pi4 https://www.riscosports.co.uk/vfp/pdftest.zip

    This version doesn't freeze the machine, but it doesn't run either. Nothing visible happens at all.

    How do I control if VFP is on my computer? In the SharedLibs.lib.abi-2/0 directory, there's a VFP subdirectory with a lot of files.

    Paul

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  • From Paul Sprangers@21:1/5 to Doug Webb on Mon Apr 4 18:12:54 2022
    In article <4cd5e8d359.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
    Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

    OK that version has issues with SWP and some Zeropain issues.
    Go off to Jan De Boer's site , www.tellima.nl/riscos

    That did the trick indeed. Thank you very much!

    Paul

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