• Archive Magazine Subscription

    From John Bryan@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 19 16:42:51 2022
    I have subscribed to Archive for many a year.
    Last year when Gavin Smith took over I sent my subscription to
    him using his name as the payee.

    This year I received with my last magazine with a slip saying that and I quote...

    "It is easy to resubscribe - plase turn over for payment methods."

    Not so using UK bank transfer is a totally different account with an IBAN number etc.

    However trying to pay Gavin this way I hit a major problem in that my bank requires the account name to fulfil their security protocol.

    Gavin has NOT provided this name and having sent an email to

    gavin at archivemag dot co dot uk

    I have not had a reply.

    Does anyone have an idea how to resolve this impasse?

    I suppose I could send a cheque to the address given but in this day and
    age why?


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    John Bryan

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  • From Paul Oates@21:1/5 to John Bryan on Sat Feb 19 17:39:16 2022
    Hi John

    When I make a payment using electronic banking my bank retains the
    details, so I can reuse them as I do for Gavin (and for others). Are the details from your last payment not still held?

    I thought I set up the instruction with Gavin as Payee, but on checking I
    find it says 'Abbey Press' and it has gone through the interbank
    validation process, so you should be OK using that.

    Not sure what you are saying about the IBAN and account number. The IBAN
    for my personal account is a combination of numbers and letters (exact configuration depends on country concerned), but the last 14 digits are my
    sort code and account number.

    The website that gives details of IBANs includes a calculator, so if you
    need it you can use that (I just did an internet search for IBAN format or
    some such).

    best wishes

    In message <672649bd59.John@jrb.5026.gmail.com>
    John Bryan <jrb.5026@gmail.com> wrote:

    I have subscribed to Archive for many a year.
    Last year when Gavin Smith took over I sent my subscription to
    him using his name as the payee.

    This year I received with my last magazine with a slip saying that and I quote...

    "It is easy to resubscribe - plase turn over for payment methods."

    Not so using UK bank transfer is a totally different account with an IBAN number etc.

    However trying to pay Gavin this way I hit a major problem in that my bank requires the account name to fulfil their security protocol.






    --
    Paul Oates
    oatespaul@btinternet.com

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  • From Adrian Crafer@21:1/5 to John Bryan on Sat Feb 19 17:46:00 2022
    In message <672649bd59.John@jrb.5026.gmail.com>
    John Bryan <jrb.5026@gmail.com> wrote:

    I have subscribed to Archive for many a year.
    Last year when Gavin Smith took over I sent my subscription to
    him using his name as the payee.

    This year I received with my last magazine with a slip saying that and I quote...

    "It is easy to resubscribe - plase turn over for payment methods."

    Not so using UK bank transfer is a totally different account with an IBAN number etc.

    However trying to pay Gavin this way I hit a major problem in that my bank requires the account name to fulfil their security protocol.

    Gavin has NOT provided this name and having sent an email to

    gavin at archivemag dot co dot uk

    I have not had a reply.

    Does anyone have an idea how to resolve this impasse?

    I suppose I could send a cheque to the address given but in this day and
    age why?

    Not clear what you are trying to do? are you outside the uk? if outside
    then IBAN is relevant, if you are paying UK bank to UK bank then all you
    need are sort code, account number and account name . All the info is on
    the web site for archive magazine, plus options for paypal and old
    fashioned cheque.

    Adrian


    --


    acrafer@orpheusmail.co.uk

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Paul Oates on Sat Feb 19 19:47:52 2022
    In message <a0504ebd59.Paul@oatespaul.btinternet.com>
    Paul Oates <oatespaul@btinternet.com> wrote:

    Hi John

    When I make a payment using electronic banking my bank retains the
    details, so I can reuse them as I do for Gavin (and for others). Are the details from your last payment not still held?

    I thought I set up the instruction with Gavin as Payee, but on checking I find it says 'Abbey Press' and it has gone through the interbank
    validation process, so you should be OK using that.

    Err be careful its now Northern Oak Publishing, - Abbey Press was the late
    Jim Nagel's company.

    But the bank account name should be as Gavin Smith @Starling Bank

    per this link:
    http://www.archivemag.co.uk/+prices.php

    The account name is the same when using the IBAN account details "Gavin
    Smith" But you do not need to use IBAN unless you are overseas, i.e.
    outside the UK or channel islands


    --
    Chris Hughes
    Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022
    check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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  • From Steve Fryatt@21:1/5 to Paul Oates on Sat Feb 19 19:19:21 2022
    On 19 Feb, Paul Oates wrote in message
    <a0504ebd59.Paul@oatespaul.btinternet.com>:

    When I make a payment using electronic banking my bank retains the
    details, so I can reuse them as I do for Gavin (and for others). Are the details from your last payment not still held?

    Probably a bad idea, as the UK account details have changed at some point in the last 12 months. It was originally an account in Gavin's name at Halifax; it's now an account in his name at Starling Bank. As you'd expect, sort code and account number are both different.

    I thought I set up the instruction with Gavin as Payee, but on checking I find it says 'Abbey Press' and it has gone through the interbank
    validation process, so you should be OK using that.

    Gavin is the payee, and *not* Abbey Press -- which was retained by the Nagel family as far as I know. There's a different publisher named on the back of current issues, which I assume is Gavin's.

    However trying to pay Gavin this way I hit a major problem in that my
    bank requires the account name to fulfil their security protocol.

    The website -- http://www.archivemag.co.uk/+prices.php -- says use "Gavin Smith" as payee for the Starling Bank account mentioned above (which seems
    odd, as cheques are payable to "Archive Magazine"). There are full details
    of sort code and account number there, too (plus IBAN, PayPal and cheque).

    --
    Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

    http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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  • From Matthew Phillips@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 19 20:34:01 2022
    In message <mpro.r7kgc403lf0wb05jj.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
    on 19 Feb 2022 Steve Fryatt wrote:

    However trying to pay Gavin this way I hit a major problem in that my bank requires the account name to fulfil their security protocol.

    The website -- http://www.archivemag.co.uk/+prices.php -- says use "Gavin Smith" as payee for the Starling Bank account mentioned above (which seems odd, as cheques are payable to "Archive Magazine"). There are full details
    of sort code and account number there, too (plus IBAN, PayPal and cheque).

    The details on the web site are correct. What was printed on the slip with your last magazine may not be.

    Gavin's account is, in effect, something like "Gavin Smith trading as Archive Magazine" and while he can cash cheques payable to Archive Magazine, the bank account name which you have to input for BACS payment is Gavin Smith.

    A few weeks ago I couldn't make my bank accept it as Archive Magazine, so I emailed Gavin and he told me what to put instead, and explained the
    situation. He said he was updating the web site and so I assume it's now correct.

    --
    Matthew Phillips
    Durham

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  • From John Bryan@21:1/5 to Adrian Crafer on Sun Feb 20 15:01:35 2022
    In message <b8ee4ebd59.bz36@orpheusnet.co.uk>
    Adrian Crafer <acrafer@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

    In message <672649bd59.John@jrb.5026.gmail.com>
    John Bryan <jrb.5026@gmail.com> wrote:

    I have subscribed to Archive for many a year.
    Last year when Gavin Smith took over I sent my subscription to
    him using his name as the payee.

    This year I received with my last magazine with a slip saying that and I
    quote...

    "It is easy to resubscribe - plase turn over for payment methods."

    Not so using UK bank transfer is a totally different account with an IBAN
    number etc.

    However trying to pay Gavin this way I hit a major problem in that my bank >> requires the account name to fulfil their security protocol.

    Gavin has NOT provided this name and having sent an email to

    gavin at archivemag dot co dot uk

    I have not had a reply.

    Does anyone have an idea how to resolve this impasse?

    I suppose I could send a cheque to the address given but in this day and
    age why?

    Not clear what you are trying to do? are you outside the uk? if outside
    then IBAN is relevant, if you are paying UK bank to UK bank then all you
    need are sort code, account number and account name . All the info is on
    the web site for archive magazine, plus options for paypal and old
    fashioned cheque.

    Adrian


    Thank all who replied.
    I was trying to use Archive magazine as the account name thinking the
    change of bank was for business reasons as the original account seemed to
    be Gavin's personal account.

    --
    John Bryan

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  • From Russell Hafter News@21:1/5 to jrb.5026@gmail.com on Sat Feb 26 11:08:48 2022
    In article <672649bd59.John@jrb.5026.gmail.com>, John Bryan <jrb.5026@gmail.com> wrote:

    However trying to pay Gavin this way I hit a major
    problem in that my bank requires the account name to
    fulfil their security protocol.

    This name checking business has been appallingly badly
    implemented, made worse by the fact that there seems to be
    no standard implementation.

    I recently had the following nonsensical experience with
    Nationwide:-

    Bank: Please enter the name on the a/c:

    Me: xxx xxx xxx (West Oxfordshire) xxx

    Bank: Error! the following chracters may not be used in an
    a/c name - ( )

    Me: xxx xxx xxx /West Oxfordshire/ xxx (/ was on the
    permitted list)

    Bank: Error! The name almost matches. The actual name on the
    a/c is xxx xxx xxx (West Oxfordshire) xxx. Do you want to
    continue?

    Followied by the usual dire warnings.

    This sort of thing just brings the whole thing into
    disrepute and encourages people to ignore the checks.

    --
    Russell
    Russell Hafter
    E-mail to russell at russellhafter dot me dot uk
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  • From Russell Hafter News@21:1/5 to Hughes on Sat Feb 26 10:59:53 2022
    In article <f9165abd59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris
    Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    But you do not need to use IBAN unless you are overseas,
    i.e. outside the UK or channel islands

    True - but I wish we did use the IBAN, as IBANs include a
    checksum which catches most of the mis-types one may make.

    Many other countries, including Switzerland, switched to
    only using the IBAN years ago.

    --
    Russell
    Russell Hafter
    E-mail to russell at russellhafter dot me dot uk
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  • From charles@21:1/5 to Russell Hafter News on Sat Feb 26 12:33:23 2022
    In article <59c0c56b0esee.sig@russellhafter.me.invalid>,
    Russell Hafter News <see.sig@russellhafter.me.invalid> wrote:
    In article <672649bd59.John@jrb.5026.gmail.com>, John Bryan <jrb.5026@gmail.com> wrote:

    However trying to pay Gavin this way I hit a major
    problem in that my bank requires the account name to
    fulfil their security protocol.

    This name checking business has been appallingly badly
    implemented, made worse by the fact that there seems to be
    no standard implementation.

    I recently had the following nonsensical experience with
    Nationwide:-

    Bank: Please enter the name on the a/c:

    Me: xxx xxx xxx (West Oxfordshire) xxx

    Bank: Error! the following chracters may not be used in an
    a/c name - ( )

    Me: xxx xxx xxx /West Oxfordshire/ xxx (/ was on the
    permitted list)

    Bank: Error! The name almost matches. The actual name on the
    a/c is xxx xxx xxx (West Oxfordshire) xxx. Do you want to
    continue?

    Followied by the usual dire warnings.

    This sort of thing just brings the whole thing into
    disrepute and encourages people to ignore the checks.

    BUt, A charity, of which I am chairman, was making a significant donation
    to another charity. the email was intercepted and the recipients account details changed. This was 3 years ago, before all these checks. Luckily our bank smelt a rat and didn't make the transfer.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Russell Hafter News@21:1/5 to charles on Mon Feb 28 17:33:41 2022
    In article <59c0cd28f9charles@candehope.me.uk>,
    charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

    BUt, A charity, of which I am chairman, was making a
    significant donation to another charity. the email was
    intercepted and the recipients account details changed.
    This was 3 years ago, before all these checks. Luckily our
    bank smelt a rat and didn't make the transfer.

    Most banks give you no feedback at all. At least in the
    story I gave I did get some feedback.

    Had the system been in place at the time you describe, just
    telling you that the names did not match does not really
    help. If, though, you had got a message to say that the
    account was, say, in the name of Mr F Bl***s, you could have
    seen at once that there was a real problem. But if the
    non-match had simply been a matter of punctuation, you would
    probably have been prepared to go ahead?

    --
    Russell
    Russell Hafter
    E-mail to russell at russellhafter dot me dot uk
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