• RPi crash

    From Brian Jordan@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 9 13:10:17 2022
    First, apologies for posting via the web and the unusual email. I would appreciate any replies being addressed to brian.jordan9@btinternet.com.
    This afternoon I tried to download a large data file from Sine Nomine (the latest OSM data) using the Iris browser. The download hung with a 'no more disk space' error and Iris absented itself from the icon bar. Attempts to use other software gave disc
    space warnings so I shut the computer down.
    Now the computer hangs in the early stages of booting with the message 'SDFS::RISCOSpi.$.!Boot.Resources.!Scrap not found (Error number &D6), I am somewhat at a loss as to what to do.
    I don't have access to !Pluto and my windows Thunderbird only looks at my BT Internet address so I ask again that if you have any thoughts please post them there.

    Many thanks
    B

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  • From Doug Webb@21:1/5 to Brian Jordan on Mon Jan 10 11:51:21 2022
    In message <f526982c-72c1-4c47-a473-8761d4035468n@googlegroups.com>
    Brian Jordan <briandrood@gmail.com> wrote:

    The download hung with a 'no more disk space' error and Iris absented
    itself from the icon bar. Attempts to use other software gave disc space warnings so I shut the computer down.
    Now the computer hangs in the early stages of booting with the message 'SDFS::RISCOSpi.$.!Boot.Resources.!Scrap not found (Error number &D6), I
    am somewhat at a loss as to what to do.
    I don't have access to !Pluto and my windows Thunderbird only looks at my
    BT Internet address so I ask again that if you have any thoughts please
    post them there.

    Sounds like the download exhausted your available disc space.

    Try either repeatably hitting the escape key or holding the shift key on booting to bypass the boot sequence and then see if you get a minimal
    desktop or at a * prompt type desktop.

    Once in to the desktop check the disc space available and look in
    particular in !Scrap and delete the IRIS folder in !Boot.Resources.!Scrap.Scrapdirs.ScrapDir.WWW

    Hope this helps.


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    5.28.

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  • From Brian Jordan@21:1/5 to Doug Webb on Mon Jan 10 11:28:04 2022
    On Monday, 10 January 2022 at 11:51:24 UTC, Doug Webb wrote:
    In message <f526982c-72c1-4c47...@googlegroups.com>
    Brian Jordan <brian...@gmail.com> wrote:

    The download hung with a 'no more disk space' error and Iris absented itself from the icon bar. Attempts to use other software gave disc space warnings so I shut the computer down.
    Now the computer hangs in the early stages of booting with the message 'SDFS::RISCOSpi.$.!Boot.Resources.!Scrap not found (Error number &D6), I
    am somewhat at a loss as to what to do.
    I don't have access to !Pluto and my windows Thunderbird only looks at my BT Internet address so I ask again that if you have any thoughts please post them there.
    Sounds like the download exhausted your available disc space.

    Try either repeatably hitting the escape key or holding the shift key on booting to bypass the boot sequence and then see if you get a minimal
    desktop or at a * prompt type desktop.

    Once in to the desktop check the disc space available and look in
    particular in !Scrap and delete the IRIS folder in !Boot.Resources.!Scrap.Scrapdirs.ScrapDir.WWW

    Hope this helps.


    --
    Experience the future using ARM Technology - ARMBook,BeagleBoard -xM, PandaBoard,Raspberry Pi,iMX6/ARMX6,IGEPv5 & Titanium powered by RISC OS
    5.28.

    Thanks, this was indeed the problem. I have now got into the machine as you suggest and
    can confirm that !Scrap was the problem area. It seems that in the process of Iris writing a
    large file there some other files were affected, in particular !Boot, !Help, !Run, !Runimage and
    Messages.
    The blame is mine really for having kept the scrap system on the Micro SD card and not
    puting it on the large internal SSD. I still have some work to sort it all out but at least I'll be
    able to get the local quiz league results posted this evening! Better still I have got Pluto back
    so I can ditch this web based nonsense.
    Thanks again B

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  • From Brian Jordan@21:1/5 to Brian Jordan on Tue Jan 11 16:41:44 2022
    In article <f526982c-72c1-4c47-a473-8761d4035468n@googlegroups.com>,
    Brian Jordan <briandrood@gmail.com> wrote:
    First, apologies for posting via the web and the unusual email. I would appreciate any replies being addressed to brian.jordan9@btinternet.com.
    This afternoon I tried to download a large data file from Sine Nomine
    (the latest OSM data) using the Iris browser. The download hung with a
    'no more disk space' error and Iris absented itself from the icon bar. Attempts to use other software gave disc space warnings so I shut the computer down. Now the computer hangs in the early stages of booting
    with the message 'SDFS::RISCOSpi.$.!Boot.Resources.!Scrap not found
    (Error number &D6), I am somewhat at a loss as to what to do. I don't
    have access to !Pluto and my windows Thunderbird only looks at my BT
    Internet address so I ask again that if you have any thoughts please
    post them there.

    Thanks to all who replied, the problem, as several of you suggested, was
    an issue with !Scrap in that its !Boot, !Run and !Runimage files had disappeared. I'm still not sure how this happened and it may well be
    operator error. It has made me cautious about using the Iris browser with alignment exceptions OFF.
    I have replaced the missing files and all is now well.

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    Brian Jordan
    RISC OS 5.28 (19-Oct-20) on Raspberry Pi _____________________________________________________________________

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Brian Jordan on Tue Jan 11 17:26:16 2022
    In message <59a933726fbrian.jordan9@btinternet.com>
    Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

    In article <f526982c-72c1-4c47-a473-8761d4035468n@googlegroups.com>,
    Brian Jordan <briandrood@gmail.com> wrote:
    First, apologies for posting via the web and the unusual email. I would
    appreciate any replies being addressed to brian.jordan9@btinternet.com.
    This afternoon I tried to download a large data file from Sine Nomine
    (the latest OSM data) using the Iris browser. The download hung with a
    'no more disk space' error and Iris absented itself from the icon bar.
    Attempts to use other software gave disc space warnings so I shut the
    computer down. Now the computer hangs in the early stages of booting
    with the message 'SDFS::RISCOSpi.$.!Boot.Resources.!Scrap not found
    (Error number &D6), I am somewhat at a loss as to what to do. I don't
    have access to !Pluto and my windows Thunderbird only looks at my BT
    Internet address so I ask again that if you have any thoughts please
    post them there.

    Thanks to all who replied, the problem, as several of you suggested, was
    an issue with !Scrap in that its !Boot, !Run and !Runimage files had disappeared. I'm still not sure how this happened and it may well be
    operator error. It has made me cautious about using the Iris browser with alignment exceptions OFF.

    Its nothing to do with alignment exceptions OFF.

    The issue was because you simply ran out of disc space and this caused
    some corruption as a side effect.

    Run it all off your hopefully large SSD drive rather then your small
    SDCard will help reduce/prevent the issue in future.





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    Chris Hughes

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  • From Brian Jordan@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Tue Jan 11 17:50:17 2022
    In article <138637a959.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Its nothing to do with alignment exceptions OFF.

    The issue was because you simply ran out of disc space and this caused
    some corruption as a side effect.

    Run it all off your hopefully large SSD drive rather then your small
    SDCard will help reduce/prevent the issue in future.

    Thank you, I have now set everything up to do just that. Lesson learned.
    B

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    _____________________________________________________________________

    Brian Jordan
    RISC OS 5.28 (19-Oct-20) on Raspberry Pi _____________________________________________________________________

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to Brian Jordan on Tue Jan 11 18:47:25 2022
    In article <ac9ed6cd-f5a0-4ee6-8c4f-10b343030901n@googlegroups.com>,
    Brian Jordan <briandrood@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 10 January 2022 at 11:51:24 UTC, Doug Webb wrote:
    In message <f526982c-72c1-4c47...@googlegroups.com> Brian Jordan <brian...@gmail.com> wrote:

    The download hung with a 'no more disk space' error and Iris
    absented itself from the icon bar. Attempts to use other software
    gave disc space warnings so I shut the computer down. Now the
    computer hangs in the early stages of booting with the message 'SDFS::RISCOSpi.$.!Boot.Resources.!Scrap not found (Error number
    &D6), I am somewhat at a loss as to what to do. I don't have
    access to !Pluto and my windows Thunderbird only looks at my BT
    Internet address so I ask again that if you have any thoughts
    please post them there.
    Sounds like the download exhausted your available disc space.

    Try either repeatably hitting the escape key or holding the shift key
    on booting to bypass the boot sequence and then see if you get a
    minimal desktop or at a * prompt type desktop.

    Once in to the desktop check the disc space available and look in particular in !Scrap and delete the IRIS folder in !Boot.Resources.!Scrap.Scrapdirs.ScrapDir.WWW

    Somwhere on m RiscPC (not fired up at the moment) ISTR an app called !ScrapClean or something similar which does the job for you. It's a bit
    fierce so you have to be careful. Not sure if it's 32 bit compatible.

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From Frederick Bambrough@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Tue Jan 11 23:40:41 2022
    In message <59a93ef339cvjazz@waitrose.com>
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    In article <ac9ed6cd-f5a0-4ee6-8c4f-10b343030901n@googlegroups.com>,
    Brian Jordan <briandrood@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 10 January 2022 at 11:51:24 UTC, Doug Webb wrote:
    In message <f526982c-72c1-4c47...@googlegroups.com> Brian Jordan <brian...@gmail.com> wrote:

    The download hung with a 'no more disk space' error and Iris
    absented itself from the icon bar. Attempts to use other software
    gave disc space warnings so I shut the computer down. Now the
    computer hangs in the early stages of booting with the message 'SDFS::RISCOSpi.$.!Boot.Resources.!Scrap not found (Error number
    &D6), I am somewhat at a loss as to what to do. I don't have
    access to !Pluto and my windows Thunderbird only looks at my BT Internet address so I ask again that if you have any thoughts
    please post them there.
    Sounds like the download exhausted your available disc space.

    Try either repeatably hitting the escape key or holding the shift
    key on booting to bypass the boot sequence and then see if you get a minimal desktop or at a * prompt type desktop.

    Once in to the desktop check the disc space available and look in particular in !Scrap and delete the IRIS folder in !Boot.Resources.!Scrap.Scrapdirs.ScrapDir.WWW

    Somwhere on m RiscPC (not fired up at the moment) ISTR an app called !ScrapClean or something similar which does the job for you. It's a bit fierce so you have to be careful. Not sure if it's 32 bit compatible.

    By Chris Bell, running on my RPi.

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  • From Richard Ashbery@21:1/5 to Bambrough on Wed Jan 12 12:48:48 2022
    In article <mpro.r5kkft004oms700wr@ypical.nospam.invalid>, Frederick
    Bambrough <freddie@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

    Somwhere on m RiscPC (not fired up at the moment) ISTR an app
    called !ScrapClean or something similar which does the job for
    you. It's a bit fierce so you have to be careful. Not sure if
    it's 32 bit compatible.

    By Chris Bell, running on my RPi.

    Download: http://www.cornant.uk/riscos

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to Richard Ashbery on Wed Jan 12 13:03:03 2022
    In article <59a9a1f520basura@invalid.addr.uk>,
    Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
    In article <mpro.r5kkft004oms700wr@ypical.nospam.invalid>, Frederick Bambrough <freddie@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

    Somwhere on m RiscPC (not fired up at the moment) ISTR an app
    called !ScrapClean or something similar which does the job for
    you. It's a bit fierce so you have to be careful. Not sure if
    it's 32 bit compatible.

    By Chris Bell, running on my RPi.

    Download: http://www.cornant.uk/riscos

    I knew someone would remember. Ta.

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    Chris Newman

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