• Buffer overflow

    From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 4 22:57:21 2021
    Hi,

    Some applications on my Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28 give "Buffer
    overflow" and exit or won't load. ChatCube is one.

    I'm sure I have to alot more memory. Is it the Next slot?
    Or do I have to do something else?

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From Ian@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Sun Sep 5 05:12:24 2021
    On Sat, 04 Sep 2021 22:57:21 +0100
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:



    Some applications on my Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28 give "Buffer
    overflow" and exit or won't load. ChatCube is one.

    I'm sure I have to alot more memory. Is it the Next slot?
    Or do I have to do something else?


    Check for faulty fonts.

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  • From Paul Sprangers@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Sun Sep 5 15:55:31 2021
    In article <5966e1816dcvjazz@waitrose.com>,
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    Some applications on my Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28 give "Buffer
    overflow" and exit or won't load. ChatCube is one.

    My experience is that this error is generated by the font manager,
    typically when too many font directories are selected. Or perhaps, as Ian suggested, when a font directory contains a faulty font.

    Kind regards,
    Paul Sprangers

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 5 20:46:30 2021
    In article <5967393a77Paul@sprie.nl>, Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl>
    wrote:
    In article <5966e1816dcvjazz@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
    <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    Some applications on my Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28 give "Buffer
    overflow" and exit or won't load. ChatCube is one.

    My experience is that this error is generated by the font manager,
    typically when too many font directories are selected. Or perhaps, as
    Ian suggested, when a font directory contains a faulty font.

    Thanks to you and Ian. Methinks you are right. I tried to start examining
    the fonts I have in !Fontastic and got the Buffer overflow error. All I
    have to do now is locate the culprit.

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From Chris Craig@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Mon Sep 6 09:32:06 2021
    In message <5967595cd8cvjazz@waitrose.com>
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    In article <5967393a77Paul@sprie.nl>, Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl>
    wrote:
    In article <5966e1816dcvjazz@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
    <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    Some applications on my Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28 give "Buffer
    overflow" and exit or won't load. ChatCube is one.

    My experience is that this error is generated by the font manager,
    typically when too many font directories are selected. Or perhaps, as
    Ian suggested, when a font directory contains a faulty font.

    Thanks to you and Ian. Methinks you are right. I tried to start examining
    the fonts I have in !Fontastic and got the Buffer overflow error. All I
    have to do now is locate the culprit.

    --
    Chris Newman

    Not sure how to proceed. How do I check Fonts and what faults am I looking for??

    Chris
    --
    chris.j.craig@btinternet.com
    ARMX6 RISC OS 5.29
    ---

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to chris.j.craig@btinternet.com on Mon Sep 6 11:50:14 2021
    In article <9e749f6759.Chris@btinternet.com>, Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:
    In message <5967595cd8cvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
    <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    In article <5967393a77Paul@sprie.nl>, Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl>
    wrote:
    In article <5966e1816dcvjazz@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
    <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    Some applications on my Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28 give "Buffer
    overflow" and exit or won't load. ChatCube is one.

    My experience is that this error is generated by the font manager,
    typically when too many font directories are selected. Or perhaps,
    as Ian suggested, when a font directory contains a faulty font.

    Thanks to you and Ian. Methinks you are right. I tried to start
    examining the fonts I have in !Fontastic and got the Buffer overflow
    error. All I have to do now is locate the culprit.

    -- Chris Newman

    Not sure how to proceed. How do I check Fonts and what faults am I
    looking for??

    Chris

    Ah! Two Chris's. That'll confuse.

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Chris Craig on Mon Sep 6 19:53:43 2021
    In article <9e749f6759.Chris@btinternet.com>,
    Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Not sure how to proceed. How do I check Fonts and what faults am I
    looking for??

    Chris

    A few years ago I was having trouble with EasyFont Pro, so I tried
    changing to another Font manager and that also gave trouble... Making
    dodgy fonts the obvious culprit.

    I tried out a couple of idea to check the fonts, but in the end I did it
    the hard way.

    I created an Ovation Pro file.

    I created a piece of illustrative text.

    Example:

    Font name size used EFP group
    -----------------------------------
    Acute 18point Group Scripts

    Type in all the Capitals, all the lower case, all numerics, and the rest
    of the keys. It needs to be 16 or 18 point to see if the fonts display correctly. (17 pages worth).

    I copied and pasted this multiple times.

    Selected a block and applied the Font to it.

    Selected the next block and applied the next font to it.

    And so on...


    In the first instance, scrolling up and down in OvPro would often show a
    dodgy font... When it was reached in the re-display it often wouldn't and
    the scroll was stopped.

    Make a note of the font that should have displayed.

    Now print the document, and again this would show dodgy fonts.

    I forget now how many dodgy fonts I excised, but it was quite a number.

    Having subsequently removed the dodgy fonts from EFP it became a more
    stable beast.

    It was a lot of work, but I'm glad I did it. :-)

    Dave

    --

    Dave Triffid

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 6 21:08:22 2021
    In article <9e749f6759.Chris@btinternet.com>,
    Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Not sure how to proceed. How do I check Fonts and what faults am I
    looking for??

    Chris

    While we are on the checking Fonts business.

    I noticed recently while checking my own set of Fonts, a few of them have IntMetric0 and Outlines0 files instead of the usual files sans the 0.

    What's that all about?

    Thanks

    Dave

    --

    Dave Triffid

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  • From Barry Ould@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Thu Sep 16 01:55:58 2021
    On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 10:58:10 PM UTC+1, Chris Newman wrote:
    Hi,

    Some applications on my Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28 give "Buffer
    overflow" and exit or won't load. ChatCube is one.

    I'm sure I have to alot more memory. Is it the Next slot?
    Or do I have to do something else?

    --
    Chris Newman

    Hi,

    Can anyone in your group help me with a software technical issue? I am trying to move a programme (Sibelius 7 on Risc PC) back to the installation disc which is normal when changing computers. However, every time I try to move the icon back to the
    floppy disc it tells me the programme is locked to protect the computer. Do you know how I can 'unlock' it?

    Many thanks for any info you can give me.

    Best wishes,

    Barry Peter Ould

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  • From Jean-Michel@21:1/5 to Barry Ould on Thu Sep 16 13:07:17 2021
    In message <0d0988a1-9ba7-44e6-9fcc-e4428b109660n@googlegroups.com>
    Barry Ould <barry@percygrainger.org> wrote:

    On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 10:58:10 PM UTC+1, Chris Newman wrote:
    Hi,

    Some applications on my Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28 give "Buffer
    overflow" and exit or won't load. ChatCube is one.

    I'm sure I have to alot more memory. Is it the Next slot?
    Or do I have to do something else?

    --
    Chris Newman

    Hi,

    Can anyone in your group help me with a software technical issue? I am trying to move a programme (Sibelius 7 on Risc PC) back to the
    installation disc which is normal when changing computers. However, every time I try to move the icon back to the floppy disc it tells me the
    programme is locked to protect the computer. Do you know how I can
    'unlock' it?

    Many thanks for any info you can give me.

    Best wishes,

    Barry Peter Ould

    may the disk be write-protected?

    --
    Jean-Michel

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Barry Ould on Fri Sep 17 18:52:02 2021
    In message <0d0988a1-9ba7-44e6-9fcc-e4428b109660n@googlegroups.com>
    Barry Ould <barry@percygrainger.org> wrote:

    On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 10:58:10 PM UTC+1, Chris Newman wrote:
    Hi,

    Some applications on my Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28 give "Buffer
    overflow" and exit or won't load. ChatCube is one.

    I'm sure I have to alot more memory. Is it the Next slot?
    Or do I have to do something else?

    --
    Chris Newman

    Hi,

    Can anyone in your group help me with a software technical issue? I am trying to move a programme (Sibelius 7 on Risc PC) back to the
    installation disc which is normal when changing computers. However, every time I try to move the icon back to the floppy disc it tells me the
    programme is locked to protect the computer. Do you know how I can
    'unlock' it?

    Have you checked the write protect tab on the floppy disc?



    --
    Chris Hughes

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 17 19:55:17 2021
    In article <d0e97c6d59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes


    Hi,

    Can anyone in your group help me with a software technical issue? I
    am trying to move a programme (Sibelius 7 on Risc PC) back to the installation disc which is normal when changing computers. However,
    every time I try to move the icon back to the floppy disc it tells me
    the programme is locked to protect the computer. Do you know how I
    can 'unlock' it?

    Have you checked the write protect tab on the floppy disc?

    Just checking my memory. Is open protected & closed writeable. It's been
    a long time.

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From Barry Ould@21:1/5 to Jean-Michel on Fri Sep 17 11:59:33 2021
    On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 12:07:29 PM UTC+1, Jean-Michel wrote:
    In message <0d0988a1-9ba7-44e6...@googlegroups.com>
    Barry Ould <ba...@percygrainger.org> wrote:

    On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 10:58:10 PM UTC+1, Chris Newman wrote:
    Hi,

    Some applications on my Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28 give "Buffer
    overflow" and exit or won't load. ChatCube is one.

    I'm sure I have to alot more memory. Is it the Next slot?
    Or do I have to do something else?

    --
    Chris Newman

    Hi,

    Can anyone in your group help me with a software technical issue? I am trying to move a programme (Sibelius 7 on Risc PC) back to the installation disc which is normal when changing computers. However, every time I try to move the icon back to the floppy disc it tells me the programme is locked to protect the computer. Do you know how I can 'unlock' it?

    Many thanks for any info you can give me.

    Best wishes,

    Barry Peter Ould
    may the disk be write-protected?

    --
    Jean-Michel

    Thanks for your quick reply to my query.

    The floppy installation disc is not locked. It is the programme on the desktop that gives the locked message when trying to move the icon back to the floppy installation disc.

    The Sibelius programme was designed to be moved back and forth to the floppy installation disc especially when updating the programme. The message seems to intimate that either the programme is locked on the hard drive or the hard dive is locked and I
    am not sure how to unlock it? I need to access some old Sibelius 7 files in order to update them and then import into Sibelius 5 on a PC.

    It's very frustrating.

    Any advice would be welcome.

    Many thanks,

    Barry Peter Ould

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  • From J Peachey@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Fri Sep 17 20:33:46 2021
    In message <596d82b455cvjazz@waitrose.com>
    Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    In article <d0e97c6d59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes


    Hi,

    Can anyone in your group help me with a software technical issue? I
    am trying to move a programme (Sibelius 7 on Risc PC) back to the
    installation disc which is normal when changing computers. However,
    every time I try to move the icon back to the floppy disc it tells me
    the programme is locked to protect the computer. Do you know how I
    can 'unlock' it?

    Have you checked the write protect tab on the floppy disc?

    Just checking my memory. Is open protected & closed writeable. It's been
    a long time.

    Open is write enable, closed write protect. Thank goodness I fouud a
    floppy with a label with this on!


    --
    _________________________________________
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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to Barry Ould on Fri Sep 17 21:38:43 2021
    In article <c2808ca9-cd35-4cc8-9ce3-81232c7d6201n@googlegroups.com>,
    Barry Ould <barry@percygrainger.org> wrote:


    Can anyone in your group help me with a software technical issue? I
    am trying to move a programme (Sibelius 7 on Risc PC) back to the installation disc which is normal when changing computers. However,
    every time I try to move the icon back to the floppy disc it tells
    me the programme is locked to protect the computer. Do you know
    how I can 'unlock' it?


    The floppy installation disc is not locked. It is the programme on the desktop that gives the locked message when trying to move the icon back
    to the floppy installation disc.

    The Sibelius programme was designed to be moved back and forth to the
    floppy installation disc especially when updating the programme. The
    message seems to intimate that either the programme is locked on the
    hard drive or the hard dive is locked and I am not sure how to unlock
    it? I need to access some old Sibelius 7 files in order to update them
    and then import into Sibelius 5 on a PC.

    Two things.

    There is a sneaky way of loading a copy of Sibelius on to the Risc
    machine but leaving a copy on the installation disc. (I didn't say that.
    You haven't heard it from me!) Are you sure that hasn't been done and
    there is still a copy on your floppy?

    Is the Sibelius 5 a RISC OS version or the Windows version of Sibelius?

    I have a sneaking suspicion that you don't need the programme. Just take
    the files to your Windows PC. The earlier versions of the Windows
    Sibelius recognised the RISC OS versions in some way so you could import
    them. Is that in your documentation anywhere?

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to john@jpeachey.co.uk on Fri Sep 17 21:26:39 2021
    In article <6c3a866d59.john@user.orpheusmail.co.uk>, J Peachey <john@jpeachey.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <596d82b455cvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
    <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    In article <d0e97c6d59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes


    Hi,

    Can anyone in your group help me with a software technical issue?
    I am trying to move a programme (Sibelius 7 on Risc PC) back to the
    installation disc which is normal when changing computers.
    However, every time I try to move the icon back to the floppy disc
    it tells me the programme is locked to protect the computer. Do
    you know how I can 'unlock' it?

    Have you checked the write protect tab on the floppy disc?

    Just checking my memory. Is open protected & closed writeable. It's
    been a long time.

    Open is write enable, closed write protect. Thank goodness I fouud a
    floppy with a label with this on!

    Au contraire?

    Just found this in my old RISC OS 3 User Guide p41.

    "You can remove the write protection by sliding the small tab at one
    corner of the disc so that the hole is blocked off."

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From Barry Ould@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Fri Sep 17 14:01:34 2021
    On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 9:38:58 PM UTC+1, Chris Newman wrote:
    In article <c2808ca9-cd35-4cc8...@googlegroups.com>,
    Barry Ould <ba...@percygrainger.org> wrote:


    Can anyone in your group help me with a software technical issue? I
    am trying to move a programme (Sibelius 7 on Risc PC) back to the installation disc which is normal when changing computers. However, every time I try to move the icon back to the floppy disc it tells
    me the programme is locked to protect the computer. Do you know
    how I can 'unlock' it?
    The floppy installation disc is not locked. It is the programme on the desktop that gives the locked message when trying to move the icon back
    to the floppy installation disc.

    The Sibelius programme was designed to be moved back and forth to the floppy installation disc especially when updating the programme. The message seems to intimate that either the programme is locked on the
    hard drive or the hard dive is locked and I am not sure how to unlock
    it? I need to access some old Sibelius 7 files in order to update them
    and then import into Sibelius 5 on a PC.
    Two things.

    There is a sneaky way of loading a copy of Sibelius on to the Risc
    machine but leaving a copy on the installation disc. (I didn't say that.
    You haven't heard it from me!) Are you sure that hasn't been done and
    there is still a copy on your floppy?

    Is the Sibelius 5 a RISC OS version or the Windows version of Sibelius?

    I have a sneaking suspicion that you don't need the programme. Just take
    the files to your Windows PC. The earlier versions of the Windows
    Sibelius recognised the RISC OS versions in some way so you could import them. Is that in your documentation anywhere?

    --
    Chris Newman


    The whole point is that I cannot move the programme back to the floppy installation disc so the programme is not on the floppy as the installation window is greyed out! I know all about floppy discs as I have been using them for years firstly on an old
    Macintosh then a Risc PC600 and Risc A4000 then on a Macintosh Performa. The floppy disc is not the problem!

    I have Sibelius 7 version 3.05 on the Rich PC600 some of which I can import into PC Sibelius 4 or 5. The Sibelius 4 and 5 are for PC only and were the last version of the PC versions of Sibelius that allowed you to import files created on the Risc PC
    versions but they had to be updated to version 3.5 to work. I have the updater for making my version updated to version 3.5. but for this to work, you have to de-install the Sib7 Risc version from the Risc PC back to the floppy installation disc. This
    is where my problem is as I cannot move the programme back to the floppy as it states the programme is locked on the hard drive and cannot be moved to protect the computer! The solution must be quite simple but I just cannot think what it can be!

    I have been using Sibelius from the beginning of its life i.e. Sib7 for Risc PCs through to PC versions 1 - Ultimate 2021. I do not do any work on the Risc PC version nowadays but have it because of all the old files of music of which some need to be
    imported into the PC versions 4 or 5 Sibelius. The problem is not the programme itself but the fact that I cannot de-install it in order to update it because it is locked!

    Thanks.

    Barry Ould

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  • From Tim Hill@21:1/5 to john@jpeachey.co.uk on Fri Sep 17 21:21:31 2021
    In article <6c3a866d59.john@user.orpheusmail.co.uk>, J Peachey <john@jpeachey.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <596d82b455cvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
    <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Just checking my memory. Is open protected & closed writeable. It's
    been a long time.

    Open is write enable, closed write protect. Thank goodness I fouud a
    floppy with a label with this on!

    For anyone who ever wondered why this is the opposite behaviour of audio
    and video cassettes, the 3.5" floppy inherited this behaviour from 5.25" floppies which had a notch over which you placed a sticker to enable
    write protection.

    --
    from Tim Hill who welcomes incoming email to tim at timil dot com.
    * Ethical? Energy: http://tjrh.eu/coopnrg Telecoms: http://tjrh.eu/phone
    * Have a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/
    * RISC OS downloads http://timil.com/riscos

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  • From Tim Hill@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 17 21:51:58 2021
    In article <596d8a999atim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
    wrote:
    In article <6c3a866d59.john@user.orpheusmail.co.uk>, J Peachey <john@jpeachey.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <596d82b455cvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
    <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Just checking my memory. Is open protected & closed writeable. It's
    been a long time.

    Open is write enable, closed write protect. Thank goodness I fouud a
    floppy with a label with this on!

    For anyone who ever wondered why this is the opposite behaviour of
    audio and video cassettes, the 3.5" floppy inherited this behaviour
    from 5.25" floppies which had a notch over which you placed a sticker
    to enable write protection.

    Wait, no, it's only 5.25" floppies which had it backwards. 3.5" floppies
    are open to write protect them.

    --
    from Tim Hill who welcomes incoming email to tim at timil dot com.
    * Ethical? Energy: http://tjrh.eu/coopnrg Telecoms: http://tjrh.eu/phone
    * Have a genuine & spam-proof address for Usenet http://www.invalid.org.uk/
    * RISC OS downloads http://timil.com/riscos

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Barry Ould on Fri Sep 17 23:08:54 2021
    In message <97b2229d-9448-46f3-b772-72001a6ed151n@googlegroups.com>
    Barry Ould <barry@percygrainger.org> wrote:

    On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 9:38:58 PM UTC+1, Chris Newman wrote:
    In article <c2808ca9-cd35-4cc8...@googlegroups.com>,
    Barry Ould <ba...@percygrainger.org> wrote:


    Can anyone in your group help me with a software technical issue? I
    am trying to move a programme (Sibelius 7 on Risc PC) back to the
    installation disc which is normal when changing computers. However,
    every time I try to move the icon back to the floppy disc it tells
    me the programme is locked to protect the computer. Do you know
    how I can 'unlock' it?
    The floppy installation disc is not locked. It is the programme on the
    desktop that gives the locked message when trying to move the icon back
    to the floppy installation disc.

    The Sibelius programme was designed to be moved back and forth to the
    floppy installation disc especially when updating the programme. The
    message seems to intimate that either the programme is locked on the
    hard drive or the hard dive is locked and I am not sure how to unlock
    it? I need to access some old Sibelius 7 files in order to update them
    and then import into Sibelius 5 on a PC.
    Two things.

    There is a sneaky way of loading a copy of Sibelius on to the Risc
    machine but leaving a copy on the installation disc. (I didn't say that.
    You haven't heard it from me!) Are you sure that hasn't been done and
    there is still a copy on your floppy?

    Is the Sibelius 5 a RISC OS version or the Windows version of Sibelius?

    I have a sneaking suspicion that you don't need the programme. Just take
    the files to your Windows PC. The earlier versions of the Windows
    Sibelius recognised the RISC OS versions in some way so you could import
    them. Is that in your documentation anywhere?

    --
    Chris Newman


    The whole point is that I cannot move the programme back to the floppy installation disc so the programme is not on the floppy as the
    installation window is greyed out! I know all about floppy discs as I
    have been using them for years firstly on an old Macintosh then a Risc
    PC600 and Risc A4000 then on a Macintosh Performa. The floppy disc is not the problem!

    I have Sibelius 7 version 3.05 on the Rich PC600 some of which I can
    import into PC Sibelius 4 or 5. The Sibelius 4 and 5 are for PC only and were the last version of the PC versions of Sibelius that allowed you to import files created on the Risc PC versions but they had to be updated to version 3.5 to work. I have the updater for making my version updated to version 3.5. but for this to work, you have to de-install the Sib7 Risc version from the Risc PC back to the floppy installation disc. This is
    where my problem is as I cannot move the programme back to the floppy as
    it states the programme is locked on the hard drive and cannot be moved to protect the computer! The solution must be quite simple but I just cannot think what it can be!

    I have been using Sibelius from the beginning of its life i.e. Sib7 for
    Risc PCs through to PC versions 1 - Ultimate 2021. I do not do any work
    on the Risc PC version nowadays but have it because of all the old files
    of music of which some need to be imported into the PC versions 4 or 5 Sibelius. The problem is not the programme itself but the fact that I
    cannot de-install it in order to update it because it is locked!

    This is just an idea (but don't blame me if it messes things up).

    Press Menu over the program in the filer window and then go to App 'Sib7'
    and follow arrow to right and then goto the 'Acess' entry and see what it
    tells you.

    Let us know, don't change anything at this point.



    --
    Chris Hughes

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  • From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to Barry Ould on Fri Sep 17 23:50:54 2021
    On 17 Sep 2021 as I do recall,
    Barry Ould wrote:

    I have Sibelius 7 version 3.05 on the Rich PC600 some of which I can
    import into PC Sibelius 4 or 5. The Sibelius 4 and 5 are for PC only
    and were the last version of the PC versions of Sibelius that allowed
    you to import files created on the Risc PC versions but they had to be updated to version 3.5 to work. I have the updater for making my
    version updated to version 3.5. but for this to work, you have to
    de-install the Sib7 Risc version from the Risc PC back to the floppy installation disc.

    Would it be possible for you to send the files to someone who has an
    updated copy of Sibelius 7 and who could load the v3.05 files and save
    them out as v3.5 for you?


    --
    Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

    In the end, winning is the only safety.

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to Harriet Bazley on Sat Sep 18 13:35:55 2021
    In article <7846986d59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
    On 17 Sep 2021 as I do recall,
    Barry Ould wrote:

    I have Sibelius 7 version 3.05 on the Rich PC600 some of which I can
    import into PC Sibelius 4 or 5. The Sibelius 4 and 5 are for PC only
    and were the last version of the PC versions of Sibelius that allowed
    you to import files created on the Risc PC versions but they had to be updated to version 3.5 to work. I have the updater for making my
    version updated to version 3.5. but for this to work, you have to de-install the Sib7 Risc version from the Risc PC back to the floppy installation disc.

    Would it be possible for you to send the files to someone who has an
    updated copy of Sibelius 7 and who could load the v3.05 files and save
    them out as v3.5 for you?

    I have Sibelius 3.52 (Dec '97). "Save" just gives the one option so am I
    to presume it will load v3.05 files then save them in the new format. If
    so I can do that for you, Barry, which will get you over the problem till
    you sort your locked version.

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    Chris Newman

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  • From Barry Ould@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Sat Sep 18 05:51:07 2021
    On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 1:36:02 PM UTC+1, Chris Newman wrote:
    In article <7846986d5...@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
    Harriet Bazley <har...@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
    On 17 Sep 2021 as I do recall,
    Barry Ould wrote:

    I have Sibelius 7 version 3.05 on the Rich PC600 some of which I can import into PC Sibelius 4 or 5. The Sibelius 4 and 5 are for PC only
    and were the last version of the PC versions of Sibelius that allowed
    you to import files created on the Risc PC versions but they had to be updated to version 3.5 to work. I have the updater for making my
    version updated to version 3.5. but for this to work, you have to de-install the Sib7 Risc version from the Risc PC back to the floppy installation disc.

    Would it be possible for you to send the files to someone who has an updated copy of Sibelius 7 and who could load the v3.05 files and save
    them out as v3.5 for you?
    I have Sibelius 3.52 (Dec '97). "Save" just gives the one option so am I
    to presume it will load v3.05 files then save them in the new format. If
    so I can do that for you, Barry, which will get you over the problem till
    you sort your locked version.

    --
    Chris Newman

    Many thanks Chris, that would be a great help. At the moment, it's just 5 files that need converting to 3.5 or 3.52.

    How do I get them to you as they'll have to be copied to a floppy disc.

    Can we correspond separately to this forum? I'm located in Huntly, Aberdeenshire.

    You can email me at bipo@post.com? If you can let me have your phone number we can talk about this.

    Many thanks and I look forward to hearing from you.

    Best wishes,

    Barry

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 18 13:58:17 2021
    In article <f7ece770-256d-4f3f-b2ef-fc61c18682d0n@googlegroups.com>,

    I have Sibelius 3.52 (Dec '97). "Save" just gives the one option so
    am I to presume it will load v3.05 files then save them in the new
    format. If so I can do that for you, Barry, which will get you over
    the problem till you sort your locked version.

    -- Chris Newman

    Many thanks Chris, that would be a great help. At the moment, it's
    just 5 files that need converting to 3.5 or 3.52.

    How do I get them to you as they'll have to be copied to a floppy disc.

    Can we correspond separately to this forum? I'm located in Huntly, Aberdeenshire.

    You can email me at bipo@post.com? If you can let me have your phone
    number we can talk about this.

    If they are on your RiscPC, can you not put them in a zip file on that
    machine & email them to me. I can then load them on my RiscPC. If they
    are big, one zip file at a time.

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    Chris Newman

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  • From Alan Griffin@21:1/5 to tim@invalid.org.uk on Fri Sep 17 22:21:47 2021
    In article <596d8a999atim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill
    <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
    Just checking my memory. Is open protected & closed writeable.
    It's been a long time.

    Open is write enable, closed write protect. Thank goodness I fouud
    a floppy with a label with this on!

    For anyone who ever wondered why this is the opposite behaviour of
    audio and video cassettes, the 3.5" floppy inherited this behaviour
    from 5.25" floppies which had a notch over which you placed a sticker
    to enable write protection.

    It's not the opposite behaviour!
    He's got it wrong.

    Open is write protected.
    Closed is write enabled

    I've just checked on a floppy.

    On audio and video cassettes there is a tab.
    If it is there, it is write enabled.
    If you snap it off it is write protected.

    Alan

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  • From Jean-Michel@21:1/5 to Barry Ould on Sat Sep 18 18:04:30 2021
    In message <c2808ca9-cd35-4cc8-9ce3-81232c7d6201n@googlegroups.com>
    Barry Ould <barry@percygrainger.org> wrote:

    On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 12:07:29 PM UTC+1, Jean-Michel wrote:
    In message <0d0988a1-9ba7-44e6...@googlegroups.com>
    Barry Ould <ba...@percygrainger.org> wrote:

    On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 10:58:10 PM UTC+1, Chris Newman wrote: >>>> Hi,

    Some applications on my Raspberry Pi4 RISC OS 5.28 give "Buffer
    overflow" and exit or won't load. ChatCube is one.

    I'm sure I have to alot more memory. Is it the Next slot?
    Or do I have to do something else?

    --
    Chris Newman

    Hi,

    Can anyone in your group help me with a software technical issue? I am
    trying to move a programme (Sibelius 7 on Risc PC) back to the
    installation disc which is normal when changing computers. However, every >>> time I try to move the icon back to the floppy disc it tells me the
    programme is locked to protect the computer. Do you know how I can
    'unlock' it?

    Many thanks for any info you can give me.

    Best wishes,

    Barry Peter Ould
    may the disk be write-protected?

    --
    Jean-Michel

    Thanks for your quick reply to my query.

    The floppy installation disc is not locked. It is the programme on the desktop that gives the locked message when trying to move the icon back to the floppy installation disc.
    I agree the message would be " disc is write protected"

    If the files were locked you would get an 'item locked' message.
    Can you specify the message you get.
    This is to know if it is a message from RISC OS or from Sibelius.

    just an idea ...
    The message you are quoting looks like an antivirus message!

    The Sibelius programme was designed to be moved back and forth to the
    floppy installation disc especially when updating the programme. The
    message seems to intimate that either the programme is locked on the hard drive or the hard dive is locked and I am not sure how to unlock it? I
    need to access some old Sibelius 7 files in order to update them and then import into Sibelius 5 on a PC.

    I have Sibelius 7 on my RPC, nice.
    (I am testing Rhapsody4 on my ARMX6, it's not Sibelius.)

    It's very frustrating.

    Any advice would be welcome.

    Many thanks,

    Barry Peter Ould


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    Jean-Michel

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  • From Tim Hill@21:1/5 to ajg@argonet.co.uk on Sun Sep 19 21:17:20 2021
    In article <596d901de3ajg@argonet.co.uk>, Alan Griffin
    <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
    On audio and video cassettes there is a tab. If it is there, it is
    write enabled. If you snap it off it is write protected.

    Yes, I was thinking of 5.25" disks as I said elsewhere. I remember
    software updates arriving on 5.25" which, once obsolete, we used to cut
    notches in them to be able to write to them. The controversy was 3.5"
    disks being the opposite and not as I misremembered.

    T

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