I am looking for a fast RO computer for internet browsing.
I thought I saw recently a post suggesting that a Pi4 was currently the fastest (readilly affordable) RO machine,is that so?
In message <5958300cbfSpambin@argonet.co.uk>
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
I am looking for a fast RO computer for internet browsing.
I thought I saw recently a post suggesting that a Pi4 was currently the fastest (readilly affordable) RO machine,is that so?
yep I believe so. Take a look at the "FOURtress" from RISCOSBits its
runs at 2.1Ghz
http://www.pihard.co.uk/shop.htm
http://www.pihard.co.uk/fourtress.htm
R-Comp are doing the 4te https://www.riscoscomputers.co.uk/4te.shtml
I am also looking at them, myself.
I thought I saw recently a post suggesting that a Pi4 was currently the fastest (readilly affordable) RO machine,is that so?
I'd been looking at the PiRo which says it can run at up to 2.1G and wondering what is required to run at that speed.
I'd been looking at the PiRo which says it can run at up to 2.1G and wondering what is required to run at that speed.
The RISCOSbits stuff runs at that speed, too, doesn't it?
On 7 Aug, Stuart wrote in message
<59583ae551Spambin@argonet.co.uk>:
I'd been looking at the PiRo which says it can run at up to 2.1G and
wondering what is required to run at that speed.
The RISCOSbits stuff runs at that speed, too, doesn't it?
There's probably not much more information that you've already got from this thread, but WROCC try to keep this page up to date with outline details of who has what available (we leave it up to the linked company sites to tell you what is actually on offer):
https://www.wrocc.org.uk/risc-os/a-guide-to-risc-os-hardware
In article <2569355859.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
In message <5958300cbfSpambin@argonet.co.uk>
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
I am looking for a fast RO computer for internet browsing.
I thought I saw recently a post suggesting that a Pi4 was currently the
fastest (readilly affordable) RO machine,is that so?
yep I believe so. Take a look at the "FOURtress" from RISCOSBits its
runs at 2.1Ghz
http://www.pihard.co.uk/shop.htm
http://www.pihard.co.uk/fourtress.htm
R-Comp are doing the 4te https://www.riscoscomputers.co.uk/4te.shtml
I am also looking at them, myself.
The real requirement is to run Iris at a more useable speed.
I'd been looking at the range from RISCOS bits but hadn't checked out
R-Comp. I'm afraid R-Comp's price rules it out straightway.
I'd been looking at the PiRo which says it can run at up to 2.1G and wondering what is required to run at that speed.
I'd been thinking about the often used system of something simple hanging
on the VESA mount on the back of the monitor, with keyboard, mouse and network connection
The PiRo IS from RISCOSBits
I am looking for a fast RO computer for internet browsing.
I thought I saw recently a post suggesting that a Pi4 was currently the fastest (readilly affordable) RO machine,is that so?
In article <5958300cbfSpambin@argonet.co.uk>,
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
I am looking for a fast RO computer for internet browsing.
Most generally need a decent browser too for that. That offers all the
plug ins and add ons that most expect. Not sure such a thing exists for
RO.
How are you comparing prices? They all have different specs.
The nearest is !Iris, which has most of the modern stuff except for
videos. I use nearly all the time now (hardly use the browser on the PC
now since I got !Iris ) Its still being developed.
Me too! Some frustrations with slow loads but generally good
In article <5958d356b8brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:
Me too! Some frustrations with slow loads but generally good
Hence my request but a Pi4 running at 2.1G should help.
I just wish I could find that post which mentioned speeds, which I thought was by Druck, but I can't.
In article <79a2cd5859.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
The nearest is !Iris, which has most of the modern stuff except for
videos. I use nearly all the time now (hardly use the browser on the PC
now since I got !Iris ) Its still being developed.
Me too! Some frustrations with slow loads but generally good.
One irritation is that some sites refuse to play with !Iris with 'Access denied' messages, www.airbnb.co.uk being one that comes to mind.
In article <5958d356b8brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:
Me too! Some frustrations with slow loads but generally good
Hence my request but a Pi4 running at 2.1G should help.
I just wish I could find that post which mentioned speeds, which I thought was by Druck, but I can't.
On 08/08/2021 16:22, Stuart wrote:
In article <5958d356b8brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:
Me too! Some frustrations with slow loads but generally good
Hence my request but a Pi4 running at 2.1G should help.
I just wish I could find that post which mentioned speeds, which I thought >> was by Druck, but I can't.
The Pi 4 is pretty much the all round fastest machine, and great for
RISC OS applications. But I would not recommend it for web browsing from
RISC OS, we just don't have a good enough browsers, or crucially, a good enough OS to make full use the hardware. If you want to web browse, put
Linux or Android on it.
On 08/08/2021 16:22, Stuart wrote:
In article <5958d356b8brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:
Me too! Some frustrations with slow loads but generally good
Hence my request but a Pi4 running at 2.1G should help.
I just wish I could find that post which mentioned speeds, which I
thought was by Druck, but I can't.
The Pi 4 is pretty much the all round fastest machine, and great for
RISC OS applications. But I would not recommend it for web browsing from
RISC OS, we just don't have a good enough browsers, or crucially, a good enough OS to make full use the hardware. If you want to web browse, put
Linux or Android on i
!Iris is pretty up to date and can access majority of sites. (its
can't do videos), but has Javascript, CSS, HTML5 etc..
I now rarely use my PC's browser, since starting to use Iris.
Iris is being developed all the time, etc.
In article <ce6e355959.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
!Iris is pretty up to date and can access majority of sites. (its
can't do videos), but has Javascript, CSS, HTML5 etc..
I now rarely use my PC's browser, since starting to use Iris.
Iris is being developed all the time, etc.
Chris, what's your version please?
In message <sepomk$vib$1@dont-email.me>
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
The Pi 4 is pretty much the all round fastest machine, and great for
RISC OS applications. But I would not recommend it for web browsing from
RISC OS, we just don't have a good enough browsers, or crucially, a good
enough OS to make full use the hardware. If you want to web browse, put
Linux or Android on it.
Sorry Druck, but I would have to disagree with you, have you used !Iris ?
!Iris is pretty up to date and can access majority of sites. (its can't do videos), but has Javascript, CSS, HTML5 etc..
I now rarely use my PC's browser, since starting to use Iris.
Iris is being developed all the time, etc.
In message <59596018afbasura@invalid.addr.uk>
Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
In article <ce6e355959.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
!Iris is pretty up to date and can access majority of sites. (its
can't do videos), but has Javascript, CSS, HTML5 etc..
I now rarely use my PC's browser, since starting to use Iris.
Iris is being developed all the time, etc.
Chris, what's your version please?
v1.012
In article <6f99625959.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
In message <59596018afbasura@invalid.addr.uk>
Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
In article <ce6e355959.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
!Iris is pretty up to date and can access majority of sites. (its
can't do videos), but has Javascript, CSS, HTML5 etc..
I now rarely use my PC's browser, since starting to use Iris.
Iris is being developed all the time, etc.
Chris, what's your version please?
v1.012
Odd. The latest version on
https://www.riscosdev.com/special
is 1.010 (4-April-2021)
Do you have another source?
In message <sepomk$vib$1@dont-email.me>
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
On 08/08/2021 16:22, Stuart wrote:
In article <5958d356b8brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:
Me too! Some frustrations with slow loads but generally goodHence my request but a Pi4 running at 2.1G should help.
I just wish I could find that post which mentioned speeds, which I
thought was by Druck, but I can't.
The Pi 4 is pretty much the all round fastest machine, and great for
RISC OS applications. But I would not recommend it for web browsing
from RISC OS, we just don't have a good enough browsers, or crucially,
a good enough OS to make full use the hardware. If you want to web
browse, put Linux or Android on it.
Sorry Druck, but I would have to disagree with you, have you used !Iris ?
!Iris is pretty up to date and can access majority of sites. (its can't
do videos), but has Javascript, CSS, HTML5 etc..
In article <10124b5859.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
How are you comparing prices? They all have different specs.
Against my needs.
"I am looking for a fast RO computer for internet browsing."
The FOURTress is looking good especially as Andy still has some WROCC "Specials" without the hard drive. I'm now considering whether I need the hard drive for my intended use.
In article <10124b5859.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
How are you comparing prices? They all have different specs.
Against my needs.
"I am looking for a fast RO computer for internet browsing."
The FOURTress is looking good especially as Andy still has some WROCC "Specials" without the hard drive. I'm now considering whether I need the hard drive for my intended use.
In article <ce6e355959.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
In message <sepomk$vib$1@dont-email.me>
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
On 08/08/2021 16:22, Stuart wrote:
In article <5958d356b8brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:
Me too! Some frustrations with slow loads but generally goodHence my request but a Pi4 running at 2.1G should help.
I just wish I could find that post which mentioned speeds, which I
thought was by Druck, but I can't.
The Pi 4 is pretty much the all round fastest machine, and great for
RISC OS applications. But I would not recommend it for web browsing
from RISC OS, we just don't have a good enough browsers, or crucially,
a good enough OS to make full use the hardware. If you want to web
browse, put Linux or Android on it.
Sorry Druck, but I would have to disagree with you, have you used !Iris ?
!Iris is pretty up to date and can access majority of sites. (its can't
do videos), but has Javascript, CSS, HTML5 etc..
I now have my RaPi4B and it seems to work well.
I've been looking at the BBC website and, although perhaps slower to load than Firefox on a Windows machine it displays very well. Once loaded scrolling is as fast as on the said PC.
I have had an issue trying to access Farnell or CPC's website in that
typing in the respective URLs and hitting return seems to do precisely nothing but Ebay works, though I haven't yet tried to buy anything (no
need)
I have tested these and you need to change the user agent within !Iris
to access these two websites (I had the same issue with the Argos
webiste)
I changed the agent to: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
5.1; SV1) Which seems to be the lowest user agent available!
In article <c865725d59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
I have tested these and you need to change the user agent within !Iris
to access these two websites (I had the same issue with the Argos
webiste)
I changed the agent to: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
5.1; SV1) Which seems to be the lowest user agent available!
Interesting. I know nothing about user agents. Where is there an idiots guide?
On 18 Aug 2021 as I do recall,
Chris Newman wrote:
In article <c865725d59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris HughesI think the 'user agent' is just the browser's self-identification
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
I have tested these and you need to change the user agent within !Iris
to access these two websites (I had the same issue with the Argos
webiste)
I changed the agent to: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT
5.1; SV1) Which seems to be the lowest user agent available!
Interesting. I know nothing about user agents. Where is there an idiots
guide?
string, like the task name which an application supplies to the Task
Manager - or the arbitrary From line specified in an outgoing e-mail.
And since it's just a piece of text, a browser can claim falsely to be anything it likes, which may gain you access to sites which attempt to
use the user agent as a means of filtering (e.g. on the grounds that if they've never heard of your browser they can't guarantee to be able to support it, and would thus rather not let you render their HTML in case
you might complain that it's not working on your system....)
On 18 Aug 2021 as I do recall, Chris Newman wrote:
In article <c865725d59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
I have tested these and you need to change the user agent within
!Iris to access these two websites (I had the same issue with the
Argos webiste)
I changed the agent to: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows
NT 5.1; SV1) Which seems to be the lowest user agent available!
Interesting. I know nothing about user agents. Where is there an
idiots guide?
I think the 'user agent' is just the browser's self-identification
string, like the task name which an application supplies to the Task
Manager - or the arbitrary From line specified in an outgoing e-mail.
And since it's just a piece of text, a browser can claim falsely to be anythzing it likes, which may gain you access to sites which attempt to
use the user agent as a means of filtering (e.g. on the grounds that
if they've never heard of your browser they can't guarantee to be able
to support it, and would thus rather not let you render their HTML in
case you might complain that it's not working on your system....)
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