I have a booklet Re 50 pages in Impression format.
I need to get this into a format that can be read and edited on a
window machine.
How do I go about this task.

Malcolm Smith

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T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.21 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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On 30 Mar 2021 as I do recall,
T M Smith wrote:

I have a booklet Re 50 pages in Impression format.
I need to get this into a format that can be read and edited on a
window machine.
How do I go about this task.

It depends whether it is a 'desktop publishing' booklet or a
'word-processor' style booklet. If it is full of individually
positioned repeating frames, lots of images, etc., export in anything
like the original form is likely to be virtually impossible. If it is
a reasonably simple set of paragraphs and headings then you should be
able to get the text out (and possibly re-insert the illustrations by
saving them out separately). It's likely to be a one-time-only process, though.


Export as plain text (one frame at a time), import into Windows software
and reformat.

Or, export as DDF (one frame at a time) and import into OvationPro,
reformat and load into the Windows edition of OvationPro.

Or, export as DDF (one frame at a time) and convert to HTML using
DDF2Html, import into a Windows program that accepts HTML and reformat.

Or, print as PDF using PrintPDF and import into a Windows program that
can edit PDF. This is your quickest and most repeatable option, but
PDF tends to be a read-only format.


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People who live in stone houses shouldn't throw glasses.

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In article <fb455c1559.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>,
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

I have a booklet Re 50 pages in Impression format.
I need to get this into a format that can be read and edited on a
window machine.
How do I go about this task.

Malcolm Smith

you could make it into a pdf. There is Windows softwsre that lets you edit pdfs. But you would then lose any formatting,

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from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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In article <fb455c1559.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>,
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

I have a booklet Re 50 pages in Impression format.
I need to get this into a format that can be read and edited on a
window machine.
How do I go about this task.

If you happen to have OvationPro (and you really should!), you can import
the booklet, nearly without any after editing (as far as I remember, only particular frame borders loose their properties). From there you can edit
the booklet in OvationPro for Windows, if you happen to have that one too.

All this is true, if the booklet isn't too old. OvationPro can read nearly every Impression file, apart from the oldest ones.

Kind regards,
Paul Sprangers

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Thanks Harriet for your detailed reply.
It does sound as though it is not easy. I was trying to save a lot of
typing but printing out and typing in again on windows might be best considering the posible pitfalls/limitations of the alternatives.
I have also found there are a lot of Ovation Pro documents as well!!!

Thanks
Malcolm Smith

On 30 Mar 2021 as I do recall,
T M Smith wrote:

I have a booklet Re 50 pages in Impression format.
I need to get this into a format that can be read and edited on a
window machine.
How do I go about this task.

It depends whether it is a 'desktop publishing' booklet or a
'word-processor' style booklet. If it is full of individually
positioned repeating frames, lots of images, etc., export in anything
like the original form is likely to be virtually impossible. If it is
a reasonably simple set of paragraphs and headings then you should be
able to get the text out (and possibly re-insert the illustrations by
saving them out separately). It's likely to be a one-time-only process, though.

Export as plain text (one frame at a time), import into Windows software
and reformat.

Or, export as DDF (one frame at a time) and import into OvationPro,
reformat and load into the Windows edition of OvationPro.

Or, export as DDF (one frame at a time) and convert to HTML using
DDF2Html, import into a Windows program that accepts HTML and reformat.

Or, print as PDF using PrintPDF and import into a Windows program that
can edit PDF. This is your quickest and most repeatable option, but
PDF tends to be a read-only format.

--
T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.21 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

Or, export as DDF (one frame at a time) and import into OvationPro,
reformat and load into the Windows edition of OvationPro.

OvationPro can read Impression files, can't it? Perhaps the Windows version can also?

Theo

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In article <591565d4f6Paul@sprie.nl>,
Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

In article <fb455c1559.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>,
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

I have a booklet Re 50 pages in Impression format.
I need to get this into a format that can be read and edited on a
window machine.
How do I go about this task.

If you happen to have OvationPro (and you really should!), you can
import the booklet, nearly without any after editing (as far as I
remember, only particular frame borders loose their properties).
From there you can edit the booklet in OvationPro for Windows, if
you happen to have that one too.

All this is true, if the booklet isn't too old. OvationPro can read
nearly every Impression file, apart from the oldest ones.

I can endorse Paul's method from past use (Publisher > OvPro RO >
OvPro W10).

One issue is the fonts to be used. I ensured that the fonts of the
original had identical ones available in Windows by restricting them
to a selection taken from the old EFF Fonts CD which had both RISC OS
and Windows versions. Formats were then retained.

OvPro Windows version is available to download and use for a limited
(but lengthy) time with access to online manual. I found an
initially steep learning curve in moving over to it from
Impression/Publisher but I've never regretted it. The ability to
switch DTP work in an instant between RISC OS and Windows is a bonus,
being so easy with an emulator version of RISC OS.

Michael Harding
Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk

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In article <5915746d13Spambin@argonet.co.uk>,
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

In article <d76f651559.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>,
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

Thanks Harriet for your detailed reply.
It does sound as though it is not easy. I was trying to save a lot of typing but printing out and typing in again on windows might be best considering the posible pitfalls/limitations of the alternatives.
I have also found there are a lot of Ovation Pro documents as well!!!

Charles' suggestion would save you a lot of re-typing out the Impression documents, as suggested, and OVPro for Windows is the answer for Ovation documents.

Both OvPro for RISC OS and OvPro for Windows will load Impression files.

I still have some Imp Publisher files from the past (The single file type,
NOT the really old appdir type) from which I need bits and bobs of data.

I just drop the Imp file into OvPro RISC OS or Windows, depending on which
side I'm working and it works.

If you just want the text you can copy and paste from Imp to RISC OS OvPro.

Dave

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Dave Triffid

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In article <d76f651559.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>,
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

Thanks Harriet for your detailed reply.
It does sound as though it is not easy. I was trying to save a lot of
typing but printing out and typing in again on windows might be best considering the posible pitfalls/limitations of the alternatives.
I have also found there are a lot of Ovation Pro documents as well!!!

Charles' suggestion would save you a lot of re-typing out the Impression documents, as suggested, and OVPro for Windows is the answer for Ovation documents.

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
sending tools across the world
http://www.twam.co.uk/

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T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

I have a booklet Re 50 pages in Impression format.
I need to get this into a format that can be read and edited on a
window machine.
How do I go about this task.

I use PDFmaker. Works a treat every time, formatting and all

John Norris

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In message <fb455c1559.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

I have a booklet Re 50 pages in Impression format.
I need to get this into a format that can be read and edited on a
window machine.
How do I go about this task.

I just use PDF maker to create a pdf file. Works a treat every time,
formatting and all.

John Norris

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On 30 Mar, Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

I still have some Imp Publisher files from the past (The single file type, NOT the really old appdir type) from which I need bits and bobs of data.

I just drop the Imp file into OvPro RISC OS or Windows, depending on which side I'm working and it works.

FWIW, OPro on RISC OS (I don't have the Windows version) will load the old
App style Impression documents.

I've only got the one (!MicroScop) demo file but it loads quite happily in
to OPro 2.78e here, with the one caveat - some of the headline font sizes
don't translate oroperly, but it's just a few minutes work to resize the
text so it fits the frame.
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If you shoot a mime, should you use a silencer?

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In article <56f8811559.BrianNews@bhowlett.plus.net>,
Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:

On 30 Mar, Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

I still have some Imp Publisher files from the past (The single file
type, NOT the really old appdir type) from which I need bits and bobs
of data.

I just drop the Imp file into OvPro RISC OS or Windows, depending on
which side I'm working and it works.

FWIW, OPro on RISC OS (I don't have the Windows version) will load the
old App style Impression documents.

I've only got the one (!MicroScop) demo file but it loads quite happily
in to OPro 2.78e here, with the one caveat - some of the headline font
sizes don't translate properly, but it's just a few minutes work to
resize the text so it fits the frame.

Indeed...

I've just dug out a couple of old Impression files in the appdir format, "!Dates".

This old style Imp file will load okay in RISC OS OvPro but not in Win
OvPro.

But as I previously mentioned, the single file Imp files will load into
both versions of OvPro okay.

Also Brian, as you and others have noted, both fonts and frames may not translate exactly, but if it means you have access to the text, which in
my case is more important than the formatting... Phew! Saves a lot of
typing. :-)

I have on occasion needed the whole Imp file rather than just bits, and as
you note, a re-edit once in OvPro doesn't take very long.

Dave

After thought...

Just in case it has been forgotten, there is now a free download of
Impression Style on the PlingStore, which could prove invaluable for folks
with a collection of Impression files but no computer with Impression
installed to view or re-edit their documents.

D.

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Dave Triffid

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Thanks everyone for their replies to my plea for assistance, all
wonderfull. All the booklets and info is on my very seldom used
Iyonix, which thankfully still performs well.
I have dropped my booklet into Ovation Pro and it has displayed
everything correctly as far as I can see with a quick glance.
Now to carry out the next step, though at the moment time does not
permit.

Thanks again
Malcolm Smith

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Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.21 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

In message <1cc27d1559.John@jrn.orpheusmail.co.uk>
John Norris <jrn@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

In message <fb455c1559.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

I have a booklet Re 50 pages in Impression format.
I need to get this into a format that can be read and edited on a
window machine.
How do I go about this task.

I use PDFmaker. Works a treat every time, formatting and all

John Norris

Taken a while to come back to you John. Busy week end, Easter and then
I crashed the car. I can change Impression files to OvationPro OK now
but can stilll have difficulty loading files into OPwindows. The
problem I believe is the file type extension.

The filetype extension for Ovation Pro for Windows is dpd

So save the file on the RISCOS side as xxxxx/dpd and when it appears on
Windows it will appear as xxxxx.dpd




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In message <1cc27d1559.John@jrn.orpheusmail.co.uk>
John Norris <jrn@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

In message <fb455c1559.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

I have a booklet Re 50 pages in Impression format.
I need to get this into a format that can be read and edited on a
window machine.
How do I go about this task.

I use PDFmaker. Works a treat every time, formatting and all

John Norris

Taken a while to come back to you John. Busy week end, Easter and then
I crashed the car. I can change Impression files to OvationPro OK now
but can stilll have difficulty loading files into OPwindows. The
problem I believe is the file type extension.
Malcolm Smith
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Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.21 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <f0edf91859.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

In message <1cc27d1559.John@jrn.orpheusmail.co.uk>
John Norris <jrn@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:

In message <fb455c1559.Broadband@tmsmith36.plus.com>
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

I have a booklet Re 50 pages in Impression format.
I need to get this into a format that can be read and edited on a
window machine.
How do I go about this task.

I use PDFmaker. Works a treat every time, formatting and all

John Norris

Taken a while to come back to you John. Busy week end, Easter and then
I crashed the car. I can change Impression files to OvationPro OK now
but can stilll have difficulty loading files into OPwindows. The
problem I believe is the file type extension.

The filetype extension for Ovation Pro for Windows is dpd

So save the file on the RISCOS side as xxxxx/dpd and when it appears on Windows it will appear as xxxxx.dpd

Thanks Chris

Malcolm



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Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.21 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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