I have a vague recollection there's a RISC OS command line that will list
all the devices on the local network, maybe arp -something.
I really can't remember... Can anyone please refresh my ailing memory?
In message <5b0c9f00fedave@triffid.co.uk>
Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
I have a vague recollection there's a RISC OS command line that will
list all the devices on the local network, maybe arp -something.
I really can't remember... Can anyone please refresh my ailing memory?
arp -a will indeed do some of what you'd like, but I don't think there
is a command to list everything.
arp -a lists all those it is aware of, which really means those it has
been in connection with recently.
Try it, then ping your broadcast address, then try arp -a again, and I
think you'll see some of what I mean.
David
In article <f8e4a70c5b.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
In message <5b0c9f00fedave@triffid.co.uk>
Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
I have a vague recollection there's a RISC OS command line that will
list all the devices on the local network, maybe arp -something.
I really can't remember... Can anyone please refresh my ailing memory?
arp -a will indeed do some of what you'd like, but I don't think there
is a command to list everything.
arp -a lists all those it is aware of, which really means those it has
been in connection with recently.
Try it, then ping your broadcast address, then try arp -a again, and I
think you'll see some of what I mean.
David
Ah yes well...
Aside from the router, I have two other LAN things (Printers) active.
In a Command window (StrongEd) if I do arp -a I get...
*arp -a
route-sysctl-estimate
Whatever that might mean.
Aha! I've just remembered something (Expletive) I must away and test...
My remembering was correct, On a Real hardware SARPC, Arp -a etc works
okay, but on a Virtual Acorn it doesn't, and IIRC never has.
My remembering was correct, On a Real hardware SARPC, Arp -a etc
works okay, but on a Virtual Acorn it doesn't, and IIRC never has.
Correct it will not work on VRPC as all the networking is provided by
the Windows side and passed through to the VRPC program side (Remember
as far as Windows is concerned its just another application)
Try it instead on the windows side in a command window, I think it
should work (not got my PC on to double check at moment)
Correct it will not work on VRPC as all the networking is provided by
the Windows side and passed through to the VRPC program side (Remember
as far as Windows is concerned its just another application)
Try it instead on the windows side in a command window, I think it
should work (not got my PC on to double check at moment)
On the Windows side I use a great little programme from NirSoft.
It's called Wireless Network Watcher.
The name is a bit of misnomer because it shows anything connected via
your router; not just wireless connections but cabled ones as well.
It shows IP address, device name, MAC address, when detected etc.
https://www.nirsoft.net
Go to list on left, choose Network Tools and scroll down the list of software.
The download link is quite a way down the page after the list of versions
and other bumf.
I've just updated to version 2.40. On Windows 11 defender flagged it up
as a low potential risk but it's perfectly safe so I allowed it. It was recommended by Computer Active magazine.
It shows IP address, device name, MAC address, when detected etc.
https://www.nirsoft.net
In article <15792d0d5b.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
Correct it will not work on VRPC as all the networking is provided by
the Windows side and passed through to the VRPC program side (Remember
as far as Windows is concerned its just another application)
Try it instead on the windows side in a command window, I think it
should work (not got my PC on to double check at moment)
Thanks for the thoughts Chris.
I have no problem with the arp +flags command windows side, but this
"thing" I'm trying to sort for a friend is specifically a RISC OS thing.
On the Windows side I use a great little programme from NirSoft.
It's called Wireless Network Watcher.
The name is a bit of misnomer because it shows anything connected
via your router; not just wireless connections but cabled ones as
well.
It shows IP address, device name, MAC address, when detected etc.
https://www.nirsoft.net
In article <5b0d356d88mec@npost.uk>, Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk>
wrote:
On the Windows side I use a great little programme from NirSoft.
It's called Wireless Network Watcher.
The name is a bit of misnomer because it shows anything connected
via your router; not just wireless connections but cabled ones as
well.
It shows IP address, device name, MAC address, when detected etc.
https://www.nirsoft.net
Good tip - thanks! It shows all the ip addresses as expected and after
a delay ones I don't expect (active ones like 192.168.1.159 and 179).
Are they likely to be scam devices attempting to connect to my PC?
In article <5b0d356d88mec@npost.uk>, Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk>
wrote:
On the Windows side I use a great little programme from NirSoft.
It's called Wireless Network Watcher.
The name is a bit of misnomer because it shows anything connected
via your router; not just wireless connections but cabled ones as
well.
It shows IP address, device name, MAC address, when detected etc.
https://www.nirsoft.net
Good tip - thanks! It shows all the ip addresses as expected and
after a delay ones I don't expect (active ones like 192.168.1.159
and 179). Are they likely to be scam devices attempting to connect
to my PC?
In article <5b0d356d88mec@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:
It shows IP address, device name, MAC address, when detected etc.
https://www.nirsoft.net
Thanks, just what I needed but the full version with uninstall etc. (wnetwatcher_setup.TO1tBEvp.exe.part) is blocked by AVG which says it
has a malware virus. I've never seen a .part file before.
I take it, it's the smaller package (wnetwatcher.zip) people are
using? I hope that's safe.
Bob.
In message <5b0d5ba35aDave@triffid.co.uk>
Dave <Dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
In article <15792d0d5b.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
Correct it will not work on VRPC as all the networking is provided by
the Windows side and passed through to the VRPC program side (Remember
as far as Windows is concerned its just another application)
Try it instead on the windows side in a command window, I think it
should work (not got my PC on to double check at moment)
Thanks for the thoughts Chris.
I have no problem with the arp +flags command windows side, but this "thing" I'm trying to sort for a friend is specifically a RISC OS
thing.
Can you give us any details of this 'issue'?
In article <305b780d5b.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
In message <5b0d5ba35aDave@triffid.co.uk>
Dave <Dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
In article <15792d0d5b.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
Correct it will not work on VRPC as all the networking is provided by
the Windows side and passed through to the VRPC program side (Remember >>>> as far as Windows is concerned its just another application)
Try it instead on the windows side in a command window, I think it
should work (not got my PC on to double check at moment)
Thanks for the thoughts Chris.
I have no problem with the arp +flags command windows side, but this
"thing" I'm trying to sort for a friend is specifically a RISC OS
thing.
Can you give us any details of this 'issue'?
Yes, the friend has recently updated his Windows 10 to Windows 11 and for some reason, though his VRPC is working okay, his Printer RISC OS side
which did work okay on Win 10, now doesn't seem to be communicating LAN
wise to the Windows attached printer.
From the RISC OS side I wanted him to Ping the Printer to see if there was any communication at all, but unfortunately he doesn't know the ip address
of the printer, thus the 'arp' question.
In message <5b0d79a9c1basura@invalid.addr.uk> Richard Ashbery
<basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
In article <5b0d356d88mec@npost.uk>, Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk>
wrote:
It's called Wireless Network Watcher.
It shows IP address, device name, MAC address, when detected etc.
https://www.nirsoft.net
Good tip - thanks! It shows all the ip addresses as expected and
after a delay ones I don't expect (active ones like 192.168.1.159
and 179). Are they likely to be scam devices attempting to
connect to my PC?
I doubt it, as the 192.168.x.x range is local to your network not
external network.
Could they be other wireless devices, like Smart meter IHD (In Home
Displays) or even Wireless enabled Alarm systems. or even other
smart devices you have.
You could identoify the device by the mac address.
I doubt it, as the 192.168.x.x range is local to your network not external network.
In article <5b0d356d88mec@npost.uk>, Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk>
wrote:
On the Windows side I use a great little programme from NirSoft.
It's called Wireless Network Watcher.
The name is a bit of misnomer because it shows anything connected
via your router; not just wireless connections but cabled ones as
well.
It shows IP address, device name, MAC address, when detected etc.
https://www.nirsoft.net
Good tip - thanks! It shows all the ip addresses as expected and after
a delay ones I don't expect (active ones like 192.168.1.159 and 179).
Are they likely to be scam devices attempting to connect to my PC?
ATM. We are in a holding time as he's very busy with something else, but
when his busy is done, I'll chat to him about how to finding the IP
address of the printer Win side.
In article <5b0d65cf63bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
In article <5b0d356d88mec@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:
https://www.nirsoft.net
I did try that after Chris posted, but soon consigned it to the bin
as I prefer the one I'm using... :-)
"Advanced-IP-Scanner." https://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com/
Yes, the friend has recently updated his Windows 10 to Windows 11 and for some reason, though his VRPC is working okay, his Printer RISC OS side
which did work okay on Win 10, now doesn't seem to be communicating LAN
wise to the Windows attached printer.
From the RISC OS side I wanted him to Ping the Printer to see if there was any communication at all, but unfortunately he doesn't know the ip address
of the printer, thus the 'arp' question.
ATM. We are in a holding time as he's very busy with something else, but
when his busy is done, I'll chat to him about how to finding the IP
address of the printer Win side.
TBH. As I know nothing about Win 11, I'm kind of peeing in the wind to see what returns. ;-)
Dave
I have a vague recollection there's a RISC OS command line that will listWhat you need is a RISC OS port of Linux's nmap. You can scan your
all the devices on the local network, maybe arp -something.
I really can't remember... Can anyone please refresh my ailing memory?
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