Because of issues reported by some users here, with using our home W-Fi on their phones, I decided perhaps it was worth trying a new router. I
purchased a TP-Link Archer A5.
I was very surprised in the set-up instruction to be told to switch off
the modem and remove any internal battery, connect up the router and
re-power the modem.
Now I am with Orpheus and the modem blongs to BT.
This seems to be a rather odd procedure and interfering with BT kit to
remove an internal battery not something I should be doing. I did not do
it.
The modem here is the bit of kit that connects to the BT line and provides
me with a socket to plug in a network cable and connect to my router.
Can someone explain why I shOuld need to do this?
Previous experience with TP-Link kit has always been good but a secondary problem is that the router refuses to show me the set-up page when I connected it and powered it up.
Any help would be appreciated.
Now I am with Orpheus and the modem blongs to BT.
This seems to be a rather odd procedure and interfering with BT kit to
remove an internal battery not something I should be doing. I did not do
it.
The modem here is the bit of kit that connects to the BT line and provides
me with a socket to plug in a network cable and connect to my router.
Because of issues reported by some users here, with using our home W-Fi
on their phones, I decided perhaps it was worth trying a new router. I purchased a TP-Link Archer A5.
I was very surprised in the set-up instruction to be told to switch off
the modem and remove any internal battery, connect up the router and
re-power the modem.
On 17 Apr, Doug Webb wrote in message
<c98b8c6258.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>:
With full Fibre it is more complicated.
It is, but ISTR (but can't be bothered to go and look for the paperwork)
that even with full fibre[1] Openreach were very keen to make it clear
during and after the install that the ONT was *my* problem and not
theirs[2].
2. Fortunately the fibre and copper pair into the property was still their problem, so when several Openreach technicians took three weeks to identify and fix the nail that the Openreach installers had put through the new connection on the outside of the house, causing it to fail within days, I
got a nice chunk of compensation.
With full Fibre it is more complicated.
Now I am with Orpheus and the modem blongs to BT.
Not here. I paid Orpheus good money for my modem/router
That instruction would suggest that there may be some settings held in volatile memory which needs to be blanked before you can set up your new router. Just a thought, no experience to back it up.
Sounds like you have an earlier type set up for installs of a separate Openreach modem router but it would be good to know what your set is i.e
is it FTTC or full Fibre.
If it is the former then in theory you can replace the Modem only
element as well but only if the new Router/Modem is FTTC capable.
You will need to know what the set up is for id/password for connecting
to your FTTC service.
It is FFTC. On the hall window-sill is a creamy-white box, provided by BT/Openreach, which presents me with standard RJ connector. There is a
label underneath which says "Echolite HG612"
According to the manual, which I downloaded, it should be.
When I log in I should see a web management page with a number of options down the side, including set-up
Instead, when I log in I see a simple page, displaying status and a
limited number of option down the side.
It seems from the video that you enter the simple set up option by
default and selecting each option in turn walks you through things
but disturbing to hear you end up with lock ups.
In article <58628541cfcharles@candehope.me.uk>,
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
Now I am with Orpheus and the modem blongs to BT.
Not here. I paid Orpheus good money for my modem/router
Here the modem is separate, provided by BT.
When I went to fibre, Orpheus were only offering base 100 routers, so I bought my own.
I have contacted CPC, who supplied it, and they are picking it up on
Monday. I have asked for a replacement rather than a refund hoping the
fault lies in this particular device and is not something affecting a
whole batch.
If the replacement, when it arrives, also shows the
same behaviour it's going to be while till I can get something else, I
will probably look at a different manufacturer.
Yes. Good idea. I learned many years ago to never waste a minute of my
life ever phoning a helpline with the possible exception of RISC OS
firms!
If you get to that stage I would look at a combined modem/router as i
said earlier the HG612 is no longer supported by Openreach and also
having one item powered up may save a few pence in electricity and also lessen global warming :-)
I learned many years ago to never waste a minute of my
life ever phoning a helpline with the possible exception
of RISC OS firms!
Some people I come across report great success in using Twitter and/or Facebook[1], but I have nothing to do with either.
In article <e73eb46258.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
If you get to that stage I would look at a combined modem/router as i
said earlier the HG612 is no longer supported by Openreach and also
having one item powered up may save a few pence in electricity and also lessen global warming :-)
Well if I do, I'll be looking to you for advice!
In article <5862bfb62bSpambin@argonet.co.uk>,
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In article <e73eb46258.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
If you get to that stage I would look at a combined modem/router as i said earlier the HG612 is no longer supported by Openreach and also having one item powered up may save a few pence in electricity and also lessen global warming :-)
Well if I do, I'll be looking to you for advice!
UPS picked up the old router this morning and CPC tell me the replacement
has been despatched.
In article <586464c5a7Spambin@argonet.co.uk>,
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In article <5862bfb62bSpambin@argonet.co.uk>,
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In article <e73eb46258.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb
<doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
If you get to that stage I would look at a combined modem/router
as i said earlier the HG612 is no longer supported by Openreach
and also having one item powered up may save a few pence in
electricity and also lessen global warming :-)
Well if I do, I'll be looking to you for advice!
UPS picked up the old router this morning and CPC tell me the
replacement has been despatched.
Replacement arrived this morning and is now in quarantine
Turn off computers and connect router properly to WAN. Walk through to Irene's computer and turn it on. VPN off - yes (actually it would be since
it cannot connect to the internet but I hadn't realised that) Try to login and no proper login, as before Is it an issue with Irene's computer? Back
up to my den and try my computer - no joy :-( Sit back, despondent, and ponder I have an old XP box up there, it's on the network but not used on
the internet, I decided to try that. Still no improvement. Now going bald. When it worked before it had no connection to WAN Clutching at straws,
back downstairs, disconnect connection to modem and back up to Den. Lo and behold, when re-tried, proper login screen appears.
Trying to configure a new router on the same network as your current
device is going to be subject to failure: the two devices will be
fighting each other, anyway, and will probably want similar IP
addresses. It will
In article <5862a4d74cSpambin@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
<Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
I have contacted CPC, who supplied it, and they are picking it up on Monday. I have asked for a replacement rather than a refund hoping the fault lies in this particular device and is not something affecting a
whole batch.
Yes. Good idea. I learned many years ago to never waste a minute of my
life ever phoning a helpline with the possible exception of RISC OS
firms!
In message <5862b34977Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
If the replacement, when it arrives, also shows the
same behaviour it's going to be while till I can get something else, I
will probably look at a different manufacturer.
If you get to that stage I would look at a combined modem/router as i
said earlier the HG612 is no longer supported by Openreach and also
having one item powered up may save a few pence in electricity and also lessen global warming :-)
This can now be plugged into the switch on the computer desk in the
dining room and placed by the french window to give Wi-Fi in the back
garden. During the recent spell of fine weather and being under
lock-down, we have been spending quite a lot of time sitting out in the garden.
In article <e73eb46258.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
In message <5862b34977Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
If the replacement, when it arrives, also shows the
same behaviour it's going to be while till I can get something else, I
will probably look at a different manufacturer.
If you get to that stage I would look at a combined modem/router as i
said earlier the HG612 is no longer supported by Openreach and also
having one item powered up may save a few pence in electricity and also
lessen global warming :-)
I now have the new combined router/modem, DrayTek 2762, pre-configured by
the helpful Mr. Brown, up and running. The TP-Link Archer A5 has been re-configured as an access point and seems to be working fine in that mode.
The provided instructions to do it, however, were about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.
This can now be plugged into the switch on the computer desk in the dining room and placed by the french window to give Wi-Fi in the back garden.
During the recent spell of fine weather and being under lock-down, we have been spending quite a lot of time sitting out in the garden.
In message <58694ad07eSpambin@argonet.co.uk> Stuart
<Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In article <e73eb46258.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb
<doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
In message <5862b34977Spambin@argonet.co.uk> Stuart
<Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
The provided instructions to do it, however, were about as much use
as a chocolate fireguard.
This sounds as though you have two wireless-enabled routers, and want
one to operate as an access point.
It's quite complex, as there are a number of ways the access point can operate, and you also need to configure the wireless correctly to allow clients to connect to either, or roam between them.
The first part is that the access point can operate several ways:
It can use cable to the other router, and broadcast wireless, which is
what you probably want.
It can conect to your other router by wireless and provide a cabled
service. This is typically used to provide a wireless connection to
something that cannot use wireless itself, such as a RISC OS computer. Sometimes called "game adapter".
It can connect to your other router over wireless and relay that over wirelsess. This one is particularly tricky to get right.
The second part is that you need to make sure that the two routers
broadcast the same network name, with the same key, but on different channels. If they are on the same channel, a client that can reach both
will switch backwards and forwards between them, dropping data each
time.
In article <1f69506958.Alan.Adams@ArmX6.adamshome.org.uk>, Alan Adams <alan@adamshome.org.uk> wrote:
In message <58694ad07eSpambin@argonet.co.uk> Stuart
<Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In article <e73eb46258.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb
<doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
In message <5862b34977Spambin@argonet.co.uk> Stuart
<Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
The provided instructions to do it, however, were about as much use
as a chocolate fireguard.
Translated as they were from the original chinese?
It can use cable to the other router, and broadcast wireless, which is
what you probably want.
A wireless access point (to your network).
The second part is that you need to make sure that the two routers broadcast the same network name, with the same key, but on different channels. If they are on the same channel, a client that can reach both will switch backwards and forwards between them, dropping data each
time.
Right this is the standard Modem Openreach used on FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet) VDSL and if you had a combined modem/router you could dispense
with it. They stopped supporting it in 2016.Well omebody seems to think they are still worth money
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