Just noticed that this combination no longer logs outgoing mails in Pluto
Log Mail as before with POPstar.
Got to be something simple I've missed setting. I've been through Logging
in the help file but can't seem to find this particular answer.
Just noticed that this combination no longer logs outgoing mails in
Pluto Log Mail as before with POPstar.
Got to be something simple I've missed setting. I've been through
Logging in the help file but can't seem to find this particular
answer.
In article <5992effb36dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
Just noticed that this combination no longer logs outgoing mails in
Pluto Log Mail as before with POPstar.
Sorry, can you clarify exactly what you are referring to please?
Got to be something simple I've missed setting. I've been through
Logging in the help file but can't seem to find this particular
answer.
In article <5992f26a51News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
In article <5992effb36dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
Just noticed that this combination no longer logs outgoing
mails in Pluto Log Mail as before with POPstar.
Sorry, can you clarify exactly what you are referring to please?
Got to be something simple I've missed setting. I've been
through Logging in the help file but can't seem to find this
particular answer.
Pluto Boxes.
Have Mail DaveXXXX
Store DaveXXXX
Log Mail
Previously, with POPstar, all outgoing emails were archived to Log
Mail.
I'd like the same to happen with AntiSpam.
Pluto sorts incoming emails into the boxes I want as before.
In article <0c19f49259.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
AntiSpam's log files are handled by !SysLog and will appear in <SysLog$LogDir>, not inside Pluto. If you are using !MSC bundled
inside AntiSpam (as I suspect you may be) to send *outgoing* e-mail,
then that will also log its activities in !SysLog.Logs.MSC
So not possible to log them to a Pluto Box?
On 29 Nov 2021 as I do recall,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Just noticed that this combination no longer logs outgoing mails in
Pluto Log Mail as before with POPstar.
Got to be something simple I've missed setting. I've been through
Logging in the help file but can't seem to find this particular answer.
AntiSpam's log files are handled by !SysLog and will appear in <SysLog$LogDir>, not inside Pluto. If you are using !MSC bundled
inside AntiSpam (as I suspect you may be) to send *outgoing* e-mail,
then that will also log its activities in !SysLog.Logs.MSC
In article <599305ff8fdave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <5992f26a51News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
In article <5992effb36dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
Just noticed that this combination no longer logs outgoing
mails in Pluto Log Mail as before with POPstar.
Sorry, can you clarify exactly what you are referring to please?
Got to be something simple I've missed setting. I've been
through Logging in the help file but can't seem to find this
particular answer.
Pluto Boxes.
Have Mail DaveXXXX
Store DaveXXXX
Log Mail
Previously, with POPstar, all outgoing emails were archived to Log
Mail.
I'd like the same to happen with AntiSpam.
I can see no way the change from POPstar to Antispam has affected what
you seem to be describing, as it sounds like a Pluto function.
If you Edit Details of a Pluto Box you will see...
1. an 'Archive To' setting ... but that only archives an article when
you click on the Archive button in a viewer window.
2. a 'Log Replies in this box' setting ... but that would save it in
the box you are sending from.
If you use Pluto Preferences -> Lists -> Users and edit a user there
is a setting for Log Box so all emails sent by that user are saved
there.
If none of that helps, can you explain what you mean by 'log' and
'archive'? They may mean different things to different people!
Pluto sorts incoming emails into the boxes I want as before.
That is controlled by the Pluto filters you have, if the default
actions are insufficient - the users In Box setting.
In article <59930951ecNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
In article <599305ff8fdave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <5992f26a51News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
In article <5992effb36dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
Just noticed that this combination no longer logs outgoing
mails in Pluto Log Mail as before with POPstar.
Sorry, can you clarify exactly what you are referring to
please?
Got to be something simple I've missed setting. I've been
through Logging in the help file but can't seem to find this particular answer.
Pluto Boxes.
Have Mail DaveXXXX
Store DaveXXXX
Log Mail
Previously, with POPstar, all outgoing emails were archived to
Log Mail.
I'd like the same to happen with AntiSpam.
I can see no way the change from POPstar to Antispam has affected
what you seem to be describing, as it sounds like a Pluto
function.
If you Edit Details of a Pluto Box you will see...
1. an 'Archive To' setting ... but that only archives an article
when you click on the Archive button in a viewer window.
2. a 'Log Replies in this box' setting ... but that would save it
in the box you are sending from.
If you use Pluto Preferences -> Lists -> Users and edit a user
there is a setting for Log Box so all emails sent by that user
are saved there.
I've not altered them when Pluto was updated, and that's what they
still say. But it's not showing any mails written using Pluto
since I started using AntiSpam.
If none of that helps, can you explain what you mean by 'log' and 'archive'? They may mean different things to different people!
A log could be anything. 'You sent a mail to XX on XXX' would be a
log of sorts. This stores the mail as sent. Meaning if a problem,
can be re-sent.
Can you please post (or email me privately to my Pluto address) an
example of what 'logs' you used to get that you no longer get?
This may help to reduce my state of confusion, as I still cannot see
any connection between your problem and Antispam.
In article <59930bcdc4dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <59930951ecNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
In article <599305ff8fdave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <5992f26a51News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
In article <5992effb36dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
Just noticed that this combination no longer logs outgoing
mails in Pluto Log Mail as before with POPstar.
Sorry, can you clarify exactly what you are referring to
please?
Got to be something simple I've missed setting. I've been
through Logging in the help file but can't seem to find this particular answer.
Pluto Boxes.
Have Mail DaveXXXX
Store DaveXXXX
Log Mail
Previously, with POPstar, all outgoing emails were archived to
Log Mail.
I'd like the same to happen with AntiSpam.
I can see no way the change from POPstar to Antispam has affected
what you seem to be describing, as it sounds like a Pluto
function.
If you Edit Details of a Pluto Box you will see...
1. an 'Archive To' setting ... but that only archives an article
when you click on the Archive button in a viewer window.
2. a 'Log Replies in this box' setting ... but that would save it
in the box you are sending from.
If you use Pluto Preferences -> Lists -> Users and edit a user
there is a setting for Log Box so all emails sent by that user
are saved there.
I've not altered them when Pluto was updated, and that's what they
still say. But it's not showing any mails written using Pluto
since I started using AntiSpam.
If none of that helps, can you explain what you mean by 'log' and 'archive'? They may mean different things to different people!
A log could be anything. 'You sent a mail to XX on XXX' would be a
log of sorts. This stores the mail as sent. Meaning if a problem,
can be re-sent.
Can you please post (or email me privately to my Pluto address) an
example of what 'logs' you used to get that you no longer get?
This may help to reduce my state of confusion, as I still cannot see
any connection between your problem and Antispam.
In article <59930e18abNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
In article <59930bcdc4dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <59930951ecNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
In article <599305ff8fdave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <5992f26a51News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
In article <5992effb36dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
Just noticed that this combination no longer logs outgoing
mails in Pluto Log Mail as before with POPstar.
Sorry, can you clarify exactly what you are referring to
please?
Got to be something simple I've missed setting. I've been
through Logging in the help file but can't seem to find this particular answer.
Pluto Boxes.
Have Mail DaveXXXX
Store DaveXXXX
Log Mail
Previously, with POPstar, all outgoing emails were archived to
Log Mail.
I'd like the same to happen with AntiSpam.
I can see no way the change from POPstar to Antispam has affected
what you seem to be describing, as it sounds like a Pluto
function.
If you Edit Details of a Pluto Box you will see...
1. an 'Archive To' setting ... but that only archives an article
when you click on the Archive button in a viewer window.
2. a 'Log Replies in this box' setting ... but that would save it
in the box you are sending from.
If you use Pluto Preferences -> Lists -> Users and edit a user
there is a setting for Log Box so all emails sent by that user
are saved there.
I've not altered them when Pluto was updated, and that's what they
still say. But it's not showing any mails written using Pluto
since I started using AntiSpam.
If none of that helps, can you explain what you mean by 'log' and 'archive'? They may mean different things to different people!
A log could be anything. 'You sent a mail to XX on XXX' would be a
log of sorts. This stores the mail as sent. Meaning if a problem,
can be re-sent.
Can you please post (or email me privately to my Pluto address) an
example of what 'logs' you used to get that you no longer get?
This may help to reduce my state of confusion, as I still cannot see
any connection between your problem and Antispam.
Perhaps Dave was using the Sent Mail facility in Pluto before the
change.
If he re-installed Pluto for use with Antispam he may have forgotten that
the !Run files need to be updated, in this case it is in !Antispam.Resources.!MSC.Send - see Pluto Help Backup Sent facility.
In article <599373375dnews@rjdarby.co.uk>,
Richard Darby (news) <news@rjdarby.co.uk> wrote:
In article <59930e18abNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
Perhaps Dave was using the Sent Mail facility in Pluto before the
change.
I really don't remember setting anything up for this on my original
Pluto installation.
Perhaps backup is the wrong term. All I want is sent mails to be
easily accessible from Pluto, as before when using POPstar.
In article <59937d8b00dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <599373375dnews@rjdarby.co.uk>,
Richard Darby (news) <news@rjdarby.co.uk> wrote:
In article <59930e18abNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
[Big Snip]
Perhaps Dave was using the Sent Mail facility in Pluto before the
change.
I really don't remember setting anything up for this on my original
Pluto installation.
Are you saying that this is a new Pluto installation?
Did you start from scratch, or what?
[Snip]
Perhaps backup is the wrong term. All I want is sent mails to be
easily accessible from Pluto, as before when using POPstar.
Right. Lets try to agree on terms. I *think* what you are wanting is:
When User xxxx writes a new email, the complete email should be saved
in Box yyyy when sent.
For the user in question, what is the setting for Log Box In
Preferences -> Lists -> Users?
I will say again: There is no way the change from POPstar to Antispam
has affected what you seem to be describing. That change seems to be
a coincidence. What else changed at the same time?
In article <59938d3396News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
In article <59937d8b00dave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
Right. Lets try to agree on terms. I *think* what you are wanting
is:
When User xxxx writes a new email, the complete email should be
saved in Box yyyy when sent.
Correct. Any mails I sent from Pluto used to end up in the Box
called Log Mail. With POPstar. But not since I changed to AntiSpam.
For the user in question, what is the setting for Log Box In
Preferences -> Lists -> Users?
Sorry to be confused. Menu Preferences doesn't show Lists.
Do you mean Menu Lists-> Users? That shows my email addresses and
the user ID I've given them.
For dave@*********.co.uk
The writable fields are obvious.
Inbox Mail Davesound
Copy blank
Log Box Log Mail.
Choices below those unticked
Mail List Server No
All looks ok. I wonder if they are being put into another box
somehow?
Can you try ...
- select ALL boxes in the boxes list
- Menu -> Open selection
- Click in Article List to gain focus
- F4 to open search box
- enter a text string from the subject of a recent sent email
select Subject, and un-select Search selection
- click New Subset
Does that find the email you sent? (You may need to sort by date)
If so, click on the email - What box is it in?
In article <599399a54fNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
[Big Snip]
All looks ok. I wonder if they are being put into another box
somehow?
Can you try ...
- select ALL boxes in the boxes list
- Menu -> Open selection
- Click in Article List to gain focus
- F4 to open search box
- enter a text string from the subject of a recent sent email
select Subject, and un-select Search selection
- click New Subset
Does that find the email you sent? (You may need to sort by date)
If so, click on the email - What box is it in?
Did this find any sent emails?
I realised later that it would be easier in the Search & Select window
to just use the More button to display the Status selections - then
simply select only Search All, and click on OutGoing with a tick so
only sent emails will be selected when New Subset is clicked. Sort
the results by Date, and you should see all sent emails with the
latest first.
There may have been responses to my oringinal post that I missed, as
my newsgroup feed seems a little flaky at the moment.
All looks ok. I wonder if they are being put into another box
somehow?
Can you try ...
- select ALL boxes in the boxes list
- Menu -> Open selection
- Click in Article List to gain focus
- F4 to open search box
- enter a text string from the subject of a recent sent email
select Subject, and un-select Search selection
- click New Subset
Does that find the email you sent? (You may need to sort by date)
If so, click on the email - What box is it in?
There may have been responses to my oringinal post that I missed, as
my newsgroup feed seems a little flaky at the moment.
I used to subscribe to the force9 usenet posts, but they vanished a
long time ago. I was not aware that there were some plusnet ones. Is
that the only 'active' one?
In article <5998b3b984News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
There may have been responses to my oringinal post that I missed,
as my newsgroup feed seems a little flaky at the moment.
Indeed. PlusNet's Giganews feed seems to be rather broken, with lots
of missing posts. A couple of posts I made recently have never
appeared in my downloads. There were a number of posts about this on
the plusnet.service.customer-feedback group, but that seems to have
gone very quiet.
In article <5998b3b984News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
There may have been responses to my oringinal post that I missed,
as my newsgroup feed seems a little flaky at the moment.
Indeed. PlusNet's Giganews feed seems to be rather broken, with lots
of missing posts. A couple of posts I made recently have never
appeared in my downloads. There were a number of posts about this on
the plusnet.service.customer-feedback group, but that seems to have
gone very quiet.
So there are! At least it is not only me. I have just posted to the
Plusnet community forum, as I could find no references there.
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