How do I get my scroll wheel mouse to scroll Iris pages?
Chris
There are no scroll bars
in Iris
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Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:
How do I get my scroll wheel mouse to scroll Iris pages? Chris
Err, maybe I am misunderstanding what your issue is.
When the webpage has fully rendered I just use the scroll wheel on my
mouse to move up and down - this is on an ARMX6. There are no scroll bars
in Iris
In article <1a116a2359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
There are no scroll bars
in Iris
Indeed there are. Hover the mouse over the right side of the window
and the scroll bars appear. They do not work in quite the same way as standard - if you click at the bottom, the page will immediately
scroll to the bottom. 'Normal' operation just moves the window down
one page, whereever you click.
--
Chris Johnson
How do I get my scroll wheel mouse to scroll Iris pages?
Chris
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Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:
How do I get my scroll wheel mouse to scroll Iris pages?
Chris
+1
Charles
In article <1a116a2359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
There are no scroll bars
in Iris
Indeed there are. Hover the mouse over the right side of the window
and the scroll bars appear. They do not work in quite the same way as standard - if you click at the bottom, the page will immediately
scroll to the bottom. 'Normal' operation just moves the window down
one page, whereever you click.
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News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
In article <1a116a2359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
There are no scroll bars
in Iris
Indeed there are. Hover the mouse over the right side of the window
and the scroll bars appear. They do not work in quite the same way as standard - if you click at the bottom, the page will immediately
scroll to the bottom. 'Normal' operation just moves the window down
one page, whereever you click.
Indeed I have just discovered this myself after you mentioned it.
Although the helpfile does say "Scrolling doesn't use RISC OS scrollbars etc."
Anyway I find it works better jsut scrolling up and down with my mouse
rather then using the scroll bars. But each to their own.
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Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
In article <1a116a2359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
There are no scroll bars
in Iris
Indeed there are. Hover the mouse over the right side of the window
and the scroll bars appear. They do not work in quite the same way as
standard - if you click at the bottom, the page will immediately
scroll to the bottom. 'Normal' operation just moves the window down
one page, whereever you click.
Indeed I have just discovered this myself after you mentioned it.
Although the helpfile does say "Scrolling doesn't use RISC OS scrollbars
etc."
my copy doesn't seem to have a 'help' file.
In message <5923b57fe7charles@candehope.me.uk> charles
<charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
In article <bf01b32359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
In message <59236cc520chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> News
<chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
In article <1a116a2359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
There are no scroll bars in Iris
Indeed there are. Hover the mouse over the right side of the window
and the scroll bars appear. They do not work in quite the same way as
standard - if you click at the bottom, the page will immediately
scroll to the bottom. 'Normal' operation just moves the window down
one page, whereever you click.
Indeed I have just discovered this myself after you mentioned it.
Although the helpfile does say "Scrolling doesn't use RISC OS
scrollbars etc."
my copy doesn't seem to have a 'help' file.
Its the readme file in the ZIP archive.
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charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
In article <bf01b32359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
In article <1a116a2359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
There are no scroll bars
in Iris
Indeed there are. Hover the mouse over the right side of the window
and the scroll bars appear. They do not work in quite the same way as
standard - if you click at the bottom, the page will immediately
scroll to the bottom. 'Normal' operation just moves the window down
one page, whereever you click.
Indeed I have just discovered this myself after you mentioned it.
Although the helpfile does say "Scrolling doesn't use RISC OS scrollbars >>> etc."
my copy doesn't seem to have a 'help' file.
Its the readme file in the ZIP archive.
--
Chris Hughes
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Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:
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Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
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Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
In article <1a116a2359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
There are no scroll bars
in Iris
Indeed there are. Hover the mouse over the right side of the window >>>>>> and the scroll bars appear. They do not work in quite the same way as >>>>>> standard - if you click at the bottom, the page will immediately
scroll to the bottom. 'Normal' operation just moves the window down >>>>>> one page, whereever you click.
Indeed I have just discovered this myself after you mentioned it.
Although the helpfile does say "Scrolling doesn't use RISC OS scrollbars >>>>> etc."
my copy doesn't seem to have a 'help' file.
Its the readme file in the ZIP archive.
--
Chris Hughes
Nothing like sorting it out for your self!
First my version on HID was .76 and not the latest -89
Secondly you need to "teach" the scroll wheel to work with Iris.
All well now
I am not using !HID at all and have scroll wheel working in Iris
ARMX6 RISCOS v5.29
Do you have the scroll wheel configured correctly in !Configure under the Mouse tab.
--
Chris Hughes
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Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
In article <bf01b32359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
In article <1a116a2359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
There are no scroll bars
in Iris
Indeed there are. Hover the mouse over the right side of the window
and the scroll bars appear. They do not work in quite the same way as >>>>> standard - if you click at the bottom, the page will immediately
scroll to the bottom. 'Normal' operation just moves the window down
one page, whereever you click.
Indeed I have just discovered this myself after you mentioned it.
Although the helpfile does say "Scrolling doesn't use RISC OS scrollbars >>>> etc."
my copy doesn't seem to have a 'help' file.
Its the readme file in the ZIP archive.
--
Chris Hughes
Nothing like sorting it out for your self!
First my version on HID was .76 and not the latest -89
Secondly you need to "teach" the scroll wheel to work with Iris.
All well now
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Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
In article <bf01b32359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
In article <1a116a2359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
There are no scroll bars
in Iris
Indeed there are. Hover the mouse over the right side of the window
and the scroll bars appear. They do not work in quite the same way as >>>> standard - if you click at the bottom, the page will immediately
scroll to the bottom. 'Normal' operation just moves the window down
one page, whereever you click.
Indeed I have just discovered this myself after you mentioned it.
Although the helpfile does say "Scrolling doesn't use RISC OS scrollbars >>> etc."
my copy doesn't seem to have a 'help' file.
Its the readme file in the ZIP archive.
--
Chris Hughes
Nothing like sorting it out for your self!
First my version on HID was .76 and not the latest -89
Secondly you need to "teach" the scroll wheel to work with Iris.
All well now
Chris C
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Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
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Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
In article <1a116a2359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
There are no scroll bars
in Iris
Indeed there are. Hover the mouse over the right side of the window >>>>>>> and the scroll bars appear. They do not work in quite the same way as >>>>>>> standard - if you click at the bottom, the page will immediately >>>>>>> scroll to the bottom. 'Normal' operation just moves the window down >>>>>>> one page, whereever you click.
Indeed I have just discovered this myself after you mentioned it.
Although the helpfile does say "Scrolling doesn't use RISC OS scrollbars >>>>>> etc."
my copy doesn't seem to have a 'help' file.
Its the readme file in the ZIP archive.
--
Chris Hughes
Nothing like sorting it out for your self!
First my version on HID was .76 and not the latest -89
Secondly you need to "teach" the scroll wheel to work with Iris.
All well now
I am not using !HID at all and have scroll wheel working in Iris
ARMX6 RISCOS v5.29
Do you have the scroll wheel configured correctly in !Configure under the
Mouse tab.
--
Chris Hughes
It was set to either USB or other.Should line multiple be ticked?
Target is default -window under pointer perhaps HID had hi-jacked it?
Using RISC OS 5.29. Were some changes not made to improve OS support of
the scroll wheel?
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Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:
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Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
In article <bf01b32359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
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News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
In article <1a116a2359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
There are no scroll bars
in Iris
Indeed there are. Hover the mouse over the right side of the window >>>>>> and the scroll bars appear. They do not work in quite the same way as >>>>>> standard - if you click at the bottom, the page will immediately
scroll to the bottom. 'Normal' operation just moves the window down >>>>>> one page, whereever you click.
Indeed I have just discovered this myself after you mentioned it.
Although the helpfile does say "Scrolling doesn't use RISC OS scrollbars >>>>> etc."
my copy doesn't seem to have a 'help' file.
Its the readme file in the ZIP archive.
Nothing like sorting it out for your self!
First my version on HID was .76 and not the latest -89
Secondly you need to "teach" the scroll wheel to work with Iris.
All well now
Chris C
Two queries: How do I find my version of !HID
Wheer might I find an upgrade?
In article <1a116a2359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
There are no scroll bars in Iris
Indeed there are. Hover the mouse over the right side of the window and
the scroll bars appear. They do not work in quite the same way as
standard - if you click at the bottom, the page will immediately scroll
to the bottom. 'Normal' operation just moves the window down one page, whereever you click.
Although it may be the 'norm' on other OSs I find the
combination of "hide the scrollbar when you aren't
hovering the mouse over a very narrow region" and "jump
to where the mouse clicks" a real irritation when trying
to read a long page. The standard RO behaviour of a
persistent wider scrollbar and jumping a 'window size"
amount is far more convenient.
In message <0082662359.Chris@btinternet.com>
Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:
How do I get my scroll wheel mouse to scroll Iris pages?
Chris
Err, maybe I am misunderstanding what your issue is.
When the webpage has fully rendered I just use the scroll wheel on my
mouse to move up and down - this is on an ARMX6. There are no scroll bars
in Iris
my copy doesn't seem to have a 'help' file.
The date being 26 Apr 2021, Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> decided
to write:
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Chris Craig <chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:
How do I get my scroll wheel mouse to scroll Iris pages?
Chris
Err, maybe I am misunderstanding what your issue is.
When the webpage has fully rendered I just use the scroll wheel on my
mouse to move up and down - this is on an ARMX6. There are no scroll
bars in Iris
I've installed Iris and it does have what looks like a thin scroll bars.
They get thicker when you click on them - one of those completely
unnecessary embellishments that RISC OS can well do without. Hopefully
it will get RO-style scroll bars at some point.
Although it may be the 'norm' on other OSs I find the combination
of "hide the scrollbar when you aren't hovering the mouse over a
very narrow region" and "jump to where the mouse clicks" a real
irritation when trying to read a long page. The standard RO
behaviour of a persistent wider scrollbar and jumping a 'window
size" amount is far more convenient.
In article <88b0682459.news@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter
<ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
The date being 26 Apr 2021, Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk>
decided to write:
In message <0082662359.Chris@btinternet.com> Chris Craig
<chris.j.craig@btinternet.com> wrote:
How do I get my scroll wheel mouse to scroll Iris pages? Chris
Err, maybe I am misunderstanding what your issue is.
When the webpage has fully rendered I just use the scroll wheel on
my mouse to move up and down - this is on an ARMX6. There are no
scroll bars in Iris
I've installed Iris and it does have what looks like a thin scroll
bars. They get thicker when you click on them - one of those
completely unnecessary embellishments that RISC OS can well do
without. Hopefully it will get RO-style scroll bars at some point.
I so agree!
That's so like base Win 10 was and probably still is... I've changed
mine so I don't see either skinny or hiding scroll bars in Win 10.
Useless skinny scroll bars in Win 10 can be made wider with a Registry
hack, but they did at least put in a configuration to stop the stupid
scroll bars hiding when not used.
Standard RISC OS scroll bars please... Or at the least a config to make
'em wider if required.
In article <5924406daenoise@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
Although it may be the 'norm' on other OSs I find the combination of
"hide the scrollbar when you aren't hovering the mouse over a very
narrow region" and "jump to where the mouse clicks" a real irritation
when trying to read a long page. The standard RO behaviour of a
persistent wider scrollbar and jumping a 'window size" amount is far
more convenient.
In Mint you can over-ride that default behaviour. I know you use
something different but for me it's:
System settings->Themes->Settings and then:
Jump to position when clicking in trough (unset)
Use overlay scroll bars (set)
Override the current theme's scroll bar width (set)
This last brings up the slider for the width setting. Slide to taste.
I hope this is useful.
In article <5924406daenoise@audiomisc.co.uk>,
Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
Although it may be the 'norm' on other OSs I find the combination
of "hide the scrollbar when you aren't hovering the mouse over a
very narrow region" and "jump to where the mouse clicks" a real
irritation when trying to read a long page. The standard RO
behaviour of a persistent wider scrollbar and jumping a 'window
size" amount is far more convenient.
A classic example of "style over function" it's never a good idea.
Function must come first.
The date being 29 Apr 2021, Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
decided to write:
In article <5924406daenoise@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim Lesurf
<noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
Although it may be the 'norm' on other OSs I find the combination of
"hide the scrollbar when you aren't hovering the mouse over a very
narrow region" and "jump to where the mouse clicks" a real
irritation when trying to read a long page. The standard RO
behaviour of a persistent wider scrollbar and jumping a 'window
size" amount is far more convenient.
A classic example of "style over function" it's never a good idea.
Function must come first.
I've just noticed a very thin progress bar along the top of the window.
It's useful because the stop/refresh button isn't a good indicator of
whether Iris has finished processing (and it needs to flash if
something is still in progress).
Is there a repository for bug reports, suggestions and requests?
In article <b177ba2559.news@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter <ricp@minijem.plus.com> wrote:
The date being 29 Apr 2021, Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
decided to write:
In article <5924406daenoise@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim Lesurf
<noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
Although it may be the 'norm' on other OSs I find the combination of
"hide the scrollbar when you aren't hovering the mouse over a very
narrow region" and "jump to where the mouse clicks" a real
irritation when trying to read a long page. The standard RO
behaviour of a persistent wider scrollbar and jumping a 'window
size" amount is far more convenient.
A classic example of "style over function" it's never a good idea.
Function must come first.
I've just noticed a very thin progress bar along the top of the window.
It's useful because the stop/refresh button isn't a good indicator of
whether Iris has finished processing (and it needs to flash if
something is still in progress).
Is there a repository for bug reports, suggestions and requests?
When I talked to Andrew about feedback for Iris, Pinboard etc he
replied...
send to andrew@riscosdev.com but try and collate stuff together,
and don't over-load me please! :) I'll do my best :)
Everyone needs to remember Iris is still Beta software, i.e. not
finished
They have a long list of things they want to improve, but this takes
time and money plus developer time of course. Its very important the
above bit.
Collate issues - bug fixes are probably more important then new
features.
Also remember this is an extremely big program and uses the WebKit
stuff used on all the other platforms so do not except everything to
be totally style guide. Be happy we have much better browser.
When I talked to Andrew about feedback for Iris, Pinboard etc he
replied...
send to andrew@riscosdev.com but try and collate stuff together,
and don't over-load me please! :) I'll do my best :)
Everyone needs to remember Iris is still Beta software, i.e. not finished
They have a long list of things they want to improve, but this takes time
and money plus developer time of course. Its very important the above bit.
Collate issues - bug fixes are probably more important then new features.
Also remember this is an extremely big program and uses the WebKit stuff
used on all the other platforms so do not except everything to be totally style guide. Be happy we have much better browser.
In article <82b9c02559.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
[Snip]
Everyone needs to remember Iris is still Beta software, i.e. not
finished
They have a long list of things they want to improve, but this takes
time and money plus developer time of course. Its very important the
above bit.
Collate issues - bug fixes are probably more important then new
features.
Also remember this is an extremely big program and uses the WebKit
stuff used on all the other platforms so do not except everything to
be totally style guide. Be happy we have much better browser.
Absolutely, and pretty much as stated in the ReadMe. At this stage the ability to visit complex sites without having to use the Windoze machine outweighs the style guide concerns.
For now I am more interested in Alignment Exceptions and whether they
should be 'Off' as recommended when Iris starts or 'On' which is the
default on this machine. Both options come with warnings, about Iris in
the first case being unstable or failing and in the second case about
older software crashing or corrupting data.
Given that, almost by definition, all software is 'older' than Iris I
ignore Iris's recommendation but would be interested in the thoughts and recommendations of others? Does this hinge on the definition of 'older software'?
When I talked to Andrew about feedback for Iris, Pinboard etc he
replied...
send to andrew@riscosdev.com but try and collate stuff together, and
don't over-load me please! :) I'll do my best :)
Everyone needs to remember Iris is still Beta software, i.e. not
finished
They have a long list of things they want to improve, but this takes
time and money plus developer time of course. Its very important the
above bit.
Collate issues - bug fixes are probably more important then new
features.
Also remember this is an extremely big program and uses the WebKit
stuff used on all the other platforms so do not except everything to
be totally style guide. Be happy we have much better browser.
Well said Chris.
Everyone was hassling Andrew about getting "their free copy" and Andrew rightly stated the reasons for a delay in doing that and also set out expectations when it was released to a wider group.
People need to remember that this is a effectively a miniscule
development team and inundating them with feature requests etc now
just diverts what time they have to develop and support the product.
Yes feedback is good but just remember to save things up and not send
in a constant stream.
Andrew and the team do need some downtime to recharge their batteries
as well like anyone else.
For now I am more interested in Alignment Exceptions and whether they
should be 'Off' as recommended when Iris starts or 'On' which is the
default on this machine. Both options come with warnings, about Iris in
the first case being unstable or failing and in the second case about
older software crashing or corrupting data.
Given that, almost by definition, all software is 'older' than Iris I
ignore Iris's recommendation but would be interested in the thoughts and recommendations of others? Does this hinge on the definition of 'older software'?
So Iris needs alignment exceptions to be off, as it uses the
instructions correctly in their new form. It's probably the only piece
of RISC OS software to do so. Unfortunately, there's still a lot of old
stuff out there which uses the instructions incorrectly, in their old
form, and expects them to work as they did on the Iyonix.
As to what to do, I don't know. I'll probably continue to browse on
Linux and leave alignment exceptions on. If you wish to use Iris,
you'll need to turn them off, however. Were I to do that, I think I'd
turn them back on for a while when running new software for the first
time, though.
In article <mpro.qsfo7e02qnaxg04da.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
So Iris needs alignment exceptions to be off, as it uses the
instructions correctly in their new form. It's probably the only piece
of RISC OS software to do so. Unfortunately, there's still a lot of old stuff out there which uses the instructions incorrectly, in their old
form, and expects them to work as they did on the Iyonix.
As to what to do, I don't know. I'll probably continue to browse on
Linux and leave alignment exceptions on. If you wish to use Iris,
you'll need to turn them off, however. Were I to do that, I think I'd
turn them back on for a while when running new software for the first
time, though.
There is a sort of half-way house. If you have them on, when you load
Iris, it gives you the option to turn them off until the next re-boot.
I'm using that at the moment to see how it goes.
In article <5925db9de3cvjazz@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
<cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
In article <mpro.qsfo7e02qnaxg04da.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve
Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
So Iris needs alignment exceptions to be off, as it uses the
instructions correctly in their new form. It's probably the only
piece of RISC OS software to do so. Unfortunately, there's still a
lot of old stuff out there which uses the instructions incorrectly,
in their old form, and expects them to work as they did on the Iyonix.
As to what to do, I don't know. I'll probably continue to browse on
Linux and leave alignment exceptions on. If you wish to use Iris,
you'll need to turn them off, however. Were I to do that, I think I'd turn them back on for a while when running new software for the first time, though.
There is a sort of half-way house. If you have them on, when you load
Iris, it gives you the option to turn them off until the next re-boot.
I'm using that at the moment to see how it goes.
for the benefit of a bear with little brain, where do I find the control
for this?
for the benefit of a bear with little brain, where do I find the
control for this?
for the benefit of a bear with little brain, where do I find the control
for this?
In article <mpro.qsfo7e02qnaxg04da.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve
Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
As to what to do, I don't know. I'll probably continue to browse
on Linux and leave alignment exceptions on. If you wish to use
Iris, you'll need to turn them off, however. Were I to do that, I
think I'd turn them back on for a while when running new software
for the first time, though.
There is a sort of half-way house. If you have them on, when you
load Iris, it gives you the option to turn them off until the next
re-boot. I'm using that at the moment to see how it goes.
I normally run with Alignment Exceptions On, and I have never seen any
such message from Iris. Even running with v1.010 (4 April 2021).
I have been running with Alignment Exception Off now since I installed
this version of Iris, I used to have it on.
In message <5925e441efNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
I normally run with Alignment Exceptions On, and I have never
seen any such message from Iris. Even running with v1.010 (4
April 2021).
I thnk the warning was only added to the version that was made more
generally available, it wasn't in the release to ROD subscribers.
Everyone needs to remember Iris is still Beta software, i.e. not finished
They have a long list of things they want to improve, but this takes
time and money plus developer time of course. Its very important the
above bit.
Collate issues - bug fixes are probably more important then new features.
Also remember this is an extremely big program and uses the WebKit stuff
used on all the other platforms so do not except everything to be
totally style guide. Be happy we have much better browser.
Everyone needs to remember Iris is still Beta software, i.e. not finished
Incidentally, this answers Chris N's question in the current Archive. Saying something is "32-bit" is pretty meaningless these days, as it could be "ARMv5" (Iyonix, and Pi 1), "ARMv7" (most later stuff) or "ARMv8" (Pi 3 and 4). The reason that alleged "32-bit" stuff is unstable on the Pi 4 is very likely that it was 32-bitted for the Iyonix and never revisited since the ARMv7 changes (such as the ones above) became a thing. That's why developers who understand the issues tend to flag stuff as both "Iyonix" and "ARMv7" (aside from one very specific issue, it seems that ARMv8 didn't really make
a lot of difference).
I'm finding a lot of stuff which has problems on the Iyonix was not 32
bitted at all - someone just bodged a 32 bit header on the unmodified 26
bit code, and because it didn't fall over immediately, thought "job done".
On 03/05/2021 21:57, druck wrote:
I'm finding a lot of stuff which has problems on the Iyonix was not 32 bitted at all - someone just bodged a 32 bit header on the unmodified
26 bit code, and because it didn't fall over immediately, thought
"job done".
That should read ..."a lot of stuff which has problems on the Pi 4"... ..."didn't fall over immediately on the Iyonix,"...
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