Have my own domain hosted by 123-reg. Only used for email. Also a BTmail account.

123 reg have abolished pophost. On their website, they did an 'upgrade'
to imap.

And of course POPstar no longer downloads my emails from that domain - but
does still work with BT.

In users, I've changed <pophost.123-reg.co.uk> to <imap.123-reg.co.uk:995> which is about as far as I got by reading the blurb on the 123 site.

But then it doesn't work with Thunderbird either.

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In message <5969d6cbecdave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

Have my own domain hosted by 123-reg. Only used for email. Also a BTmail account.

123 reg have abolished pophost. On their website, they did an 'upgrade'
to imap.

And of course POPstar no longer downloads my emails from that domain - but does still work with BT.

In users, I've changed <pophost.123-reg.co.uk> to <imap.123-reg.co.uk:995> which is about as far as I got by reading the blurb on the 123 site.

But then it doesn't work with Thunderbird either.

123.reg website says the setting should be.

For the 'Incoming mail' section, enter imap.123-reg.co.uk as the incoming
mail server and use 993 for the Port. For the encryption method, select SSL/TLS.

For the 'Outgoing mail' section, enter smtp.123-reg.co.uk as the outgoing
mail server and use 465 for the Port. For the encryption method, select SSL/TLS.

I found the information via the following URL:

https://www.123-reg.co.uk/support/email/how-do-i-set-up-an-email-client-with-123-mail/

all one line!

They have a specific section on Thunderbird on that page as well.

Hope this helps.

Remember IMAP means your emails that are sent to you are stored on their servers.

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In message <199e4b6a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5969d6cbecdave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

Have my own domain hosted by 123-reg. Only used for email. Also a BTmail
account.

123 reg have abolished pophost. On their website, they did an 'upgrade'
to imap.

And of course POPstar no longer downloads my emails from that domain - but >> does still work with BT.

[snip]

For the 'Incoming mail' section, enter imap.123-reg.co.uk as the incoming mail server and use 993 for the Port. For the encryption method, select SSL/TLS.

For the 'Outgoing mail' section, enter smtp.123-reg.co.uk as the outgoing mail server and use 465 for the Port. For the encryption method, select SSL/TLS.

I found the information via the following URL:

https://www.123-reg.co.uk/support/email/how-do-i-set-up-an-email-client-wi th-123-mail/

all one line!

They have a specific section on Thunderbird on that page as well.

I think the issue here is that Dave is using Popstar as the transport
mechanism for email for the RISCOS side and that is not IMAP compliant.

He needs to either have a a IMAP complaint RISCOS client, MessengerPro
does this, or as suggested use Thunderbird on Windows/Linux.

There was a RISCOS Thunderbird release but it is old so may have security
or operability issues now and it was only ever a alpha status release.

One other way that may be possible is he could forward his 123-reg hosted
email to BT and download them there via POP/POPStar as that still works
with Popstar from what Dave say.

Doug

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Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

I think the issue here is that Dave is using Popstar as the transport mechanism for email for the RISCOS side and that is not IMAP compliant.

He needs to either have a a IMAP complaint RISCOS client, MessengerPro
does this, or as suggested use Thunderbird on Windows/Linux.

pop.123-reg.co.uk does exist and appears to be listening for POP mail on
both port 110 and 995. Try that?

Although that may be the service they are planning to turn off, I don't
know.

Over in uk.d-i-y, where Dave also asked this question, a 123-reg user
mentioned 'pophost' was an older server which may be the thing they're
turning off, rather than all POP. It appears pophost.123-reg.co.uk and pop.123-reg.co.uk resolve to different IP addresses, so are different
servers.

Theo

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In article <bd734f6a59.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <199e4b6a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5969d6cbecdave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

Have my own domain hosted by 123-reg. Only used for email. Also a
BTmail account.

123 reg have abolished pophost. On their website, they did an
'upgrade' to imap.

And of course POPstar no longer downloads my emails from that domain
- but does still work with BT.

[snip]

For the 'Incoming mail' section, enter imap.123-reg.co.uk as the
incoming mail server and use 993 for the Port. For the encryption
method, select SSL/TLS.

For the 'Outgoing mail' section, enter smtp.123-reg.co.uk as the
outgoing mail server and use 465 for the Port. For the encryption
method, select SSL/TLS.

I found the information via the following URL:

https://www.123-reg.co.uk/support/email/how-do-i-set-up-an-email-client-wi th-123-mail/

all one line!

They have a specific section on Thunderbird on that page as well.

I think the issue here is that Dave is using Popstar as the transport mechanism for email for the RISCOS side and that is not IMAP compliant.

He needs to either have a a IMAP complaint RISCOS client, MessengerPro
does this, or as suggested use Thunderbird on Windows/Linux.

There was a RISCOS Thunderbird release but it is old so may have
security or operability issues now and it was only ever a alpha status release.

One other way that may be possible is he could forward his 123-reg
hosted email to BT and download them there via POP/POPStar as that
still works with Popstar from what Dave say.

Thanks. I do use Thunderbird on the various PCs, and that stopped working
with 123-reg too. And changing it to IMAP didn't sort things. All my
various email addresses for my own domains were set in 123-Reg to forward
to *******@pophost.123-reg.co.uk and that was what I downloaded. Changed
that to my BT email address and I can now receive from the other
addresses. Talked to 123-Reg on the phone and they've raised it as a fault.

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In message <bd734f6a59.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <199e4b6a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5969d6cbecdave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

Have my own domain hosted by 123-reg. Only used for email. Also a BTmail >>> account.

123 reg have abolished pophost. On their website, they did an 'upgrade' >>> to imap.

And of course POPstar no longer downloads my emails from that domain - but >>> does still work with BT.

[snip]

For the 'Incoming mail' section, enter imap.123-reg.co.uk as the incoming
mail server and use 993 for the Port. For the encryption method, select
SSL/TLS.

For the 'Outgoing mail' section, enter smtp.123-reg.co.uk as the outgoing
mail server and use 465 for the Port. For the encryption method, select
SSL/TLS.

I found the information via the following URL:

https://www.123-reg.co.uk/support/email/how-do-i-set-up-an-email-client-wi >> th-123-mail/

all one line!

They have a specific section on Thunderbird on that page as well.

I think the issue here is that Dave is using Popstar as the transport mechanism for email for the RISCOS side and that is not IMAP compliant.

Actually he would need NetFetch/Hermes as his email transport, its Hermes
which is up to date and would replace PopStar and handles IMAP and up to
date SSL connections.

He needs to either have a a IMAP complaint RISCOS client, MessengerPro
does this, or as suggested use Thunderbird on Windows/Linux.

NetFetch/Hermes for the email transport and Messenger Pro or Pluto as the client would be answer.

There was a RISCOS Thunderbird release but it is old so may have security
or operability issues now and it was only ever a alpha status release.

IIRC its was rather broken

One other way that may be possible is he could forward his 123-reg hosted email to BT and download them there via POP/POPStar as that still works
with Popstar from what Dave say.

That might work. But he would need to ensure IIRC that his domain is in
accept list as 'safe' to go to and from his BT mail servers.




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On 11 Sep, Chris Hughes wrote in message
<199e4b6a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>:

Remember IMAP means your emails that are sent to you are stored on their servers.

No it doesn't. It can do, but IMAP can also be used in a POP-like way where mails are downloaded and deleted from the server (just as POP can often be
used in a slightly broken "IMAP-like" way where mails are downloaded and
left on the server).

--
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http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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In message <ef83536a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

I think the issue here is that Dave is using Popstar as the transport
mechanism for email for the RISCOS side and that is not IMAP compliant.

Actually he would need NetFetch/Hermes as his email transport, its Hermes which is up to date and would replace PopStar and handles IMAP and up to
date SSL connections.

He needs to either have a a IMAP complaint RISCOS client, MessengerPro
does this, or as suggested use Thunderbird on Windows/Linux.

NetFetch/Hermes for the email transport and Messenger Pro or Pluto as the client would be answer.

I have tried a new account set up in Hermes for emailbox fetching and it
is clear that when you add one it says type POP and also asks you for the
POP3 mail server address.

I thought the only IMAP client was RemoteNB which is part of MessengerPro server.

Are you saying you just ignore all that it says in the entry box sections
about POP and put in the server details and the IMAP port i.e 143/993

Happy to be corrected as usual and if Hermes can do IMAP then all the
better :-)

Doug

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In article <Oeh*l4Yty@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

I think the issue here is that Dave is using Popstar as the transport mechanism for email for the RISCOS side and that is not IMAP compliant.

He needs to either have a a IMAP complaint RISCOS client, MessengerPro
does this, or as suggested use Thunderbird on Windows/Linux.

pop.123-reg.co.uk does exist and appears to be listening for POP mail on
both port 110 and 995. Try that?

Although that may be the service they are planning to turn off, I don't
know.

Over in uk.d-i-y, where Dave also asked this question, a 123-reg user mentioned 'pophost' was an older server which may be the thing they're turning off, rather than all POP. It appears pophost.123-reg.co.uk and pop.123-reg.co.uk resolve to different IP addresses, so are different servers.

Remember I'm using both POPstar on here and Thunderbird on the PCs. Both
have the same problems.

123-reg was set up to forward all my emails to this pophost that I gave earlier, and it would seem to be this I can't access. Changing that to my
BT email address and I now get all new mails sent via 123-reg. But can't
of course see those stored on that pophost server - not a disaster as only
a few days worth. (POPstar is set to remove emails from the server when it downloads them - I only ever view them on the PCs)

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In article <ef83536a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

NetFetch/Hermes for the email transport and Messenger Pro or Pluto as
the client would be answer.

Thanks, Chris. I'll get them.

--
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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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In message <596ac2714edave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <ef83536a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

NetFetch/Hermes for the email transport and Messenger Pro or Pluto as
the client would be answer.

Thanks, Chris. I'll get them.

Dave,

I would check with RComp first about IMAP use in NetFetch/Hermes as
according to their webpage it states only this for NetFetch/Hermes:

Important Hermes features include:

� Simple, clear user interface shows you what's going on, and visually
shows you percentage completed bars for the current email and the whole fetching/sending job, without wasting screen space.
� Fetch POP email from many different mail servers, all at the same time.
You don't need to wait for one fetch to finish before checking another.
� Send mail via SMTP at the same time as fetching - your internet
connection can fetch and send data at the same time, so your computer
(with Hermes) can too!
� Supports many security standards - POP3s (POP mail fetching over SSL),
SMTP over SSL, APOP, authenticated SMTP (as used by BTinternet, for
example) and more.
� Support for both SSL and TLS-based secure email, tested on a wide range
of servers both in the UK and abroad.
� Multiple SMTP server support allows you to automatically direct outgoing emails via different SMTP servers depending on which of your email
addresses sends the mail in question. This has become important to ensure
your emails aren't treated as spam.

So no mention of IMAP but their MessengerPro page says this:

The main features are:

� Supports all the Internet mail and news standards
� "Industry Standard" - Messenger Pro has Good NetKeeping Seal of Approval

� Broadband and network (POP / SMTP / IMAP / NNTP) mail/news support
� SSL/TLS encryption supported on all major protocols

So as I believe it is MessengerPro that does IMAP but not Netfetch/Hermes.

Doug
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In message <5969d6cbecdave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

Have my own domain hosted by 123-reg. Only used for email. Also a BTmail >account.

123 reg have abolished pophost. On their website, they did an 'upgrade'
to imap.

And of course POPstar no longer downloads my emails from that domain - but >does still work with BT.

In users, I've changed <pophost.123-reg.co.uk> to <imap.123-reg.co.uk:995> >which is about as far as I got by reading the blurb on the 123 site.

My settings with Hermes for 132 reg is

POP3 mail server:

pop.123-reg.co.uk

Port:

110

But then it doesn't work with Thunderbird either.

--
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In message <62dbc56a59.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <596ac2714edave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <ef83536a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

NetFetch/Hermes for the email transport and Messenger Pro or Pluto as
the client would be answer.

Thanks, Chris. I'll get them.

Dave,

I would check with RComp first about IMAP use in NetFetch/Hermes as
according to their webpage it states only this for NetFetch/Hermes:

IMAP is a protocol. Hermes/Netfetch, provide the mail transport functions
to communicate with mail servers.

So no mention of IMAP but their MessengerPro page says this:

Messenger Pro has a built in IMAP server facility correct but its for your internal network as far as I am awhere.

I use it to access all my emails on my various other computers around the place, Regardless of if it is a Windows/Linux/Mac/tablet, I can access all
the emails they have come into the server version of messenger pro in this
case my ARMX6.

So as I believe it is MessengerPro that does IMAP but not Netfetch/Hermes.

Windows programs like Thunderbird, Outlook and say Windows Mail, combine
the mail transport and email client functions into the one program.
Whereas on RISCOS they are basically two programmes. Hermes/Popstar and
your email client Messenger Pro/Pluto



--
Chris Hughes

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In article <bbe8c66a59.Kevin@Kevsoft>,
Kevin Wells <kev@kevsoft.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5969d6cbecdave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

Have my own domain hosted by 123-reg. Only used for email. Also a BTmail >account.

123 reg have abolished pophost. On their website, they did an 'upgrade'
to imap.

And of course POPstar no longer downloads my emails from that domain - but >does still work with BT.

In users, I've changed <pophost.123-reg.co.uk> to <imap.123-reg.co.uk:995> >which is about as far as I got by reading the blurb on the 123 site.

My settings with Hermes for 132 reg is

POP3 mail server:

pop.123-reg.co.uk

Port:

110

Think you'll find pop.123-reg.co.uk is being phased out. Hence my problem.

But then it doesn't work with Thunderbird either.

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In article <596ac2714edave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <ef83536a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

NetFetch/Hermes for the email transport and Messenger Pro or Pluto as
the client would be answer.

Thanks, Chris. I'll get them.

Easier said than done. Tried to purchase NetFetch from the R-Comp site
(using Firefox on the PC) and it wouldn't accept the order.

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On 12 Sep, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
<596ad59f38dave@davenoise.co.uk>:

Think you'll find pop.123-reg.co.uk is being phased out. Hence my problem.

Various posters have now said that pophost.123-reg.co.uk is the one being phased out, while pop.123-reg.co.uk isn't? It's worth checking to confirm,
as staying with POP on a different server is the easy option.

--
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http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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In message <0483e26a59.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <93d6d16a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

Windows programs like Thunderbird, Outlook and say Windows Mail, combine
the mail transport and email client functions into the one program.
Whereas on RISCOS they are basically two programmes. Hermes/Popstar and
your email client Messenger Pro/Pluto

You keep saying this Chris and you are right to a certain extent.

NetFetch/Hermes provide a POP/SMTP set of transports but not a IMAP/SMTP
set.

I'm going to correct myself and add to the confusion as later versions of MesengerPro include Hermetic which allow a more limited capability to use Pop/SMTP without Netfetch/Hermes.

In effect Netfetch/Hermes is a more capable setup for Pop/SMTP and of
course you can use it with any email programs like MessengerPro/Pluto etc.



As I said Dave may be best calling RComp and discussing his options after
he has confirmed with 123-reg if it is pophost or pop versions of their
email servers that are being withdrawn or both.

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In message <mpro.qzbsur03mxpp802yx.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

On 12 Sep, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
<596ad59f38dave@davenoise.co.uk>:

Think you'll find pop.123-reg.co.uk is being phased out. Hence my problem.

Various posters have now said that pophost.123-reg.co.uk is the one being phased out, while pop.123-reg.co.uk isn't? It's worth checking to confirm,
as staying with POP on a different server is the easy option.

Agree, Dave should check with 123-reg and confirm both pophost and pop
servers are going or if one is staying as it makes it easy then.

Also he just needs to see if he needs to do ssl(port995) or StartTLS
(Port110) etc.

Also he may need the newer AcornSSL module and associated components.



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In message <93d6d16a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

I would check with RComp first about IMAP use in NetFetch/Hermes as
according to their webpage it states only this for NetFetch/Hermes:

IMAP is a protocol. Hermes/Netfetch, provide the mail transport functions
to communicate with mail servers.

Hermes/Netfetch does not do IMAP it only does POP3/SMTP as far as I know.

So no mention of IMAP but their MessengerPro page says this:

Messenger Pro has a built in IMAP server facility correct but its for your internal network as far as I am awhere.

You can use it to attach to your email server where ever that is on your Lan/WAN/Internet etc.

In effect it is no different to POP in that you still connect to a email
server but in a different way and using a more modern set of protocols and gives the ability to synchronise etc.

It is better for use when you have multiple products phones/tablets/pc etc
that people have and use on the move.

Windows programs like Thunderbird, Outlook and say Windows Mail, combine
the mail transport and email client functions into the one program.
Whereas on RISCOS they are basically two programmes. Hermes/Popstar and
your email client Messenger Pro/Pluto

You keep saying this Chris and you are right to a certain extent.

NetFetch/Hermes provide a POP/SMTP set of transports but not a IMAP/SMTP
set.

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In message <cec2e36a59.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <0483e26a59.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <93d6d16a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

Windows programs like Thunderbird, Outlook and say Windows Mail, combine >>> the mail transport and email client functions into the one program.
Whereas on RISCOS they are basically two programmes. Hermes/Popstar and
your email client Messenger Pro/Pluto

You keep saying this Chris and you are right to a certain extent.

NetFetch/Hermes provide a POP/SMTP set of transports but not a IMAP/SMTP
set.

The use of the word POP in this case in Hermes is just telling you to put
the incoming address, in this case its imap.123-reg.co.uk, it does not
have to say POP in the address.

I'm going to correct myself and add to the confusion as later versions of MesengerPro include Hermetic which allow a more limited capability to use Pop/SMTP without Netfetch/Hermes.

In effect Netfetch/Hermes is a more capable setup for Pop/SMTP and of
course you can use it with any email programs like MessengerPro/Pluto etc.

Doug, up thread I have already provided the necessary details to be
entered into Hermes for it to work, taken directly from the 123.reg
website advising what logon/netowrk details you need.

I will quote it again. The same info works with Thunderbird

Quote:
123.reg website says the settings should be.

For the 'Incoming mail' section, enter imap.123-reg.co.uk as the incoming
mail server and use 993 for the Port. For the encryption method, select SSL/TLS.

For the 'Outgoing mail' section, enter smtp.123-reg.co.uk as the outgoing
mail server and use 465 for the Port. For the encryption method, select SSL/TLS.

I found the information via the following URL:

https://www.123-reg.co.uk/support/email/how-do-i-set-up-an-email-client-with-123-mail/

all one line!

They have a specific section on Thunderbird on that page as well.

End Quote:

As I said Dave may be best calling RComp and discussing his options after
he has confirmed with 123-reg if it is pophost or pop versions of their
email servers that are being withdrawn or both.

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In message <2fa4ec6a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

Doug, up thread I have already provided the necessary details to be
entered into Hermes for it to work, taken directly from the 123.reg
website advising what logon/netowrk details you need.

I will quote it again. The same info works with Thunderbird

Quote:
123.reg website says the settings should be.

For the 'Incoming mail' section, enter imap.123-reg.co.uk as the incoming mail server and use 993 for the Port. For the encryption method, select SSL/TLS.

For the 'Outgoing mail' section, enter smtp.123-reg.co.uk as the outgoing mail server and use 465 for the Port. For the encryption method, select SSL/TLS.

I found the information via the following URL:

https://www.123-reg.co.uk/support/email/how-do-i-set-up-an-email-client-wi th-123-mail/

all one line!

They have a specific section on Thunderbird on that page as well.

That will work only if Hermes has a IMAP client and supports the IMAP
protocol which is where I beg to differ with you.

The SMTP part for outgoing will work in Hermes just not the IMAP for
incoming.

So I think I will leave it there Chris as I don't think I am going to be
of any further help as I believe that Hermes doesn't do IMAP protocol and
you assert it does and even tests I have made to Outlook email addresses
using Hermes and Port 993, which essentially the same as 123-reg setup you
are suggesting doesn't work with Hermes here.

Hermes will only work with Port 995 or 110 which is Pop3s/POP3 protocol
ports.

RemoteNB within MessengerPro will work with Port 993/IMAP and indeed I
have tested that to Outlook email and it works.

The setup on 123-reg will work with Thunderbird as that does IMAP as well
as Pop3s/Pop3.


As I said below best for Dave to confirm with RComp before he spends money
or as others have suggested discuss with 123-reg if indeed ALL Pop3 access
is being turned off.

As I said Dave may be best calling RComp and discussing his options after
he has confirmed with 123-reg if it is pophost or pop versions of their
email servers that are being withdrawn or both.

As ever I am open to being educated and its been good to discuss this with everyone :-)

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In article <mpro.qzbsur03mxpp802yx.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

On 12 Sep, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
<596ad59f38dave@davenoise.co.uk>:

Think you'll find pop.123-reg.co.uk is being phased out. Hence my problem.

Various posters have now said that pophost.123-reg.co.uk is the one being phased out, while pop.123-reg.co.uk isn't? It's worth checking to confirm,
as staying with POP on a different server is the easy option.

Using the migrate button on my page on the 123-reg site, only thing it
changed was to add imap.123-reg.co.uk above pop.123-reg.co.uk as incoming servers.

It didn't alter the forward box that everything went to from *******@pophost.123-reg.co.uk and if that is the problem, why not? And why didn't the helpline (or blurb) head this up as the problem, rather than
going on about changing to the imap incoming server?

BTW, if the pophost is being phased out, what would the new one be called?

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In message <596b555c9adave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

BTW, if the pophost is being phased out, what would the new one be called?

pop.123-reg.co.uk

David

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On 12/09/2021 17:33, Doug Webb wrote:

In message <93d6d16a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

Messenger Pro has a built in IMAP server facility correct but its for your >> internal network as far as I am awhere.

You can use it to attach to your email server where ever that is on your Lan/WAN/Internet etc.

In effect it is no different to POP in that you still connect to a email server but in a different way and using a more modern set of protocols and gives the ability to synchronise etc.

It is a bit different to POP; with POP you download the email from the
server to your device, where it is then stored and available even when
offline. With IMAP the email usually remains stored on the server, not
locally, and you need to be online to read it.

Just remember if storing on someone else's server, it may not be backed
up, and there may be a limited amount of space, which can be used up if
you get a lot of large attachments.

It is better for use when you have multiple products phones/tablets/pc etc that people have and use on the move.

It can be easier with multiple devices, as every device can access all
the email on the server, and once its read on one device, its marked
read on all.

You can use POP with multiple devices, you normally set all but one of
your devices to leave email on the sever after downloading it, so the
other devices can also get it. On the computer which you want to store
the email, set it to delete from the server. The two disadvantages of
this are; when the computer set to delete downloads emails, other
devices may not have fetched them all first. The other is when you read
an email on one device, it still unread on all the others - although I
find it useful that an email I quickly glance at on the phone, is still
unread on the laptop where I am more likely to reply to it.

Note to self: It's now 6 years since I wanted to set one of my Raspberry
Pi's as IMAP server, and I still haven't gone live with it!

---druck

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In message <shpu3v$bsd$1@dont-email.me>
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

You can use it to attach to your email server where ever that is on your
Lan/WAN/Internet etc.

In effect it is no different to POP in that you still connect to a email
server but in a different way and using a more modern set of protocols and >> gives the ability to synchronise etc.

It is a bit different to POP; with POP you download the email from the
server to your device, where it is then stored and available even when offline. With IMAP the email usually remains stored on the server, not locally, and you need to be online to read it.

Dave, Thanks for the fuller explanation and yes I knew that but was just
trying to keep things as simple as possible and perhaps ended up being to simplistic.

On your last point you can have downloaded local copies with IMAP
depending on your client, though its not set as standard/default, just as
you say you can have the emails stored on line still with POP.

Just remember if storing on someone else's server, it may not be backed
up, and there may be a limited amount of space, which can be used up if
you get a lot of large attachments.

A very valid point, as usual be aware and backup and backup again.

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In article <3791746b59.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

In message <596b555c9adave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

BTW, if the pophost is being phased out, what would the new one be called?

pop.123-reg.co.uk

David

I've tried replacing pophost with that using my original 'name' before the
@. No joy. 123-reg have said the problem is fixed. But no information on
what I have to change (or not) my end. (For Thunderbird, as I accept
POPstar is not going to work. But if it doesn't work with Thunderbird, I'm
not holding my breath that it will work with Netfetch.

Spoke to yet another on their helpline, who's raised another ticket. The
video tutorials on their site bear no relation to what I see on my control panel. So assume are for a totally different email package.

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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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In article <cec2e36a59.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <0483e26a59.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <93d6d16a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

Windows programs like Thunderbird, Outlook and say Windows Mail, combine >> the mail transport and email client functions into the one program.
Whereas on RISCOS they are basically two programmes. Hermes/Popstar and
your email client Messenger Pro/Pluto

You keep saying this Chris and you are right to a certain extent.

NetFetch/Hermes provide a POP/SMTP set of transports but not a IMAP/SMTP set.

I'm going to correct myself and add to the confusion as later versions of MesengerPro include Hermetic which allow a more limited capability to use Pop/SMTP without Netfetch/Hermes.

In effect Netfetch/Hermes is a more capable setup for Pop/SMTP and of
course you can use it with any email programs like MessengerPro/Pluto etc.

As I said Dave may be best calling RComp and discussing his options after
he has confirmed with 123-reg if it is pophost or pop versions of their
email servers that are being withdrawn or both.

Not being able to buy Netfetch online (using Firefox and Win10) I phoned
RComp. They said it won't work with Pluto for imap. But supply Messenger
with it which will.

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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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In message <596c68fabbdave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <3791746b59.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

In message <596b555c9adave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

BTW, if the pophost is being phased out, what would the new one be called?

pop.123-reg.co.uk

David

I've tried replacing pophost with that using my original 'name' before the
@. No joy. 123-reg have said the problem is fixed. But no information on what I have to change (or not) my end. (For Thunderbird, as I accept
POPstar is not going to work. But if it doesn't work with Thunderbird, I'm not holding my breath that it will work with Netfetch.

Did they tell you to do that?

Have you followed the help link earlier in the thread from the 123 reg
support site re Thunderbird setup?

Spoke to yet another on their helpline, who's raised another ticket. The video tutorials on their site bear no relation to what I see on my control panel. So assume are for a totally different email package.

To be honest they should be able to update your control panel for you.



--
Chris Hughes

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In message <596c685a57dave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <cec2e36a59.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <0483e26a59.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <93d6d16a59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

Windows programs like Thunderbird, Outlook and say Windows Mail, combine >>>> the mail transport and email client functions into the one program.
Whereas on RISCOS they are basically two programmes. Hermes/Popstar and >>>> your email client Messenger Pro/Pluto

You keep saying this Chris and you are right to a certain extent.

NetFetch/Hermes provide a POP/SMTP set of transports but not a IMAP/SMTP >>> set.

I'm going to correct myself and add to the confusion as later versions of
MesengerPro include Hermetic which allow a more limited capability to use
Pop/SMTP without Netfetch/Hermes.

In effect Netfetch/Hermes is a more capable setup for Pop/SMTP and of
course you can use it with any email programs like MessengerPro/Pluto etc.

As I said Dave may be best calling RComp and discussing his options after
he has confirmed with 123-reg if it is pophost or pop versions of their
email servers that are being withdrawn or both.

Not being able to buy Netfetch online (using Firefox and Win10) I phoned RComp. They said it won't work with Pluto for imap. But supply Messenger
with it which will.

Have you actually spoken to someone physically at 123-reg.co.uk to comfirm
what your new details should be. They as your host provider should be
guiding you to at least setup Thunderbird as they list it specificity on
their support website, you are paying them for support within your fees.

Otherwise it might be time to move to a better host provider who will
properly help you.

Once you have Thunderbird working, you then use the same info for the RISC
OS side.

From your other posting you do seem to be getting confused as to what
settings to use.

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Chris Hughes

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In article <596c68fabbdave@davenoise.co.uk>,
Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <3791746b59.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

In message <596b555c9adave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

BTW, if the pophost is being phased out, what would the new one be called?

pop.123-reg.co.uk

I've tried replacing pophost with that using my original 'name' before the
@.

What exactly do you mean by that? All that goes into the hostname or
server name field is pop.123-reg.co.uk

I just tried telnetting to it over the default POP3 port 110 and it
gives a perfectly normal POP3 server response, properly responding to a
CAPA command:

telnet pop.123-reg.co.uk 110
Trying...
Connected to pop.123-reg.co.uk.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK Mailcore Mail Server
CAPA
+OK
CAPA
TOP
UIDL
RESP-CODES
PIPELINING
AUTH-RESP-CODE
USER
SASL PLAIN
.
QUIT
+OK Logging out
Connection closed.

This should just work with Thunderbird and POPstar (the capability list
has USER, so USER / PASS login which POPstar uses should be available).

Regards,
Frank

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In article <a712766c59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <596c68fabbdave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <3791746b59.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

In message <596b555c9adave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

BTW, if the pophost is being phased out, what would the new one be called?

pop.123-reg.co.uk

David

I've tried replacing pophost with that using my original 'name' before the @. No joy. 123-reg have said the problem is fixed. But no information on what I have to change (or not) my end. (For Thunderbird, as I accept POPstar is not going to work. But if it doesn't work with Thunderbird, I'm not holding my breath that it will work with Netfetch.

Did they tell you to do that?

Have you followed the help link earlier in the thread from the 123 reg support site re Thunderbird setup?

Spoke to yet another on their helpline, who's raised another ticket. The video tutorials on their site bear no relation to what I see on my control panel. So assume are for a totally different email package.

To be honest they should be able to update your control panel for you.

I've now spoken to 3 different people on their helpline. All have been
unable to see what the problem is and have escalated it to their 'pros'.
Who will get back to me - except they haven't. Over a week now.

So I raise a ticket myself by text on their contact page.

This is the reply I got:-

**********************

Thank you for contacting us.

The dave@ is an email forwarder, not a mailbox, so it�s expected for you
not to be able to access it.

Unfortunately, a forwarder cannot be a mailbox as well as they fulfill different functions.

A forwarder is just like a signpost that redirects emails. It doesn't have
any login credentials, storage space, etc. and you cannot set it up into
an email client, that's why it can't be a mailbox as well.

This means that if you want to access it, you would first need to delete
the forwarder and then create the same email address as a mailbox instead.

When the mailbox is created, emails won't be forwarded anymore to your @btinternet.com address but sent to the newly created mailbox so you will
be able to reply directly from it.

Kind Regards, Raluca 123 Reg

******************

Ok - so I attempt to do this and get:-

***************

"Error: You don't have enough Personal Email. Please buy a Personal Email package and try again."

**************

I paid my year in advance subscription for the mail service I had (that
worked just fine) in June. Weeks later, they decide to make it stop
working.

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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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In message <596d6b477fdave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <a712766c59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <596c68fabbdave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <3791746b59.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

In message <596b555c9adave@davenoise.co.uk>
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

BTW, if the pophost is being phased out, what would the new one be called?

pop.123-reg.co.uk

David

I've tried replacing pophost with that using my original 'name' before the >>> @. No joy. 123-reg have said the problem is fixed. But no information on >>> what I have to change (or not) my end. (For Thunderbird, as I accept
POPstar is not going to work. But if it doesn't work with Thunderbird, I'm >>> not holding my breath that it will work with Netfetch.

Did they tell you to do that?

Have you followed the help link earlier in the thread from the 123 reg
support site re Thunderbird setup?

Spoke to yet another on their helpline, who's raised another ticket. The >>> video tutorials on their site bear no relation to what I see on my control >>> panel. So assume are for a totally different email package.

To be honest they should be able to update your control panel for you.

I've now spoken to 3 different people on their helpline. All have been
unable to see what the problem is and have escalated it to their 'pros'.
Who will get back to me - except they haven't. Over a week now.

So I raise a ticket myself by text on their contact page.

This is the reply I got:-

**********************

Thank you for contacting us.

The dave@ is an email forwarder, not a mailbox, so it's expected for you
not to be able to access it.

Unfortunately, a forwarder cannot be a mailbox as well as they fulfill different functions.

A forwarder is just like a signpost that redirects emails. It doesn't have any login credentials, storage space, etc. and you cannot set it up into
an email client, that's why it can't be a mailbox as well.

This means that if you want to access it, you would first need to delete
the forwarder and then create the same email address as a mailbox instead.

When the mailbox is created, emails won't be forwarded anymore to your @btinternet.com address but sent to the newly created mailbox so you will
be able to reply directly from it.

Kind Regards, Raluca 123 Reg

******************

Ok - so I attempt to do this and get:-

***************

"Error: You don't have enough Personal Email. Please buy a Personal Email package and try again."

**************

I paid my year in advance subscription for the mail service I had (that worked just fine) in June. Weeks later, they decide to make it stop
working.

You will only have paid for a 'parking' address by the sound of it plus a domain, i.e. one that forwards dave@davenoise.co.uk, to your I assume ISP
email server (BT internet I think you said).

I do the same,but mine are send and received via PlusNet.

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Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

You will only have paid for a 'parking' address by the sound of it plus a domain, i.e. one that forwards dave@davenoise.co.uk, to your I assume ISP email server (BT internet I think you said).

123-reg offer that by default on their domain registration:

Free email forwarding
Look professional, credible and unique with free email forwarding. All mail
to anyone@yourdomain.co.uk can be sent to any other email address, so you
look professional without needing another email service. https://www.123-reg.co.uk/domain-names/

but to get a mailbox you'd need to take out their email hosting package in addition:
https://www.123-reg.co.uk/email-hosting/


Of course that's their current offer - it may be Dave is on some legacy
package that offers something different.

Theo

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In article <Oeh*n+tuy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

You will only have paid for a 'parking' address by the sound of it plus a domain, i.e. one that forwards dave@davenoise.co.uk, to your I assume ISP email server (BT internet I think you said).

123-reg offer that by default on their domain registration:

Free email forwarding
Look professional, credible and unique with free email forwarding. All mail to anyone@yourdomain.co.uk can be sent to any other email address, so you look professional without needing another email service. https://www.123-reg.co.uk/domain-names/

but to get a mailbox you'd need to take out their email hosting package in addition:
https://www.123-reg.co.uk/email-hosting/

Of course that's their current offer - it may be Dave is on some legacy package that offers something different.

It was set up some 20 years ago, and never needed to touch it - until now.

Since I'm getting nowhere with their help facilities, I purchased their 'starter' at 99p a month for the first year. On entering my @davesound
address, it said you already have that as a mailbox. But took my money
anyway.

And if I look at their setup videos, they show choices that simply don't
appear on my links from my control panel. And I've tried using Edge as
well as my standard Firefox.

My 'manage your email' page is missing the 'more' button that the videos
all show. The only choice I have is delete or manage forwarder settings.

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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

It was set up some 20 years ago, and never needed to touch it - until now.

Since I'm getting nowhere with their help facilities, I purchased their 'starter' at 99p a month for the first year. On entering my @davesound address, it said you already have that as a mailbox. But took my money anyway.

It sounds like you're on some legacy package which is a different configuration, and something has got in a twist between the back and
frontends, but the support people don't understand.

Up to you how much you want to persevere, but at this point can I recommend Mythic Beasts:
https://www.mythic-beasts.com/hosting
The tech support is real humans who are very good.

The deal is £14.40pa for forwarding, £24pa for 2GB storage on their system, unlimited domains/mailboxes/email addresses.

I haven't used it from RISC OS but I assume it should all work for POP, IMAP and SMTP. Setup instructions: https://www.mythic-beasts.com/support/hosting/mail/client

To move your domain as well you'd probably need to pay them for an extension for another year.

Theo
(a happy customer for ~20 years)

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Got this message from support yesterday.

*************

Hi there,

We apologize for the delay in getting back to you on this matter.

The popbox **@ is still active in your Control Panel.

To ensure that there is no disruption with your email, we advise that you manually migrate from Popbox to a new 123 Reg Mailbox, which provides
better spam and anti-virus protection.

For detailed information on how to manually migrate, please see our Popbox migration FAQ: https://www.123-reg.co.uk/support/uncategorised/123-reg-popbox-migration-guide

Kind regards, Corina

************

Now this is exactly what I did over a week ago using the migrate button
which then disappeared. Although the new page didn't show any of the
choices in the instructions.

But it now showed the old page, complete with migrate button again. And followed the instructions again. This time, it came up with the correct
mail box page, complete with choices. So set everything up and it worked
as it should. At long last.

Except today. A test message sent to my real address set to forward to the 123-reg one no longer worked.

Back to the control panel and set the forward up again. Which is now
working.

Talk about gremlins.

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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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