• Hiding info in a !Sprite

    From stephen.hull@btinternet.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 17 17:59:20 2021
    There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or text
    within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide personel
    information.
    Am I correct and if so what was the program called?

    Regards,

    Stephen


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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to stephen.hull@btinternet.com on Sat Jul 17 18:15:13 2021
    In article <af428a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
    <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
    There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or
    text within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide
    personel information. Am I correct and if so what was the program
    called?

    You may be thinking of !Stego, by Nat Queen.

    It is on his website http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html
    where there are lots of security utilities.

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    Martin Avison
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  • From Paul Oates@21:1/5 to stephen.hull@btinternet.com on Sat Jul 17 18:15:33 2021
    Was it !Steg by Paul Vigay


    In message <af428a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>
    stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

    There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or text within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide personel information.
    Am I correct and if so what was the program called?

    Regards,

    Stephen




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    Paul Oates
    oatespaul@btinternet.com

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  • From stephen.hull@btinternet.com@21:1/5 to Paul Oates on Sat Jul 17 20:57:22 2021
    In message <b7be8b4d59.Paul@oatespaul.btinternet.com>
    Paul Oates <oatespaul@btinternet.com> wrote:

    Was it !Steg by Paul Vigay


    In message <af428a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>
    stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

    There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or text
    within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide personel
    information.
    Am I correct and if so what was the program called?

    Regards,

    Stephen





    !Stego, by Nat Queen is the one thank you.

    Regards,

    Steve

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  • From stephen.hull@btinternet.com@21:1/5 to Martin on Sat Jul 17 20:57:16 2021
    In message <594d8bb72dNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <af428a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
    <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
    There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or
    text within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide
    personel information. Am I correct and if so what was the program
    called?

    You may be thinking of !Stego, by Nat Queen.

    It is on his website http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html
    where there are lots of security utilities.


    That's the one thank you,
    I can hide passwords in this program quite successfully now.

    Regards

    Steve
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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to stephen.hull@btinternet.com on Sat Jul 17 22:00:18 2021
    In article <518d9a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
    <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
    You may be thinking of !Stego, by Nat Queen.

    It is on his website http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html
    where there are lots of security utilities.

    That's the one thank you,
    I can hide passwords in this program quite successfully now.

    <plug>If you have Organizer, it can strongly encrypt any or all of the
    sections data, using Blowfish or IDEA.</plug>

    --
    Martin Avison
    Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
    without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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  • From stephen.hull@btinternet.com@21:1/5 to Martin on Sun Jul 18 10:44:54 2021
    In message <594da0524fNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <518d9a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
    <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
    You may be thinking of !Stego, by Nat Queen.

    It is on his website http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html
    where there are lots of security utilities.

    That's the one thank you,
    I can hide passwords in this program quite successfully now.

    <plug>If you have Organizer, it can strongly encrypt any or all of the >sections data, using Blowfish or IDEA.</plug>


    I use Organizer v1.59 but have no idea how to encrypt files with it.

    Regards,

    Steve

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  • From Steve Fryatt@21:1/5 to stephen.hull@btinternet.com on Sun Jul 18 11:09:43 2021
    On 18 Jul, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote in message
    <c752e64d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>:

    I use Organizer v1.59 but have no idea how to encrypt files with it.

    I suspect that Martin is referring to a more up-to-date version:

    http://www.organizerpim.co.uk/

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    Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

    http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Steve Fryatt on Sun Jul 18 11:34:15 2021
    In article <mpro.qwfqw101and1e03an.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
    Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
    On 18 Jul, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote in message
    <c752e64d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>:

    I use Organizer v1.59 but have no idea how to encrypt files with
    it.

    I suspect that Martin is referring to a more up-to-date version:
    http://www.organizerpim.co.uk/

    Indeed I was. Encryption was introduced 5 years ago in v2.26.
    I am afraid v1.59 is effectively from about 18 years ago,

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    Martin Avison
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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to stephen.hull@btinternet.com on Sun Jul 18 11:23:20 2021
    In message <c752e64d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>
    stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

    In message <594da0524fNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <518d9a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
    <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
    You may be thinking of !Stego, by Nat Queen.

    It is on his website http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html
    where there are lots of security utilities.

    That's the one thank you,
    I can hide passwords in this program quite successfully now.

    <plug>If you have Organizer, it can strongly encrypt any or all of the >>sections data, using Blowfish or IDEA.</plug>


    I use Organizer v1.59 but have no idea how to encrypt files with it.

    Thats the free version of the application and has many features missing.

    The current developed version 2.29a

    http://www.organizerpim.co.uk/

    Highly recommended.


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    Chris Hughes

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sun Jul 18 12:37:42 2021
    In article <69d7e94d59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <c752e64d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>
    stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

    In message <594da0524fNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
    Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <518d9a4d59.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
    <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
    You may be thinking of !Stego, by Nat Queen.

    It is on his website http://www.queen.clara.net/pgp/acorn.html
    where there are lots of security utilities.

    That's the one thank you,
    I can hide passwords in this program quite successfully now.

    <plug>If you have Organizer, it can strongly encrypt any or all of the >>sections data, using Blowfish or IDEA.</plug>


    I use Organizer v1.59 but have no idea how to encrypt files with it.

    Thats the free version of the application and has many features missing.

    The current developed version 2.29a

    http://www.organizerpim.co.uk/

    Highly recommended.

    Hear, hear. Absolutely. Wouldn't be without it.

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From druck@21:1/5 to stephen.hull@btinternet.com on Sun Jul 18 14:01:49 2021
    On 17/07/2021 17:59, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
    There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or text within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide personel information.

    Thanks for letting our friends at Cheltenham know where to look :-)

    ---druck

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  • From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to druck on Sun Jul 18 19:03:04 2021
    On 18 Jul 2021 as I do recall,
    druck wrote:

    On 17/07/2021 17:59, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
    There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or text within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide personel information.

    Thanks for letting our friends at Cheltenham know where to look :-)

    I seem to remember the discussion at the time suggested tongue-in-cheek
    that it would be pretty much as secure simply to store the information
    in the form of a Draw file with all the text converted to outlines,
    which would be undecipherable under anything but RISC OS and
    unrecognisable even as a graphics format by any spy's OS. :-p

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    Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

    It is better to have loved and lost than just to have lost.

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Harriet Bazley on Sun Jul 18 19:40:50 2021
    In article <72ee134e59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
    On 18 Jul 2021 as I do recall,
    druck wrote:

    On 17/07/2021 17:59, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
    There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or
    text within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide
    personel information.

    Thanks for letting our friends at Cheltenham know where to look :-)

    I seem to remember the discussion at the time suggested tongue-in-cheek
    that it would be pretty much as secure simply to store the information
    in the form of a Draw file with all the text converted to outlines,
    which would be undecipherable under anything but RISC OS and
    unrecognisable even as a graphics format by any spy's OS. :-p

    Oh happy days. (Probably).

    Experimentally, a friend and I used to send each other secret messages
    using Drawfiles.

    As Harriet notes above... Then we'd select everything, group it and make
    it (Lines and fills) white.

    Later we decided to change the filetype before sending. :-)

    I do remember the only weakness we found was the heading of the file when
    put in an advanced text editor of the Zap type. "DrawÉ

    Not that they'd find anything useful unless they knew the process to
    reveal.

    Ah well it was a long time ago and was a fun experiment at the time.

    Dave

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    Dave Triffid

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  • From Stuart@21:1/5 to Dave on Mon Jul 19 08:16:11 2021
    In article <594e1762c5dave@triffid.co.uk>,
    Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    Oh happy days. (Probably).

    Experimentally, a friend and I used to send each other secret messages
    using Drawfiles.

    I recall, many moons ago, sending my credit card details to CJE for
    something wraped up in a draw file.

    --
    Stuart Winsor

    Tools With A Mission
    sending tools across the world
    http://www.twam.co.uk/

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  • From druck@21:1/5 to Harriet Bazley on Mon Jul 19 14:14:05 2021
    On 18/07/2021 19:03, Harriet Bazley wrote:
    On 18 Jul 2021 as I do recall,
    druck wrote:

    On 17/07/2021 17:59, stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
    There was a program IIRC many years ago that let you place files or text >>> within it (possibly a dummy !Sprite file) that could hide personel
    information.

    Thanks for letting our friends at Cheltenham know where to look :-)

    I seem to remember the discussion at the time suggested tongue-in-cheek
    that it would be pretty much as secure simply to store the information
    in the form of a Draw file with all the text converted to outlines,
    which would be undecipherable under anything but RISC OS and
    unrecognisable even as a graphics format by any spy's OS. :-p

    I'm sure the at the egg heads at the donut would try out the Linux file command, spot that is says "RISC OS Draw file data", and then have a
    google for where they could download a copy of RISC OS.

    ---druck

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