• Network printing

    From Brian Jordan@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 23 09:53:43 2021
    I posted this to the Archive magazine mailing list thread "Printng" but
    it, along with a couple of other posts, hasn't appeared there. The
    discussion is about printing to a networked printer...

    "I have just downloaded and installed RemotePrinterFS and it works
    remarkably well. I use the MW PS3 driver and most of my work prints on my Lexmark duplex colour laser printer without any problems. Interestingly I
    get identical results with RemotePrinterFS#proto=LPD;host=ET0021B725BF8C;buffer=yes:
    and
    RemotePrinterFS#proto=JetDirect;host=ET0021B725BF8C;buffer=yes:
    as the printer path. [1]

    There is however one problem; although I am able to print from Draw,
    Paint, Photodesk Pluto and Easiwriter, I have no success printing from
    Ovation Pro. There is a brief click fom the printer and the light
    indicating that data is being transferred flashes and then ... nothing.
    I'd be intrigued to know if anyone else has seen this and more important,
    found a way to circumvent the problem.
    B

    [1] ET0021B725BF8C is how the printer is seen on the network."

    B

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  • From Paul Sprangers@21:1/5 to Brian Jordan on Sun May 23 12:53:19 2021
    In article <59310ad2f9brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
    Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

    I posted this to the Archive magazine mailing list thread "Printng" but
    it, along with a couple of other posts, hasn't appeared there. The
    discussion is about printing to a networked printer...

    Your post just arrived at the Archive mailing list. Apparently there's some delay between posting and arriving. My answer is posted and will surely
    arrive in due time.

    Kind regards,
    Paul Sprangers

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  • From Stuart@21:1/5 to Paul Sprangers on Sun May 23 22:52:35 2021
    In article <593115c679Paul@sprie.nl>,
    Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:
    In article <59310ad2f9brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
    Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

    I posted this to the Archive magazine mailing list thread "Printng" but
    it, along with a couple of other posts, hasn't appeared there. The discussion is about printing to a networked printer...

    Your post just arrived at the Archive mailing list. Apparently there's
    some delay between posting and arriving. My answer is posted and will
    surely arrive in due time.

    Yes, I'm afraid that is a real problem with AOL and why, though I read it,
    I never bother to post much because getting answers takes too long.

    The problem, of course, is the fact that all posts first have to go
    through the moderator and that introduces a delay. Why it needs to be
    moderated I cannot fathom and it is high time it ceased to be. Livtech is un-moderated and it works well. Indeed, as far as I am aware, non of the
    other mailing lists I subscribe to are moderated and they work just fine. without.

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  • From John Bryan@21:1/5 to Brian Jordan on Mon May 24 18:30:19 2021
    In message <59310ad2f9brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>
    Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

    I posted this to the Archive magazine mailing list thread "Printng" but
    it, along with a couple of other posts, hasn't appeared there. The
    discussion is about printing to a networked printer...

    "I have just downloaded and installed RemotePrinterFS and it works
    remarkably well. I use the MW PS3 driver and most of my work prints on my Lexmark duplex colour laser printer without any problems. Interestingly I
    get identical results with RemotePrinterFS#proto=LPD;host=ET0021B725BF8C;buffer=yes:
    and
    RemotePrinterFS#proto=JetDirect;host=ET0021B725BF8C;buffer=yes:
    as the printer path. [1]

    There is however one problem; although I am able to print from Draw,
    Paint, Photodesk Pluto and Easiwriter, I have no success printing from Ovation Pro. There is a brief click fom the printer and the light
    indicating that data is being transferred flashes and then ... nothing.
    I'd be intrigued to know if anyone else has seen this and more important, found a way to circumvent the problem.
    B

    [1] ET0021B725BF8C is how the printer is seen on the network."

    B


    I have two printers connected to my router network using RemotePrinterFS
    but use .....

    RemotePrinterFS#proto=JetDirect;host=10.0.0.12;port=9600:

    and

    RemotePrinterFS#proto=JetDirect;host=10.0.0.13;port=9600:

    Printing to them from Ovation Pro 2.78 works flawlessly.
    Could it be that using the printers MAC address rather than its network
    address is the problem?
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    John Bryan

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to John Bryan on Mon May 24 21:17:52 2021
    In article <e9f4bd3159.John@jrb.5026.gmail.com>,
    John Bryan <jrb.5026@gmail.com> wrote:

    I have two printers connected to my router network using RemotePrinterFS
    but use .....

    RemotePrinterFS#proto=JetDirect;host=10.0.0.12;port=9600:

    and

    RemotePrinterFS#proto=JetDirect;host=10.0.0.13;port=9600:

    Printing to them from Ovation Pro 2.78 works flawlessly.
    Could it be that using the printers MAC address rather than its network address is the problem?

    Well...

    Running VRPC-DL and Printers 1.91a I have three printer drivers setup and
    they all work okay from RISC OS over the LAN to the respective printers.

    RemotePrinterFS and JetDirect.

    On Menu bar icon of the printers, Shift adjust click brings forth the Connections config window.

    JetDirect is ticked On and the "Printer" writable has the network address
    of the particular printer in it, 192.168.0.9 for one example.

    Anything on RISC OS that can print, does print, including Ovation Pro
    (2.78e) without difficulty.


    Dave

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  • From Chris Evans (CJE/4D)@21:1/5 to URL:mailto:brian.jordan9@btinternet on Tue May 25 10:09:17 2021
    In article <59310ad2f9brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan <URL:mailto:brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:
    I posted this to the Archive magazine mailing list thread "Printng" but
    it, along with a couple of other posts, hasn't appeared there. The
    discussion is about printing to a networked printer...

    "I have just downloaded and installed RemotePrinterFS and it works
    remarkably well. I use the MW PS3 driver and most of my work prints on my Lexmark duplex colour laser printer without any problems. Interestingly I
    get identical results with RemotePrinterFS#proto=LPD;host=ET0021B725BF8C;buffer=yes:
    and
    RemotePrinterFS#proto=JetDirect;host=ET0021B725BF8C;buffer=yes:
    as the printer path. [1]

    There is however one problem; although I am able to print from Draw,
    Paint, Photodesk Pluto and Easiwriter, I have no success printing from Ovation Pro. There is a brief click fom the printer and the light
    indicating that data is being transferred flashes and then ... nothing.
    I'd be intrigued to know if anyone else has seen this and more important, found a way to circumvent the problem.
    B

    [1] ET0021B725BF8C is how the printer is seen on the network."

    Is there an option in Ovation to just print ASCII text as would be used for
    a daisywheel printer?

    Printing from edit uses that certainly for PCL(and PostScript?) printers

    n.b. I think !Prophet's option of 'Direct Printing' is plain text

    Chris Evans

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  • From Brian Jordan@21:1/5 to chris@cjemicros.co.uk on Tue May 25 11:26:17 2021
    In article <ant250917868pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>,
    Chris Evans (CJE/4D) <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Is there an option in Ovation to just print ASCII text as would be used
    for a daisywheel printer?

    Printing from edit uses that certainly for PCL(and PostScript?)
    printers

    n.b. I think !Prophet's option of 'Direct Printing' is plain text

    Chris Evans

    I have this morning discovered that OPro 2.78e prints via the PoScript2
    driver and that the issues I have been describing are only apparent when
    I use MW Software's PostScript3 driver. A further complication is that I
    use Richard Darby's modifications to enable duplex printing. More
    investigation later to see if I can identify exactly where the problem is.
    This is very frustrating as I am able to get full colour double sided
    output when printing from Easiwriter and Impression neither of which I
    use regularly any more.

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    Brian Jordan
    RISC OS 5.28 (19-Oct-20) on Raspberry Pi _____________________________________________________________________

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  • From Russell Hafter News@21:1/5 to Brian Jordan on Tue May 25 14:12:41 2021
    In article <59321af8e4brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
    Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

    I have this morning discovered that OPro 2.78e prints via
    the PoScript2 driver and that the issues I have been
    describing are only apparent when I use MW Software's
    PostScript3 driver.

    Weird - in that I have this problem too - but only with
    EasiWriter.. never had a use for Ovation.

    I do not use EW much these days either - but I seem to
    recall that the last time I printed from EW using the PS3
    driver, it worked, though it was just a very brief covering
    ltter.

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  • From Richard Darby (news)@21:1/5 to Brian Jordan on Tue May 25 16:01:18 2021
    In article <59321af8e4brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
    Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:
    [snip]

    I have this morning discovered that OPro 2.78e prints via the PoScript2 driver and that the issues I have been describing are only apparent when
    I use MW Software's PostScript3 driver. A further complication is that I
    use Richard Darby's modifications to enable duplex printing. More investigation later to see if I can identify exactly where the problem
    is. This is very frustrating as I am able to get full colour double
    sided output when printing from Easiwriter and Impression neither of
    which I use regularly any more.

    I updated my copy of OPro to 2.78e and successfully printed in duplex and
    in colour using MW PostScript 3 driver and my Duplex printer definition
    file on my Brother Printer.

    One of the differences between the PS2 and PS3 printer definition files is
    the PS2 definition contains 35 translations between RISC OS fonts and PostScript font names. Whereas, the PS3 printer definition files do not contain these and rely on the fonts being embedded in the PostScript.

    Could this be an indicator of a font problem with OPro? - Just grabbing at straws!!

    Have you considered a complete re-installation of OPro as your copy may be corrupt in some way.

    Richard Darby.

    ARMX6, RISC OS 5.29

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  • From Brian Jordan@21:1/5 to Brian Jordan on Wed May 26 00:32:38 2021
    In article <59310ad2f9brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
    Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    I'd be intrigued to know if anyone else has seen this and more
    important, found a way to circumvent the problem.

    Found it!

    It took a long time to discover I had changed the A4(Generic PS) paper
    size definition. I copied my settings from Printers on my VA where it has worked for years with margins set at 5mm all round printing via UniPrint
    to the same printer.
    I have now changed the margins to 8.1mm top and bottom and 6.3mm left and
    right which I believe is the default and everything now seems to be well.

    Thanks to everyone who has commented it is appreciated.
    B

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Brian Jordan on Wed May 26 09:05:08 2021
    In message <593262f6f8brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>
    Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

    In article <59310ad2f9brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
    Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    I'd be intrigued to know if anyone else has seen this and more
    important, found a way to circumvent the problem.

    Found it!

    It took a long time to discover I had changed the A4(Generic PS) paper
    size definition. I copied my settings from Printers on my VA where it has worked for years with margins set at 5mm all round printing via UniPrint
    to the same printer.
    I have now changed the margins to 8.1mm top and bottom and 6.3mm left and right which I believe is the default and everything now seems to be well.

    Thanks to everyone who has commented it is appreciated.

    Hooray! Your figures are correct.


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