• Ion Fury: To Buy Or Not To Buy

    From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 10 17:45:12 2023
    "Ion Fury" is now on sale on Steam, likely due to the recent release
    of its first DLC. It's a game that has long been on my wishlist, but
    I've never actually gotten around to buying. Should I finally take the
    plunge?

    For those not in the know, "Ion Fury" itself is a so-called "Boomer
    shooter": an FPS game hearkening back to the simple shooters of the
    mid-90s, when the levels were designed like mazes, the monsters were
    stupid, and the levels were gated off with tri-colored keycards. It
    utilizes an updated version of the "Duke Nukem 3D" engine (the 'Build
    Engine') and, IIRC, its protagonist and many of the concepts of the
    game are based upon ideas first created by 3DRealms during the long
    development of "Duke Nukem Forever".

    The game has generally been well regarded by aficionados of the genre.
    I myself have fond memories of "Duke3D" (and still find that game
    eminently playable, despite its age) but am not particularly nostalgic
    for games of that style.

    Which is probably why "Ion Fury" has lingered so long on my wishlist;
    I can't decide whether or not it's worth adding it to my collection.

    Maybe I should list the pros and cons...


    Pros:
    - Build engine feeds my nostalgia for golden-era
    DOS gaming
    - uncomplicated 'boomer shooter' mechanics
    - updated lighting effects to make visuals more
    palatable to modern tastes
    - Build-engine interactivity is always fun
    - wild and zany weapons and gameplay that are a
    far cry from the stodgy triple-A shooters of
    the modern era
    - I'd have to spend money and the game will
    probably be free on Epic in a month or three

    Cons:
    - simplistic Build engine makes me yearn for the
    capabilities of modern game engines
    - simplistic mechanics lack depth for long-term
    gameplay, meaning I'll probably start to get bored
    by level 10
    - pixelacious graphics hurt the eyes
    - game purposefully emulates the try-hard 'so
    extreme!' edginess of the 90s that resonates
    poorly today
    - not sure it's worth $10 USD
    - makes The Number go up


    Nope, that didn't help. To spend, or not to spend; that is the
    question. I still can't decide. So I'm opening it up to the newsgroup: Suggestions? Reviews? Save me from - one way or anther - making a
    (not too costly) mistake! ;-)

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 11 22:06:05 2023
    Not if. according to one reviewer, you keep getting stuck on walls,
    etc...

    Too frustrating for me. Almost bought it.

    -pw

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.co on Mon Nov 13 17:36:55 2023
    On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 22:06:05 -0700, PW
    <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:

    Not if. according to one reviewer, you keep getting stuck on walls,
    etc...

    Too frustrating for me. Almost bought it.

    Would that I had your strength of will.

    Because, yes, /of course/ I ultimately made the purchase. Not so much
    because I wanted the game or thought it would be fun or that it was
    worth the price. But more importantly, it makes The Number go up by
    one, and makes my wish list a little bit smaller. ;-)

    It helped that I ransacked my Steam inventory and sold a bunch of
    those otherwise pointless trading cards. Individually, they only net
    me two or three cents each, but I have accumulated a lot of them over
    the past few years. Selling them netted me enough cash to knock the
    price of the game down a few bucks, which made the sale that much more palatable. I looked askance at the game when I was paying $10USD, but
    was far more willing to make the plunge when it was around $7 ;-)

    Also, the game install is 90MB; isn't that cool? That fact alone
    almost makes the game worth the price. I mean, when was the last time
    you bought a new game that could fit onto a single ZIP disk? ;-)

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Nov 13 16:35:06 2023
    On 11/13/2023 2:36 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 22:06:05 -0700, PW
    <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:

    Not if. according to one reviewer, you keep getting stuck on walls,
    etc...

    Too frustrating for me. Almost bought it.

    Would that I had your strength of will.

    Because, yes, /of course/ I ultimately made the purchase. Not so much
    because I wanted the game or thought it would be fun or that it was
    worth the price. But more importantly, it makes The Number go up by
    one, and makes my wish list a little bit smaller. ;-)

    It helped that I ransacked my Steam inventory and sold a bunch of
    those otherwise pointless trading cards. Individually, they only net
    me two or three cents each, but I have accumulated a lot of them over
    the past few years. Selling them netted me enough cash to knock the
    price of the game down a few bucks, which made the sale that much more palatable. I looked askance at the game when I was paying $10USD, but
    was far more willing to make the plunge when it was around $7 ;-)

    Also, the game install is 90MB; isn't that cool? That fact alone
    almost makes the game worth the price. I mean, when was the last time
    you bought a new game that could fit onto a single ZIP disk? ;-)

    "What's a ZIP disk, Grandpa?"

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 13 18:50:40 2023
    "Ion Fury" itself is a so-called "Boomer
    shooter": an FPS game hearkening back to the simple shooters of the
    mid-90s

    I say no. I say reject the comfort food attraction of this sub-genre -- which can only bore you, and perhaps is intended to do exactly that, like 'cookie clicker' games -- and make a conscious effort to try new things; I don't know what, perhaps FMV games or abstract puzzlers, or who knows what, just not a brain-dead click-and-shooter that's likely aimed at steamdeck or switch mobile platforms.

    rms

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to rms on Tue Nov 14 10:22:32 2023
    On 14/11/2023 01:50, rms wrote:
    "Ion Fury" itself is a so-called "Boomer
    shooter": an FPS game hearkening back to the simple shooters of the
    mid-90s

      I say no.  I say reject the comfort food attraction of this sub-genre
    -- which can only bore you, and perhaps is intended to do exactly that,
    like 'cookie clicker' games --  and make a conscious effort to try new things; I don't know what, perhaps FMV games or abstract puzzlers, or
    who knows what, just not a brain-dead click-and-shooter that's likely
    aimed at steamdeck or switch mobile platforms.


    I like the occasional bit of mindless violence games but this, well
    they're too basic for me and the interest soon fades.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Tue Nov 14 09:38:23 2023
    On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 16:35:06 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/13/2023 2:36 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    Also, the game install is 90MB; isn't that cool? That fact alone
    almost makes the game worth the price. I mean, when was the last time
    you bought a new game that could fit onto a single ZIP disk? ;-)

    "What's a ZIP disk, Grandpa?"

    I know, I know. Even as I wrote it, I wondered how many people would
    remember the medium. But the alternative was the far less impressive
    "fits on 62 floppy disks" or "only uses 14% of a CD-ROM disk".

    Would it have been better if I instead used an LS-120 super-floppy?
    ;-)

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Nov 14 10:15:53 2023
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 10:22:32 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 14/11/2023 01:50, rms wrote:
    "Ion Fury" itself is a so-called "Boomer
    shooter": an FPS game hearkening back to the simple shooters of the
    mid-90s

      I say no.  I say reject the comfort food attraction of this sub-genre
    -- which can only bore you, and perhaps is intended to do exactly that,
    like 'cookie clicker' games --  and make a conscious effort to try new
    things; I don't know what, perhaps FMV games or abstract puzzlers, or
    who knows what, just not a brain-dead click-and-shooter that's likely
    aimed at steamdeck or switch mobile platforms.


    I like the occasional bit of mindless violence games but this, well
    they're too basic for me and the interest soon fades.

    Where were you all 30 hours ago before I made the purchase?

    Mind you, none of what you said escaped me BEFORE the sale, hence my
    initial hesitation towards the purchase. But the lure of The Number
    (and FOMO on a bargain when the sale ran out) forced my hand. ;-)

    As for the game itself, it isn't that bad. It's decidedly not GREAT
    though. Visually, it's actually quite nice (taking into account its
    legacy technology) and the combat is passable. But the level design
    isn't very good; there's a distinct lack of leading lines that
    indicate where the player is to go next. This results in a lot of
    pointless wandering about trying to figure out what my next objective
    is, usually through halls emptied of all enemies. I'm still having
    fun, but it's far less a game than it could have been with a better
    map layout.

    I haven't finished it yet, but so far my opinion is: definitely not
    worth $10USD, probably worth $5.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Tue Nov 14 08:41:26 2023
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:35:09 PM UTC-8, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/13/2023 2:36 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 22:06:05 -0700, PW
    <iamnotusing...@notinuse.com> wrote:

    Not if. according to one reviewer, you keep getting stuck on walls,
    etc...

    Too frustrating for me. Almost bought it.

    Would that I had your strength of will.

    Because, yes, /of course/ I ultimately made the purchase. Not so much because I wanted the game or thought it would be fun or that it was
    worth the price. But more importantly, it makes The Number go up by
    one, and makes my wish list a little bit smaller. ;-)

    It helped that I ransacked my Steam inventory and sold a bunch of
    those otherwise pointless trading cards. Individually, they only net
    me two or three cents each, but I have accumulated a lot of them over
    the past few years. Selling them netted me enough cash to knock the
    price of the game down a few bucks, which made the sale that much more palatable. I looked askance at the game when I was paying $10USD, but
    was far more willing to make the plunge when it was around $7 ;-)

    Also, the game install is 90MB; isn't that cool? That fact alone
    almost makes the game worth the price. I mean, when was the last time
    you bought a new game that could fit onto a single ZIP disk? ;-)

    "What's a ZIP disk, Grandpa?"

    Product name of a high capacity floppy disk. I'm not a grandpa (though
    old enough to be one.)

    - Justisaur

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Wed Nov 15 10:26:52 2023
    On 14/11/2023 00:35, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    "What's a ZIP disk, Grandpa?"

    Modern technology that is, I had a ZX Microdrive.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Nov 15 09:02:01 2023
    On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 10:26:52 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 14/11/2023 00:35, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    "What's a ZIP disk, Grandpa?"

    Modern technology that is, I had a ZX Microdrive.

    I had to look that one up (8-bit computer tech isn't really my forte).
    It's a really small tape format. Frankly, it looks inconvenient; where
    do you stick the pencil to wind up the tape when it inevitably spools
    out? ;-)

    Still, it held a reasonably impressive 85KB which - IIRC - compared
    well against Apple's initial 80KB floppy disks (although by the time
    the MicroDisk came out, Apple had expanded capacity to... 140KB I
    think?). Still, given the size of the Microdrive, it wasn't too
    shabby. Performance - getting data onto and off of the device - was
    horrible though, as with all tape devices.

    And apparently it was one of the least reliable tape systems around.
    Quoting Wikipedia: "The tapes stretched during use (giving them a
    short life span), eventually rendering the data stored unreadable.
    Also the "write protection" was software-based, thus a computer crash
    could erase the data on an entire tape in 8 seconds."

    Makes the Iomega Zip Disk 'click of death' thing look quaint in
    comparison. ;-P

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Nov 16 11:33:42 2023
    On 15/11/2023 14:02, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 10:26:52 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 14/11/2023 00:35, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    "What's a ZIP disk, Grandpa?"

    Modern technology that is, I had a ZX Microdrive.

    I had to look that one up (8-bit computer tech isn't really my forte).
    It's a really small tape format. Frankly, it looks inconvenient; where
    do you stick the pencil to wind up the tape when it inevitably spools
    out? ;-)

    Still, it held a reasonably impressive 85KB which - IIRC - compared
    well against Apple's initial 80KB floppy disks (although by the time
    the MicroDisk came out, Apple had expanded capacity to... 140KB I
    think?). Still, given the size of the Microdrive, it wasn't too
    shabby. Performance - getting data onto and off of the device - was
    horrible though, as with all tape devices.

    And apparently it was one of the least reliable tape systems around.
    Quoting Wikipedia: "The tapes stretched during use (giving them a
    short life span), eventually rendering the data stored unreadable.
    Also the "write protection" was software-based, thus a computer crash
    could erase the data on an entire tape in 8 seconds."

    Makes the Iomega Zip Disk 'click of death' thing look quaint in
    comparison. ;-P

    It was certainly a product of its time and it wasn't helped by the fact
    that game developers weren't that interested in it. It was very Sinclair though, producing technology on the cheap.

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