In the UK this is just getting worse and worse. It's not that long ago
that if you had Netflix and Amazon Prime* you were basically good to go.
Now there is just so many new services (and not just the big hitters
like Disney+ and Paramount) that have popped up making things more and
more fragmented. Oh you liked the first two series (yep what we still
call it that, although the term season is starting to make in-roads),
well the next ones are on <insert service here> that you have to pay for.
I dread to think how much it would cost if you only signed up to half of them.
*That's getting worse as well as the UI changes have made it more
difficult to find the actual free content (you know, one of the reasons
you pay for Prime) and also it looks like next year they are going to
make you pay extra to have an ad free service.
/mini-rant over
In the UK this is just getting worse and worse. It's not that long ago
that if you had Netflix and Amazon Prime* you were basically good to go.
Now there is just so many new services (and not just the big hitters
like Disney+ and Paramount) that have popped up making things more and
more fragmented. Oh you liked the first two series (yep what we still
call it that, although the term season is starting to make in-roads),
well the next ones are on <insert service here> that you have to pay for.
I dread to think how much it would cost if you only signed up to half of them.
*That's getting worse as well as the UI changes have made it more
difficult to find the actual free content (you know, one of the reasons
you pay for Prime) and also it looks like next year they are going to
make you pay extra to have an ad free service.
/mini-rant over
*That's getting worse as well as the UI changes have made it more
difficult to find the actual free content (you know, one of the
reasons you pay for Prime)
and also it looks like next year they are going to make you pay extra
to have an ad free service.
Last week something interesting happened: I was not able to watch the
weekly Asohka episode thanks to a combination of DRM issues (f*ck
Widevine) and buffering, so the episode would not automatically switch
to 1080p. So got my tricorne out of the cupboard (I'm not lying: I
literally have a pirate hat for when I want to make a point) and
obtained a DRM-free version of what I was paying monthly to watch. The results was that what I downloaded looked better, did not get stuck in a
loop when rewinding, did not attempt to skip the end credits, and
displayed in proper 24p. But whoever did this version had also converted
the SDH subtitles to normal subtitles with only the dialogue.
TL;DR: It's hard to justify paying for a service that keeps getting
worse with every announcement.
On 10/4/23 04:43, JAB wrote:
In the UK this is just getting worse and worse. It's not that long ago
that if you had Netflix and Amazon Prime* you were basically good to go.
Now there is just so many new services (and not just the big hitters
like Disney+ and Paramount) that have popped up making things more and
more fragmented. Oh you liked the first two series (yep what we still
call it that, although the term season is starting to make in-roads),
well the next ones are on <insert service here> that you have to pay for.
I dread to think how much it would cost if you only signed up to half of
them.
*That's getting worse as well as the UI changes have made it more
difficult to find the actual free content (you know, one of the reasons
you pay for Prime) and also it looks like next year they are going to
make you pay extra to have an ad free service.
/mini-rant over
It's not just the UK unfortunately, same problem here in the States.
In the UK this is just getting worse and worse. It's not that long ago
that if you had Netflix and Amazon Prime* you were basically good to go.
Now there is just so many new services (and not just the big hitters
like Disney+ and Paramount) that have popped up making things more and
more fragmented. Oh you liked the first two series (yep what we still
call it that, although the term season is starting to make in-roads),
well the next ones are on <insert service here> that you have to pay for.
I dread to think how much it would cost if you only signed up to half of them.
*That's getting worse as well as the UI changes have made it more
difficult to find the actual free content (you know, one of the reasons
you pay for Prime) and also it looks like next year they are going to
make you pay extra to have an ad free service.
/mini-rant over
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 08:08:49 -0500, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net>
wrote:
On 10/4/23 04:43, JAB wrote:
In the UK this is just getting worse and worse. It's not that long ago
that if you had Netflix and Amazon Prime* you were basically good to go. >>> Now there is just so many new services (and not just the big hitters
like Disney+ and Paramount) that have popped up making things more and
more fragmented. Oh you liked the first two series (yep what we still
call it that, although the term season is starting to make in-roads),
well the next ones are on <insert service here> that you have to pay for. >>>
I dread to think how much it would cost if you only signed up to half of >>> them.
*That's getting worse as well as the UI changes have made it more
difficult to find the actual free content (you know, one of the reasons
you pay for Prime) and also it looks like next year they are going to
make you pay extra to have an ad free service.
/mini-rant over
It's not just the UK unfortunately, same problem here in the States.
It was sort of inevitable that this would happen - and, in fact, was predicted. The salad-days of Netflix being a one-stop destination for
all your movie (and TV) watching needs prompted a deluge of
competitors, all who greedily hoarded their IPs behind a separate
paywall.
The scary thing is, we're likely to see the same thing happen with PC
games too. It's a bit slower to progress because the industry is
coming from a market where you would BUY the complete product, but as subscription-based streaming becomes more common, expect to see more exclusives requiring numerous subscriptions to different services that
- ultimately - end up costing more than just buying the games would
have.
Fortunately, with my massive backlog, I'll never want for games when
that inevitable future finally arrives. Let EA / MicroActiBlizzSoft /
Ubisoft / Sony demand monthly fees... I'll just fire up the PC and
play my thousands of older titles. ;-)
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 08:08:49 -0500, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net>
wrote:
On 10/4/23 04:43, JAB wrote:
In the UK this is just getting worse and worse. It's not that long ago
that if you had Netflix and Amazon Prime* you were basically good to go. >>> Now there is just so many new services (and not just the big hitters
like Disney+ and Paramount) that have popped up making things more and
more fragmented. Oh you liked the first two series (yep what we still
call it that, although the term season is starting to make in-roads),
well the next ones are on <insert service here> that you have to pay for. >>>
I dread to think how much it would cost if you only signed up to half of >>> them.
*That's getting worse as well as the UI changes have made it more
difficult to find the actual free content (you know, one of the reasons
you pay for Prime) and also it looks like next year they are going to
make you pay extra to have an ad free service.
/mini-rant over
It's not just the UK unfortunately, same problem here in the States.
It was sort of inevitable that this would happen - and, in fact, was predicted. The salad-days of Netflix being a one-stop destination for
all your movie (and TV) watching needs prompted a deluge of
competitors, all who greedily hoarded their IPs behind a separate
paywall.
The scary thing is, we're likely to see the same thing happen with PC
games too. It's a bit slower to progress because the industry is
coming from a market where you would BUY the complete product, but as subscription-based streaming becomes more common, expect to see more exclusives requiring numerous subscriptions to different services that
- ultimately - end up costing more than just buying the games would
have.
Fortunately, with my massive backlog, I'll never want for games when
that inevitable future finally arrives. Let EA / MicroActiBlizzSoft /
Ubisoft / Sony demand monthly fees... I'll just fire up the PC and
play my thousands of older titles. ;-)
Same thing is happening in the US. There are reasons I personally
refuse to consider streaming services besides the connection speed requirements.
*That's getting worse as well as the UI changes have made it moreWell given you can unsubscribe for most services within a month I
difficult to find the actual free content (you know, one of the reasons
you pay for Prime) and also it looks like next year they are going to
make you pay extra to have an ad free service.
On 10/4/23 10:52, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
Same thing is happening in the US. There are reasons I personally
refuse to consider streaming services besides the connection speed
requirements.
Do you live in a bad internet spot?
In the UK this is just getting worse and worse. It's not that long ago
that if you had Netflix and Amazon Prime* you were basically good to go.
Now there is just so many new services (and not just the big hitters
like Disney+ and Paramount) that have popped up making things more and
more fragmented. Oh you liked the first two series (yep what we still
call it that, although the term season is starting to make in-roads),
well the next ones are on <insert service here> that you have to pay for.
I dread to think how much it would cost if you only signed up to half of >them.
*That's getting worse as well as the UI changes have made it more
difficult to find the actual free content (you know, one of the reasons
you pay for Prime) and also it looks like next year they are going to
make you pay extra to have an ad free service.
/mini-rant over
On 10/4/23 09:30, H1M3M wrote:
Last week something interesting happened: I was not able to watch the
weekly Asohka episode thanks to a combination of DRM issues (f*ck
Widevine) and buffering, so the episode would not automatically switch
to 1080p. So got my tricorne out of the cupboard (I'm not lying: I
literally have a pirate hat for when I want to make a point) and
obtained a DRM-free version of what I was paying monthly to watch. The
results was that what I downloaded looked better, did not get stuck in a
loop when rewinding, did not attempt to skip the end credits, and
displayed in proper 24p. But whoever did this version had also converted
the SDH subtitles to normal subtitles with only the dialogue.
TL;DR: It's hard to justify paying for a service that keeps getting
worse with every announcement.
The reason piracy is such a common thing is because of how terrible
these services are.
JAB wrote:
Pretty much why I don't use Prime video anymore. It's easier to go to >Justwatch and browse from there.
and also it looks like next year they are going to make you pay extra
to have an ad free service.
And that's where I draw the line. It's bad enough that this year I'm
losing my student discount that got me a year of prime for nearly half
the price, but the quality and quantity of the material in the base >subscription has gone downhill. I would have to be extremely invested on
a service to pay an "ad free" tax.
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 16:30:23 +0200, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, H1M3M wrote:
JAB wrote:They also absolutely ruined Amazon music. Oh, we're giving you access to
Pretty much why I don't use Prime video anymore. It's easier to go to
Justwatch and browse from there.
and also it looks like next year they are going to make you pay extra
to have an ad free service.
And that's where I draw the line. It's bad enough that this year I'm
losing my student discount that got me a year of prime for nearly half
the price, but the quality and quantity of the material in the base
subscription has gone downhill. I would have to be extremely invested on
a service to pay an "ad free" tax.
our entire library! Isn't that great?
What do you mean you were playing the full albums that were part of Prime
for free?
Why do you play albums anyway boomer?
No, you can't play an album anymore. You have to accept what our
algorithm gives you now. But it's our full library! Isn't that great?
Uninstalled. I'm using Spotify and my local music now. I'm happy to pay
for the local mp3 music I want.
On 10/4/2023 8:09 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 08:08:49 -0500, candycanearter07 <n...@thanks.net> wrote:
On 10/4/23 04:43, JAB wrote:
In the UK this is just getting worse and worse. It's not that long ago >>> that if you had Netflix and Amazon Prime* you were basically good to go. >>> Now there is just so many new services (and not just the big hitters
like Disney+ and Paramount) that have popped up making things more and >>> more fragmented. Oh you liked the first two series (yep what we still >>> call it that, although the term season is starting to make in-roads), >>> well the next ones are on <insert service here> that you have to pay for.
I dread to think how much it would cost if you only signed up to half of >>> them.
*That's getting worse as well as the UI changes have made it more
difficult to find the actual free content (you know, one of the reasons >>> you pay for Prime) and also it looks like next year they are going to >>> make you pay extra to have an ad free service.
/mini-rant over
It's not just the UK unfortunately, same problem here in the States.
It was sort of inevitable that this would happen - and, in fact, was predicted. The salad-days of Netflix being a one-stop destination for
all your movie (and TV) watching needs prompted a deluge of
competitors, all who greedily hoarded their IPs behind a separate
paywall.
The scary thing is, we're likely to see the same thing happen with PC games too. It's a bit slower to progress because the industry is
coming from a market where you would BUY the complete product, but as subscription-based streaming becomes more common, expect to see more exclusives requiring numerous subscriptions to different services that
- ultimately - end up costing more than just buying the games would
have.
Fortunately, with my massive backlog, I'll never want for games when
that inevitable future finally arrives. Let EA / MicroActiBlizzSoft / Ubisoft / Sony demand monthly fees... I'll just fire up the PC and
play my thousands of older titles. ;-)
You assume that They will allow your older games to work if you aren't a subscriber.... *evil laughter*
Uninstalled. I'm using Spotify and my local music now. I'm happy to
pay for the local mp3 music I want.
"If you're watching this, you're probably not a pirate. Don't pirate
this movie!"
Unskippable.
It's like they want people to go yaarrr.
The piracy warning, then the unskippable trailers, which would made it
even worse than VHS and Beta where you could fast forward. It got to the point where some DVDs were advertised as "Fast Play! You can get to the
movie instantaneously".
Blu-Ray was advertised as "The movie begins as soon as you insert the
discs, no menus or annoyances", but in practice it behaved exactly as a
DVD, as publishers were still allowed to insert piracy warnings,
trailers and ads.
The irony is that the reason streaming services felt so nice to use in
the beggining was that it was all this. A quick simple UI, clicking on
the movie and it would begin. No "politically incorrect" warning, no
prime video ad. It was much better than watching an original DVD or BD (except for not having the DTS HD and Dolby True HD audio tracks).
On 10/5/23 02:43, H1M3M wrote:
Did they start adding trailers before the Fast Play screen?
I always thought that the selling point was just the better quality.The main point, but they needed to sell the consumers on how it fixed
Wait, streaming services have ads?
Because for a very long time internet service was a local monopoly
throughout the vast majority of the US, the ISPs had no incentive to
upgrade their networks. That has only relatively recently changed
and upgrades are time and money intensive. The county I live in is
only now starting to plan for upgrades, probably to fiber optic.
candycanearter07 wrote:
On 10/5/23 02:43, H1M3M wrote:
Did they start adding trailers before the Fast Play screen?
On The Lion King diamond edition, they do. I'm not sure if the behaviour changes between regions.
Wait, streaming services have ads?
All of them have made the standard tier more expensive while adding an
ads tier. It's getting worse as Netflix is removing the old 720p tier
without ads, Disney Plus not only raised the prices but removed 4k and
atmos from the original plan and added the ad supported and 4k tiers...
And Prime Video, which so far only had an skippable add for other prime original shows at the beggining of a series or movie now show ads by
default unless you pay to remove them.
Shit. I remember that I got the prime sub back in 2016 when they added
prime gaming and it would remove the Twitch Ads (unless my memory is
failing me). In the end stopped removing the ads, and you can only have
one ad-free twitch channel per month if you use the prime sub on it.
Everything sucks, and once Netflix did it and apparently got away with
it, everybody followed suit. And when it comes to games, I remember when three years ago EA put ads on UFC4, a game that was anything but free to play.
I miss when games came in boxes, and all the advertising you would get
was a Nintendo Power leaflet or a pizza coupon.
Good luck with optic fiber. The ISP will attempt to put you on a CG-NAT
due to the IPv4 starvation, and it will mess VPNs big time if you are
working from home (and the routers tend to be completely locked to
prevent you from opening ports, forwarding, etc). I'm keeping my cable, static IP address and american branded fully configurable modem router
for as long as I can (No Huawei allowed by the client when you work on cybersecurity)
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
Because for a very long time internet service was a local monopoly
throughout the vast majority of the US, the ISPs had no incentive to
upgrade their networks. That has only relatively recently changed and
upgrades are time and money intensive. The county I live in is only
now starting to plan for upgrades, probably to fiber optic.
Good luck with optic fiber. The ISP will attempt to put you on a CG-NAT
due to the IPv4 starvation, and it will mess VPNs big time if you are
working from home (and the routers tend to be completely locked to
prevent you from opening ports, forwarding, etc). I'm keeping my cable, static IP address and american branded fully configurable modem router
for as long as I can (No Huawei allowed by the client when you work on cybersecurity)
The ISP that installed the cable network 13 years ago did it with public funding. When they had to upgrade it and pay it themselves, they opted
to sell the infrastructure to a chinese company that wanted to get in
the country, which is using their own network hardware. Nope, I already
have developed enough privacy paranoia thanks to my line of work.
Zaghadka wrote:
Uninstalled. I'm using Spotify and my local music now. I'm happy to
pay for the local mp3 music I want.
I'm probably unsubbing from Spotify too. Price hikes, worsening UI,
Insisting that I need to listen to their podcasts every time I open the
app (sure, because I am very comfortable with M$ insisting on Edge
Chromium every flipping time)... It's good for discovering music if you
can find the right playlists, but the sound quality is mediocre, and for
the price they plan to charge for lossless, I'd rather keep buying cds
(I have run out of space for vinyls) and ripping them to FLAC.
It got to the
point where some DVDs were advertised as "Fast Play! You can get to the
movie instantaneously".
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
Because for a very long time internet service was a local monopoly
throughout the vast majority of the US, the ISPs had no incentive to
upgrade their networks. That has only relatively recently changed
and upgrades are time and money intensive. The county I live in is
only now starting to plan for upgrades, probably to fiber optic.
Good luck with optic fiber. The ISP will attempt to put you on a CG-NAT
due to the IPv4 starvation, and it will mess VPNs big time if you are
working from home (and the routers tend to be completely locked to
prevent you from opening ports, forwarding, etc). I'm keeping my cable, >static IP address and american branded fully configurable modem router
for as long as I can (No Huawei allowed by the client when you work on >cybersecurity)
On 10/4/2023 8:09 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Fortunately, with my massive backlog, I'll never want for games when
that inevitable future finally arrives. Let EA / MicroActiBlizzSoft /
Ubisoft / Sony demand monthly fees... I'll just fire up the PC and
play my thousands of older titles. ;-)
You assume that They will allow your older games to work if you aren't a >subscriber.... *evil laughter*
Zaghadka wrote:
Uninstalled. I'm using Spotify and my local music now. I'm happy to
pay for the local mp3 music I want.
I'm probably unsubbing from Spotify too. Price hikes, worsening UI,
Insisting that I need to listen to their podcasts every time I open the
app (sure, because I am very comfortable with M$ insisting on Edge
Chromium every flipping time)... It's good for discovering music if you
can find the right playlists, but the sound quality is mediocre, and for
the price they plan to charge for lossless, I'd rather keep buying cds
(I have run out of space for vinyls) and ripping them to FLAC.
Zaghadka wrote:
"If you're watching this, you're probably not a pirate. Don't pirate
this movie!"
Unskippable.
It's like they want people to go yaarrr.
The piracy warning, then the unskippable trailers, which would made it
even worse than VHS and Beta where you could fast forward. It got to the >point where some DVDs were advertised as "Fast Play! You can get to the
movie instantaneously".
Blu-Ray was advertised as "The movie begins as soon as you insert the
discs, no menus or annoyances", but in practice it behaved exactly as a
DVD, as publishers were still allowed to insert piracy warnings,
trailers and ads.
No wonder I ripped my original DVD collection to ISO files, removing
both the skip protection and the region lock, as region free firmware
patches for the PC DVD Drive were always risky.
The irony is that the reason streaming services felt so nice to use in
the beggining was that it was all this. A quick simple UI, clicking on
the movie and it would begin. No "politically incorrect" warning, no
prime video ad. It was much better than watching an original DVD or BD >(except for not having the DTS HD and Dolby True HD audio tracks).
"You would not download a car".
Say hello to my Open Ascona for Asetto Corsa.
A life on the open sea, with a parrot on my shoulder is my future...
On 04/10/2023 13:00, Geeknix wrote:
A life on the open sea, with a parrot on my shoulder is my future...
I can certainly see where you're coming from there as many years ago I
used to download a lot of stuff from The Pirate Bay which either wasn't available, was available on DVD* but at silly prices (no I'm not paying
that much for a series that I previously watched for free) or what I
think of as time filler films for a Saturday evening on the sofa.
With the rise of the likes of Amazon Video, Netflix and Sky Boxsets
(plus them increasing the content offering particular of US crime drama
which my better half loves) I stopped downloading anything. They gave me
what I considered a fair offering for what we were getting.
The direction things are going now, give it a few years and I may join
you with getting a parrot!
On 2023-10-07, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 04/10/2023 13:00, Geeknix wrote:
A life on the open sea, with a parrot on my shoulder is my future...
I can certainly see where you're coming from there as many years ago I
used to download a lot of stuff from The Pirate Bay which either wasn't
available, was available on DVD* but at silly prices (no I'm not paying
that much for a series that I previously watched for free) or what I
think of as time filler films for a Saturday evening on the sofa.
With the rise of the likes of Amazon Video, Netflix and Sky Boxsets
(plus them increasing the content offering particular of US crime drama
which my better half loves) I stopped downloading anything. They gave me
what I considered a fair offering for what we were getting.
The direction things are going now, give it a few years and I may join
you with getting a parrot!
This is the same journey I've been on TBH. I am lucky in enjoying older movies from the 30/40/50s which I often find on YouTube and rip from
there.
I wonder if the studios monitor the level of pirating of their movies
and use that as a gauge how liked their portals are. General sentiment I
see is "I'd rather pay for a movie, but make it awkward then...".
I think the sentiment among many is "I'd pay for a movie but not if they
act like they don't want to make it possible for me to watch it and
treat me like a thief."
On 10/8/23 11:29, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
I think the sentiment among many is "I'd pay for a movie but not if
they act like they don't want to make it possible for me to watch it
and treat me like a thief."
Right?? It's like they don't want to sell it without making extra money
(at the cost of ux)
On 10/8/2023 4:30 AM, Geeknix wrote:
On 2023-10-07, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:I think the sentiment among many is "I'd pay for a movie but not if they
On 04/10/2023 13:00, Geeknix wrote:
A life on the open sea, with a parrot on my shoulder is my future...
I can certainly see where you're coming from there as many years ago I
used to download a lot of stuff from The Pirate Bay which either wasn't
available, was available on DVD* but at silly prices (no I'm not paying
that much for a series that I previously watched for free) or what I
think of as time filler films for a Saturday evening on the sofa.
With the rise of the likes of Amazon Video, Netflix and Sky Boxsets
(plus them increasing the content offering particular of US crime drama
which my better half loves) I stopped downloading anything. They gave me >>> what I considered a fair offering for what we were getting.
The direction things are going now, give it a few years and I may join
you with getting a parrot!
This is the same journey I've been on TBH. I am lucky in enjoying older
movies from the 30/40/50s which I often find on YouTube and rip from
there.
I wonder if the studios monitor the level of pirating of their movies
and use that as a gauge how liked their portals are. General sentiment I
see is "I'd rather pay for a movie, but make it awkward then...".
act like they don't want to make it possible for me to watch it and
treat me like a thief."
On 2023-10-07, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 04/10/2023 13:00, Geeknix wrote:
A life on the open sea, with a parrot on my shoulder is my future...
I can certainly see where you're coming from there as many years ago I
used to download a lot of stuff from The Pirate Bay which either wasn't
available, was available on DVD* but at silly prices (no I'm not paying
that much for a series that I previously watched for free) or what I
think of as time filler films for a Saturday evening on the sofa.
With the rise of the likes of Amazon Video, Netflix and Sky Boxsets
(plus them increasing the content offering particular of US crime drama
which my better half loves) I stopped downloading anything. They gave me
what I considered a fair offering for what we were getting.
The direction things are going now, give it a few years and I may join
you with getting a parrot!
This is the same journey I've been on TBH. I am lucky in enjoying older movies from the 30/40/50s which I often find on YouTube and rip from
there.
I wonder if the studios monitor the level of pirating of their movies
and use that as a gauge how liked their portals are. General sentiment I
see is "I'd rather pay for a movie, but make it awkward then...".
Saying that I do have some sympathy as from a streaming service point of
view I'm not sure what you can offer besides this is the content they
have so subscribe with us.
Give us what we want. The basic movie, no fucking ads, no
commentary, no unskippable anything for about $15. We'll buy it!
But when it's loaded down with disclaimers and is some fucking
money-grab combo pack for $59.99, go figure why people would rather
download it.
Who's responsible for piracy - the studios themselves.
Xocyll wrote:
Give us what we want. The basic movie, no fucking ads, no
commentary, no unskippable anything for about $15. We'll buy it!
That used to be Streaming services in a nutshell, during their golden
era (2015 netflix, 2016 prime video when it released where I live)
But when it's loaded down with disclaimers and is some fucking
money-grab combo pack for $59.99, go figure why people would rather
download it.
Who's responsible for piracy - the studios themselves.
And that's where we seem to be going... Again. Streaming became a good
answer to bloated DVDs. Once they got to power, they became the whole
thing they were fight ag-
I really can't have a single day without quoting Star Wars, huh?
And that's where we seem to be going... Again. Streaming became a good
answer to bloated DVDs. Once they got to power, they became the whole
thing they were fight ag-
I really can't have a single day without quoting Star Wars, huh?
You'd kinda think that companies would have learnt their lesson that
there's a group of people that will pirate media no matter what you
throw at them but there's also a larger group of people that if you give
them what they think is a reasonable alternative they'll be quite happy
to pay for it but, as you say, if you make it too awkward then they will pirate it instead.
On 10/9/23 09:31, H1M3M wrote:
And that's where we seem to be going... Again. Streaming became a good
answer to bloated DVDs. Once they got to power, they became the whole
thing they were fight ag-
I really can't have a single day without quoting Star Wars, huh?
Can't wait for the next big thing that's an answer to bloated streaming services also getting destroyed.
On 10/9/23 06:04, JAB wrote:
You'd kinda think that companies would have learnt their lesson that
there's a group of people that will pirate media no matter what you
throw at them but there's also a larger group of people that if you
give them what they think is a reasonable alternative they'll be quite
happy to pay for it but, as you say, if you make it too awkward then
they will pirate it instead.
That would require companies understanding what the average consumer
wants. And most don't.
On 10/9/23 06:04, JAB wrote:
You'd kinda think that companies would have learnt their lesson that
there's a group of people that will pirate media no matter what you
throw at them but there's also a larger group of people that if you give
them what they think is a reasonable alternative they'll be quite happy
to pay for it but, as you say, if you make it too awkward then they will
pirate it instead.
That would require companies understanding what the average consumer
wants. And most don't.
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