Or, you know, just install Linux. You'll probably get better
performance, and odds are the older games that old hardware supports
will run just fine too.
Or, you know, just install Linux. You'll probably get better
performance, and odds are the older games that old hardware supports
will run just fine too.
Myself, I have a handful of PCs still lingering on Windows7 (largely
because I was too lazy to do anything about it, and figured there
would always be an opportunity later). I might as well start the
upgrade process now.
On 10/1/23 10:07, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Or, you know, just install Linux. You'll probably get better
performance, and odds are the older games that old hardware supports
will run just fine too.
Linux is great once you learn it.
Windows 11 is what made me start migrating to Linux. I was never happy
with 10, but between 11, and the push to shove AI tools like Copilot was
too much. Now I just need to gather the courage to get out of my Debian comfort zone and try Arch.
Performance with Linux will still depend on driver support, and if you
are using Intel / Nvidia, the closed nature of the drivers may led to a
loss of performance. I never considered AMD hardware until I began
migrating to Linux.
Myself, I have a handful of PCs still lingering on Windows7 (largely
because I was too lazy to do anything about it, and figured there
would always be an opportunity later). I might as well start the
upgrade process now.
If you intend to keep using W7, don't forget to use a patch / fix to
remove all the telemetry they added some years ago. Switching to
cumulative patches where you can't choose what needs to be installed was
a massive dick move.
My favorite distro is Debian rn.
On 10/2/23 09:25, Zaghadka wrote:
My favorite distro is Debian rn.
Debian is great for stability, yeah.
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Or, you know, just install Linux. You'll probably get better
performance, and odds are the older games that old hardware supports
will run just fine too.
Windows 11 is what made me start migrating to Linux. I was never happy
with 10, but between 11, and the push to shove AI tools like Copilot was
too much. Now I just need to gather the courage to get out of my Debian comfort zone and try Arch.
Performance with Linux will still depend on driver support, and if you
are using Intel / Nvidia, the closed nature of the drivers may led to a
loss of performance. I never considered AMD hardware until I began
migrating to Linux.
If you haven't upgraded your Windows7 PC yet, time may be running out.
Microsoft allowed owners of Windows7 to upgrade for free to Windows
10. The serial used to register Windows7 would also authorize a
Windows 10 license too. Officially, this offer ended years ago, but
Microsoft never really disabled the offer. But now they're making
signs that this long period of forgiveness is finally coming to an
end.
So, if you ever intended to upgrade Windows7 to Windows10, better do
it sooner rather than later. You may not get the chance otherwise.
(As of 30 Sept 2023, you could still upgrade to Windows10 using a
Windows 7 key.)
Or, you know, just install Linux. You'll probably get better
performance, and odds are the older games that old hardware supports
will run just fine too.
Myself, I have a handful of PCs still lingering on Windows7 (largely
because I was too lazy to do anything about it, and figured there
would always be an opportunity later). I might as well start the
upgrade process now.
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/microsoft-kills-loophole-that-let-windows-7-keys-activate-windows-11-and-10?s=31
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
On 10/2/23 09:25, Zaghadka wrote:
My favorite distro is Debian rn.
Debian is great for stability, yeah.
Ditto. Is anyone using Linux for gaming? ;)
Ditto. Is anyone using Linux for gaming? ;)
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
If you haven't upgraded your Windows7 PC yet, time may be running out.
I don't want to use my activated W7 though. Is there a way to add our W7 keys into our MS accounts for future activations?
So I haven't really tried any heavier game in Linux since Talos
Principle a few years ago and that had some pretty ugly framerate drops
in some places.
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
On 10/2/23 09:25, Zaghadka wrote:
My favorite distro is Debian rn.
Debian is great for stability, yeah.
Ditto. Is anyone using Linux for gaming? ;)
IMO, Win7 was the last truly good Windows. W8 was fine but annoying, W10
was frustrating, and W11 was *bad*.
If Linux has truly become a gaming OS I might have to take a look at it
again (did years ago and ended up with a half Slackware/half redhat
thing cause of a window manager (enlightenment?) I wanted to use.)
Ultimately went back to windows since game support at the time consisted
of a Quake port I think and not much else.
Xocyll
On 10/2/23 23:55, Ant wrote:Me too.
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
On 10/2/23 09:25, Zaghadka wrote:
My favorite distro is Debian rn.
Debian is great for stability, yeah.
Ditto. Is anyone using Linux for gaming? ;)
Me
Game support is way better nowadays, thanks to Steams efforts.
candycanearter07 wrote:
Game support is way better nowadays, thanks to Steams efforts.
I can vouch for that. Steam Deck has changed my perception of gaming on
Linux (GNU/Linux if somebody from the FSF is reading this). It's crazy
how far Wine / Proton has gotten. Lutris being able to install games
from Gog, Prime Gaming, Epic, etc is also a big plus. I just got an
extra SDD, so I'm going to see if can replicate the Arch Linux / Steam
OS experience on Debian 12.
Only issue is the stuff that uses anticheat services, don't give a crap
about free software, and whose owners will be downright hostile towards
the consumer to the point of banning the player for using Linux. Bungie
and Destiny 2 can go fudge themselves, and we won't miss a lot.
On Tue, 03 Oct 2023 04:55:40 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
On 10/2/23 09:25, Zaghadka wrote:
My favorite distro is Debian rn.
Debian is great for stability, yeah.
Ditto. Is anyone using Linux for gaming? ;)
Yes...ish?
I have (several) PCs with varying flavours of Linux. I sometimes play
games on them. The PCs themselves aren't my most powerful so I'm not
playing the high-end games (In fact, since most of my Linux PCs are
laptops - which I use on-the-go - playing games tends to drain the
battery to fast to really make it worthwhile). Still, I have played
games on those PCs (most notably, "Civilization IV", which is
something of a go-to game while I'm on the go, for some reason). And, generally, Linux works pretty well... especially for older games. Some titles, of course, have native version but WINE/PROTON support is impressively good. Not perfect, but good enough for most titles I
play.
But Windows - in its various iterations - still remains my primary
gaming platform.
On 03/10/2023 18:03, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Tue, 03 Oct 2023 04:55:40 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
On 10/2/23 09:25, Zaghadka wrote:
My favorite distro is Debian rn.
Debian is great for stability, yeah.
Ditto. Is anyone using Linux for gaming? ;)
Yes...ish?
I have (several) PCs with varying flavours of Linux. I sometimes play
games on them. The PCs themselves aren't my most powerful so I'm not
playing the high-end games (In fact, since most of my Linux PCs are
laptops - which I use on-the-go - playing games tends to drain the
battery to fast to really make it worthwhile). Still, I have played
games on those PCs (most notably, "Civilization IV", which is
something of a go-to game while I'm on the go, for some reason). And,
generally, Linux works pretty well... especially for older games. Some
titles, of course, have native version but WINE/PROTON support is
impressively good. Not perfect, but good enough for most titles I
play.
But Windows - in its various iterations - still remains my primary
gaming platform.
I have thought about making a dual boot system but on reflection I came
to the conclusion of what's the point. My PC's main function, indeed
almost only but I do use it as a VTT and a Specky 48k emulator, is web >access, this NG and games. There's nothing wrong with Linux (I much
prefer it as a dev. platform) but for my home PC, it really doesn't give
me anything except some possible negatives.
If you haven't upgraded your Windows7 PC yet, time may be running out.
On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 11:07:29 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
If you haven't upgraded your Windows7 PC yet, time may be running out.
Updated:
Well, I finished upgrading all my Win7 PCs to Win10. Well, all the PCs
I /wanted/ to upgrade, anyway.
It was a fairly painless process, especially when I did an "in-place"
upgrade that just updated the OS without wiping first (I know, I know,
but these aren't PCs that get much use. And I was too lazy to have to
do it the 'proper' way on all those older PCs).
Benchmarks, though, reveal around a 10% drop in performance, which I
found quite surprising; so much was said about how great Win10 was for gaming. For some of those PCs, I could almost understand it (honestly,
one of those laptops never should even have had Windows7 installed on
it, it was so underpowered) but most of them were well above the
minimum recommended system requirements. At first, I thought maybe it
was because I did an in-place install, so I tested with a
clean-install, but no.
Still, a 10% performance loss really isn't noticable and it's not like
I'm stuck with the OS. Or that it really matters for PCs that spend
most of their life powered off. I just found it amusing. And, overall,
I'm glad I took advantage of the offer before it disappeared.
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 10:08:33 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB wrote:
I have thought about making a dual boot system but on reflection I came
to the conclusion of what's the point. My PC's main function, indeed
almost only but I do use it as a VTT and a Specky 48k emulator, is web
access, this NG and games. There's nothing wrong with Linux (I much
prefer it as a dev. platform) but for my home PC, it really doesn't give
me anything except some possible negatives.
For the virtues of it, you might run it in VirtualBox. Then you can wean yourself off Windows until you're ready to make the switch.
On 04/10/2023 14:56, Zaghadka wrote:
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 10:08:33 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB
wrote:
I have thought about making a dual boot system but on reflection I came
to the conclusion of what's the point. My PC's main function, indeed
almost only but I do use it as a VTT and a Specky 48k emulator, is web
access, this NG and games. There's nothing wrong with Linux (I much
prefer it as a dev. platform) but for my home PC, it really doesn't give >>> me anything except some possible negatives.
For the virtues of it, you might run it in VirtualBox. Then you can wean
yourself off Windows until you're ready to make the switch.
I have used VB for work with Linux but when it comes to home use I still >think it really doesn't give me any upsides compared to using Win 10 for
what I use my PC for.
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