• The Secret of Sea of Thieves

    From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 11:50:36 2023
    Why didn't anyone tell me this thing existed?

    I never got into "Sea of Thieves". Generally, games about pirates
    aren't a genre that appeal to me. Sure, I had fun singing sea shanties
    along with my crew in "Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag" but that really
    was more the exception to the rule. So "Sea of Thieves", a game all
    about recreating high-seas adventures, flew beneath the radar for me.
    I knew it was there, but didn't really care.

    Except now I learn about this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSx2oVj_Qmk

    They made a "Monkey Island" DLC for the game where you can follow the
    footsteps of the 'legendary' Threepwood, explore the eponymous island,
    interact with LeChuck, and more. The DLC is even rendered in a more
    cartoony style than the rest of the game.

    "Return to Monkey Island" left me cold, but I may have to buy "Sea of
    Thieves" now...

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Sep 29 11:15:53 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:50:47 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Why didn't anyone tell me this thing existed?

    I never got into "Sea of Thieves". Generally, games about pirates
    aren't a genre that appeal to me. Sure, I had fun singing sea shanties
    along with my crew in "Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag" but that really
    was more the exception to the rule. So "Sea of Thieves", a game all
    about recreating high-seas adventures, flew beneath the radar for me.
    I knew it was there, but didn't really care.

    Except now I learn about this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSx2oVj_Qmk

    They made a "Monkey Island" DLC for the game where you can follow the footsteps of the 'legendary' Threepwood, explore the eponymous island, interact with LeChuck, and more. The DLC is even rendered in a more
    cartoony style than the rest of the game.

    "Return to Monkey Island" left me cold, but I may have to buy "Sea of Thieves" now...

    It sounded interesting, but everything I've read about it in the past said
    I needed to avoid it like the plague. An online multiplayer PVP gank fest.

    - Justisaur

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to justisaur@gmail.com on Fri Sep 29 21:01:49 2023
    On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 11:15:53 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
    <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:50:47?AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Why didn't anyone tell me this thing existed?

    I never got into "Sea of Thieves". Generally, games about pirates
    aren't a genre that appeal to me. Sure, I had fun singing sea shanties
    along with my crew in "Assassins Creed 4: Black Flag" but that really
    was more the exception to the rule. So "Sea of Thieves", a game all
    about recreating high-seas adventures, flew beneath the radar for me.
    I knew it was there, but didn't really care.

    Except now I learn about this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSx2oVj_Qmk

    They made a "Monkey Island" DLC for the game where you can follow the
    footsteps of the 'legendary' Threepwood, explore the eponymous island,
    interact with LeChuck, and more. The DLC is even rendered in a more
    cartoony style than the rest of the game.

    "Return to Monkey Island" left me cold, but I may have to buy "Sea of
    Thieves" now...

    It sounded interesting, but everything I've read about it in the past said
    I needed to avoid it like the plague. An online multiplayer PVP gank fest.

    - Justisaur

    *--

    Isn't there a single player option? I thought I read that. I just
    bought it but haven't downloaded it. And will get a refund if only
    MP.

    -pw

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.co on Sat Sep 30 08:37:25 2023
    On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 21:01:49 -0600, PW
    <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:

    Isn't there a single player option? I thought I read that. I just
    bought it but haven't downloaded it. And will get a refund if only
    MP.

    That's the primary reason I haven't finalized my purchase, too.


    According to a Steam forum post:

    "At the moment, you can play solo (closed crew), but
    there are others in the world. In December, Safer Seas
    will launch, but it will have restrictions as to what
    you can do.

    If you're looking to avoid interactions with others, then
    no, it doesn't have a 'solo' (alone) experience; if you're
    looking to play in the world with others, but not in the
    same crew, yes, it does, but it's largely PvP.

    In December, Safer Seas will allow you to be alone."

    Another user writes:

    "Safer Seas offers nearly all the content and
    activities of the main game. Don't be fooled -
    there is very little that you cannot do on these
    and the whole map is there for you to explore, along
    all of the other locations to visit and activities
    to do.

    Effectively, you miss out only on these things:
    - Captained Ships
    - Emissaries
    - Athena
    - Reaper
    - Hourglass
    - Certain world events that spawn Athena
    loot (FoF, FotD)

    Captained Ship voyages are very, VERY similar to
    standard voyages, nothing lost here. Emissaries
    don't offer unique voyages, nothing lost here.
    Athena, yeah it has one unique voyage, Legend of
    the Veil, that is something that you cannot do
    here unfortunately. Reapers don't have voyages.
    Hourglass is a PvP on demand system, as such
    understandably not available in a no-PvP mode.
    And world events, FotD is locked out due to
    the inability to get all the flames required
    to activate it, and FoF spawns Athena loot,
    as well as a special chest that has been added
    to get people to fight over the fort more in
    High Seas servers, as such it is understandly
    not available for you to do.

    No specifics about other world events or random
    encounters but they haven't been said to have
    been removed. FoF spawns the same enemies as
    the Ashen Winds and Skeleton Fort events, so
    technically nothing really lost here. The boss
    that spawns in FotD also spawns as part of a Tall
    Tale. You're only really missing out on the
    differently colored shadow skeletons, but normal
    shadow skeletons do spawn as part of normal
    voyages and aren't really much different
    mechanically - just that they work with any
    light vs FotD needs specific colored light.

    Conclusion? If you just want to experience the
    game and don't care too much about losing out
    on certain progression that is either capped
    or unavailable, you get 99% of the game in
    a PvE only environment. If you do specifically
    care to unlock certain things however, then
    it would be disappointing yes.

    Without a Captained Ship you can't unlock trinkets.
    Without Emissaries, you cannot progress the monthly
    ledger to unlock emissary cosmetics. Without
    Athena and Reaper, you can't progress any of these
    factions at all. Without the Hourglass being
    usable, you cannot use it to PvE farm allegience.
    And without certain world events, you cannot unlock
    the Chest of Fortune's specific cosmetic that you
    get awarded for turning in 30 of these. Nothing
    really changes about the general activities you
    do in this game, though."



    Well... that just killed all of my desire to play this game, /despite/
    the Monkey Island tie-in.

    At least until December, when - following the 'Safer Seas' release - I
    may give the game a re-consideration.

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Sep 30 10:01:35 2023
    On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 11:50:36 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    "Return to Monkey Island" left me cold, but I may have to buy "Sea of >Thieves" now...

    I own Sea of Thieves. I played once and immediately ditched it. There are
    no quality of life conveniencies in the game. You have to man everything.
    The sails, including trimming them on the seas. The helm. The guns. Weigh anchor. You basically run an actual ship. It pretty much required
    multiplayer at the time I played.

    Navigation was also very realistic and a bitch.

    So understand, at least from my experience several years ago, that you
    are getting into an almost sailing simulator. Not quite, but launching a
    boat onto the ocean is non-trivial.

    That said, the game is still being maintained all these years later (!),
    and "sailing simulator" should be right up your alley Mr. Truck Simulator player.

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 30 19:34:41 2023
    On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 08:37:25 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson


    Well... that just killed all of my desire to play this game, /despite/
    the Monkey Island tie-in.

    At least until December, when - following the 'Safer Seas' release - I
    may give the game a re-consideration.

    *--

    Thank you very much Spalls. I am going to try it for a few minutes
    then get a refund.

    I do not want another Diablo 4 which I have bascially quit playing
    because it does not have a true single player game.

    -pw

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Sun Oct 1 06:02:34 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 8:01:39 AM UTC-7, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 11:50:36 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    "Return to Monkey Island" left me cold, but I may have to buy "Sea of >Thieves" now...

    I own Sea of Thieves. I played once and immediately ditched it. There are
    no quality of life conveniencies in the game. You have to man everything. The sails, including trimming them on the seas. The helm. The guns. Weigh anchor. You basically run an actual ship. It pretty much required multiplayer at the time I played.

    I wonder how/if that's going to work on "safer seas." Manning a whole
    ship by yourself doesn't sound

    I forgot to mention from what I've read it's the worst kind of PVP as well,
    the kind where if you're defeated, any loot you've gotten is taken by
    the winner.

    - Justisaur

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Sun Oct 1 18:07:11 2023
    On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 06:02:34 -0700 (PDT), in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Justisaur wrote:

    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 8:01:39?AM UTC-7, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 11:50:36 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    "Return to Monkey Island" left me cold, but I may have to buy "Sea of
    Thieves" now...

    I own Sea of Thieves. I played once and immediately ditched it. There are
    no quality of life conveniencies in the game. You have to man everything.
    The sails, including trimming them on the seas. The helm. The guns. Weigh
    anchor. You basically run an actual ship. It pretty much required
    multiplayer at the time I played.

    I wonder how/if that's going to work on "safer seas." Manning a whole
    ship by yourself doesn't sound

    I forgot to mention from what I've read it's the worst kind of PVP as well, >the kind where if you're defeated, any loot you've gotten is taken by
    the winner.

    If there aren't any sploitz being used (fat chance), that actually meets
    the theme of the game. You really are just doing pirate simulator, and
    enemy pirates controlled by the other players should be a thing.

    Frustrating, but consistent.

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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