• Re: FREE GAMES: "Model Builder" and "Soulstice"

    From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Sep 28 08:05:55 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 8:01:33 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Hey! It's Thursday, and you know what happens on Thursdays, right?
    That's right... we ask ChatGPT to craft us a joke involving the free
    games from Epic Games store! (What, you thought it was something
    else?) Let's see what it came up with:

    Q: Why did the game developer go broke after releasing
    their game for free on the Epic Games Store?
    A: Because they couldn't count on any Epic profits!


    Ha-ha? Well, a working humor module is probably something they're
    building into the NEXT version of ChatGPT.

    Anyway, Thursday /also/ means free games (although I'm sure that's
    much less important to people here, right? ;-). This week we get:



    * Model Builder
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/model-builder-f9b456
    Looking at this game, I get the same feeling other
    people probably get when I tell them I enjoy titles like
    "Truck Simulator" or "Lawn Mower Simulator": what's the
    point? I'd much rather build a model for real than do
    it virtually. Then again, maybe I do understand: modeling
    can be expensive and messy, and this game lets you create
    perfect models without all the inconveniences. And it
    actually looks pretty competent at how it presents the
    hobby. But I think I still would rather do it for real.


    * Soulstice
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/soulstice
    This game gets a 10-point boost just for its punnish title.
    But beyond that, it doesn't look particularly exciting to me:
    an Indie 'Devil May Cry" clone with less style and character.
    It doesn't look like a bad game, but neither does it stand
    out in any way. It's a game I'll happily grab, and then
    just as happily forget about.


    I was about to skip it again, as getting into the Epic client is
    such a pain in the ass it's usually not worth the hassle, but
    DMC clone got me.

    - Justisaur

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 11:01:21 2023
    Hey! It's Thursday, and you know what happens on Thursdays, right?
    That's right... we ask ChatGPT to craft us a joke involving the free
    games from Epic Games store! (What, you thought it was something
    else?) Let's see what it came up with:

    Q: Why did the game developer go broke after releasing
    their game for free on the Epic Games Store?
    A: Because they couldn't count on any Epic profits!


    Ha-ha? Well, a working humor module is probably something they're
    building into the NEXT version of ChatGPT.

    Anyway, Thursday /also/ means free games (although I'm sure that's
    much less important to people here, right? ;-). This week we get:



    * Model Builder
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/model-builder-f9b456
    Looking at this game, I get the same feeling other
    people probably get when I tell them I enjoy titles like
    "Truck Simulator" or "Lawn Mower Simulator": what's the
    point? I'd much rather build a model for real than do
    it virtually. Then again, maybe I do understand: modeling
    can be expensive and messy, and this game lets you create
    perfect models without all the inconveniences. And it
    actually looks pretty competent at how it presents the
    hobby. But I think I still would rather do it for real.


    * Soulstice
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/soulstice
    This game gets a 10-point boost just for its punnish title.
    But beyond that, it doesn't look particularly exciting to me:
    an Indie 'Devil May Cry" clone with less style and character.
    It doesn't look like a bad game, but neither does it stand
    out in any way. It's a game I'll happily grab, and then
    just as happily forget about.



    Still, compared to some recent offerings from Epic, this week's games
    are tolerable; I can appreciate the off-beat stuff it looks
    competently made. So The Number (tm) has gone up by two, in my case.
    How about you? Will either (or both) of these games grace your
    video-game library? You have seven days to decide.

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Sep 28 11:40:00 2023
    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:01:21 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    * Soulstice
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/soulstice
    This game gets a 10-point boost just for its punnish title.
    But beyond that, it doesn't look particularly exciting to me:
    an Indie 'Devil May Cry" clone with less style and character.
    It doesn't look like a bad game, but neither does it stand
    out in any way. It's a game I'll happily grab, and then
    just as happily forget about.

    Are you sure it's not a "Dark Souls" clone? By the title I was guessing
    that it was a soulslike game, and the video looks like it very well might
    be.

    Anyway, grabbed it.

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Thu Sep 28 10:09:33 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 9:40:03 AM UTC-7, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:01:21 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    * Soulstice
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/soulstice
    This game gets a 10-point boost just for its punnish title.
    But beyond that, it doesn't look particularly exciting to me:
    an Indie 'Devil May Cry" clone with less style and character.
    It doesn't look like a bad game, but neither does it stand
    out in any way. It's a game I'll happily grab, and then
    just as happily forget about.
    Are you sure it's not a "Dark Souls" clone? By the title I was guessing
    that it was a soulslike game, and the video looks like it very well might be.


    I was thinking it looked more Dark Souls like. Digging into it, seems atmosphere was mostly dark souls, but it's a faster hack and slash
    like Devil May Cry.

    Something free I actually want to give a try. I did enjoy DMC on the
    PS2 a long time ago, but I haven't really gotten into that kind of game
    in a long time, though I've tried a few, Bayonetta I think?

    - Justisaur

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 13:51:46 2023
    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:40:00 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:01:21 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    * Soulstice
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/soulstice
    But beyond that, it doesn't look particularly exciting to me:
    an Indie 'Devil May Cry" clone with less style and character.


    Are you sure it's not a "Dark Souls" clone? By the title I was guessing
    that it was a soulslike game, and the video looks like it very well might
    be.

    The gameplay is a lot more frenetic and fast-paced. I mean, there
    always was some overlap between the two genres to begin with, and
    doubtlessly "Soulstice" takes some lessons from the Souls genre, but
    the combat in "Soulstice" is more about quick reactions and combos
    than the more measured slash/parry/block of a Souls-like games. You
    also have a lot less control over the camera than you do in a typical Souls-clone.

    So while I can see some similarity to modern hack-n-slashers, on the
    whole, "Soulstice" owes more to games like "Devil May Cry" or "God of
    War" rather than to "Dark Souls". Which isn't to say that fans of
    Souls-likes won't find things to like in "Soulstice", but they
    shouldn't be expecting the same type of gameplay.

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  • From Geeknix@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Sep 29 00:30:04 2023
    On 2023-09-28, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Anyway, Thursday /also/ means free games (although I'm sure that's
    much less important to people here, right? ;-). This week we get:

    I wonder what the future of free games will be after Epic announced 16% reduction in staff. Don't know the details yet, beyond "layoffs outside
    core products", Plus the usual CEO gumph:

    "We have no further planned layoffs after this round"

    Yeah, /for now/ you don't. Have heard this statement once too often,
    then tomorrow they start planning next round of cuts. So the statement
    was correct for 24h. Hmm sounds a bit bitter, I just hate these
    statements, just don't bother saying anything.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Sep 29 01:38:33 2023
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hey! It's Thursday, and you know what happens on Thursdays, right?
    That's right... we ask ChatGPT to craft us a joke involving the free
    games from Epic Games store! (What, you thought it was something
    else?) Let's see what it came up with:

    Q: Why did the game developer go broke after releasing
    their game for free on the Epic Games Store?
    A: Because they couldn't count on any Epic profits!


    Ha-ha? Well, a working humor module is probably something they're
    building into the NEXT version of ChatGPT.

    Ha ha.


    Anyway, Thursday /also/ means free games (although I'm sure that's
    much less important to people here, right? ;-). This week we get:



    * Model Builder
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/model-builder-f9b456
    Looking at this game, I get the same feeling other
    people probably get when I tell them I enjoy titles like
    "Truck Simulator" or "Lawn Mower Simulator": what's the
    point? I'd much rather build a model for real than do
    it virtually. Then again, maybe I do understand: modeling
    can be expensive and messy, and this game lets you create
    perfect models without all the inconveniences. And it
    actually looks pretty competent at how it presents the
    hobby. But I think I still would rather do it for real.

    Meh. Passed.


    * Soulstice
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/soulstice
    This game gets a 10-point boost just for its punnish title.
    But beyond that, it doesn't look particularly exciting to me:
    an Indie 'Devil May Cry" clone with less style and character.
    It doesn't look like a bad game, but neither does it stand
    out in any way. It's a game I'll happily grab, and then
    just as happily forget about.

    So so ratings. I took it anyways, but I doubt I will play it ever.


    Still, compared to some recent offerings from Epic, this week's games
    are tolerable; I can appreciate the off-beat stuff it looks
    competently made. So The Number (tm) has gone up by two, in my case.
    How about you? Will either (or both) of these games grace your
    video-game library? You have seven days to decide.

    :P
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Ant on Fri Sep 29 01:39:55 2023
    Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    ...
    * Soulstice
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/soulstice
    This game gets a 10-point boost just for its punnish title.
    But beyond that, it doesn't look particularly exciting to me:
    an Indie 'Devil May Cry" clone with less style and character.
    It doesn't look like a bad game, but neither does it stand
    out in any way. It's a game I'll happily grab, and then
    just as happily forget about.

    So so ratings. I took it anyways, but I doubt I will play it ever.

    Stuck with "Loading your order..." :(
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  • From PW@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Thu Sep 28 19:58:59 2023
    On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 11:01:21 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Hey! It's Thursday, and you know what happens on Thursdays, right?
    That's right... we ask ChatGPT to craft us a joke involving the free
    games from Epic Games store! (What, you thought it was something
    else?) Let's see what it came up with:

    Q: Why did the game developer go broke after releasing
    their game for free on the Epic Games Store?
    A: Because they couldn't count on any Epic profits!


    Ha-ha? Well, a working humor module is probably something they're
    building into the NEXT version of ChatGPT.

    Anyway, Thursday /also/ means free games (although I'm sure that's
    much less important to people here, right? ;-). This week we get:



    * Model Builder
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/model-builder-f9b456
    Looking at this game, I get the same feeling other
    people probably get when I tell them I enjoy titles like
    "Truck Simulator" or "Lawn Mower Simulator": what's the
    point? I'd much rather build a model for real than do
    it virtually. Then again, maybe I do understand: modeling
    can be expensive and messy, and this game lets you create
    perfect models without all the inconveniences. And it
    actually looks pretty competent at how it presents the
    hobby. But I think I still would rather do it for real.


    * Soulstice
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/soulstice
    This game gets a 10-point boost just for its punnish title.
    But beyond that, it doesn't look particularly exciting to me:
    an Indie 'Devil May Cry" clone with less style and character.
    It doesn't look like a bad game, but neither does it stand
    out in any way. It's a game I'll happily grab, and then
    just as happily forget about.



    Still, compared to some recent offerings from Epic, this week's games
    are tolerable; I can appreciate the off-beat stuff it looks
    competently made. So The Number (tm) has gone up by two, in my case.
    How about you? Will either (or both) of these games grace your
    video-game library? You have seven days to decide.


    *--
    Added both. Actually installing the model one!

    -pw

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  • From H1M3M@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Sep 29 08:51:23 2023
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    * Model Builder
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/model-builder-f9b456
    Looking at this game, I get the same feeling other
    people probably get when I tell them I enjoy titles like
    "Truck Simulator" or "Lawn Mower Simulator": what's the
    point? I'd much rather build a model for real than do
    it virtually. Then again, maybe I do understand: modeling
    can be expensive and messy, and this game lets you create
    perfect models without all the inconveniences. And it
    actually looks pretty competent at how it presents the
    hobby. But I think I still would rather do it for real.

    I got model builder on Steam at release. I do hope they have fixed
    performance. I would spend more time looking at the virtual hobby room
    thinking "Man, I wish I could afford all those tools in real life".

    What disappointed me is that it practically autocuts the pieces from the plastic, while I was hoping for physics there to see how the plastic
    could get damaged if you don't do it right before having an accident
    with an actual plamo.

    Being honest, I would recommend the virtual model kit minigame on Last
    BBS. Thankfully the game is available DRM-Free on GOG.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Sep 29 10:06:19 2023
    On 28/09/2023 16:01, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    * Model Builder
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/model-builder-f9b456
    Looking at this game, I get the same feeling other
    people probably get when I tell them I enjoy titles like
    "Truck Simulator" or "Lawn Mower Simulator": what's the
    point? I'd much rather build a model for real than do
    it virtually. Then again, maybe I do understand: modeling
    can be expensive and messy, and this game lets you create
    perfect models without all the inconveniences. And it
    actually looks pretty competent at how it presents the
    hobby. But I think I still would rather do it for real.

    Games like Truck Simulator aren't my cup of tea but I do understand
    (kinda anyway) why people like them. Model Builder, I suppose I can see
    why it might be attractive to some but for me it misses key aspects of
    why people do modelling. So a big one is the physicality of it. Then
    modelling has rather moved on from the 80's and weathering has become a
    core aspect of it for many people. Next up, making the model your own
    whether it's as simple as getting a different set of decals, adding
    extra details or just using after market parts. The list could go on.

    The price part, no it's not cheap but it's not that expensive just to
    get a basic set-up and then add to it over time but it is correct to
    that it really isn't the buying kits with pocket money that it used to
    be. Now can you spend some serious money, absolutely you can (and I know
    people who do) but you don't have to. Space and convenience, of yes but
    I also know people who's modelling space is no more than a small desk.

    So overall I'm can't really say it represents anything but a small part
    of the hobby. Of course if it gets people into the actual hobby then I'm
    all for it because people are dying at an alarming rate!

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Sep 29 11:33:17 2023
    On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 10:06:19 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 28/09/2023 16:01, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    * Model Builder
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/model-builder-f9b456
    Looking at this game, I get the same feeling other
    people probably get when I tell them I enjoy titles like
    "Truck Simulator" or "Lawn Mower Simulator": what's the
    point? I'd much rather build a model for real than do
    it virtually. Then again, maybe I do understand: modeling
    can be expensive and messy, and this game lets you create
    perfect models without all the inconveniences. And it
    actually looks pretty competent at how it presents the
    hobby. But I think I still would rather do it for real.

    Games like Truck Simulator aren't my cup of tea but I do understand
    (kinda anyway) why people like them. Model Builder, I suppose I can see
    why it might be attractive to some but for me it misses key aspects of
    why people do modelling. So a big one is the physicality of it. Then >modelling has rather moved on from the 80's and weathering has become a
    core aspect of it for many people. Next up, making the model your own
    whether it's as simple as getting a different set of decals, adding
    extra details or just using after market parts. The list could go on.

    The price part, no it's not cheap but it's not that expensive just to
    get a basic set-up and then add to it over time but it is correct to
    that it really isn't the buying kits with pocket money that it used to
    be. Now can you spend some serious money, absolutely you can (and I know >people who do) but you don't have to. Space and convenience, of yes but
    I also know people who's modelling space is no more than a small desk.

    So overall I'm can't really say it represents anything but a small part
    of the hobby. Of course if it gets people into the actual hobby then I'm
    all for it because people are dying at an alarming rate!

    That's a shame. I have a lot of fond memories of building models in my
    younger days. But I've given it up, mostly due to a lack of space: not
    just for the assembly, or tools, but to display the finished product.
    For some reasons, all my shelves and closests are full. ;-)

    I still enjoy watching modellers on YouTube do their thing (especially
    the ones who do dioramas, which is something I never attempted back in
    the day. Then again, back then we didn't have half the the tools they
    have today: electrostatic grass planters, or transparent resins for
    water, or wire-cutters to slice through foam blocks, or 3D-printed
    boulders). I'm often tempted to get back into the hobby, but then
    there's a sale on GOG and there goes my hobby money ;-)

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  • From H1MEM@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Sep 29 18:46:06 2023
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Looking at this game, I get the same feeling other people probably
    get when I tell them I enjoy titles like "Truck Simulator" or "Lawn
    Mower Simulator": what's the point?

    Quoting Inside Job (the series)... "Everybody knows Akira! Anime is
    mainstream now!". Euro Truck Simulator 2 and American Truck Simulator
    have managed to transcend the "boring simulator ghetto" to the point
    that nobody will ever give you a weird look, but will ask for
    interesting stories, or to which degree of faithfulness a location has
    been recreated in game.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Sep 29 19:43:25 2023
    On 29/09/2023 16:33, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 10:06:19 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 28/09/2023 16:01, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    * Model Builder
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/model-builder-f9b456
    Looking at this game, I get the same feeling other
    people probably get when I tell them I enjoy titles like
    "Truck Simulator" or "Lawn Mower Simulator": what's the
    point? I'd much rather build a model for real than do
    it virtually. Then again, maybe I do understand: modeling
    can be expensive and messy, and this game lets you create
    perfect models without all the inconveniences. And it
    actually looks pretty competent at how it presents the
    hobby. But I think I still would rather do it for real.

    Games like Truck Simulator aren't my cup of tea but I do understand
    (kinda anyway) why people like them. Model Builder, I suppose I can see
    why it might be attractive to some but for me it misses key aspects of
    why people do modelling. So a big one is the physicality of it. Then
    modelling has rather moved on from the 80's and weathering has become a
    core aspect of it for many people. Next up, making the model your own
    whether it's as simple as getting a different set of decals, adding
    extra details or just using after market parts. The list could go on.

    The price part, no it's not cheap but it's not that expensive just to
    get a basic set-up and then add to it over time but it is correct to
    that it really isn't the buying kits with pocket money that it used to
    be. Now can you spend some serious money, absolutely you can (and I know
    people who do) but you don't have to. Space and convenience, of yes but
    I also know people who's modelling space is no more than a small desk.

    So overall I'm can't really say it represents anything but a small part
    of the hobby. Of course if it gets people into the actual hobby then I'm
    all for it because people are dying at an alarming rate!

    That's a shame. I have a lot of fond memories of building models in my younger days. But I've given it up, mostly due to a lack of space: not
    just for the assembly, or tools, but to display the finished product.
    For some reasons, all my shelves and closests are full. ;-)

    I still enjoy watching modellers on YouTube do their thing (especially
    the ones who do dioramas, which is something I never attempted back in
    the day. Then again, back then we didn't have half the the tools they
    have today: electrostatic grass planters, or transparent resins for
    water, or wire-cutters to slice through foam blocks, or 3D-printed
    boulders). I'm often tempted to get back into the hobby, but then
    there's a sale on GOG and there goes my hobby money ;-)


    It's not that you can't build models like you did 'back in the day' but
    if you're going to the internet to look for advice of how to do things
    it can be very problematic if not depressing. I have a copy of the book
    The Encyclopedia of Military Modelling published in 1981. Even in my
    teenage years the models in there were something I could certainly aim
    towards. With most of the professional modellers now, no hope of that.

    The good thing is if you join a group of other 'regular' modellers then
    you're all in it together and you're much more grounded in what you're
    happy with.

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