• Hardware Follies

    From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 7 16:52:16 2023
    Not that anyone really cares, but here's an update on my "newest" PC
    hardware acquisitions...


    On the Scavenging Front
    -----------------------
    - I nearly lucked out on a LD 55" 4K UHDTV. It worked for several days
    before the backlight died and strange artifacts started appearing on
    screen. Probably repairable, if I had the space to open it up, but
    also probably not worth the cost and effort. 55" is a bit too large
    for my needs anyway, although I wouldn't have minded FINALLY owning a
    4K screen.

    Well, easy come, easy go. Hopefully The Gods Of The Bin will bless me
    with another TV eventually.

    - I also nabbed a Logitech gaming keyboard from a friend. It's a
    mechanical keyboard with RGP keylights; I mostly wanted it for the
    former more than the latter. I haven't owned a mechanical keyboard in
    a dog's age, and wanted to see if it really made as much a difference
    as proponents claim. And you know what; it does... but not in a
    positive way. It's probably because I've been ruined by years of using rubber-dome boards, but I found the mechanical just too heavy (both in construction and in force needed to depress the keys) for long-term
    use. It's also pretty garish and bulky. I'll keep the keyboard, of
    course, but it's not gonna be my main driver.



    On the Beige Windows95 PC
    -------------------------
    I've decided to swap hardware again. The hardware configuration was
    feeling just too modern for a Win3/Win95 machine. Unfortunately, I
    couldn't do anything about the CPU but the rest of the PC has since
    been downgraded: I've replaced the 3DFX Voodoo3 video card with a
    Matrox Mystique and Voodoo 1 card; I pulled the SoundBlaster AWE 64,
    and switched the 120GB for an 80GB hard-drive. I kept the Gravis
    Ultrasound, though. After all, the GUS is really the whole point of
    the build.

    The only problem is the 3DFX card (a Canopus Pure 3D 6MB) requires a
    very specific VGA pass-through cable, so - until I acquire that - I
    need to switch the VGA input every time I jump from 2D to 3D mode. ;-)


    On the Windows98 PC
    -------------------
    After this build's ABit KT7A-RAID motherboard died, I was planning to
    replace it with an ASUS motherboard. But there were two problems with
    that plan. First (and most minor), I was going to have to buy a new power-supply to get the thing running, and that felt like an
    unnecessary expense. Secondly, the end-result - a machine with a 3000+
    Athlon XP, 512MB DDR2 RAM, and a GeForce 4 video card - seemed far too
    powerful for my intended Windows98 build. It was all XP-era hardware.
    I wanted something more contemporary to the OS' release.

    But by freeing up the Voodoo3, I decided I'd just revert to the
    original Pentium II-400 MHz build I had started with four months ago.
    I was actually quite happy with that setup, and the only reason I had
    changed it was because I needed a video-card for the Windows95
    machine. But now that I've settled on the Matrox/3DFX combo, the
    Voodoo3 can go back to where it belongs.

    Of course, now I'll have TWO PCs running the same CPU, but you know
    what? I'm fine with that. Optimally, the DOS/Windows95 PC would be
    running something a bit slower, but it really doesn't matter in the
    long run.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Aug 7 22:28:54 2023
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    On the Scavenging Front
    -----------------------
    - I nearly lucked out on a LD 55" 4K UHDTV. It worked for several days
    before the backlight died and strange artifacts started appearing on
    screen. Probably repairable, if I had the space to open it up, but
    also probably not worth the cost and effort. 55" is a bit too large
    for my needs anyway, although I wouldn't have minded FINALLY owning a
    4K screen.

    Wow. I still don't have a 4K display. I finally went to HD 1080 in the late 2014. Yeah, I am slow and don't care. :)
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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Aug 7 19:03:12 2023
    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 3:29:06 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    On the Scavenging Front
    -----------------------
    - I nearly lucked out on a LD 55" 4K UHDTV. It worked for several days before the backlight died and strange artifacts started appearing on screen. Probably repairable, if I had the space to open it up, but
    also probably not worth the cost and effort. 55" is a bit too large
    for my needs anyway, although I wouldn't have minded FINALLY owning a
    4K screen.
    Wow. I still don't have a 4K display. I finally went to HD 1080 in the late 2014. Yeah, I am slow and don't care. :)

    Guess I'm lagging a lot then as I went to 1080p in 2019 on a 27" and still think the monitor is too big, but at least 1080p works with the size.

    Next one's probably going to be a 24", but who knows how long that'll be.

    - Justisaur

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to justisaur@gmail.com on Tue Aug 8 08:14:07 2023
    On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 19:03:12 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
    <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 3:29:06?PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    On the Scavenging Front
    -----------------------
    - I nearly lucked out on a LD 55" 4K UHDTV. It worked for several days
    before the backlight died and strange artifacts started appearing on
    screen. Probably repairable, if I had the space to open it up, but
    also probably not worth the cost and effort. 55" is a bit too large
    for my needs anyway, although I wouldn't have minded FINALLY owning a
    4K screen.
    Wow. I still don't have a 4K display. I finally went to HD 1080 in the late >> 2014. Yeah, I am slow and don't care. :)

    Guess I'm lagging a lot then as I went to 1080p in 2019 on a 27" and still >think the monitor is too big, but at least 1080p works with the size.

    Next one's probably going to be a 24", but who knows how long that'll be.

    I don't have a 4K screen either.
    Like I said, the TV died so it went to ewaste.

    I like having a big screen but, honestly, the lack of 4K doesn't
    bother me. If I squint, I can see the difference between 2K and 4K...
    but the benefits are almost invisible when things are moving quickly
    (like, say, while watching a movie or playing a video game). Aging
    eyes have some benefit, I guess.

    Plus, being limited to HD does wonders for the framerate. ;-)

    I'm not really in a rush to upgrade to 4K... but, you know, if one
    happens to fall in my lap neither am I going to refuse it.

    But it hasn't happened yet. At least, not with a WORKING 4K screen.
    ;-P

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Aug 9 04:28:44 2023
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 19:03:12 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
    <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 3:29:06?PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    On the Scavenging Front
    -----------------------
    - I nearly lucked out on a LD 55" 4K UHDTV. It worked for several days >> > before the backlight died and strange artifacts started appearing on
    screen. Probably repairable, if I had the space to open it up, but
    also probably not worth the cost and effort. 55" is a bit too large
    for my needs anyway, although I wouldn't have minded FINALLY owning a
    4K screen.
    Wow. I still don't have a 4K display. I finally went to HD 1080 in the late
    2014. Yeah, I am slow and don't care. :)

    Guess I'm lagging a lot then as I went to 1080p in 2019 on a 27" and still >think the monitor is too big, but at least 1080p works with the size.

    Next one's probably going to be a 24", but who knows how long that'll be.

    I don't have a 4K screen either.
    Like I said, the TV died so it went to ewaste.

    I like having a big screen but, honestly, the lack of 4K doesn't
    bother me. If I squint, I can see the difference between 2K and 4K...
    but the benefits are almost invisible when things are moving quickly
    (like, say, while watching a movie or playing a video game). Aging
    eyes have some benefit, I guess.

    Plus, being limited to HD does wonders for the framerate. ;-)

    I'm not really in a rush to upgrade to 4K... but, you know, if one
    happens to fall in my lap neither am I going to refuse it.

    But it hasn't happened yet. At least, not with a WORKING 4K screen.
    ;-P

    Ditto. I don't care for the newest stuff anymore. I just want stuff to work, stable, cheap, etc.
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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Thu Aug 10 09:41:01 2023
    On 08/08/2023 03:03, Justisaur wrote:
    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 3:29:06 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    On the Scavenging Front
    -----------------------
    - I nearly lucked out on a LD 55" 4K UHDTV. It worked for several days
    before the backlight died and strange artifacts started appearing on
    screen. Probably repairable, if I had the space to open it up, but
    also probably not worth the cost and effort. 55" is a bit too large
    for my needs anyway, although I wouldn't have minded FINALLY owning a
    4K screen.
    Wow. I still don't have a 4K display. I finally went to HD 1080 in the late >> 2014. Yeah, I am slow and don't care. :)

    Guess I'm lagging a lot then as I went to 1080p in 2019 on a 27" and still think the monitor is too big, but at least 1080p works with the size.

    Next one's probably going to be a 24", but who knows how long that'll be.


    I got a new monitor about six years ago and I did think about going for
    27" but because of the cost went for 24" instead especially as I think
    once the novelty had worn off it would make no practical difference.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Aug 10 08:35:01 2023
    On 8/10/2023 1:41 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 08/08/2023 03:03, Justisaur wrote:
    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 3:29:06 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    On the Scavenging Front
    -----------------------
    - I nearly lucked out on a LD 55" 4K UHDTV. It worked for several days >>>> before the backlight died and strange artifacts started appearing on
    screen. Probably repairable, if I had the space to open it up, but
    also probably not worth the cost and effort. 55" is a bit too large
    for my needs anyway, although I wouldn't have minded FINALLY owning a
    4K screen.
    Wow. I still don't have a 4K display. I finally went to HD 1080 in
    the late
    2014. Yeah, I am slow and don't care. :)

    Guess I'm lagging a lot then as I went to 1080p in 2019 on a 27" and
    still
    think the monitor is too big, but at least 1080p works with the size.

    Next one's probably going to be a 24", but who knows how long that'll be.


    I got a new monitor about six years ago and I did think about going for
    27" but because of the cost went for 24" instead especially as I think
    once the novelty had worn off it would make no practical difference.

    I use a pair of 27" monitors. I frequently will have several different programs running on my personal computer that I want to be able to
    monitor. I also have a couple of A/B switches so I can use them for my
    work supplied laptop where I will have a minimum of five different
    windows open at a time. I need the extra screen real estate.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Thu Aug 10 13:19:50 2023
    On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:35:01 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 8/10/2023 1:41 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 08/08/2023 03:03, Justisaur wrote:
    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 3:29:06?PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    On the Scavenging Front
    -----------------------
    - I nearly lucked out on a LD 55" 4K UHDTV. It worked for several days >>>>> before the backlight died and strange artifacts started appearing on >>>>> screen. Probably repairable, if I had the space to open it up, but
    also probably not worth the cost and effort. 55" is a bit too large
    for my needs anyway, although I wouldn't have minded FINALLY owning a >>>>> 4K screen.
    Wow. I still don't have a 4K display. I finally went to HD 1080 in
    the late
    2014. Yeah, I am slow and don't care. :)

    Guess I'm lagging a lot then as I went to 1080p in 2019 on a 27" and
    still
    think the monitor is too big, but at least 1080p works with the size.

    Next one's probably going to be a 24", but who knows how long that'll be.

    I got a new monitor about six years ago and I did think about going for
    27" but because of the cost went for 24" instead especially as I think
    once the novelty had worn off it would make no practical difference.

    I use a pair of 27" monitors. I frequently will have several different >programs running on my personal computer that I want to be able to
    monitor. I also have a couple of A/B switches so I can use them for my
    work supplied laptop where I will have a minimum of five different
    windows open at a time. I need the extra screen real estate.

    Preach on!

    Once you start using multiple monitors, it's REALLY hard to go back to
    a single monitor. It seems unnecessary at first - why waste all that
    desk space / money / electricity when you can just minimize the other
    windows*? - but once you get that second monitor, you won't want to
    give it up.

    I've gotten so many people hooked on dual monitor set-ups that
    flat-screen manufacturers ought to be sending me kickbacks...

    But be careful; once you have two, it becomes easier to justify
    three... or four. And the good thing is, they don't HAVE to be
    identical monitors. Sure, that's optimal but you can pick up a new
    monitor and keep the old one. Or two. Or three.

    But when you consider buying an extra video-card just so you can
    support more than four monitors, then it may be time to seek
    professional help. ;-)




    Not that I'm speaking from experience, of course.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Aug 10 12:02:42 2023
    On 8/10/2023 10:19 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:35:01 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 8/10/2023 1:41 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 08/08/2023 03:03, Justisaur wrote:
    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 3:29:06?PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    On the Scavenging Front
    -----------------------
    - I nearly lucked out on a LD 55" 4K UHDTV. It worked for several days >>>>>> before the backlight died and strange artifacts started appearing on >>>>>> screen. Probably repairable, if I had the space to open it up, but >>>>>> also probably not worth the cost and effort. 55" is a bit too large >>>>>> for my needs anyway, although I wouldn't have minded FINALLY owning a >>>>>> 4K screen.
    Wow. I still don't have a 4K display. I finally went to HD 1080 in
    the late
    2014. Yeah, I am slow and don't care. :)

    Guess I'm lagging a lot then as I went to 1080p in 2019 on a 27" and
    still
    think the monitor is too big, but at least 1080p works with the size.

    Next one's probably going to be a 24", but who knows how long that'll be.

    I got a new monitor about six years ago and I did think about going for
    27" but because of the cost went for 24" instead especially as I think
    once the novelty had worn off it would make no practical difference.

    I use a pair of 27" monitors. I frequently will have several different
    programs running on my personal computer that I want to be able to
    monitor. I also have a couple of A/B switches so I can use them for my
    work supplied laptop where I will have a minimum of five different
    windows open at a time. I need the extra screen real estate.

    Preach on!

    Once you start using multiple monitors, it's REALLY hard to go back to
    a single monitor. It seems unnecessary at first - why waste all that
    desk space / money / electricity when you can just minimize the other windows*? - but once you get that second monitor, you won't want to
    give it up.

    I've gotten so many people hooked on dual monitor set-ups that
    flat-screen manufacturers ought to be sending me kickbacks...

    But be careful; once you have two, it becomes easier to justify
    three... or four. And the good thing is, they don't HAVE to be
    identical monitors. Sure, that's optimal but you can pick up a new
    monitor and keep the old one. Or two. Or three.

    But when you consider buying an extra video-card just so you can
    support more than four monitors, then it may be time to seek
    professional help. ;-)

    I have a big desk but not THAT big.


    Not that I'm speaking from experience, of course.

    No, of course not. ;)

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Aug 11 07:21:49 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 10:20:03 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:35:01 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 8/10/2023 1:41 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 08/08/2023 03:03, Justisaur wrote:
    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 3:29:06?PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    On the Scavenging Front
    -----------------------
    - I nearly lucked out on a LD 55" 4K UHDTV. It worked for several days >>>>> before the backlight died and strange artifacts started appearing on >>>>> screen. Probably repairable, if I had the space to open it up, but >>>>> also probably not worth the cost and effort. 55" is a bit too large >>>>> for my needs anyway, although I wouldn't have minded FINALLY owning a >>>>> 4K screen.
    Wow. I still don't have a 4K display. I finally went to HD 1080 in
    the late
    2014. Yeah, I am slow and don't care. :)

    Guess I'm lagging a lot then as I went to 1080p in 2019 on a 27" and
    still
    think the monitor is too big, but at least 1080p works with the size.

    Next one's probably going to be a 24", but who knows how long that'll be.

    I got a new monitor about six years ago and I did think about going for >> 27" but because of the cost went for 24" instead especially as I think
    once the novelty had worn off it would make no practical difference.

    I use a pair of 27" monitors. I frequently will have several different >programs running on my personal computer that I want to be able to >monitor. I also have a couple of A/B switches so I can use them for my >work supplied laptop where I will have a minimum of five different
    windows open at a time. I need the extra screen real estate.
    Preach on!

    Once you start using multiple monitors, it's REALLY hard to go back to
    a single monitor. It seems unnecessary at first - why waste all that
    desk space / money / electricity when you can just minimize the other windows*? - but once you get that second monitor, you won't want to
    give it up.

    I used to have dual monitors, but with the 27" it's just too big and I'd have to have it off center (more than it already is.) I might be able to fit one
    of the 19" in portrait mode off to the side, but space is already at a
    premium and I too have a couple laptops I have to do work on. An A/B
    switch would interfere with having all 3 open.

    Would that I could afford a bigger house with more room for a bigger
    desk.

    - Justisaur

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sun Aug 13 11:26:59 2023
    On 10/08/2023 16:35, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 8/10/2023 1:41 AM, JAB wrote:
    I got a new monitor about six years ago and I did think about going
    for 27" but because of the cost went for 24" instead especially as I
    think once the novelty had worn off it would make no practical
    difference.

    I use a pair of 27" monitors.  I frequently will have several different programs running on my personal computer that I want to be able to
    monitor.  I also have a couple of A/B switches so I can use them for my
    work supplied laptop where I will have a minimum of five different
    windows open at a time.  I need the extra screen real estate.


    My PC is purely for bog standard home use so although there's the odd
    time it be nice to have two screens it's fairly rare and I really
    couldn't justify the cost for what would basically be a convenience. I
    do occasional use the iPad if I'm stuck on a game and I want to see how
    I progress but that's about it really.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 20 11:21:50 2023
    These days it seems like I'm spending more time tinkering with old
    hardware than I am using my new computers ;-)


    New acquisitions
    --------------------------
    Yet another keyboard unnecessarily added to the pile. It's a
    "Thermaltake Challenge Prime" gaming keyboard; a cheap membrane board,
    it has the usual RGB, oh-so-cool design aesthetic and lots of extra programmable keys I know I'd never use! But this 'board might not be
    with me long; I'm not sure it's in good working condition. Sometimes I
    press a key and get an unexpected results; maybe there's a dodgy chip
    or I need to check the USB cable. Or it could be the programmable
    stuff; I have to install the software first and see if I can reset it
    to factory condition before I give up on it. Either way, a fun little
    project once I eventually get around to it.


    The Retro PCs
    --------------------------
    My "Windows98 PC" (aka, "Project98") is finally all back together.
    After the previous motherboard started acting up, I had to replace it
    (and the hard-drive, while I was at it). I've been fiddling around
    with it on-and-off for the past few weeks. It would have gone faster
    except copying 120GB of data (mostly games!) takes a while. But it is
    now the 'dream machine' I originally envisioned; in fact, it's now
    actually /better/ than it was back when I first built it in March. I
    finally hammered out all the hardware and driver issues that had been
    initially plaguing me.

    Having learned my lesson, I put all the necessary drivers and
    applications onto a CD-ROM so, should I ever have to re-re-install
    everything, the procedure will go a bit more smoothly. No more
    bootstrapping from floppy-disks! I even created a special wallpaper
    for the thing! This will now be my go-to PC for whenever I get a
    hankering to play late-90s era PC games.



    I'm less sanguine about my "BeigePC" running Windows95. It's okay, but
    it doesn't make me quite as happy as the Windows98 computer. It really
    only exists because a) it's beige, and b) it supports my Gravis
    Ultrasound card. But the limitations of DOS/Win95 are grating, and
    there are a number of hardware issues I still need to work out. Plus,
    while the beigeness of the PC is the whole point, visually it isn't
    very exciting. Unlike the Win98 PC, I expect I'll only resort to using
    the BeigePC when I need to run an app or game that is so finicky that
    even Windows98 is too modern for it (or whenever I get the hankering
    for genuine GUS MIDI tunes ;-)



    Also, I finally gave the Abit KT7a-RAID motherboard (the one that
    failed me in the Win98 PC prior to its rebuild) a look-over. It's hard
    to see, but I think there may be some cracked solder around the ATA
    connectors. Since I was suspecting the IO chip, this is good news;
    re-flowing the solder (or just replacing the connector entirely) is a
    lot easier than trying to pinpoint - much less source a replacement
    for - a faulty chip. But the work is a bit too finicky for me; I'm a
    poor solderer to start with, and those pins are /really/ tiny. A
    colleague has offered to take a look at the board though, so
    eventually the Athlon-900 may roar back to life.


    Of course, having finished these two projects (minus a few tweaks) I'm
    somewhat at a loss as what to do next. Perhaps I'll revitalize my
    previous PC (the one I was using as my main until just a few months
    ago). It probably could use a good clean-out (its thermal paste is
    probably a decade old!) and OS refresh...

    Alternately, the Bin-gods may present me with some other
    distraction...

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 27 17:43:32 2023
    A Reverse Acquisition
    ---------------------

    One of the problems of salvaging old PCs is that you end up with more
    computers than you have space to store them. Well, today I cleverly
    discovered a solution to the problem: break the PC so it doesn't work
    anymore and you have to send it to e-waste!

    So say goodbye to my Intel Core2 Duo 3GHz, which was my 'main' PC
    circa 2006. This PC accompanied me through my adventures in Elder
    Scrolls Oblivion, Gears of War, Rainbow Six: Vegas, and many more
    games. For years after, it served as my 'emergency' back-up PC,
    dutifully standing by should its replacement go down. But as year
    after year passed (and I kept getting replacements to its
    replacements) it mostly just collected dust. As the stack of new PCs
    kept growing, I grudgingly started to consider that maybe - just
    maybe! - I might have to part with my old friend.

    And while I hadn't yet made that pivotal decision, such thinking did
    lead me to give the PC a thorough cleaning. Like I said, even unused
    it had gathered quite a lot of dust. So ever-so carefully, I
    dismantled the PC, piece by PC, delicately cleaning every component.

    Oh! Had I just been happy with the dust! For on cleaning the PC, I
    made a momentous - if disastrous - discovery: LGA sockets are very
    much like Velcro, and would very much like to permanently mate with
    micro-fiber cloth. Not that I was attempting to make such a discovery,
    but a careless toss of the offending rag landed it directly onto the
    CPU socket and - once joined - it proved near impossible to separate
    the two.

    TL;DR: The motherboard is ruined.

    In my defense, in my long career of breaking things, this is only the
    SECOND motherboard I've destroyed.

    Anyway, with great sadness in my heart, I weepingly dismantled the PC,
    keeping some components, disposing of others. Long-story short, I
    didn't really save all that much space. ;-)

    I do wish, though, that all this had all happened six or more months
    ago, when I was actively searching for a chassis and power-supply to
    finish my Win98 build. It would have simplified things greatly.

    Oh well. Now I have an empty spot in the closet. Say, I wonder if the
    Bin Gods have anything for me...

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  • From Werner P.@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 11:08:35 2023
    Am 27.08.23 um 23:43 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
    One of the problems of salvaging old PCs is that you end up with more computers than you have space to store them. Well, today I cleverly discovered a solution to the problem: break the PC so it doesn't work
    anymore and you have to send it to e-waste!
    exactly and thats for instance the reason why I have settled on a MistER
    fpga for my retro computing needs.
    I still have way too much hardware accumulated over the years, which I
    have a hard time to get rid of, but I guess I have to do a collective
    "get rid off everything unused" soon!
    My wife will thank me for it!

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to Werner P. on Mon Aug 28 08:25:02 2023
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 11:08:35 +0200, "Werner P." <werpu@gmx.at> wrote:

    Am 27.08.23 um 23:43 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
    One of the problems of salvaging old PCs is that you end up with more
    computers than you have space to store them. Well, today I cleverly
    discovered a solution to the problem: break the PC so it doesn't work
    anymore and you have to send it to e-waste!

    exactly and thats for instance the reason why I have settled on a MistER
    fpga for my retro computing needs.

    I still have way too much hardware accumulated over the years, which I
    have a hard time to get rid of, but I guess I have to do a collective
    "get rid off everything unused" soon!

    When it comes to old games, I /mostly/ rely on emulation. 99% of my
    DOS gaming is through DOSBox. I long ago ripped my PS1/2 CDs and are
    played via an emulator. The selection of Apple II games I still own
    are only revisited through an emulator.

    But when it comes to Win9x games, emulation isn't /quite/ there yet.
    It's good but there are still some games (I'm looking at you,
    Hyperblade!) that - either because of emulation or performance issues
    - play better on real hardware. DemoScene stuff has a lot harder time
    on emulators too.

    Plus, there's something fun about the old stuff. Just the sound of it
    is appealing: the roar of the fans, the ticking of the HDDs, the
    wonk-wonk of the floppy-seek at boot-up. My "BeigeBox" DOS-Win95 PC
    exists solely because I wanted to hear a real-not-emulated Gravis
    Ultrasound again.

    But I probably could survive without that old Dell Windows10 desktop
    or that moldering Gateway PC. If I really had to.

    I don't gotta, though. Not yet, anyway.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Werner P. on Tue Aug 29 09:12:47 2023
    On 28/08/2023 10:08, Werner P. wrote:
    Am 27.08.23 um 23:43 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
    One of the problems of salvaging old PCs is that you end up with more
    computers than you have space to store them. Well, today I cleverly
    discovered a solution to the problem: break the PC so it doesn't work
    anymore and you have to send it to e-waste!
    exactly and thats for instance the reason why I have settled on a MistER
    fpga for my retro computing needs.
    I still have way too much hardware accumulated over the years, which I
    have a hard time to get rid of, but I guess I have to do a collective
    "get rid off everything unused" soon!
    My wife will thank me for it!


    Not heard of MistER FPGA before but the price is a bit steep for me so I
    think I'll stick to MAME etc. for my needs.

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  • From Werner P.@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 13:12:22 2023
    Am 29.08.23 um 10:12 schrieb JAB:
    On 28/08/2023 10:08, Werner P. wrote:
    Am 27.08.23 um 23:43 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
    One of the problems of salvaging old PCs is that you end up with more
    computers than you have space to store them. Well, today I cleverly
    discovered a solution to the problem: break the PC so it doesn't work
    anymore and you have to send it to e-waste!
    exactly and thats for instance the reason why I have settled on a
    MistER fpga for my retro computing needs.
    I still have way too much hardware accumulated over the years, which I
    have a hard time to get rid of, but I guess I have to do a collective
    "get rid off everything unused" soon!
    My wife will thank me for it!


    Not heard of MistER FPGA before but the price is a bit steep for me so I think I'll stick to MAME etc. for my needs.
    Yes it indeed is not cheap!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Werner P. on Tue Aug 29 19:52:06 2023
    On 29/08/2023 12:12, Werner P. wrote:
    Am 29.08.23 um 10:12 schrieb JAB:
    On 28/08/2023 10:08, Werner P. wrote:
    Am 27.08.23 um 23:43 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
    One of the problems of salvaging old PCs is that you end up with more
    computers than you have space to store them. Well, today I cleverly
    discovered a solution to the problem: break the PC so it doesn't work
    anymore and you have to send it to e-waste!
    exactly and thats for instance the reason why I have settled on a
    MistER fpga for my retro computing needs.
    I still have way too much hardware accumulated over the years, which
    I have a hard time to get rid of, but I guess I have to do a
    collective "get rid off everything unused" soon!
    My wife will thank me for it!


    Not heard of MistER FPGA before but the price is a bit steep for me so
    I think I'll stick to MAME etc. for my needs.
    Yes it indeed is not cheap!


    It has meant I've fired up Fuse, a Speccy emulator, and played Adventure
    A: Planet of Doom. That was one of the first games I ever played.

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