* Homeworld Remastered Collection https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/homeworld-remastered-collection
The classic sci-fi strategy franchise reborn! Well, almost; it doesn't include "Homeworld: Emergence" (nee "Cataclysm"), which I always
thought was the best of the series, but it's got the other two, and
they're pretty good too. The original was epic in scope and even today
the original holds up pretty well; remastered, it's a delight. The
sequel is in there too (it was never my favorite). But the collection
is worth grabbing - and playing - if you've never given the franchise
a try. Who doesn't like commanding giant spacecraft in awesome space
wars?
it is, in essence, a boomer-shooter that doesn't
insist on retro graphics.
On 27/07/2023 16:02, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
* Homeworld Remastered Collection
https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/homeworld-remastered-collection
The classic sci-fi strategy franchise reborn! Well, almost; it doesn't
include "Homeworld: Emergence" (nee "Cataclysm"), which I always
thought was the best of the series, but it's got the other two, and
they're pretty good too. The original was epic in scope and even today
the original holds up pretty well; remastered, it's a delight. The
sequel is in there too (it was never my favorite). But the collection
is worth grabbing - and playing - if you've never given the franchise
a try. Who doesn't like commanding giant spacecraft in awesome space
wars?
Ground Control I really liked as unlike most RTS'es it didn't have the
whole resource collection and build cycle meaning the game didn't turn
into a clickfest unlike say Total Annihilation. Homeworld I thought was
ok but it just didn't grab me in the same way that GC did. Possibly it
was the 3D element I found not to my liking.
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 11:02:09 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
it is, in essence, a boomer-shooter that doesn't
insist on retro graphics.
I prefer the term X-shooter, as I know no boomers that played DOOM or
even Wolf3d. I don't want my generation lumped in with them.
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 11:19:21 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 27/07/2023 16:02, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
* Homeworld Remastered Collection
https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/homeworld-remastered-collection
The classic sci-fi strategy franchise reborn! Well, almost; it doesn't
include "Homeworld: Emergence" (nee "Cataclysm"), which I always
thought was the best of the series, but it's got the other two, and
they're pretty good too. The original was epic in scope and even today
the original holds up pretty well; remastered, it's a delight. The
sequel is in there too (it was never my favorite). But the collection
is worth grabbing - and playing - if you've never given the franchise
a try. Who doesn't like commanding giant spacecraft in awesome space
wars?
Ground Control I really liked as unlike most RTS'es it didn't have the >whole resource collection and build cycle meaning the game didn't turn
into a clickfest unlike say Total Annihilation. Homeworld I thought was
ok but it just didn't grab me in the same way that GC did. Possibly it
was the 3D element I found not to my liking.
"Ground Control" was quite good, but unfortunately it slipped beneath
the radar at the time of its release. Its focus on the tactical
aspects of combat over the pseudo-strategic of contemporaneous RTS
games made it a breath of fresh air. Its sequel wasn't quite as
engaging but was still fun. The "World in Conflict" games were pretty
good too (essentially being a refined 'Ground Control' except set in
modern times) but I was getting pretty tired of RTS games by that
point, and only gave them a single play through. But I've replayed
"Ground Control" numerous times.
The developers - after being bought out by Ubisoft - went on to
develop a number of other games - including "Tom Clancy's The
Division" and "Far Cry 3" where you can still see - if you squint -
some of the DNA of their earlier games.
"Homeworld" succeeded less because of its gameplay, I think, than its production values. Its epic orchestral score, the beautiful
space-scapes, the massive warships, and the haunting narrative all
made for a very impactful experience. The gameplay itself was okay,
but - aside from the innovations of using 3D space and having a large immobile homebase to defend - not particularly exciting. A lot of the missions were a slog and - because the results of one mission passed
on to the next - a mistake you made five missions past could keep you
from succeeding in a later mission.
The multiplayer was fun. "Homeworld" was one of the last RTS games I
played online, IIRC. And "Homeworld: Cataclysm" had this awesome
first-person viewpoint for the space-fighters; you couldn't control
the ships, but it was fun to switch to that view and watch the pilots
do their thing; it was very Star Wars. ;-)
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 11:02:09 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
it is, in essence, a boomer-shooter that doesn't
insist on retro graphics.
I prefer the term X-shooter, as I know no boomers that played DOOM or
even Wolf3d. I don't want my generation lumped in with them.
I am a DOOMer. ;) I think my 1st FPS game was Catacomb 3D on my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC.
But, I've given up arguing against the term 'boomer-shooter'.
Inaccurate and ageist as it may be, that's the term the hobby has
picked and I don't see it changing any time soon.
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 15:23:06 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 11:02:09 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
it is, in essence, a boomer-shooter that doesn't
insist on retro graphics.
I prefer the term X-shooter, as I know no boomers that played DOOM or
even Wolf3d. I don't want my generation lumped in with them.
I am a DOOMer. ;) I think my 1st FPS game was Catacomb 3D on my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC.
They're all Wolf3D-clones to me ;-)
But, I've given up arguing against the term 'boomer-shooter'.
Inaccurate and ageist as it may be, that's the term the hobby has
picked and I don't see it changing any time soon.
Anyway, I tell myself that the name is actually descriptive of the
genres' fondness for explosive weaponry and penchant for using them as mobility tools (e.g., 'rocket jumping'). There are a a lot of BOOMs in
DooM, after all. ;-)
It's definitely not because I'm old and don't like being reminded of
the fact. Nope.
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 12:58:36 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
But, I've given up arguing against the term 'boomer-shooter'.
Inaccurate and ageist as it may be, that's the term the hobby has
picked and I don't see it changing any time soon.
I hate the term myself as it does not make any sense. My parents are
boomers and their generation does not play video games as far as I can
tell. I don't like my generation being lumped in with them.
But I also agree with you that arguing against it is pointless. That
is the term being used and that is not likely to change.
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 11:19:21 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 27/07/2023 16:02, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
* Homeworld Remastered Collection
https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/homeworld-remastered-collection
The classic sci-fi strategy franchise reborn! Well, almost; it doesn't
include "Homeworld: Emergence" (nee "Cataclysm"), which I always
thought was the best of the series, but it's got the other two, and
they're pretty good too. The original was epic in scope and even today
the original holds up pretty well; remastered, it's a delight. The
sequel is in there too (it was never my favorite). But the collection
is worth grabbing - and playing - if you've never given the franchise
a try. Who doesn't like commanding giant spacecraft in awesome space
wars?
Ground Control I really liked as unlike most RTS'es it didn't have the
whole resource collection and build cycle meaning the game didn't turn
into a clickfest unlike say Total Annihilation. Homeworld I thought was
ok but it just didn't grab me in the same way that GC did. Possibly it
was the 3D element I found not to my liking.
"Ground Control" was quite good, but unfortunately it slipped beneath
the radar at the time of its release. Its focus on the tactical
aspects of combat over the pseudo-strategic of contemporaneous RTS
games made it a breath of fresh air. Its sequel wasn't quite as
engaging but was still fun. The "World in Conflict" games were pretty
good too (essentially being a refined 'Ground Control' except set in
modern times) but I was getting pretty tired of RTS games by that
point, and only gave them a single play through. But I've replayed
"Ground Control" numerous times.
The developers - after being bought out by Ubisoft - went on to
develop a number of other games - including "Tom Clancy's The
Division" and "Far Cry 3" where you can still see - if you squint -
some of the DNA of their earlier games.
"Homeworld" succeeded less because of its gameplay, I think, than its production values. Its epic orchestral score, the beautiful
space-scapes, the massive warships, and the haunting narrative all
made for a very impactful experience. The gameplay itself was okay,
but - aside from the innovations of using 3D space and having a large immobile homebase to defend - not particularly exciting. A lot of the missions were a slog and - because the results of one mission passed
on to the next - a mistake you made five missions past could keep you
from succeeding in a later mission.
The multiplayer was fun. "Homeworld" was one of the last RTS games I
played online, IIRC. And "Homeworld: Cataclysm" had this awesome
first-person viewpoint for the space-fighters; you couldn't control
the ships, but it was fun to switch to that view and watch the pilots
do their thing; it was very Star Wars. ;-)
I hate the term myself as it does not make any sense. My parents are
boomers and their generation does not play video games as far as I can
tell. I don't like my generation being lumped in with them.
On 28/07/2023 18:48, Mike S. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 12:58:36 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
But, I've given up arguing against the term 'boomer-shooter'.
Inaccurate and ageist as it may be, that's the term the hobby has
picked and I don't see it changing any time soon.
I hate the term myself as it does not make any sense. My parents are boomers and their generation does not play video games as far as I can tell. I don't like my generation being lumped in with them.
But I also agree with you that arguing against it is pointless. That
is the term being used and that is not likely to change.
I don't hate but it does seem a somewhat silly term. The boomer
generation isn't associated with them and boomer itself is really used
as a pejorative which I don't believe is what they are saying about the games.
Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
I hate the term myself as it does not make any sense. My parents are >boomers and their generation does not play video games as far as I can >tell. I don't like my generation being lumped in with them.
It make sense to me because "boomer" is a term used by young people these days to dimissively describe anyone older than them, eg. "ok, boomer".
* Homeworld Remastered Collection
The classic sci-fi strategy franchise reborn! Well, almost; it doesn't include "Homeworld: Emergence" (nee "Cataclysm"), which I always
thought was the best of the series, but it's got the other two, and
they're pretty good too. The original was epic in scope and even today
the original holds up pretty well; remastered, it's a delight. The
sequel is in there too (it was never my favorite). But the collection
is worth grabbing - and playing - if you've never given the franchise
a try. Who doesn't like commanding giant spacecraft in awesome space
wars?
On 7/27/2023 11:02 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
* Homeworld Remastered Collection
The classic sci-fi strategy franchise reborn! Well, almost; it doesn't
include "Homeworld: Emergence" (nee "Cataclysm"), which I always
thought was the best of the series, but it's got the other two, and
they're pretty good too. The original was epic in scope and even today
the original holds up pretty well; remastered, it's a delight. The
sequel is in there too (it was never my favorite). But the collection
is worth grabbing - and playing - if you've never given the franchise
a try. Who doesn't like commanding giant spacecraft in awesome space
wars?
Played Homeworld back when it first came out and enjoyed it, but one
thing that I remember thinking at the time was that the game would have
been practically the same in 2D. Having to deal with X, Y and Z in a RTS
game didn't really add much in terms of strategy as I had anticipated,
but it was dope to sit back and watch some of those battles in glorious
3D. The story and music were surprisingly good as well.
Going to give the second one a whirl as soon as I have my pile of shame
I mean backlog under control :)
On 7/27/2023 11:02 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
* Homeworld Remastered Collection
The classic sci-fi strategy franchise reborn! Well, almost; it doesn't
include "Homeworld: Emergence" (nee "Cataclysm"), which I always
thought was the best of the series, but it's got the other two, and
they're pretty good too. The original was epic in scope and even today
the original holds up pretty well; remastered, it's a delight. The
sequel is in there too (it was never my favorite). But the collection
is worth grabbing - and playing - if you've never given the franchise
a try. Who doesn't like commanding giant spacecraft in awesome space
wars?
Played Homeworld back when it first came out and enjoyed it, but one
thing that I remember thinking at the time was that the game would have
been practically the same in 2D. Having to deal with X, Y and Z in a RTS
game didn't really add much in terms of strategy as I had anticipated,
but it was dope to sit back and watch some of those battles in glorious
3D. The story and music were surprisingly good as well.
Going to give the second one a whirl as soon as I have my pile of shame
I mean backlog under control :)
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