• THQ Annouces Physical Releases of Future Games

    From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 27 14:04:51 2023
    The publisher THQ Nordic released a press release the other day
    announcing that many of their future games will have a physical
    release.*

    You remember physical releases, right? You'd go to a store, pick out a
    box with a game in it, take it to the register, hand over your cash,
    and then lug your purchase back home where you'd stick the disk into
    your computer to install the game. But there were some advantages;
    you'd get a nice manual and the game - due to being delivered via disk
    - was free from any DRM.

    This isn't what THQ is offering. You're getting a box, sure, but it
    likely will just include a pamphlet with a Steam key (it may or may
    not have any media to install the game from, but given how few PCs
    have optical drives I wouldn't bet on a DVD). You won't be able to buy
    the things in your average game store, assuming any still exist in
    your area (they'll only be available in THQ's own shop in Vienna, and
    'selected retail partners'). And a manual? Well, maybe... but it's not guaranteed. These aren't typical 'physical releases' but special
    collector items for people with more money than sense.

    So the whole thing is a gimmick, designed to... well, not trick people
    (since THQ is being forthright about the details), but to tap into the nostalgia of physical releases and desire for games unencumbered by a publisher's apron-strings controlling when and how you can play the
    game.

    But - the previous four paragraphs notwithstanding - it's not THQ's announcement I wished to discuss. Honestly, the only novel thing about
    it is that they have planned physical releases for so many of their
    games; other publishers have pulled similar stunts, but not for their
    entire future catalog. And good on THQ Nordic; if that's something
    they can get people to pay for, why shouldn't they make that an
    option?

    But it all does lead to the question: are physical releases really
    something we want anymore?

    I mean, let's assume we're in a world where not only PC games still
    released on physical media, but that they weren't being sold at a
    premium, and that there was a shop nearby were you could easily pick
    the game up. Would you, today, go out and buy a game on physical
    media? As much as I love the format, I can't say that I, myself,
    would.

    Of course, there are certain factors that might encourage me. A really
    nice manual is... well, really nice. A lack of online DRM is similarly beneficial. But these features were increasingly rare even when PC
    games were still being sold on DVDs; too often, all you got was a
    pamphlet telling you how to install the game and the program still
    demanded to phone home before you could play it. Meanwhile, the
    physical release requires me to physically buy the game, use media to
    actually install the disk, and then store that media somewhere safe.

    Digital releases - for all their other disadvantages - are just easier
    to install, store and play. It's to the point that I am repurchasing a
    lot of games I already own on disk just so I don't have to worry about
    pulling out a CD-ROM.

    So, no, I can't see the appeal of physical media anymore. As much as I
    love a nice box, it's just not worth the other disadvantages...
    especially since that nice box is pretty much the ONLY thing the
    physical release will have going for it. Hell, these days I'd rather
    the manual be in PDF format too, so I can read it on my tablet.
    Meanwhile, these new physical media games will still be DRM
    encumbered, will cost more and will require more effort to acquire and
    install.

    No thanks.

    So, how about you? How appealing is a physical release of a game to
    you? Would you buy one? Would you pay extra for the option?







    * Don't believe me? Read it here! https://thqnordic.com/article/thq-nordics-boxed-pc-games-are-facing-strictly-limited-future

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Tue Jun 27 14:37:52 2023
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 14:04:51 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    So, how about you? How appealing is a physical release of a game to
    you? Would you buy one? Would you pay extra for the option?

    I love owning physical boxes and manuals.... for older titles. I
    purchased many games on Ebay over the years just to have the
    packaging.

    But modern games, I am not really interested. I am fine with Steam for
    them.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 27 18:55:01 2023
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 14:37:52 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 14:04:51 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson ><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    So, how about you? How appealing is a physical release of a game to
    you? Would you buy one? Would you pay extra for the option?

    I love owning physical boxes and manuals.... for older titles. I
    purchased many games on Ebay over the years just to have the
    packaging.

    But modern games, I am not really interested. I am fine with Steam for
    them.

    Playnite (a sort of uber-game launcher) cured my need for physical
    boxes. It lets me assign cover art to each game in my library. For a
    lot of my games, I've taken pre-existing scans, cleaned them up, and
    use that in lieu of the generic covers offered on Steam/GOG/etc. I'm
    not really into the physicallity of the boxes themselves - I don't
    really get much from holding them - as much as I am the box copy. I
    LOVE reading the marketing on the back of the box describing the game
    and the features the developers (or their ad-team, at least)
    considered important.

    Besides, boxes take up more room than I have available at the moment.
    I have a herd of PCs that are already stealing all my shelf-space; I
    just don't have room for /packaging/.

    ;-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Wed Jun 28 14:03:52 2023
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 18:55:01 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Playnite (a sort of uber-game launcher) cured my need for physical
    boxes. It lets me assign cover art to each game in my library. For a
    lot of my games, I've taken pre-existing scans, cleaned them up, and
    use that in lieu of the generic covers offered on Steam/GOG/etc. I'm
    not really into the physicallity of the boxes themselves - I don't
    really get much from holding them - as much as I am the box copy.

    I do get something out of actually having them physically. Digital
    versions of the boxes just won't do it for me. Again, I only feel this
    way for older titles, not newer ones so I am sure nostalgia is playing
    a heavy role here.

    Besides, boxes take up more room than I have available at the moment.
    I have a herd of PCs that are already stealing all my shelf-space; I
    just don't have room for /packaging/.

    I have no more room either. This is probably a major reason I have not purchased a physical release in some time.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Wed Jun 28 18:14:14 2023
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 18:55:01 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Playnite (a sort of uber-game launcher) cured my need for physical
    boxes. It lets me assign cover art to each game in my library. For a
    lot of my games, I've taken pre-existing scans, cleaned them up, and
    use that in lieu of the generic covers offered on Steam/GOG/etc. I'm
    not really into the physicallity of the boxes themselves - I don't
    really get much from holding them - as much as I am the box copy.

    I do get something out of actually having them physically. Digital
    versions of the boxes just won't do it for me. Again, I only feel this
    way for older titles, not newer ones so I am sure nostalgia is playing
    a heavy role here.

    For me, I don't want these dang online digital DRM craps. Also, the game shouldn't change so much after years like WoW. WoW's original CDs are
    useless now even to reinstall!


    Besides, boxes take up more room than I have available at the moment.
    I have a herd of PCs that are already stealing all my shelf-space; I
    just don't have room for /packaging/.

    I have no more room either. This is probably a major reason I have not purchased a physical release in some time.

    Same, but I kept a few.
    --
    "Who can proclaim the mighty acts of the Lord or fully declare his praise?" --Psalm 106:2. A flying social insect's stinger stung the right hand's pinky finger 2 swell. Also, fell down while running away. :(
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Ant on Wed Jun 28 13:01:21 2023
    On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 11:14:23 AM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    Mike S. <Mik...@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 18:55:01 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Playnite (a sort of uber-game launcher) cured my need for physical >boxes. It lets me assign cover art to each game in my library. For a
    lot of my games, I've taken pre-existing scans, cleaned them up, and
    use that in lieu of the generic covers offered on Steam/GOG/etc. I'm
    not really into the physicallity of the boxes themselves - I don't >really get much from holding them - as much as I am the box copy.

    I do get something out of actually having them physically. Digital versions of the boxes just won't do it for me. Again, I only feel this
    way for older titles, not newer ones so I am sure nostalgia is playing
    a heavy role here.

    For me, I don't want these dang online digital DRM craps. Also, the game shouldn't change so much after years like WoW. WoW's original CDs are useless now even to reinstall!

    Yeah, I'll pay a little extra for the GoG version if there is one and it doesn't
    have some form of DRM.

    Besides, boxes take up more room than I have available at the moment.
    I have a herd of PCs that are already stealing all my shelf-space; I >just don't have room for /packaging/.

    I have no more room either. This is probably a major reason I have not purchased a physical release in some time.
    Same, but I kept a few.

    I just had to dump most of my physical games when I moved, so no, I don't
    have room for some empty box either. I do have on drawer full of my favorites, and that did come in handy when my son wanted to play FO3
    as that's all I had it on.

    - Justisaur

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to justisaur@gmail.com on Wed Jun 28 21:08:38 2023
    On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:01:21 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
    <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 11:14:23?AM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    Mike S. <Mik...@nowhere.com> wrote:

    For me, I don't want these dang online digital DRM craps. Also, the game
    shouldn't change so much after years like WoW. WoW's original CDs are
    useless now even to reinstall!

    Yeah, I'll pay a little extra for the GoG version if there is one and it doesn't
    have some form of DRM.

    The problem is, modern 'physical releases' still come with online DRM.
    Some don't even come with media, and instead just a pamphlet with an erroneously named 'CD-Key' to plug into Steam (or wherever). You're
    literally paying extra just for cardboard.

    Were modern physical releases offering a DRM-free version, that would
    be a different story but that's not what you're getting.

    I wonder if my original Half-Life 2 CD-ROM would work...

    (my 'favorite' was some Ubisoft release - I forget for which game -
    which included a 'physical release' that had all sorts of gewgaws and tchotchkes, but not the actual game. To get a license to install the
    game on UPlay, you had to buy an entirely different version. Oh,
    Ubisoft. ;-)

    I have no more room either. This is probably a major reason I have not
    purchased a physical release in some time.

    Same, but I kept a few.

    I just had to dump most of my physical games when I moved, so no, I don't >have room for some empty box either. I do have on drawer full of my >favorites, and that did come in handy when my son wanted to play FO3
    as that's all I had it on.

    Heh, the "what game boxes are you still hanging on to" is a topic that
    comes up every year or so. The few I have remaining are folded flat
    and unceremoniously stashed in a drawer somewhere (a location so
    terrifyingly inexact that I had to rummage through all my closets to
    figure out exactly WHERE those boxes were hidden before I could finish
    this sentence. Turns out they are on the same shelves I've stashed all
    the manuals. Phew, mystery solved).

    (Also, I rediscovered my Duke Nukem 3D mousepad, which I have decided
    is a necessity for my Win9x computer. ;)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Jun 30 10:33:27 2023
    On 27/06/2023 19:04, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Of course, there are certain factors that might encourage me. A really
    nice manual is... well, really nice. A lack of online DRM is similarly beneficial. But these features were increasingly rare even when PC
    games were still being sold on DVDs; too often, all you got was a
    pamphlet telling you how to install the game and the program still
    demanded to phone home before you could play it. Meanwhile, the
    physical release requires me to physically buy the game, use media to actually install the disk, and then store that media somewhere safe.

    The lure of physical releases for me wasn't the install disk but instead
    the manual. Do games generally even come with, or need, a manual any more?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Jun 30 09:16:02 2023
    On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 10:33:27 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    The lure of physical releases for me wasn't the install disk but instead
    the manual. Do games generally even come with, or need, a manual any more?

    Mostly the same for me. I am slightly nostalgic for diskettes but I
    really want physical releases for everything else, especially the
    paper manual.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)