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  • The End of Computer Magazines in America

    From Metal Guru@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 26 13:38:08 2023
    This makes me nostalgically sad even though I haven't bought a print
    edition in a long while. I had Byte, Maximum PC, PC Gamer and 2600 subscriptions at one point and would randomly purchase Computer Shopper
    (all 20 pounds of it) as needed before the advent of the intertubes.

    I'll miss them but it's ultimately a good thing, though. What a long,
    strange trip it's been :)

    https://www.technologizer.com/2023/04/15/the-end-of-computer-magazines-in-america/

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 26 14:15:37 2023
    On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 13:38:08 -0400, Metal Guru <MetalGuru@IsItYou.com>
    wrote:

    This makes me nostalgically sad even though I haven't bought a print
    edition in a long while. I had Byte, Maximum PC, PC Gamer and 2600 >subscriptions at one point and would randomly purchase Computer Shopper
    (all 20 pounds of it) as needed before the advent of the intertubes.

    I'll miss them but it's ultimately a good thing, though. What a long,
    strange trip it's been :)

    https://www.technologizer.com/2023/04/15/the-end-of-computer-magazines-in-america/

    I miss them as well but I wouldn't subscribe to them now.

    My first magazine subscription was for Compute's Gazette. It was a
    magazine dedicated to the Commodore 64 and maybe other Commodore
    computers, I don't remember now.

    My last subscription, until I decided to let it lapse, was for PC
    Gamer.

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 26 13:37:46 2023
    This makes me nostalgically sad even though I haven't bought a print
    edition in a long while. I had Byte, Maximum PC, PC Gamer and 2600

    I have a few copies of Byte (stolen from some library, shhhh), and a very early issue of a lesser-known mag, the name escapes me though, I'll try to
    dig it out soon.

    rms

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Metal Guru on Wed Apr 26 19:47:42 2023
    Metal Guru <MetalGuru@isityou.com> wrote:
    This makes me nostalgically sad even though I haven't bought a print
    edition in a long while. I had Byte, Maximum PC, PC Gamer and 2600 subscriptions at one point and would randomly purchase Computer Shopper
    (all 20 pounds of it) as needed before the advent of the intertubes.

    I'll miss them but it's ultimately a good thing, though. What a long,
    strange trip it's been :)

    https://www.technologizer.com/2023/04/15/the-end-of-computer-magazines-in-america/

    I thought they ended already! I remember reading them in libraries, stores, etc. before Internet blew up.
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 26 19:42:44 2023
    On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 13:38:08 -0400, Metal Guru <MetalGuru@IsItYou.com>
    wrote:

    This makes me nostalgically sad even though I haven't bought a print
    edition in a long while. I had Byte, Maximum PC, PC Gamer and 2600 >subscriptions at one point and would randomly purchase Computer Shopper
    (all 20 pounds of it) as needed before the advent of the intertubes.

    I'll miss them but it's ultimately a good thing, though. What a long,
    strange trip it's been :)

    https://www.technologizer.com/2023/04/15/the-end-of-computer-magazines-in-america/


    I gave up on my last print magazine subscription just about a year
    ago. I still regret it to some degree. News read on dead trees felt
    somehow more substantial than that on an ephemeral website. What you
    read today would be there tomorrow, or in ten years; no worries about
    a 404 or the page being edited after the fact to remove an embarassing
    error.

    The format also forced a certain necessary conciseness that articles
    on websites sometimes lack*. You had to write an article that would
    fit on one or two pages. The fixed layout of the page also helped
    mitigate some of the worst excesses of the advertising; no flashing
    adverts in the middle of the page distracting you from what you just
    read; all the marketing was usually bumped to the side. It just felt
    more... polite.

    And thus, print had a feeling of authenticity and reliability that web
    articles lacked. Surely, my subconscious thought, any company willing
    to put the time and effort into printing this story onto paper and
    mailing it to me MUST have put the same amount of effort into
    researching the story in a fair and unbiased way. Intellectually, I
    knew this wasn't true; print journalists could be just as biased and
    inaccurate as most web-based stories... but still, they benefited from
    that assumption.

    Nonetheless, despite all these advantages, even I eventually gave up
    on hard-copy media. Partly because of its inconvenience, because it
    was always dated by the time I got it, or because of its price... but
    mostly because I was just reading so much on the web already, that I
    never got around to the print versions. Who has time for a magazine
    when I have fifty websites to scan?

    I'll miss the passing of computer magazines, but even I have to admit,
    their time has come and gone.



    * yes, I see the irony of my complaining about people not getting to
    the point on the internet

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Apr 27 00:07:13 2023
    I used to get free Entertainment Weekly magazines, but they stopped last
    year or so. :(


    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    I gave up on my last print magazine subscription just about a year
    ago. I still regret it to some degree. News read on dead trees felt
    somehow more substantial than that on an ephemeral website. What you
    read today would be there tomorrow, or in ten years; no worries about
    a 404 or the page being edited after the fact to remove an embarassing
    error.

    The format also forced a certain necessary conciseness that articles
    on websites sometimes lack*. You had to write an article that would
    fit on one or two pages. The fixed layout of the page also helped
    mitigate some of the worst excesses of the advertising; no flashing
    adverts in the middle of the page distracting you from what you just
    read; all the marketing was usually bumped to the side. It just felt
    more... polite.

    And thus, print had a feeling of authenticity and reliability that web articles lacked. Surely, my subconscious thought, any company willing
    to put the time and effort into printing this story onto paper and
    mailing it to me MUST have put the same amount of effort into
    researching the story in a fair and unbiased way. Intellectually, I
    knew this wasn't true; print journalists could be just as biased and inaccurate as most web-based stories... but still, they benefited from
    that assumption.

    Nonetheless, despite all these advantages, even I eventually gave up
    on hard-copy media. Partly because of its inconvenience, because it
    was always dated by the time I got it, or because of its price... but
    mostly because I was just reading so much on the web already, that I
    never got around to the print versions. Who has time for a magazine
    when I have fifty websites to scan?

    I'll miss the passing of computer magazines, but even I have to admit,
    their time has come and gone.


    * yes, I see the irony of my complaining about people not getting to
    the point on the internet



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  • From PW@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 26 21:36:32 2023
    On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 13:38:08 -0400, Metal Guru <MetalGuru@IsItYou.com>
    wrote:

    This makes me nostalgically sad even though I haven't bought a print
    edition in a long while. I had Byte, Maximum PC, PC Gamer and 2600 >subscriptions at one point and would randomly purchase Computer Shopper
    (all 20 pounds of it) as needed before the advent of the intertubes.

    I'll miss them but it's ultimately a good thing, though. What a long,
    strange trip it's been :)

    https://www.technologizer.com/2023/04/15/the-end-of-computer-magazines-in-america/

    *--

    Maximum PC is now going to digital only. Gone are my abilities to
    bookmark and highlight and tear out pages that I am interested in.

    I am going to cancel my subscription. There is nothing like holding a
    book, magazine, or newspaper in my hands.

    And the wear and tear on my eyes and neck reading something in a web
    browser.

    -pw

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Ant on Thu Apr 27 10:44:10 2023
    On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 00:07:13 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I used to get free Entertainment Weekly magazines, but they stopped last
    year or so. :(

    I used to get this one for free as well. I had airline mile reward
    points to piss away or something like that and I used them for this
    magazine for several years. I am not surprised that they are gone.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Fri Apr 28 00:20:15 2023
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 00:07:13 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I used to get free Entertainment Weekly magazines, but they stopped last >year or so. :(

    I used to get this one for free as well. I had airline mile reward
    points to piss away or something like that and I used them for this
    magazine for several years. I am not surprised that they are gone.

    United? :) EW does this weird weekly special collection digital
    subscription:
    https://www.magazines.com/entertainment-weekly-magazine.html. They said
    those with old subscription would get People magazines. I never got
    them! :(

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.co on Fri Apr 28 00:31:06 2023
    PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 13:38:08 -0400, Metal Guru <MetalGuru@IsItYou.com>
    wrote:

    This makes me nostalgically sad even though I haven't bought a print >edition in a long while. I had Byte, Maximum PC, PC Gamer and 2600 >subscriptions at one point and would randomly purchase Computer Shopper >(all 20 pounds of it) as needed before the advent of the intertubes.

    I'll miss them but it's ultimately a good thing, though. What a long, >strange trip it's been :)

    https://www.technologizer.com/2023/04/15/the-end-of-computer-magazines-in-america/

    *--

    Maximum PC is now going to digital only. Gone are my abilities to
    bookmark and highlight and tear out pages that I am interested in.

    And smell and touch!


    I am going to cancel my subscription. There is nothing like holding a
    book, magazine, or newspaper in my hands.

    And the wear and tear on my eyes and neck reading something in a web
    browser.

    Ditto.
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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Ant on Sat Apr 29 10:00:39 2023
    On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 00:20:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 00:07:13 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I used to get free Entertainment Weekly magazines, but they stopped last
    year or so. :(

    I used to get this one for free as well. I had airline mile reward
    points to piss away or something like that and I used them for this
    magazine for several years. I am not surprised that they are gone.

    United? :) EW does this weird weekly special collection digital
    subscription:
    https://www.magazines.com/entertainment-weekly-magazine.html. They said
    those with old subscription would get People magazines. I never got
    them! :(

    American Airlines.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Sun Apr 30 02:30:39 2023
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 00:20:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 00:07:13 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I used to get free Entertainment Weekly magazines, but they stopped last >> >year or so. :(

    I used to get this one for free as well. I had airline mile reward
    points to piss away or something like that and I used them for this
    magazine for several years. I am not surprised that they are gone.

    United? :) EW does this weird weekly special collection digital >subscription:
    https://www.magazines.com/entertainment-weekly-magazine.html. They said >those with old subscription would get People magazines. I never got
    them! :(

    American Airlines.

    Does AA still offer free magazine subscriptions? United's sucks now as shown in https://magazinerewards.mileageplus.com/. :(
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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Apr 30 07:05:19 2023
    On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 02:30:39 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Does AA still offer free magazine subscriptions? United's sucks now as shown in https://magazinerewards.mileageplus.com/. :(

    Sorry Ant, I do not fly anymore and have not for some time. I have no
    idea.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Sun Apr 30 20:16:18 2023
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 02:30:39 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Does AA still offer free magazine subscriptions? United's sucks now as shown in https://magazinerewards.mileageplus.com/. :(

    Sorry Ant, I do not fly anymore and have not for some time. I have no
    idea.

    Ah, I don't fly (haven't flown since summer of 1993) but others do. ;)
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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Metal Guru on Mon May 1 11:20:32 2023
    On 26/04/2023 18:38, Metal Guru wrote:
    This makes me nostalgically sad even though I haven't bought a print
    edition in a long while. I had Byte, Maximum PC, PC Gamer and 2600 subscriptions at one point and would randomly purchase Computer Shopper
    (all 20 pounds of it) as needed before the advent of the intertubes.

    I'll miss them but it's ultimately a good thing, though. What a long,
    strange trip it's been :)

    https://www.technologizer.com/2023/04/15/the-end-of-computer-magazines-in-america/


    I can't remember the last time I bought a print computer magazine,
    probably twenty or so years. Now I can't imagine why I want to
    considering the information that is only a click away and it's free.
    Like you though I will miss them especially the anticipation of going
    into the newsagent to see if the latest issue of Crash magazine was in
    this month.

    I do have a magazine subscription still active though, Private Eye which
    is a mixture of current affairs and satire often intermixed. It's a
    testimony to its appeal that its still popular yet hasn't gone to
    digital at all although they do give you the odd story as a little
    teaser now.

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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Tue May 2 17:28:59 2023
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    Sorry Ant, I do not fly anymore and have not for some time. I have no
    idea.

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Ah, I don't fly (haven't flown since summer of 1993) but others do. ;)

    I haven't flown in a plane since I was a baby. Does that mean I win?

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Tue May 2 21:48:07 2023
    Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    Sorry Ant, I do not fly anymore and have not for some time. I have no
    idea.

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Ah, I don't fly (haven't flown since summer of 1993) but others do. ;)

    I haven't flown in a plane since I was a baby. Does that mean I win?

    Wow. How come?
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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Wed May 3 08:41:51 2023
    On Tue, 2 May 2023 17:28:59 -0000 (UTC), rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
    (Ross Ridge) wrote:

    I haven't flown in a plane since I was a baby. Does that mean I win?

    If it wasn't for work awhile back, I would not have flown since I was
    a little kid. You aren't missing anything. It's boring.

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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Wed May 3 14:47:38 2023
    Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
    I haven't flown in a plane since I was a baby. Does that mean I win?

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Wow. How come?

    Don't like to travel. It never seemed worth spending all that money on.
    If I could magically teleport to Paris or Tokyo that would be cool,
    but not if it cost thousands of dollars and two days of my vacation
    would be wasted just going there and coming back.

    Also I haven't been able to get a passport until recently. I think now
    I have all the necessary ID I need to get the ID I need to get a passport
    but until I do I can't even visit the US.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Thu May 4 05:26:55 2023
    Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Wow. How come?

    Don't like to travel. It never seemed worth spending all that money on.
    If I could magically teleport to Paris or Tokyo that would be cool,
    but not if it cost thousands of dollars and two days of my vacation
    would be wasted just going there and coming back.

    Same here! I don't even like going out much! I was forced to travel
    with my folks when I was younger, but I disliked it. I do wished we had t(ele/rans)porters and portals. I hate long commutes. Also, I have health issues when I use the bath and rest rooms a lot. :(


    Also I haven't been able to get a passport until recently. I think now
    I have all the necessary ID I need to get the ID I need to get a passport
    but until I do I can't even visit the US.

    Where are you?
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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to Ant on Thu May 4 20:25:39 2023
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Same here! I don't even like going out much! I was forced to travel
    with my folks when I was younger, but I disliked it. I do wished we had >t(ele/rans)porters and portals. I hate long commutes. Also, I have
    health issues when I use the bath and rest rooms a lot. :(

    The worst for me as a kid was a two week trip through Western Canada.
    Basically 7 days driving west from Toronto, and 7 days drving back.

    Where are you?

    I live in Canada. I've only been to the US once as an adult, back in
    1994 for a conference in Boston, but I didn't even need to show ID,
    let alone have a passport.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Fri May 5 06:02:07 2023
    Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Same here! I don't even like going out much! I was forced to travel
    with my folks when I was younger, but I disliked it. I do wished we had >t(ele/rans)porters and portals. I hate long commutes. Also, I have
    health issues when I use the bath and rest rooms a lot. :(

    The worst for me as a kid was a two week trip through Western Canada. Basically 7 days driving west from Toronto, and 7 days drving back.

    Ugh. Back then, we didn't have Internet! I did have Frogger mini-arcade
    game, but that game got repetitive, annoying, and boring. :P


    Where are you?

    I live in Canada. I've only been to the US once as an adult, back in
    1994 for a conference in Boston, but I didn't even need to show ID,
    let alone have a passport.

    I went to Expo 86 in Vancouver back then. ;)
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