Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1xPart of me says that's cool and part of me says that's just so sad!
On 17/01/2023 14:39, DMP wrote:
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
Part of me says that's cool and part of me says that's just so sad!
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 09:39:52 -0500, DMP <mungemaid@nospam.com> wrote:
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
(summary: animated gif showing a flat-screen TV mounted on wall, with extending side-panels on either side shapped to look like Nintendo
Switch that hide a variety of video game consoles and gamepads within)
This looks less like the work of a video-game addict and more like a
gadget addict.
We video-game addicts don't need stuff like that. That's money better
spent on more video games. ;-)
On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 6:39:55 AM UTC-8, DMP wrote:
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
I think I'd have a hard time using those giant switch controllers
Also they suck and are ugly, I wouldn't want to display those
next to my TV/monitor. The rest of the setup is kind of neat,
but if I were doing it proper I'd have everything hooked up
on some kind of switch if possible so I didn't have to plug/
unplug everything.
Besides PC Master Race. /i
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
This looks less like the work of a video-game addict and more like a
gadget addict.
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 09:39:52 -0500, DMP <mungemaid@nospam.com> wrote:
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
(summary: animated gif showing a flat-screen TV mounted on wall, with
extending side-panels on either side shapped to look like Nintendo
Switch that hide a variety of video game consoles and gamepads within)
This looks less like the work of a video-game addict and more like a
gadget addict.
We video-game addicts don't need stuff like that. That's money better
spent on more video games. ;-)
Well, hardwares. That part is expensive! ;)
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 04:08:39 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 09:39:52 -0500, DMP <mungemaid@nospam.com> wrote:
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
(summary: animated gif showing a flat-screen TV mounted on wall, with
extending side-panels on either side shapped to look like Nintendo
Switch that hide a variety of video game consoles and gamepads within)
This looks less like the work of a video-game addict and more like a
gadget addict.
We video-game addicts don't need stuff like that. That's money better
spent on more video games. ;-)
Well, hardwares. That part is expensive! ;)
Bah, a real addict plays on a potato PC if we have to. Just because
it's not a /good/ hit doesn't mean it isn't a hit. Gaming at three
frames per second is still gaming ;-)
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 10:47:45 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Bah, a real addict plays on a potato PC if we have to. Just because
it's not a /good/ hit doesn't mean it isn't a hit. Gaming at three
frames per second is still gaming ;-)
Oooh! Oooh! Turtle in Quake on a 486DX. Yes!
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 04:08:39 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 09:39:52 -0500, DMP <mungemaid@nospam.com> wrote:
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
(summary: animated gif showing a flat-screen TV mounted on wall, with
extending side-panels on either side shapped to look like Nintendo
Switch that hide a variety of video game consoles and gamepads within)
This looks less like the work of a video-game addict and more like a
gadget addict.
We video-game addicts don't need stuff like that. That's money better
spent on more video games. ;-)
Well, hardwares. That part is expensive! ;)
Bah, a real addict plays on a potato PC if we have to. Just because
it's not a /good/ hit doesn't mean it isn't a hit. Gaming at three
frames per second is still gaming ;-)
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 10:13:31 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 10:47:45 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Bah, a real addict plays on a potato PC if we have to. Just because
it's not a /good/ hit doesn't mean it isn't a hit. Gaming at three
frames per second is still gaming ;-)
Oooh! Oooh! Turtle in Quake on a 486DX. Yes!
Been there, done that. I remember running Quake on my 486/33. To say
it was slow would be an understatement. I think my /high/ was 5FPS. I
tried playing the game that way, but I don't recall that I got very
far (like, not further than the opening map where you select
difficulty levels)
Later I got a Pentium 100. My framerates went up to a whopping 10fps
average; amazing! And surprisingly playable.
But Quake didn't become /enjoyable/ until I added a 3DFX card (with a >whopping 6MB of video RAM). Silky smooth framerates at an unbelievable >640x480 resolution. Would technology ever get more impressive than
that? ;-)
All of which may explain why I have little tolerance for people
bitching about not being able to get 120fps in their games nowadays.
;-)
I have a 20-something gamer friend. To quote him, "All you need is 60
fps." Anything higher is only of use to a competitive shooter player or someone having a d__ measuring contest.
I have my card capped at 75 fps these days, and all I'm noticing is that
the card runs at a lower clock speed with less heat generation.
But if you have those 50ms twitch skills, you need those frames. That and about 14 120mm fans in your case.
On 19/01/2023 16:46, Zaghadka wrote:
I have a 20-something gamer friend. To quote him, "All you need is 60
fps." Anything higher is only of use to a competitive shooter player or
someone having a d__ measuring contest.
I have my card capped at 75 fps these days, and all I'm noticing is that
the card runs at a lower clock speed with less heat generation.
But if you have those 50ms twitch skills, you need those frames. That and
about 14 120mm fans in your case.
The whole framerate thing seems to quite divide people into to the you
must have 100FPS+ and it doesn't really matter. Personally it's only
when you get into to the 20's that I think I really start noticing
although part of that is I don't tend to play the type of games that
require a high frame rate.
The more important part is having a consistent framerate.
On 1/19/2023 7:47 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 04:08:39 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:Chess works just fine at 1 frame per second!
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 09:39:52 -0500, DMP <mungemaid@nospam.com> wrote:
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
(summary: animated gif showing a flat-screen TV mounted on wall, with
extending side-panels on either side shapped to look like Nintendo
Switch that hide a variety of video game consoles and gamepads within)
This looks less like the work of a video-game addict and more like a
gadget addict.
We video-game addicts don't need stuff like that. That's money better
spent on more video games. ;-)
Well, hardwares. That part is expensive! ;)
Bah, a real addict plays on a potato PC if we have to. Just because
it's not a /good/ hit doesn't mean it isn't a hit. Gaming at three
frames per second is still gaming ;-)
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 09:08:11 -0800, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 1/19/2023 7:47 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 04:08:39 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:Chess works just fine at 1 frame per second!
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 09:39:52 -0500, DMP <mungemaid@nospam.com> wrote: >>>
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
(summary: animated gif showing a flat-screen TV mounted on wall, with >>>> extending side-panels on either side shapped to look like Nintendo
Switch that hide a variety of video game consoles and gamepads within) >>>
This looks less like the work of a video-game addict and more like a >>>> gadget addict.
We video-game addicts don't need stuff like that. That's money better >>>> spent on more video games. ;-)
Well, hardwares. That part is expensive! ;)
Bah, a real addict plays on a potato PC if we have to. Just because
it's not a /good/ hit doesn't mean it isn't a hit. Gaming at three
frames per second is still gaming ;-)
What's the name of this newsgroup again? Lol
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:13:35 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB wrote:
On 19/01/2023 16:46, Zaghadka wrote:
I have a 20-something gamer friend. To quote him, "All you need is 60
fps." Anything higher is only of use to a competitive shooter player or
someone having a d__ measuring contest.
I have my card capped at 75 fps these days, and all I'm noticing is that >> the card runs at a lower clock speed with less heat generation.
But if you have those 50ms twitch skills, you need those frames. That and >> about 14 120mm fans in your case.
The whole framerate thing seems to quite divide people into to the you
must have 100FPS+ and it doesn't really matter. Personally it's only
when you get into to the 20's that I think I really start noticing
although part of that is I don't tend to play the type of games that >require a high frame rate.
The more important part is having a consistent framerate.
^This
Which is what capping gets me. Wish I had done it years ago, but was
snowed by the moar frames (!!!) marketing line.
We need an action based chess! I wonder if it exists. :P Actually,
American McGee's Alice games had chess elements.
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:13:35 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB
wrote:
The whole framerate thing seems to quite divide people into to the you
must have 100FPS+ and it doesn't really matter. Personally it's only
when you get into to the 20's that I think I really start noticing
although part of that is I don't tend to play the type of games that
require a high frame rate.
The more important part is having a consistent framerate.
I'm OK with 30 FPS. LOL.
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 18:25:06 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
We need an action based chess! I wonder if it exists. :P Actually,
American McGee's Alice games had chess elements.
"BattleChess" (and its endless remakes and knock-offs)!
I was personally always fondest of Quess, a mod that merged Quake and
chess. The fiends were the knights* and watching them leap across the
board and tear into their victims was always fun. Alas, it was
multiplayer only, as it had no AI engine to play against. Still fun,
though.
"Battle vs Chess" seems to be the most modern take on the
"Battlechess" idea.
* translation for those only passing familiarity with either game: the leaping demon monsters in Quake were the horsie-pieces in chess
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 09:08:11 -0800, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 1/19/2023 7:47 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 04:08:39 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:Chess works just fine at 1 frame per second!
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 09:39:52 -0500, DMP <mungemaid@nospam.com> wrote: >> >>>
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
(summary: animated gif showing a flat-screen TV mounted on wall, with >> >>>> extending side-panels on either side shapped to look like Nintendo
Switch that hide a variety of video game consoles and gamepads within) >> >>>
This looks less like the work of a video-game addict and more like a
gadget addict.
We video-game addicts don't need stuff like that. That's money better >> >>>> spent on more video games. ;-)
Well, hardwares. That part is expensive! ;)
Bah, a real addict plays on a potato PC if we have to. Just because
it's not a /good/ hit doesn't mean it isn't a hit. Gaming at three
frames per second is still gaming ;-)
What's the name of this newsgroup again? Lol
We need an action based chess! I wonder if it exists. :P Actually,
American McGee's Alice games had chess elements.
What's the name of this newsgroup again? Lol
My personal favorite "action chess" was Archon by Free Fall Associates. >Played properly on an Atari 800, though I played the C=64 version because >that's what I had. It's not exactly chess, but it's inspired by it.
On 20/01/2023 16:46, Zaghadka wrote:
What's the name of this newsgroup again? Lol
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.actionandotherstuffgamesboardgameslaughingatnftsrambling
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 11:12:31 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 20/01/2023 16:46, Zaghadka wrote:
What's the name of this newsgroup again? Lol
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.actionandotherstuffgamesboardgameslaughingatnftsrambling
Good ol' c.s.i.p.g.a.a.o.s.g.b.g.l.a.n.r
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 11:12:31 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 20/01/2023 16:46, Zaghadka wrote:
What's the name of this newsgroup again? Lol
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.actionandotherstuffgamesboardgameslaughingatnftsrambling
Good ol' c.s.i.p.g.a.a.o.s.g.b.g.l.a.n.r
Someone make this newsgroup please. :P
On 20/01/2023 16:46, Zaghadka wrote:
What's the name of this newsgroup again? Lol
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.actionandotherstuffgamesboardgameslaughingatnftsrambling
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 18:24:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:13:35 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB >>> wrote:
The whole framerate thing seems to quite divide people into to the you >>>> must have 100FPS+ and it doesn't really matter. Personally it's only
when you get into to the 20's that I think I really start noticing
although part of that is I don't tend to play the type of games that
require a high frame rate.
The more important part is having a consistent framerate.
Damn straight. Once your eye gets used to a framerate, you only notice
its deficincies if it suddenly goes up or down. And you're more likely
to notice that happening if you chase after the highest frame-rates.
I'm OK with 30 FPS. LOL.
Me too. One of the advantages of aging is that the eye is easier to
trick. And - while I'd notice it - I can tolerate 15fps. Or even
lower, depending on what type of game I'm playing (10fps might be hard
on a 3D FPS game, where each frame could equal 30+ degrees of
movement, but with a fixed-camera platformer? It's doable. Just ask
those hundreds of DOS games I've played ;-).
On 20/01/2023 20:05, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 18:24:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:13:35 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB >>>> wrote:
The whole framerate thing seems to quite divide people into to the you >>>>> must have 100FPS+ and it doesn't really matter. Personally it's only >>>>> when you get into to the 20's that I think I really start noticing
although part of that is I don't tend to play the type of games that >>>>> require a high frame rate.
The more important part is having a consistent framerate.
Damn straight. Once your eye gets used to a framerate, you only notice
its deficincies if it suddenly goes up or down. And you're more likely
to notice that happening if you chase after the highest frame-rates.
I'm OK with 30 FPS. LOL.
Me too. One of the advantages of aging is that the eye is easier to
trick. And - while I'd notice it - I can tolerate 15fps. Or even
lower, depending on what type of game I'm playing (10fps might be hard
on a 3D FPS game, where each frame could equal 30+ degrees of
movement, but with a fixed-camera platformer? It's doable. Just ask
those hundreds of DOS games I've played ;-).
I'm not quite sure where my exact limit is but I'm pretty sure 15 FPS in
any 3D game would be a no-no to me as it's a constant breaking immersion >issue.
Overall though I think image fidelity is in the category of once you get >something better it's hard to go back even though the isn't this great >experience has long since faded. I used to watch a lot of TV in my
parents kitchen on a 12" portable and I can't say it in anyway effected
my enjoyment. My 'gaming monitor' for playing the Atari ST was a 12"
Sony Trinitron TV which I still have as I just can't bring myself to get
rid of it. The reason I call it a 'gaming monitor' is it's so advanced
that it has two RF inputs so you can select between TV and computer.
Advanced for it's time I can tell you!
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 11:36:36 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 20/01/2023 20:05, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 18:24:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:13:35 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB >>>>> wrote:
The whole framerate thing seems to quite divide people into to the you >>>>>> must have 100FPS+ and it doesn't really matter. Personally it's only >>>>>> when you get into to the 20's that I think I really start noticing >>>>>> although part of that is I don't tend to play the type of games that >>>>>> require a high frame rate.
The more important part is having a consistent framerate.
Damn straight. Once your eye gets used to a framerate, you only notice
its deficincies if it suddenly goes up or down. And you're more likely
to notice that happening if you chase after the highest frame-rates.
I'm OK with 30 FPS. LOL.
Me too. One of the advantages of aging is that the eye is easier to
trick. And - while I'd notice it - I can tolerate 15fps. Or even
lower, depending on what type of game I'm playing (10fps might be hard
on a 3D FPS game, where each frame could equal 30+ degrees of
movement, but with a fixed-camera platformer? It's doable. Just ask
those hundreds of DOS games I've played ;-).
I'm not quite sure where my exact limit is but I'm pretty sure 15 FPS in
any 3D game would be a no-no to me as it's a constant breaking immersion
issue.
Overall though I think image fidelity is in the category of once you get
something better it's hard to go back even though the isn't this great
experience has long since faded. I used to watch a lot of TV in my
parents kitchen on a 12" portable and I can't say it in anyway effected
my enjoyment. My 'gaming monitor' for playing the Atari ST was a 12"
Sony Trinitron TV which I still have as I just can't bring myself to get
rid of it. The reason I call it a 'gaming monitor' is it's so advanced
that it has two RF inputs so you can select between TV and computer.
Advanced for it's time I can tell you!
Better than the usual thing, an RF-splitter dongle with a tiny switch
you could toggle. Those things were so (electronically) noisy!
Or - worse - actually swapping the cables every time you wanted to
play Pong.
Meanwhile, these days I bitch about how slow my TV's 'input' feature
is; you know, the one with ten options and I control from across the
room with a remote.
Is it possible that maybe, just maybe... we've all gotten a bit
spoiled? I mean, when was the last time you used a pair of pliers to
turn the channel because the knob fell off your TV? ;-)
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
On 1/22/2023 7:47 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 11:36:36 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 20/01/2023 20:05, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 18:24:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:13:35 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB
wrote:
The whole framerate thing seems to quite divide people into to the you >>>>>> must have 100FPS+ and it doesn't really matter. Personally it's only >>>>>> when you get into to the 20's that I think I really start noticing >>>>>> although part of that is I don't tend to play the type of games that >>>>>> require a high frame rate.
The more important part is having a consistent framerate.
Damn straight. Once your eye gets used to a framerate, you only notice >>> its deficincies if it suddenly goes up or down. And you're more likely >>> to notice that happening if you chase after the highest frame-rates.
I'm OK with 30 FPS. LOL.
Me too. One of the advantages of aging is that the eye is easier to
trick. And - while I'd notice it - I can tolerate 15fps. Or even
lower, depending on what type of game I'm playing (10fps might be hard >>> on a 3D FPS game, where each frame could equal 30+ degrees of
movement, but with a fixed-camera platformer? It's doable. Just ask
those hundreds of DOS games I've played ;-).
I'm not quite sure where my exact limit is but I'm pretty sure 15 FPS in >> any 3D game would be a no-no to me as it's a constant breaking immersion >> issue.
Overall though I think image fidelity is in the category of once you get >> something better it's hard to go back even though the isn't this great
experience has long since faded. I used to watch a lot of TV in my
parents kitchen on a 12" portable and I can't say it in anyway effected
my enjoyment. My 'gaming monitor' for playing the Atari ST was a 12"
Sony Trinitron TV which I still have as I just can't bring myself to get >> rid of it. The reason I call it a 'gaming monitor' is it's so advanced
that it has two RF inputs so you can select between TV and computer.
Advanced for it's time I can tell you!
Better than the usual thing, an RF-splitter dongle with a tiny switch
you could toggle. Those things were so (electronically) noisy!
Or - worse - actually swapping the cables every time you wanted to
play Pong.
Meanwhile, these days I bitch about how slow my TV's 'input' feature
is; you know, the one with ten options and I control from across the
room with a remote.
Is it possible that maybe, just maybe... we've all gotten a bit
spoiled? I mean, when was the last time you used a pair of pliers to
turn the channel because the knob fell off your TV? ;-)
When was the last time you had a TV with a knob? Or even controls ON
the TV itself for changing the channel?
On 1/17/2023 9:39 AM, DMP wrote:
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
That's very impressive, Diane*, thanks for posting. The engineering and skills required to construct something like this is mind boggling, would
love to see a video of the entire building process if available somewhere.
*that is your name, isn't it? I seem to remember you from the rpg group
way back, apologies if my memory is faulty.
PS: I think Eternal September is no more, keep getting errors when
trying to post. AIOE.org ftw, sorry if this post shows up twice.
On 1/17/2023 9:39 AM, DMP wrote:
Couldn't believe this when I saw it.....
https://imgur.com/gallery/EbrNM1x
That's very impressive, Diane*, thanks for posting. The engineering and skills required to construct something like this is mind boggling, would
love to see a video of the entire building process if available somewhere.
*that is your name, isn't it? I seem to remember you from the rpg group
way back, apologies if my memory is faulty.
PS: I think Eternal September is no more, keep getting errors when
trying to post. AIOE.org ftw, sorry if this post shows up twice.
On 1/22/2023 7:47 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 11:36:36 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 20/01/2023 20:05, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 18:24:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:13:35 +0000, in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB
wrote:
The whole framerate thing seems to quite divide people into to
the you
must have 100FPS+ and it doesn't really matter. Personally it's only >>>>>>> when you get into to the 20's that I think I really start noticing >>>>>>> although part of that is I don't tend to play the type of games that >>>>>>> require a high frame rate.
The more important part is having a consistent framerate.
Damn straight. Once your eye gets used to a framerate, you only notice >>>> its deficincies if it suddenly goes up or down. And you're more likely >>>> to notice that happening if you chase after the highest frame-rates.
I'm OK with 30 FPS. LOL.
Me too. One of the advantages of aging is that the eye is easier to
trick. And - while I'd notice it - I can tolerate 15fps. Or even
lower, depending on what type of game I'm playing (10fps might be hard >>>> on a 3D FPS game, where each frame could equal 30+ degrees of
movement, but with a fixed-camera platformer? It's doable. Just ask
those hundreds of DOS games I've played ;-).
I'm not quite sure where my exact limit is but I'm pretty sure 15 FPS in >>> any 3D game would be a no-no to me as it's a constant breaking immersion >>> issue.
Overall though I think image fidelity is in the category of once you get >>> something better it's hard to go back even though the isn't this great
experience has long since faded. I used to watch a lot of TV in my
parents kitchen on a 12" portable and I can't say it in anyway effected
my enjoyment. My 'gaming monitor' for playing the Atari ST was a 12"
Sony Trinitron TV which I still have as I just can't bring myself to get >>> rid of it. The reason I call it a 'gaming monitor' is it's so advanced
that it has two RF inputs so you can select between TV and computer.
Advanced for it's time I can tell you!
Better than the usual thing, an RF-splitter dongle with a tiny switch
you could toggle. Those things were so (electronically) noisy!
Or - worse - actually swapping the cables every time you wanted to
play Pong.
Meanwhile, these days I bitch about how slow my TV's 'input' feature
is; you know, the one with ten options and I control from across the
room with a remote.
Is it possible that maybe, just maybe... we've all gotten a bitWhen was the last time you had a TV with a knob? Or even controls ON
spoiled? I mean, when was the last time you used a pair of pliers to
turn the channel because the knob fell off your TV? ;-)
the TV itself for changing the channel?
PS: I think Eternal September is no more, keep getting errors when
trying to post. AIOE.org ftw, sorry if this post shows up twice.
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 10:13:31 -0600, Zaghadka <zagh...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 10:47:45 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Bah, a real addict plays on a potato PC if we have to. Just because
it's not a /good/ hit doesn't mean it isn't a hit. Gaming at three
frames per second is still gaming ;-)
Oooh! Oooh! Turtle in Quake on a 486DX. Yes!Been there, done that. I remember running Quake on my 486/33. To say
it was slow would be an understatement. I think my /high/ was 5FPS. I
tried playing the game that way, but I don't recall that I got very
far (like, not further than the opening map where you select
difficulty levels)
Later I got a Pentium 100. My framerates went up to a whopping 10fps
average; amazing! And surprisingly playable.
But Quake didn't become /enjoyable/ until I added a 3DFX card (with a whopping 6MB of video RAM). Silky smooth framerates at an unbelievable 640x480 resolution. Would technology ever get more impressive than
that? ;-)
All of which may explain why I have little tolerance for people
bitching about not being able to get 120fps in their games nowadays.
;-)
On 22/01/2023 18:01, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 1/22/2023 7:47 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:What I found out recently after having problems with the HDMI connection
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 11:36:36 +0000, JAB <no...@nochance.com> wrote:
On 20/01/2023 20:05, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 18:24:15 +0000, a...@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Zaghadka <zagh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 11:13:35 +0000, in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB
wrote:
The whole framerate thing seems to quite divide people into to >>>>>>> the you
must have 100FPS+ and it doesn't really matter. Personally it's only >>>>>>> when you get into to the 20's that I think I really start noticing >>>>>>> although part of that is I don't tend to play the type of games that >>>>>>> require a high frame rate.
The more important part is having a consistent framerate.
Damn straight. Once your eye gets used to a framerate, you only notice >>>> its deficincies if it suddenly goes up or down. And you're more likely >>>> to notice that happening if you chase after the highest frame-rates. >>>>
I'm OK with 30 FPS. LOL.
Me too. One of the advantages of aging is that the eye is easier to
trick. And - while I'd notice it - I can tolerate 15fps. Or even
lower, depending on what type of game I'm playing (10fps might be hard >>>> on a 3D FPS game, where each frame could equal 30+ degrees of
movement, but with a fixed-camera platformer? It's doable. Just ask
those hundreds of DOS games I've played ;-).
I'm not quite sure where my exact limit is but I'm pretty sure 15 FPS in >>> any 3D game would be a no-no to me as it's a constant breaking immersion >>> issue.
Overall though I think image fidelity is in the category of once you get >>> something better it's hard to go back even though the isn't this great >>> experience has long since faded. I used to watch a lot of TV in my
parents kitchen on a 12" portable and I can't say it in anyway effected >>> my enjoyment. My 'gaming monitor' for playing the Atari ST was a 12"
Sony Trinitron TV which I still have as I just can't bring myself to get >>> rid of it. The reason I call it a 'gaming monitor' is it's so advanced >>> that it has two RF inputs so you can select between TV and computer.
Advanced for it's time I can tell you!
Better than the usual thing, an RF-splitter dongle with a tiny switch
you could toggle. Those things were so (electronically) noisy!
Or - worse - actually swapping the cables every time you wanted to
play Pong.
Meanwhile, these days I bitch about how slow my TV's 'input' feature
is; you know, the one with ten options and I control from across the
room with a remote.
on our Sky Satellite box. It only recognises it as a Sky box meaning you
can access the TV guide only if it's connected to the HDMI ARC port. I
hadn't even heard of it before and I'm not sure the version of the box
we have even supports it. Makes perfect sense to me.
Is it possible that maybe, just maybe... we've all gotten a bitWhen was the last time you had a TV with a knob? Or even controls ON
spoiled? I mean, when was the last time you used a pair of pliers to
turn the channel because the knob fell off your TV? ;-)
the TV itself for changing the channel?
Oh gawd, besides the portable TV's from my childhood it was all preset channel buttons and sliders for the volume etc. As for buttons, do TV's
even still have them at all now?
Oh gawd, besides the portable TV's from my childhood it was all preset >channel buttons and sliders for the volume etc. As for buttons, do TV's
even still have them at all now?
When was the last time you had a TV with a knob? Or even controls ON
the TV itself for changing the channel?
Oh gawd, besides the portable TV's from my childhood it was all preset channel buttons and sliders for the volume etc. As for buttons, do TV's even still have them at all now?
I think mine still has a power button. I really wish my blue ray player
had buttons too, it does have power and eject but that's it. I looked
into getting one with all the buttons, but it adds about $100-150 to
the price, I can buy a lot of remotes when I lose one for that much,
I just bought a replacement after 2 years of not using it as I got some
DVDs for my birthday I wanted to watch (Pirates of Darkwater) it was
about $10 including shipping.
When was the last time you had a TV with a knob? Or even controls ONOh gawd, besides the portable TV's from my childhood it was all preset
the TV itself for changing the channel?
channel buttons and sliders for the volume etc. As for buttons, do TV's
even still have them at all now?
I think mine still has a power button. I really wish my blue ray player
had buttons too, it does have power and eject but that's it. I looked
into getting one with all the buttons, but it adds about $100-150 to
the price, I can buy a lot of remotes when I lose one for that much,
I just bought a replacement after 2 years of not using it as I got some
DVDs for my birthday I wanted to watch (Pirates of Darkwater) it was
about $10 including shipping.
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 12:31:38 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
Oh gawd, besides the portable TV's from my childhood it was all preset
channel buttons and sliders for the volume etc. As for buttons, do TV's
even still have them at all now?
Yeah, but usually those awful soft-touch buttons that are
inconveniently placed, poorly marked and only control a fraction of
the TV's functions.
I wished everything still had lots of buttons. I hate the current RCs
with few buttons like for ATV, Roku, etc. :(
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 01:31:27 +0000, a...@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
I wished everything still had lots of buttons. I hate the current RCsAnd now you've gone and gotten me started on the lack of proper
with few buttons like for ATV, Roku, etc. :(
buttons in cars...
Because nothing is more wonderful than trying to figure out which
sub-menu I need to navigate to in the car's touch-screen control
system to turn on the AC. Or when the screen fritzes out and pretty
much everything except the most basic features are inaccessible until
I replace the overpriced unit.
Oh, for proper buttons and dials, with wonderful tactile feedback and
always placed exactly in the same place, on a modern car. Sure, it
might not look as 'glamorous' as a shiny* screen, but they're a hell
of a lot more usable.
On 23/01/2023 15:54, Justisaur wrote:
When was the last time you had a TV with a knob? Or even controls ON >>>> the TV itself for changing the channel?Oh gawd, besides the portable TV's from my childhood it was all preset
channel buttons and sliders for the volume etc. As for buttons, do TV's
even still have them at all now?
I think mine still has a power button. I really wish my blue ray player
had buttons too, it does have power and eject but that's it. I looked
into getting one with all the buttons, but it adds about $100-150 to
the price, I can buy a lot of remotes when I lose one for that much,
I just bought a replacement after 2 years of not using it as I got some
DVDs for my birthday I wanted to watch (Pirates of Darkwater) it was
about $10 including shipping.
Ours is getting on a bit but it does have a four-way control button that
you could if you wish use to access most functionality. As for losing
remote controls, I've certainly done it temporarily (our old sofa seemed
to eat them when least expected) but I'm now in the habit of for at
least the DVD one of putting it back on top of the DVD player after
using it as not used everyday.
For a ingenious solution I had a friend that stuck some velcro to the
sofa and the remote controls. Viola a remote control holder.
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 01:31:27 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
I wished everything still had lots of buttons. I hate the current RCs
with few buttons like for ATV, Roku, etc. :(
And now you've gone and gotten me started on the lack of proper
buttons in cars...
Because nothing is more wonderful than trying to figure out which
sub-menu I need to navigate to in the car's touch-screen control
system to turn on the AC. Or when the screen fritzes out and pretty
much everything except the most basic features are inaccessible until
I replace the overpriced unit.
Oh, for proper buttons and dials, with wonderful tactile feedback and
always placed exactly in the same place, on a modern car. Sure, it
might not look as 'glamorous' as a shiny* screen, but they're a hell
of a lot more usable.
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