• Re: We should talk about new games we just played!

    From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Dec 4 19:12:54 2022
    On Sun, 04 Dec 2022 23:50:50 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Instead of waiting for the new month. ;) For me, I played Secret
    Neighbor: Hello Neighbor Multiplayer on Steam during its free weekend. I >played for about 1.5 hours. I had to learn how to play from its
    tutorials. I played online as a scout since I wanted to shoot
    slingshots! It was interesting, different, and fun! :D

    You're just trying to score points pre-emptively. I'm not falling for
    it ;-)

    Besides, if I say what I'm playing NOW what will I talk about at the
    end of the month?

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 4 23:50:50 2022
    Instead of waiting for the new month. ;) For me, I played Secret
    Neighbor: Hello Neighbor Multiplayer on Steam during its free weekend. I
    played for about 1.5 hours. I had to learn how to play from its
    tutorials. I played online as a scout since I wanted to shoot
    slingshots! It was interesting, different, and fun! :D

    OK, your turn!
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Dec 5 01:50:19 2022
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 04 Dec 2022 23:50:50 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Instead of waiting for the new month. ;) For me, I played Secret
    Neighbor: Hello Neighbor Multiplayer on Steam during its free weekend. I >played for about 1.5 hours. I had to learn how to play from its
    tutorials. I played online as a scout since I wanted to shoot
    slingshots! It was interesting, different, and fun! :D

    You're just trying to score points pre-emptively. I'm not falling for
    it ;-)

    Besides, if I say what I'm playing NOW what will I talk about at the
    end of the month?

    You repost. :)
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Dec 4 17:47:53 2022
    On 12/4/2022 4:12 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sun, 04 Dec 2022 23:50:50 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Instead of waiting for the new month. ;) For me, I played Secret
    Neighbor: Hello Neighbor Multiplayer on Steam during its free weekend. I
    played for about 1.5 hours. I had to learn how to play from its
    tutorials. I played online as a scout since I wanted to shoot
    slingshots! It was interesting, different, and fun! :D

    You're just trying to score points pre-emptively. I'm not falling for
    it ;-)

    Besides, if I say what I'm playing NOW what will I talk about at the
    end of the month?

    It will be a good excuse to repeat yourself?

    Personally I generally don't engage in the "What did you play last
    month?" threads because I can't be bothered remembering exactly what I
    played.

    As for Ant's original post here, over the weekend I bought 'Curious
    Expedition 2' and have been playing that. (Actually I bought a bundle
    that included the first 'Curious Expedition', CE2 and all the current
    DLCs for 2.) Its an interesting game and entertaining. A steampunk
    1880s of pompous Explorers going out to Explore Mysterious Islands that
    are appearing in the ocean before disappearing again. Think of a world
    where Jules Verne wasn't writing fiction, it was news reports for the
    papers. (Literally, he appears as a character in the game!) Also your character talks like those stereotype "stiff upper lip" British
    explorers that we all like to make fun of. :)

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Mon Dec 5 01:52:05 2022
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 12/4/2022 4:12 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sun, 04 Dec 2022 23:50:50 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Instead of waiting for the new month. ;) For me, I played Secret
    Neighbor: Hello Neighbor Multiplayer on Steam during its free weekend. I >> played for about 1.5 hours. I had to learn how to play from its
    tutorials. I played online as a scout since I wanted to shoot
    slingshots! It was interesting, different, and fun! :D

    Also, I wanted to play more today, but couldn't due to real life. :(


    You're just trying to score points pre-emptively. I'm not falling for
    it ;-)

    Besides, if I say what I'm playing NOW what will I talk about at the
    end of the month?

    It will be a good excuse to repeat yourself?

    Yeah!


    Personally I generally don't engage in the "What did you play last
    month?" threads because I can't be bothered remembering exactly what I played.

    Exactly! I can't remember too!


    As for Ant's original post here, over the weekend I bought 'Curious Expedition 2' and have been playing that. (Actually I bought a bundle
    that included the first 'Curious Expedition', CE2 and all the current
    DLCs for 2.) Its an interesting game and entertaining. A steampunk
    1880s of pompous Explorers going out to Explore Mysterious Islands that
    are appearing in the ocean before disappearing again. Think of a world
    where Jules Verne wasn't writing fiction, it was news reports for the
    papers. (Literally, he appears as a character in the game!) Also your character talks like those stereotype "stiff upper lip" British
    explorers that we all like to make fun of. :)

    Nice.
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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Dec 5 06:20:53 2022
    On Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 5:52:09 PM UTC-8, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 12/4/2022 4:12 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sun, 04 Dec 2022 23:50:50 +0000, a...@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Instead of waiting for the new month. ;) For me, I played Secret
    Neighbor: Hello Neighbor Multiplayer on Steam during its free weekend. I >> played for about 1.5 hours. I had to learn how to play from its
    tutorials. I played online as a scout since I wanted to shoot
    slingshots! It was interesting, different, and fun! :D
    Also, I wanted to play more today, but couldn't due to real life. :(
    You're just trying to score points pre-emptively. I'm not falling for
    it ;-)

    Besides, if I say what I'm playing NOW what will I talk about at the
    end of the month?

    It will be a good excuse to repeat yourself?
    Yeah!
    Personally I generally don't engage in the "What did you play last
    month?" threads because I can't be bothered remembering exactly what I played.
    Exactly! I can't remember too!

    Nor can I. Which is why I often post about what I'm playing when I'm
    still excited about what I'm playing. The end of the month is where
    I look through my steam, gog and epic clients and if I can remember the
    other clients to see what it was I was playing and make sober critiques
    of what I played. I also enjoy doing that as it lets me remember
    and record my thoughts on the games.

    So far since I posted the monthly I've only been playing dungeon robber
    flash game, more to mine it for tables and how things work and running
    my house ruled play by post, which has slowed down at last, but is still
    the most active PbP game I've run. I'm also surprised I haven't had anyone drop from it. Everyone's posted at least once every day. Usually there's
    at least one or two players that silently stop.

    - Justisaur

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  • From kyonshi@21:1/5 to Ant on Tue Dec 6 09:45:57 2022
    On 05/12/2022 00:50, Ant wrote:
    Instead of waiting for the new month. ;) For me, I played Secret
    Neighbor: Hello Neighbor Multiplayer on Steam during its free weekend. I played for about 1.5 hours. I had to learn how to play from its
    tutorials. I played online as a scout since I wanted to shoot
    slingshots! It was interesting, different, and fun! :D

    OK, your turn!

    Well, the only really new games I played where connected with my Humble
    Choice subscription. I keep wondering if it really is worth it, because
    every month there really aren't that many games in there I am interested
    in playing. This month was a bit better than usual as there were a few I
    think could possibly be interesting.

    I tried Raji, which seems to be an Indian action RPG, unfortunately my lackluster hardware together with a slightly too long opening
    I installed Eldest souls, but what I actually played was Shadow Tactics:
    Blades of the Shogun. Not even the Aiko's Choice standalone expansion in
    last month's bundle, but the original game which I never managed to get
    through before. I am still stuck on the first level and I wonder if I
    maybe should stoop to watch some playthrough videos about it because I'd
    like to do something else than this stupid castle in Osaka.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to kyonshi on Tue Dec 6 09:43:16 2022
    On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 09:45:57 +0100, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 05/12/2022 00:50, Ant wrote:
    Instead of waiting for the new month. ;) For me, I played Secret
    Neighbor: Hello Neighbor Multiplayer on Steam during its free weekend. I
    played for about 1.5 hours. I had to learn how to play from its
    tutorials. I played online as a scout since I wanted to shoot
    slingshots! It was interesting, different, and fun! :D

    OK, your turn!

    Well, the only really new games I played where connected with my Humble >Choice subscription. I keep wondering if it really is worth it, because
    every month there really aren't that many games in there I am interested
    in playing. This month was a bit better than usual as there were a few I >think could possibly be interesting.

    I know the feeling. HumbleChoice always had a number of filler games I
    knew would just end up at the bottom of the 'never play' pile, but
    those were usually made up with a few really excellent games.
    Nowadays, we're lucky if we get one 'Oh, that's nice' games that I'll
    play but wasn't eagerly awaiting, one or two average tiles, and the
    rest are filler. The subscription is still worth what I pay for it...
    but the value has dropped dramatically and the trend is unsettling.

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 6 15:02:03 2022
    OK, your turn!

    Haha! I haven't started a new game yet, but am swearing up and down I
    will play and finish Deus Ex Go on my iPad *this month*, before those
    bastards remove it!!

    rms

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 7 10:16:51 2022
    Instead of waiting for the new month.

    Ant I installed Firewatch & Aliens Fireteam Elite on pc gamepass, both because they leave the 'free' tier next next friday and wanted to check them out, and firewatch because I think its possible to finish.

    rms

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to rms on Wed Dec 7 13:05:25 2022
    On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 9:16:57 AM UTC-8, rms wrote:
    Instead of waiting for the new month.
    Ant I installed Firewatch & Aliens Fireteam Elite on pc gamepass, both because they leave the 'free' tier next next friday and wanted to check them out, and firewatch because I think its possible to finish.


    As long as we're doing that... I just played Vermintide II again. Still fun, but my 3rd mission I was reminded of the horrid fps parkour. I'll probably still play a bit more though.

    I do remember I was going to go try Vermintide I again, or Witcher 3 for
    the first time, or try to get through Witcher 2 which I abandoned at the big creature. So many games, so little time.

    - Justisaur

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  • From kyonshi@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Dec 8 09:57:37 2022
    On 06/12/2022 15:43, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 09:45:57 +0100, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 05/12/2022 00:50, Ant wrote:
    Instead of waiting for the new month. ;) For me, I played Secret
    Neighbor: Hello Neighbor Multiplayer on Steam during its free weekend. I >>> played for about 1.5 hours. I had to learn how to play from its
    tutorials. I played online as a scout since I wanted to shoot
    slingshots! It was interesting, different, and fun! :D

    OK, your turn!

    Well, the only really new games I played where connected with my Humble
    Choice subscription. I keep wondering if it really is worth it, because
    every month there really aren't that many games in there I am interested
    in playing. This month was a bit better than usual as there were a few I
    think could possibly be interesting.

    I know the feeling. HumbleChoice always had a number of filler games I
    knew would just end up at the bottom of the 'never play' pile, but
    those were usually made up with a few really excellent games.
    Nowadays, we're lucky if we get one 'Oh, that's nice' games that I'll
    play but wasn't eagerly awaiting, one or two average tiles, and the
    rest are filler. The subscription is still worth what I pay for it...
    but the value has dropped dramatically and the trend is unsettling.


    I started Eldest Souls. It's a pixel souls-like.

    I have the suspicion this is very much someone trying to rip off Dark
    Souls and Elden Ring even in name. Anyway, I haven't gotten far as of
    yet. It's about as frustrating as my ventures into Dark Souls so far.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to rms on Fri Dec 9 10:29:54 2022
    On 07/12/2022 17:16, rms wrote:
    Instead of waiting for the new month.

      Ant I installed Firewatch & Aliens Fireteam Elite on pc gamepass,
    both because they leave the 'free' tier next next friday and wanted to
    check them out, and firewatch because I think its possible to finish.


    I've played through Firewatch twice (which is a rarity for me) and it's
    a great game in the mould of playing through an unfolding story. Two of
    the parts I really liked are that the relationship between the PC and
    the NPC I actually cared about more than the normal what can I get from
    them. It also has a nice map feature where it's represented by a real
    map that you hold in your hand with a compass. It's only a little thing
    but it's surprising how much it adds to the immersion.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Dec 9 11:51:51 2022
    On Fri, 9 Dec 2022 10:29:54 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:



    I've played through Firewatch twice (which is a rarity for me) and it's
    a great game in the mould of playing through an unfolding story. Two of
    the parts I really liked are that the relationship between the PC and
    the NPC I actually cared about more than the normal what can I get from
    them. It also has a nice map feature where it's represented by a real
    map that you hold in your hand with a compass. It's only a little thing
    but it's surprising how much it adds to the immersion.

    The dialogue system in Firewatch is perhaps the most natural I've seen
    in any game. It takes into account not only what answers you give, but
    whether (and when) you've interupted the other speaker, or even if you
    don't say anything at all. The only downside is that dialogue is - as
    with too many movies and games - so obviously scripted (none of the
    "erms" and "uhs" that punctuate normal speech, or the malapropism
    we're all prey to) but otherwise it's as close to talking to a real
    person as I've seen in any game.

    I liked the map too, but it's not unique to Firewatch. "Farcry 2"
    utilized a similar feature, and it greatly helped the feeling of being
    actually part of the game world. Unfortunately, it was apparently
    disliked by enough gamers that the later iterations of the franchise
    went to a more standard model.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Dec 10 11:29:35 2022
    On 09/12/2022 16:51, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    The dialogue system in Firewatch is perhaps the most natural I've seen
    in any game. It takes into account not only what answers you give, but whether (and when) you've interupted the other speaker, or even if you
    don't say anything at all. The only downside is that dialogue is - as
    with too many movies and games - so obviously scripted (none of the
    "erms" and "uhs" that punctuate normal speech, or the malapropism
    we're all prey to) but otherwise it's as close to talking to a real
    person as I've seen in any game.

    That I can't say I mind and probably prefer. The one I don't like is
    when you have some child speaking as though they are in the 40's.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Dec 10 09:54:46 2022
    On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 11:29:35 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 09/12/2022 16:51, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    The dialogue system in Firewatch is perhaps the most natural I've seen
    in any game. It takes into account not only what answers you give, but
    whether (and when) you've interupted the other speaker, or even if you
    don't say anything at all. The only downside is that dialogue is - as
    with too many movies and games - so obviously scripted (none of the
    "erms" and "uhs" that punctuate normal speech, or the malapropism
    we're all prey to) but otherwise it's as close to talking to a real
    person as I've seen in any game.

    That I can't say I mind and probably prefer. The one I don't like is
    when you have some child speaking as though they are in the 40's.

    I don't mind. Obviously, dialogue edited to remove all the
    imperfections of normal speech is easier to understand and sounds
    better. There's not one of us who hasn't had a brain fart where we go 'uhhhhhhhhhhhhh' as we struggle to remember a word and I think we -
    and our listeners - would be happier if that never happened. There's a
    reason most film-makers don't slavishly emulate realistic speech
    patterns in their creations.

    So I don't mind the edited variety. But I do notice. ;-)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Dec 11 11:05:47 2022
    On 10/12/2022 14:54, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 11:29:35 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 09/12/2022 16:51, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    The dialogue system in Firewatch is perhaps the most natural I've seen
    in any game. It takes into account not only what answers you give, but
    whether (and when) you've interupted the other speaker, or even if you
    don't say anything at all. The only downside is that dialogue is - as
    with too many movies and games - so obviously scripted (none of the
    "erms" and "uhs" that punctuate normal speech, or the malapropism
    we're all prey to) but otherwise it's as close to talking to a real
    person as I've seen in any game.

    That I can't say I mind and probably prefer. The one I don't like is
    when you have some child speaking as though they are in the 40's.

    I don't mind. Obviously, dialogue edited to remove all the
    imperfections of normal speech is easier to understand and sounds
    better. There's not one of us who hasn't had a brain fart where we go 'uhhhhhhhhhhhhh' as we struggle to remember a word and I think we -
    and our listeners - would be happier if that never happened. There's a
    reason most film-makers don't slavishly emulate realistic speech
    patterns in their creations.

    So I don't mind the edited variety. But I do notice. ;-)


    One of the ones that grates with me, but I also understand why they do
    it, is one character points something out then another character
    explains what it means even though it would be obvious to both
    characters what it means.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Dec 11 09:16:36 2022
    On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 11:05:47 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 10/12/2022 14:54, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 11:29:35 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 09/12/2022 16:51, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    The dialogue system in Firewatch is perhaps the most natural I've seen >>>> in any game. It takes into account not only what answers you give, but >>>> whether (and when) you've interupted the other speaker, or even if you >>>> don't say anything at all. The only downside is that dialogue is - as
    with too many movies and games - so obviously scripted (none of the
    "erms" and "uhs" that punctuate normal speech, or the malapropism
    we're all prey to) but otherwise it's as close to talking to a real
    person as I've seen in any game.

    That I can't say I mind and probably prefer. The one I don't like is
    when you have some child speaking as though they are in the 40's.

    I don't mind. Obviously, dialogue edited to remove all the
    imperfections of normal speech is easier to understand and sounds
    better. There's not one of us who hasn't had a brain fart where we go
    'uhhhhhhhhhhhhh' as we struggle to remember a word and I think we -
    and our listeners - would be happier if that never happened. There's a
    reason most film-makers don't slavishly emulate realistic speech
    patterns in their creations.

    So I don't mind the edited variety. But I do notice. ;-)


    One of the ones that grates with me, but I also understand why they do
    it, is one character points something out then another character
    explains what it means even though it would be obvious to both
    characters what it means.

    "As you know, [explanation]"
    "Yes, I do know, why are you bothering?"

    It's a commonly used narrative trope to provide information to the reader/viewer (who wouldn't know) by repeating something the character
    is already well aware of. It's considered a very hamfisted way of
    doing things, though, so good writers should try to avoid this and
    provide the information in other ways.

    As you know.

    ;-)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Dec 12 09:33:28 2022
    On 11/12/2022 14:16, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 11:05:47 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 10/12/2022 14:54, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 11:29:35 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 09/12/2022 16:51, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    The dialogue system in Firewatch is perhaps the most natural I've seen >>>>> in any game. It takes into account not only what answers you give, but >>>>> whether (and when) you've interupted the other speaker, or even if you >>>>> don't say anything at all. The only downside is that dialogue is - as >>>>> with too many movies and games - so obviously scripted (none of the
    "erms" and "uhs" that punctuate normal speech, or the malapropism
    we're all prey to) but otherwise it's as close to talking to a real
    person as I've seen in any game.

    That I can't say I mind and probably prefer. The one I don't like is
    when you have some child speaking as though they are in the 40's.

    I don't mind. Obviously, dialogue edited to remove all the
    imperfections of normal speech is easier to understand and sounds
    better. There's not one of us who hasn't had a brain fart where we go
    'uhhhhhhhhhhhhh' as we struggle to remember a word and I think we -
    and our listeners - would be happier if that never happened. There's a
    reason most film-makers don't slavishly emulate realistic speech
    patterns in their creations.

    So I don't mind the edited variety. But I do notice. ;-)


    One of the ones that grates with me, but I also understand why they do
    it, is one character points something out then another character
    explains what it means even though it would be obvious to both
    characters what it means.

    "As you know, [explanation]"
    "Yes, I do know, why are you bothering?"

    It's a commonly used narrative trope to provide information to the reader/viewer (who wouldn't know) by repeating something the character
    is already well aware of. It's considered a very hamfisted way of
    doing things, though, so good writers should try to avoid this and
    provide the information in other ways.

    As you know.

    ;-)

    To make it more interesting the writers should have the first character
    say, what are you on about. You can (I've done this at work) do the same
    with Star Trek and what it would be like if it was real engineering!

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