• Crysis remasterered released on Steam

    From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 19 20:50:41 2022
    What the topic says; the 'remastered' versions of Crysis - announced
    about a year ago - are now available for purchase on Steam. Reviews
    are mixed so far, but it's still early days.

    Myself, I'd have a hard time buying these. I loved the first Crysis -
    I was far less sanguine about the two sequels - but this remaster
    doesn't really seem to offer anything that makes it really worth the
    asking price. The visuals aren't significantly better (in fact, I
    often have a hard time seeing any difference) and performance
    apparently hasn't improved. Worse, the simplified controls of the
    sequels have been backported to the first game. Functionally this
    might make for a more streamlined experience, but I always felt the
    first game had a deeper experience whereas the later games felt more
    like arcade shoot-em-ups. But maybe that's just my PC Master Race
    tendencies raising its ugly head again (the simplified controls were
    an obvious concession to the gamepad controls required for the console
    versions of Crysis 2 & 3).

    Most interestingly - to me at least - is that these games are
    published entirely by Crytek and Saber Interactive. The originals all
    involved Electronic Arts, which meant that - unless you played the
    disc-based version of Cryis 1, you needed an EA Origin account. The
    remasters are Origin-free. That alone is /almost/ worth the price of
    admission.

    I dunno, maybe if the price for the trilogy drops below the $10USD
    mark. By then I'll probably be two or three upgrades down the line, so presumably I'll be able to run the game smoothly. Until then, the
    originals are good enough.

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Nov 19 20:24:00 2022
    On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:50:41 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Most interestingly - to me at least - is that these games are
    published entirely by Crytek and Saber Interactive. The originals all >involved Electronic Arts, which meant that - unless you played the
    disc-based version of Cryis 1, you needed an EA Origin account. The
    remasters are Origin-free. That alone is /almost/ worth the price of >admission.

    Yeah, but can your machine run it? ;^)

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Sat Nov 19 21:36:55 2022
    On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:50:41 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    What the topic says; the 'remastered' versions of Crysis - announced
    about a year ago - are now available for purchase on Steam. Reviews
    are mixed so far, but it's still early days.

    Myself, I'd have a hard time buying these. I loved the first Crysis -
    I was far less sanguine about the two sequels - but this remaster
    doesn't really seem to offer anything that makes it really worth the
    asking price. The visuals aren't significantly better (in fact, I
    often have a hard time seeing any difference) and performance
    apparently hasn't improved. Worse, the simplified controls of the
    sequels have been backported to the first game. Functionally this
    might make for a more streamlined experience, but I always felt the
    first game had a deeper experience whereas the later games felt more
    like arcade shoot-em-ups. But maybe that's just my PC Master Race
    tendencies raising its ugly head again (the simplified controls were
    an obvious concession to the gamepad controls required for the console >versions of Crysis 2 & 3).

    Most interestingly - to me at least - is that these games are
    published entirely by Crytek and Saber Interactive. The originals all >involved Electronic Arts, which meant that - unless you played the
    disc-based version of Cryis 1, you needed an EA Origin account. The
    remasters are Origin-free. That alone is /almost/ worth the price of >admission.

    I dunno, maybe if the price for the trilogy drops below the $10USD
    mark. By then I'll probably be two or three upgrades down the line, so >presumably I'll be able to run the game smoothly. Until then, the
    originals are good enough.


    *----

    Not sure about this. There is no wishlist optiong for the trilogy.
    And I don't remember which one I used to play.

    Maybe I should find what I have and replay it for a little while
    first.

    And you say there isn't much difference in graphics in the remastered
    version.

    Any way, thanks for reminding me about Crysis!

    -pw

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 19 21:52:10 2022
    Is EA Origin?

    I have Crysis 3 listed under Origin games but my credentials don't
    work.

    I have been meaning to try Crysis 3 for a while now. Thanks Spalls.

    -pw

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Nov 20 11:17:44 2022
    On 20/11/2022 01:50, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    What the topic says; the 'remastered' versions of Crysis - announced
    about a year ago - are now available for purchase on Steam. Reviews
    are mixed so far, but it's still early days.

    Myself, I'd have a hard time buying these. I loved the first Crysis -
    I was far less sanguine about the two sequels - but this remaster
    doesn't really seem to offer anything that makes it really worth the
    asking price. The visuals aren't significantly better (in fact, I
    often have a hard time seeing any difference) and performance
    apparently hasn't improved. Worse, the simplified controls of the
    sequels have been backported to the first game. Functionally this
    might make for a more streamlined experience, but I always felt the
    first game had a deeper experience whereas the later games felt more
    like arcade shoot-em-ups. But maybe that's just my PC Master Race
    tendencies raising its ugly head again (the simplified controls were
    an obvious concession to the gamepad controls required for the console versions of Crysis 2 & 3).


    I did play the original Crysis (DVD here so no worries about having an
    EA account). It was a good game and I feel a good follow up to Far Cry.
    I picked up Crysis: Warhead a few years ago and very much more of the
    same so worth the, I think £5.

    Crysis 2 I have played but I was fairly disappointed as whereas
    FarCry/Crysis were good games in their own right and also showed what a
    PC was capable of. Crysis 2, nah that felt like what is was and if it
    wasn't for the nano suit I don't think I'd of even thought I was playing
    Crysis as, like you say, it was more a run-of-the-mill FPS.

    Will I pick the remastered versions up. I don't really see the point as although the original graphics aren't up to what you can do today I
    still think they've stood the test of time. I'm also not one who's
    really into the whole graphics part but even FarCry did impress me as
    for once you had this quite open world to explore and not cramped
    environments where you just shoot everything until the enemies stop
    respawning.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Nov 20 10:23:46 2022
    On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 11:17:44 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    I did play the original Crysis (DVD here so no worries about having an
    EA account). It was a good game and I feel a good follow up to Far Cry.
    I picked up Crysis: Warhead a few years ago and very much more of the
    same so worth the, I think £5.

    I think I actually preferred the Warhead expansion to the original
    Crysis 1; it had largely the same gameplay, but improved characters
    and story. On the other hand, some of the levels were too scripted
    though, and overall the expansion was fairly short, so maybe I liked
    the first game more. Taken together, the original+expansion were a
    great experience.


    Crysis 2 I have played but I was fairly disappointed as whereas
    FarCry/Crysis were good games in their own right and also showed what a
    PC was capable of. Crysis 2, nah that felt like what is was and if it
    wasn't for the nano suit I don't think I'd of even thought I was playing >Crysis as, like you say, it was more a run-of-the-mill FPS.

    Crysis 2 had a few things going for it. Running around through a
    devastated NYC is always a joy; be it "Prototype" or "Chaos Control"
    or "Tom Clancy Division" or, yes, "Crysis 2", if I see New York in
    ruins, I'm happy. ;-)

    (I actually /like/ the city... but its ruins make such a wonderful
    sandbox ;-)

    The developers also tried to increase the verticality of the levels;
    the original Crysis was fought almost entirely from ground-level, and
    with Crysis 2 the aim was to give players the advantage of the high
    ground. They didn't always succeed at that, but I give 'em credit for
    trying.

    But otherwise? Yeah, the gameplay was nerfed back to corridor-shooter
    levels with its fairly narrow level design that gave neither the
    player nor the AI any room to manuever. I 100% agree that - without
    the gimmick of the nanosuit - the game was utterly forgettable.

    (Crysis 3 I remember mostly for having so many visual effects - lens
    flare, bloom, etc.) that the game was virtuable unplayable. It was JJ
    Abrams, the video game ;-)

    Will I pick the remastered versions up. I don't really see the point as >although the original graphics aren't up to what you can do today I
    still think they've stood the test of time. I'm also not one who's
    really into the whole graphics part but even FarCry did impress me as
    for once you had this quite open world to explore and not cramped >environments where you just shoot everything until the enemies stop >respawning.

    It's a shame that Crytek became so focused on its visuals, because
    FarCry's biggest selling point was its large world. It actually wasn't
    the best looking game at the time, but it certainly was the best
    looking open world. Crysis was gorgeous, sure, but it received more
    praise (if not more attention) for its big maps and how well the AI
    navigated it. But Crysis 2 and 3 cut back on the scale of their maps
    and nerfed the AI.

    (Crysis 1also had some pretty impressive physics for the time too.
    Also nerfed in the sequels).

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 20 08:59:02 2022
    The developers also tried to increase the verticality of the levels;
    the original Crysis was fought almost entirely from ground-level, and
    with Crysis 2 the aim was to give players the advantage of the high
    ground.

    Yes; and once I got used to the somewhat consolized aspects of this
    sequel (like the fairly narrow FOV), I enjoyed Crysis2 quite a bit. The
    devs took some effort with the plot, I felt, continuing from the previous
    title though with a new playable character. I liked the extras menu where
    you could listen to all the recordings and text messages to help fill in
    plot holes you'd missed, and the 3D suit gallery. C2 was a very decent
    game!

    I did buy Crysis Remastered as well as Crysis 3 Remastered on Epic way back when they first appeared, but just haven't gotten around to playing C3 in particular.

    rms

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to rms on Sun Nov 20 18:44:44 2022
    On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 7:59:07 AM UTC-8, rms wrote:
    The developers also tried to increase the verticality of the levels;
    the original Crysis was fought almost entirely from ground-level, and
    with Crysis 2 the aim was to give players the advantage of the high
    ground.
    Yes; and once I got used to the somewhat consolized aspects of this
    sequel (like the fairly narrow FOV), I enjoyed Crysis2 quite a bit. The
    devs took some effort with the plot, I felt, continuing from the previous title though with a new playable character. I liked the extras menu where
    you could listen to all the recordings and text messages to help fill in
    plot holes you'd missed, and the 3D suit gallery. C2 was a very decent
    game!

    I did buy Crysis Remastered as well as Crysis 3 Remastered on Epic way back when they first appeared, but just haven't gotten around to playing C3 in particular.

    I bought Crysis on GOG at some point... It's on sale for $5 currently. I
    too have yet to play it.

    - Justisaur

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Mon Nov 21 05:54:40 2022
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:50:41 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Most interestingly - to me at least - is that these games are
    published entirely by Crytek and Saber Interactive. The originals all >involved Electronic Arts, which meant that - unless you played the >disc-based version of Cryis 1, you needed an EA Origin account. The >remasters are Origin-free. That alone is /almost/ worth the price of >admission.

    Yeah, but can your machine run it? ;^)

    NO! :P
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Nov 21 06:10:44 2022
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    On 20/11/2022 01:50, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    What the topic says; the 'remastered' versions of Crysis - announced
    about a year ago - are now available for purchase on Steam. Reviews
    are mixed so far, but it's still early days.

    Myself, I'd have a hard time buying these. I loved the first Crysis -
    I was far less sanguine about the two sequels - but this remaster
    doesn't really seem to offer anything that makes it really worth the
    asking price. The visuals aren't significantly better (in fact, I
    often have a hard time seeing any difference) and performance
    apparently hasn't improved. Worse, the simplified controls of the
    sequels have been backported to the first game. Functionally this
    might make for a more streamlined experience, but I always felt the
    first game had a deeper experience whereas the later games felt more
    like arcade shoot-em-ups. But maybe that's just my PC Master Race tendencies raising its ugly head again (the simplified controls were
    an obvious concession to the gamepad controls required for the console versions of Crysis 2 & 3).


    I did play the original Crysis (DVD here so no worries about having an
    EA account). It was a good game and I feel a good follow up to Far Cry.
    I picked up Crysis: Warhead a few years ago and very much more of the
    same so worth the, I think £5.

    Crysis 2 I have played but I was fairly disappointed as whereas
    FarCry/Crysis were good games in their own right and also showed what a
    PC was capable of. Crysis 2, nah that felt like what is was and if it
    wasn't for the nano suit I don't think I'd of even thought I was playing Crysis as, like you say, it was more a run-of-the-mill FPS.

    Will I pick the remastered versions up. I don't really see the point as although the original graphics aren't up to what you can do today I
    still think they've stood the test of time. I'm also not one who's
    really into the whole graphics part but even FarCry did impress me as
    for once you had this quite open world to explore and not cramped environments where you just shoot everything until the enemies stop respawning.

    Ditto. I wonder if I should try Crysis' sequels at all.
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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Nov 21 08:59:16 2022
    On 21/11/2022 06:10, Ant wrote:
    Ditto. I wonder if I should try Crysis' sequels at all.

    I put Crysis 2 in the category it's not that it's a bad game but instead
    my enjoyment was soured by it wasn't what I expected. I'd go as far to
    say that I'd have enjoyed it far more if it didn't have the Crysis name.

    Another example is Bioshock 1, I'd seen the gameplay trailers knew about
    System Shock and had even pre-ordered it in a special metal case. After
    a few hours it became clear that yes the setting was interesting but
    really this is just another FPS. Slightly against my better judgement I
    did pick up Bioshock:Infinite (number 3) in a sale. I actually rather
    liked it because my expectations where just it's a FPS. There's nothing
    special in it but you just get to shoot lots of things!

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Nov 21 10:45:10 2022
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    I dunno, maybe if the price for the trilogy drops below the $10USD
    mark. By then I'll probably be two or three upgrades down the line, so presumably I'll be able to run the game smoothly. Until then, the
    originals are good enough.

    I somehow missed the whole Crysis thing, although I remember playing a
    demo of one of them, I guess Crysis 2 since "nano suit" feels
    familiar. Wasn't interesting enough I guess. So probably not getting the remakes either.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to Anssi Saari on Mon Nov 21 11:30:12 2022
    On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:45:10 +0200, Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    I dunno, maybe if the price for the trilogy drops below the $10USD
    mark. By then I'll probably be two or three upgrades down the line, so
    presumably I'll be able to run the game smoothly. Until then, the
    originals are good enough.

    I somehow missed the whole Crysis thing, although I remember playing a
    demo of one of them, I guess Crysis 2 since "nano suit" feels
    familiar. Wasn't interesting enough I guess. So probably not getting the >remakes either.

    In fairness, a lot of the hype around the game was about how computationally-demanding it was. "Can it run Crysis?" was the meme of
    the day. That there was a passable game behind all that was almost
    incidental.

    And - as much as I enjoyed the game and will proclaim its strengths to
    anyone that asked - on the whole it was an average game. When it was
    good, it was excellent... but there were a lot of parts that dragged
    too. The visuals, the large maps, the physics, the AI: all excellent.
    But the pacing, the story, the driving, and - ultimately - the
    repetitiveness of the gameplay were also problematic.

    "Crysis" was definitely an experience when it was released; it was an eye-opener as to how good PC video gaming could get. But fifteen years
    later? A lot of what made "Crysis" special is de rigueur in modern
    games (although its responsive foliage is still less common than I
    like. Except for it's historical value ("Come see how good games could
    be back in 2007!") it's hard to recommend the title to those who
    missed it the first time.

    (And even back in 2011, I couldn't really recommend "Crysis 2", much
    less today)

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Nov 22 00:10:28 2022
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    On 21/11/2022 06:10, Ant wrote:
    Ditto. I wonder if I should try Crysis' sequels at all.

    I put Crysis 2 in the category it's not that it's a bad game but instead
    my enjoyment was soured by it wasn't what I expected. I'd go as far to
    say that I'd have enjoyed it far more if it didn't have the Crysis name.

    Another example is Bioshock 1, I'd seen the gameplay trailers knew about System Shock and had even pre-ordered it in a special metal case. After
    a few hours it became clear that yes the setting was interesting but
    really this is just another FPS. Slightly against my better judgement I
    did pick up Bioshock:Infinite (number 3) in a sale. I actually rather
    liked it because my expectations where just it's a FPS. There's nothing special in it but you just get to shoot lots of things!

    I loved SS2. BS1 was decent from its playable demo, but it wasn't SS2
    type to me.
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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Ant on Tue Nov 22 10:23:38 2022
    On 22/11/2022 00:10, Ant wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    On 21/11/2022 06:10, Ant wrote:
    Ditto. I wonder if I should try Crysis' sequels at all.

    I put Crysis 2 in the category it's not that it's a bad game but instead
    my enjoyment was soured by it wasn't what I expected. I'd go as far to
    say that I'd have enjoyed it far more if it didn't have the Crysis name.

    Another example is Bioshock 1, I'd seen the gameplay trailers knew about
    System Shock and had even pre-ordered it in a special metal case. After
    a few hours it became clear that yes the setting was interesting but
    really this is just another FPS. Slightly against my better judgement I
    did pick up Bioshock:Infinite (number 3) in a sale. I actually rather
    liked it because my expectations where just it's a FPS. There's nothing
    special in it but you just get to shoot lots of things!

    I loved SS2. BS1 was decent from its playable demo, but it wasn't SS2
    type to me.

    BS1 was ok but I just don't think it in anyway met the hype that came
    with it. I remember seeing the gameplay trailer of how you could set
    traps using the environment and your powers. Alternatively you could
    just shoot them in the face as that was a lot easier.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Nov 22 11:48:36 2022
    On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 10:23:38 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 22/11/2022 00:10, Ant wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    On 21/11/2022 06:10, Ant wrote:
    Ditto. I wonder if I should try Crysis' sequels at all.

    I put Crysis 2 in the category it's not that it's a bad game but instead >>> my enjoyment was soured by it wasn't what I expected. I'd go as far to
    say that I'd have enjoyed it far more if it didn't have the Crysis name.

    Another example is Bioshock 1, I'd seen the gameplay trailers knew about >>> System Shock and had even pre-ordered it in a special metal case. After
    a few hours it became clear that yes the setting was interesting but
    really this is just another FPS. Slightly against my better judgement I
    did pick up Bioshock:Infinite (number 3) in a sale. I actually rather
    liked it because my expectations where just it's a FPS. There's nothing
    special in it but you just get to shoot lots of things!

    I loved SS2. BS1 was decent from its playable demo, but it wasn't SS2
    type to me.

    BS1 was ok but I just don't think it in anyway met the hype that came
    with it. I remember seeing the gameplay trailer of how you could set
    traps using the environment and your powers. Alternatively you could
    just shoot them in the face as that was a lot easier.


    "Bioshock" was always compared to "System Shock", but - aside from its audiologs - I never saw anything but the grossest of similarities
    (e.g., both were FPS games, both set in a ruined sci-fi setting, etc.)
    Stuff that's so common in games that while yes, they were common to
    "Bioshock" and "System Shock", they were also common to dozens -
    hundreds?- of other games too. The comparison to "System Shock" always
    seemed forced, an attempt to connect "Bioshock" to a cult-classic that
    was undeserved.

    Instead, I always got much more of a "Dark Messiah of Might & Magic"
    vibe from the game, especially with regards to its gameplay and its aforementioned traps. Unfortunately, I never really warmed up to "Dark Messiah", and "Bioshock" left me similarly cool. It wasn't a bad game,
    but hardly worthy of all the hype and praise. It's gameplay was
    unexciting, and while some of the artistry of the level design was
    striking, the sheer ludicrosity of an undersea city designed to look
    like a 1930s-era city (and built with similar technology) always kept
    me from fully engaging with the setting.

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