• Yay! I got it working!

    From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 28 11:39:34 2022
    It's the year 1993. I'm at a the check-out at a video-game store,
    paying for my purchases, when I see - besides the register - a game in
    a cardboard sleeve going for some ridiculously low sum. That's usually
    a sign of a not-so-good game, but it's sci-fi, the screenshots don't
    look too bad, and - like I said - it's really cheap.

    (Yes, even back then I was a sucker for any old game so long as it was
    selling for only a few quid).

    I take my new purchase home, install it to my PC, decide I don't like
    it, and shelve the CD after only a few hours of play. The game is
    called "C.H.A.O.S. Continuum" and it's every bit as underwhelming as
    can be expected. It's a Myst-like adventure game for Windows 3.1 and
    it's the sort of game I'd have long forgotten about, except for one
    thing:

    I never manage to get that game to install and play correctly after
    that first time.

    "C.H.A.O.S. Continuum" used an early version of Quicktime and
    Macromedia Director, and this - built atop the already fragile
    platform of MS DOS and Windows 3.1 - meant it was extremely vulnerable
    to compatibility issues. If I got it to install, it sometimes ran...
    but then crashed. Or if it didn't run, the full-motion video wouldn't
    play. Or maybe the sound would be disabled. Or the FMV played but the
    still images were invisible. It was always something with that game,
    and no matter what configuration changes I made, nothing seemed to
    make the game work properly (and often those changes were so drastic
    that I'd sacrifice compatibility with all my other software; hardly
    worth it for a game I didn't even like!). Whatever magic combination
    of hardware and software that allowed the game to run that first time,
    I couldn't recreate it.

    Not that I didn't keep trying. I think that, with every OS revision up
    to Windows7, I popped in the disk and hopefully tried again. It never
    worked (and, honestly, I never really expected it to) but I had to
    try. I'd paid good money for the game; I'd be damned if I didn't get
    value for my buck!

    Emulation initially seemed the solution. I could more easily 'swap'
    between older hardware and software combinations without cluttering up
    the room with dozens of ancient machines. But whether on VMWare and
    VirtualBox or DOSBox, still the game refused to run. Even Archive.org
    hasn't managed it, and they've got pretty much every old DOS/Win3 game available to stream at a moment's notice.

    x86Box - which I discovered only last year - was where I found my
    first success. After much tinkering (a virtualized 486 CPU, 8MB RAM,
    an SB Pro v1.0, running on DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1.103, and Quicktime
    2.12 seemed to do the trick) I finally got "C.H.A.O.S. Continuum" both installed and running past the intro sequence and the first few rooms.
    Still, I wasn't completely satisfied. I wanted a turn-key solution
    that used DOSBox that I could launch with a single-click from Playnite
    with the rest of my DOS games collection. That took longer, and
    ultimately required me to switch to DOSBox-X and boot from a specially
    prepared hard-disk image made solely to run the stupid game. But I
    persevered.

    But finally - FINALLY - after nearly 30 years, I can click on an icon,
    the game will start up, and I can play it as the developers originally intended. FMV video. Sound. No crashes. Hurrah.

    And now I can play the game. So I did. For a few hours. And then I
    quit and shelved the title. Because, even after all this time, it is
    still a terrible game. But the journey to rediscovering this fact made
    it all worth it.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Oct 28 18:25:34 2022
    Ha, you must be very bored. :)


    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    It's the year 1993. I'm at a the check-out at a video-game store,
    paying for my purchases, when I see - besides the register - a game in
    a cardboard sleeve going for some ridiculously low sum. That's usually
    a sign of a not-so-good game, but it's sci-fi, the screenshots don't
    look too bad, and - like I said - it's really cheap.

    (Yes, even back then I was a sucker for any old game so long as it was selling for only a few quid).

    I take my new purchase home, install it to my PC, decide I don't like
    it, and shelve the CD after only a few hours of play. The game is
    called "C.H.A.O.S. Continuum" and it's every bit as underwhelming as
    can be expected. It's a Myst-like adventure game for Windows 3.1 and
    it's the sort of game I'd have long forgotten about, except for one
    thing:

    I never manage to get that game to install and play correctly after
    that first time.

    "C.H.A.O.S. Continuum" used an early version of Quicktime and
    Macromedia Director, and this - built atop the already fragile
    platform of MS DOS and Windows 3.1 - meant it was extremely vulnerable
    to compatibility issues. If I got it to install, it sometimes ran...
    but then crashed. Or if it didn't run, the full-motion video wouldn't
    play. Or maybe the sound would be disabled. Or the FMV played but the
    still images were invisible. It was always something with that game,
    and no matter what configuration changes I made, nothing seemed to
    make the game work properly (and often those changes were so drastic
    that I'd sacrifice compatibility with all my other software; hardly
    worth it for a game I didn't even like!). Whatever magic combination
    of hardware and software that allowed the game to run that first time,
    I couldn't recreate it.

    Not that I didn't keep trying. I think that, with every OS revision up
    to Windows7, I popped in the disk and hopefully tried again. It never
    worked (and, honestly, I never really expected it to) but I had to
    try. I'd paid good money for the game; I'd be damned if I didn't get
    value for my buck!

    Emulation initially seemed the solution. I could more easily 'swap'
    between older hardware and software combinations without cluttering up
    the room with dozens of ancient machines. But whether on VMWare and VirtualBox or DOSBox, still the game refused to run. Even Archive.org
    hasn't managed it, and they've got pretty much every old DOS/Win3 game available to stream at a moment's notice.

    x86Box - which I discovered only last year - was where I found my
    first success. After much tinkering (a virtualized 486 CPU, 8MB RAM,
    an SB Pro v1.0, running on DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1.103, and Quicktime
    2.12 seemed to do the trick) I finally got "C.H.A.O.S. Continuum" both installed and running past the intro sequence and the first few rooms.
    Still, I wasn't completely satisfied. I wanted a turn-key solution
    that used DOSBox that I could launch with a single-click from Playnite
    with the rest of my DOS games collection. That took longer, and
    ultimately required me to switch to DOSBox-X and boot from a specially prepared hard-disk image made solely to run the stupid game. But I persevered.

    But finally - FINALLY - after nearly 30 years, I can click on an icon,
    the game will start up, and I can play it as the developers originally intended. FMV video. Sound. No crashes. Hurrah.

    And now I can play the game. So I did. For a few hours. And then I
    quit and shelved the title. Because, even after all this time, it is
    still a terrible game. But the journey to rediscovering this fact made
    it all worth it.
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to Ant on Sat Oct 29 10:38:49 2022
    On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 18:25:34 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Ha, you must be very bored. :)


    No, I can't say I ever am. ;-)

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