• You may need to sit down for this news....

    From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 30 11:28:28 2022
    Are you sitting down? Because this news is shocking, SHOCKING!, I tell
    you.

    Google has announced* that it is shuttering Stadia, it's video-game
    streaming service.

    Are you okay? Is your heart still beating? 'Cause, I know, right? Who
    would have seen that coming?**

    So, yeah. It's not really a surprise. The writing for Stadia was on
    the wall pretty much since Google killed its game development teams a
    year ago, and since then it's been a matter of "when" and not "if".
    Hyperbolic intro aside, this news is just a confirmation of what
    everybody expected. In fact, predictions of Stadia's imminent demise
    were being suggested even before the service launched and - in fact -
    a primary reason many refused to join the service. Why spend money on
    effort on something Google was only going to abandon two or three
    years down the line?

    Honestly, the biggest surprise is that it actually lasted as long as
    it did; it's been almost three years since Stadia was birthed. That's
    a lifetime for a lot of Google products.

    Still, props to Google in that they are offering full refunds for any
    and all Stadia purchases, whether that is for the games, any
    associated DLC, or hardware. Then again, given how small a footprint
    it made in the gaming market space, I doubt those refunds would be
    more than a rounding error on Google's books.

    I doubt this setback will do anything to slow 'cloud gaming' in the
    long run, though; I think it is inevitable that eventually all but the
    most die-hard gamers will be streaming their games. The advantages
    (and profits!) are just too high for companies to ignore, and
    technology is making the service more viable every day. It's quite
    possible - ten years down the line - that Google will regret having
    shut down a service that might have given then a decades-long lead
    ahead of its competitors.

    But I don't expect Google to learn any lessons from this. The company
    has become extremely short-sighted and unfocused. Outside of its
    advertising and data-collection, it's just not stable company. Its
    mainstays - Search and Mail - are likely safe from cancellation, but
    nothing else is, and customers are becoming increasingly wary of
    investing into a Google ecosystem because of this. That Google killed
    its own video-game development house less than a year after its
    inception - in an era when games take multiple years to create - just
    shows how undependable the company is. Google might have been able to
    fight against this reputation had it stuck to its gun with Stadia, but
    no. It only reinforced the stereotype.

    Good job, Google. I'm sure your next new product will benefit from
    this behavior.

    Well, so long Stadia... I'd say you were too good for this world, but
    that would be a lie. Still, you deserved better than you got from your
    parent company.












    =========================
    *
    https://blog.google/products/stadia/message-on-stadia-streaming-strategy/
    ** https://killedbygoogle.com/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Sep 30 12:43:24 2022
    On 9/30/2022 8:28 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Are you sitting down? Because this news is shocking, SHOCKING!, I tell
    you.

    I'm always sitting when I read Usenet.

    Google has announced* that it is shuttering Stadia, it's video-game
    streaming service.

    Google has a game streaming service?

    Are you okay? Is your heart still beating? 'Cause, I know, right? Who
    would have seen that coming?**

    Since I didn't know (or care) that they had a game streaming service,
    not me!

    So, yeah. It's not really a surprise. The writing for Stadia was on
    the wall pretty much since Google killed its game development teams a
    year ago, and since then it's been a matter of "when" and not "if". Hyperbolic intro aside, this news is just a confirmation of what
    everybody expected. In fact, predictions of Stadia's imminent demise
    were being suggested even before the service launched and - in fact -
    a primary reason many refused to join the service. Why spend money on
    effort on something Google was only going to abandon two or three
    years down the line?

    Honestly, the biggest surprise is that it actually lasted as long as
    it did; it's been almost three years since Stadia was birthed. That's
    a lifetime for a lot of Google products.

    Still, props to Google in that they are offering full refunds for any
    and all Stadia purchases, whether that is for the games, any
    associated DLC, or hardware. Then again, given how small a footprint
    it made in the gaming market space, I doubt those refunds would be
    more than a rounding error on Google's books.

    I doubt this setback will do anything to slow 'cloud gaming' in the
    long run, though;

    Damn.

    I think it is inevitable that eventually all but the
    most die-hard gamers will be streaming their games.

    BOOOO!!!!

    The advantages
    (and profits!) are just too high for companies to ignore, and
    technology is making the service more viable every day. It's quite
    possible - ten years down the line - that Google will regret having
    shut down a service that might have given then a decades-long lead
    ahead of its competitors.

    But I don't expect Google to learn any lessons from this. The company
    has become extremely short-sighted and unfocused. Outside of its
    advertising and data-collection, it's just not stable company. Its
    mainstays - Search and Mail - are likely safe from cancellation, but
    nothing else is, and customers are becoming increasingly wary of
    investing into a Google ecosystem because of this. That Google killed
    its own video-game development house less than a year after its
    inception - in an era when games take multiple years to create - just
    shows how undependable the company is. Google might have been able to
    fight against this reputation had it stuck to its gun with Stadia, but
    no. It only reinforced the stereotype.

    Good job, Google. I'm sure your next new product will benefit from
    this behavior.

    Well, so long Stadia... I'd say you were too good for this world, but
    that would be a lie. Still, you deserved better than you got from your
    parent company.

    Naming it after a Roman unit of measure is probably what doomed it.


    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Fri Sep 30 15:00:11 2022
    On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 12:43:28 PM UTC-7, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 9/30/2022 8:28 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    I think it is inevitable that eventually all but the
    most die-hard gamers will be streaming their games.
    BOOOO!!!!

    I think that includes most of us in the die hard category. But my brief
    trial of Prime's game streaming may have changed my mind. It
    was still a bit laggy in places, but the ability to try a number of games instantly, without downloads, and without depending upon an expensive
    graphics card was pretty convenient and impressive. If they had a
    (very) large set of games you got with your monthly fee to play as
    you will, I could see doing that, or with another service that does.

    Apparently Netflix is getting into game streaming too, though I
    haven't looked much into it.

    - Justisaur

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Fri Sep 30 16:22:27 2022
    On 9/30/2022 3:00 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 12:43:28 PM UTC-7, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 9/30/2022 8:28 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    I think it is inevitable that eventually all but the
    most die-hard gamers will be streaming their games.
    BOOOO!!!!

    I think that includes most of us in the die hard category. But my brief trial of Prime's game streaming may have changed my mind. It
    was still a bit laggy in places, but the ability to try a number of games instantly, without downloads, and without depending upon an expensive graphics card was pretty convenient and impressive. If they had a
    (very) large set of games you got with your monthly fee to play as
    you will, I could see doing that, or with another service that does.

    Apparently Netflix is getting into game streaming too, though I
    haven't looked much into it.

    Game streaming may be very nice if your ISP provides you with a
    fiber-optic connection but since I'm in the US and it is basically
    impossible to get a fiber-optic line to one's home in the US because the telecom companies refuse to spend the money I don't see it working for me.


    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From PW@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Fri Sep 30 21:31:19 2022
    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 16:22:27 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 9/30/2022 3:00 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 12:43:28 PM UTC-7, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 9/30/2022 8:28 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    I think it is inevitable that eventually all but the
    most die-hard gamers will be streaming their games.
    BOOOO!!!!

    I think that includes most of us in the die hard category. But my brief
    trial of Prime's game streaming may have changed my mind. It
    was still a bit laggy in places, but the ability to try a number of games
    instantly, without downloads, and without depending upon an expensive
    graphics card was pretty convenient and impressive. If they had a
    (very) large set of games you got with your monthly fee to play as
    you will, I could see doing that, or with another service that does.

    Apparently Netflix is getting into game streaming too, though I
    haven't looked much into it.

    Game streaming may be very nice if your ISP provides you with a
    fiber-optic connection but since I'm in the US and it is basically
    impossible to get a fiber-optic line to one's home in the US because the >telecom companies refuse to spend the money I don't see it working for me. *---

    Agreed!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Oct 1 10:44:48 2022
    On 30/09/2022 16:28, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Are you sitting down? Because this news is shocking, SHOCKING!, I tell
    you.

    Google has announced* that it is shuttering Stadia, it's video-game
    streaming service.

    Are you okay? Is your heart still beating? 'Cause, I know, right? Who
    would have seen that coming?**

    So, yeah. It's not really a surprise. The writing for Stadia was on
    the wall pretty much since Google killed its game development teams a
    year ago, and since then it's been a matter of "when" and not "if". Hyperbolic intro aside, this news is just a confirmation of what
    everybody expected. In fact, predictions of Stadia's imminent demise
    were being suggested even before the service launched and - in fact -
    a primary reason many refused to join the service. Why spend money on
    effort on something Google was only going to abandon two or three
    years down the line?

    Honestly, the biggest surprise is that it actually lasted as long as
    it did; it's been almost three years since Stadia was birthed. That's
    a lifetime for a lot of Google products.

    Still, props to Google in that they are offering full refunds for any
    and all Stadia purchases, whether that is for the games, any
    associated DLC, or hardware. Then again, given how small a footprint
    it made in the gaming market space, I doubt those refunds would be
    more than a rounding error on Google's books.

    I doubt this setback will do anything to slow 'cloud gaming' in the
    long run, though; I think it is inevitable that eventually all but the
    most die-hard gamers will be streaming their games. The advantages
    (and profits!) are just too high for companies to ignore, and
    technology is making the service more viable every day. It's quite
    possible - ten years down the line - that Google will regret having
    shut down a service that might have given then a decades-long lead
    ahead of its competitors.

    But I don't expect Google to learn any lessons from this. The company
    has become extremely short-sighted and unfocused. Outside of its
    advertising and data-collection, it's just not stable company. Its
    mainstays - Search and Mail - are likely safe from cancellation, but
    nothing else is, and customers are becoming increasingly wary of
    investing into a Google ecosystem because of this. That Google killed
    its own video-game development house less than a year after its
    inception - in an era when games take multiple years to create - just
    shows how undependable the company is. Google might have been able to
    fight against this reputation had it stuck to its gun with Stadia, but
    no. It only reinforced the stereotype.

    Good job, Google. I'm sure your next new product will benefit from
    this behavior.

    Well, so long Stadia... I'd say you were too good for this world, but
    that would be a lie. Still, you deserved better than you got from your
    parent company.


    I do remember the reviews when it first came out and they ranged from
    not very good to don't touch this with a barge pole.

    I did look at it and the only conclusion I came to was why would I pay
    money for that even compared to other streaming services. Google just
    didn't seem to have the technology or the marketing right. One thing I
    will say is at least they have refunded all the money.

    The future of streaming services for games, really not sure whether it's
    going to slowly carry on and die (who remembers when 3d TV was the next
    big thing) or someone will get the right package with the right
    technology that pushes it into the mainstream.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Sat Oct 1 23:43:23 2022
    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 12:43:24 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 9/30/2022 8:28 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Google has announced* that it is shuttering Stadia, it's video-game
    streaming service.

    Google has a game streaming service?
    Since I didn't know (or care) that they had a game streaming service,
    not me!

    Side note: this isn't true since you've responded to several posts on
    the topic in the past. ;-)

    Naming it after a Roman unit of measure is probably what doomed it.

    This, on the other hand, seems a completely plausible scenario to me.
    ;-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Oct 1 21:55:25 2022
    On 10/1/2022 8:43 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 12:43:24 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 9/30/2022 8:28 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Google has announced* that it is shuttering Stadia, it's video-game
    streaming service.

    Google has a game streaming service?
    Since I didn't know (or care) that they had a game streaming service,
    not me!

    Side note: this isn't true since you've responded to several posts on
    the topic in the past. ;-)

    I have no memory of that.

    Naming it after a Roman unit of measure is probably what doomed it.

    This, on the other hand, seems a completely plausible scenario to me.
    ;-)

    The corollary being that they must have decimated their games.


    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sun Oct 2 11:22:32 2022
    On 02/10/2022 05:55, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    Side note: this isn't true since you've responded to several posts on
    the topic in the past. 😉

    I have no memory of that.

    Did you not know the Spalls keeps a dossier on all posters here.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Oct 2 08:11:26 2022
    On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 11:22:32 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    Did you not know the Spalls keeps a dossier on all posters here.

    I've told Spalls before he has a good memory. He does not need
    dossiers, he keeps it all in his head.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 2 11:05:19 2022
    On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 08:11:26 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:
    On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 11:22:32 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    Did you not know the Spalls keeps a dossier on all posters here.

    I've told Spalls before he has a good memory. He does not need
    dossiers, he keeps it all in his head.

    It's even more impressive than that! Not only do I have memories of
    all the things that happened in my head, I have memories of a lot of
    things that never happened in my head!

    Or (shhh, don't tell anyone!) I just scrolled back the list of posts
    in my newsreader and read what he said in a message from a couple
    months ago. I'd explain how, but it's all very technical and
    top-secret ;-)

    Anyway, it was all meant very tongue-in-cheek and without malice. I
    mean, DT said he didn't know what Stadia was, and that seemed unlikely
    given how much I had brought it up. After all, everyone reads each and
    everyone of my posts, thoroughly and completely, right? RIGHT?!? ;-)

    So that comment triggered my curiosity and - whether it was through my superhuman memory or with top-secret "scrolling" technology - I went
    back and discovered the flaw in DT's argument. After all, I'd never
    use the information in those dossiers for anything so frivolous.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Oct 2 08:32:49 2022
    On 10/2/2022 3:22 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 02/10/2022 05:55, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    Side note: this isn't true since you've responded to several posts on
    the topic in the past. 😉

    I have no memory of that.

    Did you not know the Spalls keeps a dossier on all posters here.

    I have to do the same as part of my work.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)