Code for GOG on our Steam group for anyone who wants it.

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Code for GOG on our Steam group for anyone who wants it.

That is https://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSPIGA !

rms

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On Sat, 10 Sep 2022 15:11:25 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

Code for GOG on our Steam group for anyone who wants it.

That is https://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSPIGA !

Alternately, https://steamcommunity.com/groups/csipga !

but the first one is better. Why is it better? Because:

1) it came first
2) it has a super-cool awesome logo created by... erm... I forget, but
it wasn't me and it's super-cool and awesome so thank you who ever it
was that made it
3) that's the one I'm on ...and I can't figure out how to join the
second one ;-P
4) rms (and others) use it to give away games

Why is the other one better? Well... they do have the benefit of being
csipga and not cspiga... but who cares about details like proper
spelling that when we have a logo? ;-)

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On 9/10/2022 5:13 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2022 15:11:25 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

Code for GOG on our Steam group for anyone who wants it.

That is https://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSPIGA !

Alternately, https://steamcommunity.com/groups/csipga !

but the first one is better. Why is it better? Because:

1) it came first
2) it has a super-cool awesome logo created by... erm... I forget, but
it wasn't me and it's super-cool and awesome so thank you who ever it
was that made it
3) that's the one I'm on ...and I can't figure out how to join the
second one ;-P
4) rms (and others) use it to give away games

Why is the other one better? Well... they do have the benefit of being
csipga and not cspiga... but who cares about details like proper
spelling that when we have a logo? ;-)

Plus yours includes the word "pig" in it.



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JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

Code for GOG on our Steam group for anyone who wants it.

Thanks. ;)
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2022 15:11:25 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

Code for GOG on our Steam group for anyone who wants it.

That is https://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSPIGA !

rms

*---

Well, the name of that Steam group is absolutely no where near the
name that people here have been telling me it is for the last year or
so!!

Any way, I have it already. Should I install it and try it?

-pw

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On 11/09/2022 03:33, Ant wrote:

JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

Code for GOG on our Steam group for anyone who wants it.

Thanks. ;)

Hope you enjoy it. I did think about using it but ARPG's aren't really
my thing so I thought why not let someone else have it.

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On Sun, 11 Sep 2022 11:09:16 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

On 11/09/2022 03:33, Ant wrote:

JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

Code for GOG on our Steam group for anyone who wants it.

Thanks. ;)

Hope you enjoy it. I did think about using it but ARPG's aren't really
my thing so I thought why not let someone else have it.

I don't know if I'd classify ME:SoM as an action-RPG. I tend to use
that genre for games more along the like of "Diablo" and "Titan
Quest".

I mean, I get where you're coming from; it's an action game and
there's XP and leveling... but that describes almost every action game
these days. If we accept that's all that's necessary to earn the
action-RPG label then we dilute that genre to the point where it's
meaningless.

(It's said that - if they go on long enough - all discussions and
arguments eventually end up being about semantics and definitions,
often to the point where the actual reason for the conversation is
lost. I'm just speeding up the process here ;-)

I'm not sure what genre I'd slot ME:SoM into. Maybe just a generic 'action/third-person', which is where I tend to slot games as varied
as "Uncharted", "Tomb Raider", "Soul Reaver" and "Severance". But I
tend to associate action-RPG as (usually-but-not-always) being
top-down, (usually-but-not-always) having some sort of procedural
generation involved, and - most importantly -being far more focused on
loot collection. But YMMV.

Anyway, I can agree at least on skipping it. As much as I wanted to
enjoy the game, I found it impossible to engage with its mechanics.
Despite its pedigreed setting, the world felt artificial and shallow.
The gameplay loop was very repetitive too

(I mean, a loop should be repetitive, I guess, but this one seemed a
bit too repetitive? Perhaps it was a lack of variety.)

and I didn't find the combat particularly interesting. I know the game
was generally well regarded so my opinion is an outlier, but I just
didn't enjoy my time in Mordor that much.

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On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 7:07:01 PM UTC-7, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 9/10/2022 5:13 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2022 15:11:25 -0600, "rms"
<rsqui...@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

Code for GOG on our Steam group for anyone who wants it.

That is https://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSPIGA !

Alternately, https://steamcommunity.com/groups/csipga !

but the first one is better. Why is it better? Because:

1) it came first
2) it has a super-cool awesome logo created by... erm... I forget, but
it wasn't me and it's super-cool and awesome so thank you who ever it
was that made it
3) that's the one I'm on ...and I can't figure out how to join the
second one ;-P
4) rms (and others) use it to give away games

Why is the other one better? Well... they do have the benefit of being csipga and not cspiga... but who cares about details like proper
spelling that when we have a logo? ;-)

Plus yours includes the word "pig" in it.

Computer Science Pig-A

vs.

Crime Scene Investigation (of the) Professional Golf Association

Oh wait, It's

Computer System(s?): International business machines: Personal Computers: Games: Action

- Justisaur

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On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 9:27:14 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2022 11:09:16 +0100, JAB <no...@nochance.com> wrote:

On 11/09/2022 03:33, Ant wrote:

JAB <no...@nochance.com> wrote:

Code for GOG on our Steam group for anyone who wants it.

Thanks. ;)

Hope you enjoy it. I did think about using it but ARPG's aren't really
my thing so I thought why not let someone else have it.

I don't know if I'd classify ME:SoM as an action-RPG. I tend to use
that genre for games more along the like of "Diablo" and "Titan
Quest".

I mean, I get where you're coming from; it's an action game and
there's XP and leveling... but that describes almost every action game
these days. If we accept that's all that's necessary to earn the
action-RPG label then we dilute that genre to the point where it's meaningless.

(It's said that - if they go on long enough - all discussions and
arguments eventually end up being about semantics and definitions,
often to the point where the actual reason for the conversation is
lost. I'm just speeding up the process here ;-)

I'm not sure what genre I'd slot ME:SoM into. Maybe just a generic 'action/third-person', which is where I tend to slot games as varied
as "Uncharted", "Tomb Raider", "Soul Reaver" and "Severance". But I
tend to associate action-RPG as (usually-but-not-always) being
top-down, (usually-but-not-always) having some sort of procedural
generation involved, and - most importantly -being far more focused on
loot collection. But YMMV.

Anyway, I can agree at least on skipping it. As much as I wanted to
enjoy the game, I found it impossible to engage with its mechanics.
Despite its pedigreed setting, the world felt artificial and shallow.
The gameplay loop was very repetitive too

(I mean, a loop should be repetitive, I guess, but this one seemed a
bit too repetitive? Perhaps it was a lack of variety.)

and I didn't find the combat particularly interesting. I know the game
was generally well regarded so my opinion is an outlier, but I just
didn't enjoy my time in Mordor that much.

It's a good game, probably has some improvements from the first.
But I finished the first, didn't the second. If you haven't played the
first it's probably better. Not finishing the second could be chalked
up to any number of things, I'm older and less patient with games,
or it could be just too much like the first, or it could just be too repetitive. There's an online fight other people's armies thing too,
but that didn't interest me, so never tried it.

- justisaur

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On 11/09/2022 17:27, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2022 11:09:16 +0100, JAB<noway@nochance.com> wrote:

On 11/09/2022 03:33, Ant wrote:

JAB<noway@nochance.com> wrote:

Code for GOG on our Steam group for anyone who wants it.

Thanks. 😉

Hope you enjoy it. I did think about using it but ARPG's aren't really
my thing so I thought why not let someone else have it.

I don't know if I'd classify ME:SoM as an action-RPG. I tend to use
that genre for games more along the like of "Diablo" and "Titan
Quest".

I mean, I get where you're coming from; it's an action game and
there's XP and leveling... but that describes almost every action game
these days. If we accept that's all that's necessary to earn the
action-RPG label then we dilute that genre to the point where it's meaningless.

Without tryiny to open this can-of-worms again I tend to think about it
as ARPG's are games where combat is dominant vs. CRPG's are games where
story is dominant*.

Obviously there's cross over between the two but generally games that
get tagged with ARPG on Steam aren't ones that interest me.

*As always there's nothing wrong with either of them.

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On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 09:16:39 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

Without tryiny to open this can-of-worms again I tend to think about it
as ARPG's are games where combat is dominant vs. CRPG's are games where
story is dominant*.

ARPG used to mean games like Diablo and only games like Diablo. Now
they include other types of RPGs but yes, for ARPGs, combat is what
matters.

I decided to call Diablo type games hack and slashers awhile back.

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On 12/09/2022 14:00, Mike S. wrote:

On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 09:16:39 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

Without tryiny to open this can-of-worms again I tend to think about it
as ARPG's are games where combat is dominant vs. CRPG's are games where
story is dominant*.

ARPG used to mean games like Diablo and only games like Diablo. Now
they include other types of RPGs but yes, for ARPGs, combat is what
matters.

I decided to call Diablo type games hack and slashers awhile back.

It's a sign of getting old I think, terms you've used for many years
somehow morph into have a different meaning. Troll is a good example,
now it's used for people who are just obnoxious or even dare to disagree
with someone's personal opinion.

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On Tue, 13 Sep 2022 10:25:34 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

It's a sign of getting old I think, terms you've used for many years
somehow morph into have a different meaning. Troll is a good example,
now it's used for people who are just obnoxious or even dare to disagree
with someone's personal opinion.

That's because all the real trolls have gone professional and taken on
job titles like "television political commentator", leaving the field
open for unskilled maggots with delusions of grandeur ;-)

But I won't fall into their trap. If you burst into a conversation
with a 'witticism' no more sophisticated than 'you got a tiny penis,
hurr hurr hurr' then I won't deign to apply the noble rank of troll
upon you. You're a noisome irritant; a fool, an ass, a gnat, something
barely worth noticing, much less responding to.

(And in fact, I won't even do that much, I'll just quietly add you to
my killfile and never see any of your comments again ;-)

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On 13/09/2022 16:26, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2022 10:25:34 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

It's a sign of getting old I think, terms you've used for many years
somehow morph into have a different meaning. Troll is a good example,
now it's used for people who are just obnoxious or even dare to disagree
with someone's personal opinion.

That's because all the real trolls have gone professional and taken on
job titles like "television political commentator", leaving the field
open for unskilled maggots with delusions of grandeur ;-)

We do have a few in the UK (mostly employed by Gammon Brexit News) but
no where near as bad as a certain country across the pond where I get
the impression that they are breeding.

But I won't fall into their trap. If you burst into a conversation
with a 'witticism' no more sophisticated than 'you got a tiny penis,
hurr hurr hurr' then I won't deign to apply the noble rank of troll
upon you. You're a noisome irritant; a fool, an ass, a gnat, something
barely worth noticing, much less responding to.

(And in fact, I won't even do that much, I'll just quietly add you to
my killfile and never see any of your comments again ;-)

I still haven't put the troll who pops up occasional into /dev/null
purely on the grounds that they are just amusing bad and pretty much
ever post has the same D- style.

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