• Prime Gaming 'free' titles: AC Origins among others!

    From rms@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 1 16:45:07 2022
    More stuff included with your Prime subscription!
    We the Revolution
    The Dig
    Defend the Rook
    AC Origins
    Football Manager 2022

    Again, I had to go to the 'crown' menu in www.twitch.tv to see ACOrigins & FM2022, so check there

    rms

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 1 22:00:39 2022
    On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:45:07 -0600, "rms" <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net>
    wrote:

    More stuff included with your Prime subscription!
    We the Revolution
    The Dig
    Defend the Rook
    AC Origins
    Football Manager 2022

    Again, I had to go to the 'crown' menu in www.twitch.tv to see ACOrigins & >FM2022, so check there

    rms

    *--

    I don't know much about soccer except it was forced onto us American
    kids over 50 years ago when I was one. Still going on I think.

    But I would like to learn more about it. The Football Manager series
    seems to get good reviews.

    -pw

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 2 10:49:14 2022
    On 02/09/2022 05:00, PW wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:45:07 -0600, "rms" <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net>
    wrote:

    More stuff included with your Prime subscription!
    We the Revolution
    The Dig
    Defend the Rook
    AC Origins
    Football Manager 2022

    Again, I had to go to the 'crown' menu in www.twitch.tv to see ACOrigins & >> FM2022, so check there

    rms

    *--

    I don't know much about soccer except it was forced onto us American
    kids over 50 years ago when I was one. Still going on I think.


    They were doing you a favour :-)

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Sep 2 08:21:32 2022
    On 9/2/2022 2:49 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 02/09/2022 05:00, PW wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:45:07 -0600, "rms" <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net>
    wrote:

    More stuff included with your Prime subscription!
    We the Revolution
    The Dig
    Defend the Rook
    AC Origins
    Football Manager 2022

    Again, I had to go to the 'crown' menu in www.twitch.tv to see
    ACOrigins &
    FM2022, so check there

    rms

    *--

    I don't know much about soccer except it was forced onto us American
    kids over 50 years ago when I was one.  Still going on I think.


    They were doing you a favour :-)


    :D

    Sci-fi author John Ringo on the differences between American football
    and soccer.

    "In football, there are constant pauses where both sides reconsolidate.
    The leader, dealing with advisors out of the battle frenzy, determines
    the moves for the next assault while casualties are removed and resupply (WATERBOY!) is managed without interfering with the planning. Once the
    plan is established, it is sent to all the lower units who move into
    position and on H Hour begin the assault. There is an objective, but the objective is rarely reached, rather the assault brings the forces
    forward a bit farther and another assault is planned. During the
    assault, each unit has a stated objective and often secondary objectives
    with precise plans on how to achieve them. That being said, sometimes,
    often, in the midst of the assault, the plans tend to go awry and units
    have to act in an aggressive, intelligent and pro-active manner to
    ensure its success. Most of plans are not designed to take the main
    objective, but to prevent the enemy from reacting to the main assault.

    Occasionally broad, deceptive stratagems are enacted and are very
    successful. But in general the best technique is a slow ground pound
    towards the enemy headquarters. This may be more brutal, but it's also
    the best way to avoid major defeats. Occasional airmobile raids and
    assaults into the enemy backfield are appropriate and can enact major
    gains. They also can enact major defeats, so choose wisely. And,
    eventually, you take the enemy's headquarters and, nine times out of
    ten, they counterattack. The bastards.

    In the meantime the defenders are making their plans. They aren't as
    fixed as the assault group, because they don't know exactly what the
    assault will turn out to be. So, by and large, they put their heavy
    forces to the fore with light, fast forces to the rear in case the enemy
    stages a breakout. They would like to stop the enemy cold or even
    counterattack and push them back. But their main focus is simply to
    break up the attack and channel it to ineffectiveness. Occasionally they
    base their strategy on a plan of counter-attack during the assault. It's
    risky, it risks that their intermediate weight "anti-breakout" units are
    tied up in the counter-attack. But when successful it's devastating.

    In soccer there is a continuous fluidity. The objective changes from
    moment to moment and no one can give clear orders because the situation
    changes too rapidly. There are, at best, weak and limited plans with
    exception of occasional brilliant coordination by a few minor units. The
    best most leaders can do is give general directions and hope for the
    best. Although there is a target, it is rarely achieved. There is no
    logistical resupply except removing units and replacing them with
    sub-par ones. It depends upon the fleet movement of light fast units. If
    you kick them in the shins they tend to fall on the ground writhing in
    agony.

    Football is how Americans fight wars. Soccer is how the French do it.

    I know which one I'd choose."


    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 2 12:03:43 2022
    On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:45:07 -0600, "rms" <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net>
    wrote:

    More stuff included with your Prime subscription!
    We the Revolution
    The Dig
    Defend the Rook
    AC Origins
    Football Manager 2022

    Again, I had to go to the 'crown' menu in www.twitch.tv to see ACOrigins & >FM2022, so check there

    The 'missing games' also show up if you use the website interface (https://gaming.amazon.com) instead of the Amazon Games client, so if
    you'd prefer to click 'add-to-library' for all the games at once
    rather than juggling between two clients, that's the way to do it.

    (Personally, I don't mind the two clients thing but Twitch's 'crown'
    menu always feels so messy and finicky that I tend to use the website)

    The discrepancy is likely because Amazon hasn't added support for
    logging into third-party clients (Origin/UPlay/etc.), and without that
    they can't access your third-party account to add the non-Amazon games
    (Twitch already had that support built-in when Amazon bought the
    company). Presumably this is because they want to get people to visit
    the website to see adverts, or somethin'.

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 2 12:20:55 2022
    The 'missing games' also show up if you use the website interface >(https://gaming.amazon.com) instead of the Amazon Games client

    Nice, thanks. shadow of mordor also free there!

    rms

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Sep 2 20:31:29 2022
    On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 10:49:14 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 02/09/2022 05:00, PW wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:45:07 -0600, "rms" <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net>
    wrote:

    More stuff included with your Prime subscription!
    We the Revolution
    The Dig
    Defend the Rook
    AC Origins
    Football Manager 2022

    Again, I had to go to the 'crown' menu in www.twitch.tv to see ACOrigins & >>> FM2022, so check there

    rms

    *--

    I don't know much about soccer except it was forced onto us American
    kids over 50 years ago when I was one. Still going on I think.


    They were doing you a favour :-)


    *--

    More like brainwashing!

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Sep 3 06:27:57 2022
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 9:03:57 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:45:07 -0600, "rms" <rsqui...@MOOflashMOO.net>
    wrote:
    More stuff included with your Prime subscription!
    We the Revolution
    The Dig
    Defend the Rook
    AC Origins
    Football Manager 2022

    Again, I had to go to the 'crown' menu in www.twitch.tv to see ACOrigins & >FM2022, so check there
    The 'missing games' also show up if you use the website interface (https://gaming.amazon.com) instead of the Amazon Games client, so if
    you'd prefer to click 'add-to-library' for all the games at once
    rather than juggling between two clients, that's the way to do it.

    (Personally, I don't mind the two clients thing but Twitch's 'crown'
    menu always feels so messy and finicky that I tend to use the website)

    The discrepancy is likely because Amazon hasn't added support for
    logging into third-party clients (Origin/UPlay/etc.), and without that
    they can't access your third-party account to add the non-Amazon games (Twitch already had that support built-in when Amazon bought the
    company). Presumably this is because they want to get people to visit
    the website to see adverts, or somethin'.

    Your link gives me a dangerous popup blocked, which is weird.

    I have my own saved anyway, maybe it's the missing /home?

    https://gaming.amazon.com/home

    You can click 'games' at the top and that way you don't have to see
    all the micro-transaction games' free bling, which is most of what they have.

    A great selection of games this month, I had been on the fence about buying AC:O after the free weekend, now I don't have to! Shadow of Mordor is good,
    I just wasn't into it, and I had that already thanks to your givaway :)

    There's a number of games that look interesting on 'Luna' cloud gaming too, maybe I'll give that a try now.

    Hot Wheels Unleashed (wanted to try this)
    Everspace (love this game)
    Earthworm Jim (been a long time, I assume this is newer? liked the game
    I played)

    And a bunch of others I'm not familiar with that look interesting.

    Oh, looking through the terms of service, it's US only though currently, I know a lot of us aren't in the US, but I am so I'll give it a try.

    - Justisaur

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Sat Sep 3 08:38:55 2022
    On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 6:27:58 AM UTC-7, Justisaur wrote:

    There's a number of games that look interesting on 'Luna' cloud gaming too, maybe I'll give that a try now.


    Luna is free with prime if that wasn't clear, though there are games in it that cost
    extra.

    I gave a couple a try. No setup or long downloads so it was quick to get in and try the games, which makes it much easier to jump right in and play.

    There was a few hiccups and the screen flashing 'network issue detected' occasionally. I never find any issues when I do normal network checks. I had the
    issue with the nvidia one it wouldn't even let me run the games because
    of finding 'network issues.'

    Hot Wheels Unleashed (wanted to try this)

    Eh, 'blind boxes' for cars, very slow progress, the cars I started with and unlocked
    aren't interesting, I don't like racing games where you drift to build nitro, it feels
    like a mobile game. Glad I never bought this when I was thinking about it, and someone here posted it wasn't good.

    The next one I played was "Riptide GP Renegade" It's a futuristic jetski racing
    and stunt game. You do tricks when jumping on sliding for nitro. At least this one
    is a bit different with the jetski physics, I can see playing this a bit. The graphics
    are low polygon, while that doesn't bother me, I know it will bother others, so I
    mention it.

    Everspace (love this game)
    Earthworm Jim (been a long time, I assume this is newer? liked the game
    I played)

    That is the old one from 1995. I didn't play it though.

    - Justisaur

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to justisaur@gmail.com on Sat Sep 3 11:54:48 2022
    On Sat, 3 Sep 2022 06:27:57 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
    <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:


    You can click 'games' at the top and that way you don't have to see
    all the micro-transaction games' free bling, which is most of what they have.

    It amuses me that everyone in this newsgroup ignores all that free
    crap. Even when it shows up in Epic's weekly freebies, nobody ever
    lists them. Free hats? Who cares! ;-)


    A great selection of games this month, I had been on the fence about buying >AC:O after the free weekend, now I don't have to! Shadow of Mordor is good, >I just wasn't into it, and I had that already thanks to your givaway :)

    I've mixed feelings about "AC:Origins". On the one hand, it was
    Ubisoft trying to break away from the 'same-as-all-its-other-games'
    problem that have constantly plagued its open-world experiences. On
    the other hand, it doubled down on the grind with its vastly oversized
    open world, and the annoying leveling mechanics it used to lock off
    parts of the map until you gained enough experience.

    That sort of thing works when you have a huge variety of monsters
    (giant rats for the newbies, orcs for mid-tier PCs, dragons for the
    end-game) but I find it annoying when the foes you face off against
    remain the same throughout the game /except/ for their level.
    /ESPECIALLY/ when the foes are nominally 'ordinary' creatures and
    humans. If I sneak behind some dude and stab him in the back, the
    effect should be the same regardless if the difference between our
    levels is positive or negative.


    I find the new method far more immersion-breaking than the franchise's
    older "you can't go here because your avatar doesn't have any memory
    of doing that" invisible walls.

    Oh, looking through the terms of service, it's US only though currently, I know
    a lot of us aren't in the US, but I am so I'll give it a try.

    Not that there aren't ways around such things ;-)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 4 11:15:23 2022
    On 03/09/2022 03:31, PW wrote:
    On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 10:49:14 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    On 02/09/2022 05:00, PW wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:45:07 -0600, "rms" <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net>
    wrote:

    More stuff included with your Prime subscription!
    We the Revolution
    The Dig
    Defend the Rook
    AC Origins
    Football Manager 2022

    Again, I had to go to the 'crown' menu in www.twitch.tv to see ACOrigins & >>>> FM2022, so check there

    rms

    *--

    I don't know much about soccer except it was forced onto us American
    kids over 50 years ago when I was one. Still going on I think.


    They were doing you a favour :-)


    *--

    More like brainwashing!

    Trying to get football 'off the ground' in the US has been going on as
    long as I can remember although my understanding is that it's had
    limited, but some, success*. Saying that, it's more successful than when
    it's been tried the other way around with introducing American football
    to Europe.

    They've even tried playing some games at the UK's national football
    stadium. Getting a crowd of 90,000 sounds impressive until you think
    that's one game a year and the catchment area is Europe.

    *The MLS or as we like to call it the graveyard for footballers who are
    well past their prime but want one last paycheck!

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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Sun Sep 4 18:37:23 2022
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    Sci-fi author John Ringo on the differences between American football
    and soccer.

    ...

    Occasionally broad, deceptive stratagems are enacted and are very
    successful. But in general the best technique is a slow ground pound
    towards the enemy headquarters. This may be more brutal, but it's also
    the best way to avoid major defeats. Occasional airmobile raids and
    assaults into the enemy backfield are appropriate and can enact major
    gains. [...]

    I was thinking John Ringo must be really old, because that hasn't
    been true in American football in a long time, at least not at the
    professional level. The last year the NFL as a league ran on more plays
    than passed was 1983. You have to go way back to the league's earliest
    days in 30's and 40's for passing to be considered only something teams
    did "occasionally".

    --
    l/ // Ross Ridge -- The Great HTMU
    [oo][oo] rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
    -()-/()/ http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca:11068/
    db //

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Sun Sep 4 11:48:01 2022
    On 9/4/2022 11:37 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    Sci-fi author John Ringo on the differences between American football
    and soccer.

    ...

    Occasionally broad, deceptive stratagems are enacted and are very
    successful. But in general the best technique is a slow ground pound
    towards the enemy headquarters. This may be more brutal, but it's also
    the best way to avoid major defeats. Occasional airmobile raids and
    assaults into the enemy backfield are appropriate and can enact major
    gains. [...]

    I was thinking John Ringo must be really old, because that hasn't
    been true in American football in a long time, at least not at the professional level. The last year the NFL as a league ran on more plays
    than passed was 1983. You have to go way back to the league's earliest
    days in 30's and 40's for passing to be considered only something teams
    did "occasionally".

    The quote is from a few years ago, maybe American airmobile forces have improved since then. :P

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sun Sep 4 21:01:32 2022
    On 02/09/2022 16:21, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 9/2/2022 2:49 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 02/09/2022 05:00, PW wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:45:07 -0600, "rms" <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net>
    wrote:

    More stuff included with your Prime subscription!
    We the Revolution
    The Dig
    Defend the Rook
    AC Origins
    Football Manager 2022

    Again, I had to go to the 'crown' menu in www.twitch.tv to see
    ACOrigins &
    FM2022, so check there

    rms

    *--

    I don't know much about soccer except it was forced onto us American
    kids over 50 years ago when I was one.  Still going on I think.


    They were doing you a favour :-)


    :D

    Sci-fi author John Ringo on the differences between American football
    and soccer.

    "In football, there are constant pauses where both sides reconsolidate.
    The leader, dealing with advisors out of the battle frenzy, determines
    the moves for the next assault while casualties are removed and resupply (WATERBOY!) is managed without interfering with the planning. Once the
    plan is established, it is sent to all the lower units who move into
    position and on H Hour begin the assault. There is an objective, but the objective is rarely reached, rather the assault brings the forces
    forward a bit farther and another assault is planned. During the
    assault, each unit has a stated objective and often secondary objectives
    with precise plans on how to achieve them. That being said, sometimes,
    often, in the midst of the assault, the plans tend to go awry and units
    have to act in an aggressive, intelligent and pro-active manner to
    ensure its success. Most of plans are not designed to take the main objective, but to prevent the enemy from reacting to the main assault.

    Occasionally broad, deceptive stratagems are enacted and are very
    successful. But in general the best technique is a slow ground pound
    towards the enemy headquarters. This may be more brutal, but it's also
    the best way to avoid major defeats. Occasional airmobile raids and
    assaults into the enemy backfield are appropriate and can enact major
    gains. They also can enact major defeats, so choose wisely. And,
    eventually, you take the enemy's headquarters and, nine times out of
    ten, they counterattack. The bastards.

    In the meantime the defenders are making their plans. They aren't as
    fixed as the assault group, because they don't know exactly what the
    assault will turn out to be. So, by and large, they put their heavy
    forces to the fore with light, fast forces to the rear in case the enemy stages a breakout. They would like to stop the enemy cold or even counterattack and push them back. But their main focus is simply to
    break up the attack and channel it to ineffectiveness. Occasionally they
    base their strategy on a plan of counter-attack during the assault. It's risky, it risks that their intermediate weight "anti-breakout" units are
    tied up in the counter-attack. But when successful it's devastating.

    In soccer there is a continuous fluidity. The objective changes from
    moment to moment and no one can give clear orders because the situation changes too rapidly. There are, at best, weak and limited plans with exception of occasional brilliant coordination by a few minor units. The
    best most leaders can do is give general directions and hope for the
    best. Although there is a target, it is rarely achieved. There is no logistical resupply except removing units and replacing them with
    sub-par ones. It depends upon the fleet movement of light fast units. If
    you kick them in the shins they tend to fall on the ground writhing in
    agony.

    Football is how Americans fight wars. Soccer is how the French do it.

    I know which one I'd choose."


    One would hope his books are better than his knowledge of football or
    military history.

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