• Game Censorship and China

    From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 29 13:08:07 2022
    Something I just found out about but when I did it was an "Of course
    they do!" moment.

    All computer and video games sold in China have to include built in
    censors to prevent players from using offensive words or phrases when
    they name characters or other things in the game. And apparently the translation database used by the government for translating forbidden
    character strings from Chinese to other languages has issues. So things
    like naming something after a German company doesn't work because many
    such companies name's end with 'B' and that triggers the software censor.

    Given the pressure such measures have imposed on getting non-Chinese
    movies allowed in China and the way movie studios edit their world-wide releases as a result, I can only imagine who much of an impact that has
    on video and computer games around the world.

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    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Idaho Homo Joe@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 30 16:16:14 2022
    Perhaps it would help if you traveled to China
    and licked a Chinese schoolgirl's asshole?

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Sun Jul 31 14:40:28 2022
    On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 13:08:07 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Something I just found out about but when I did it was an "Of course
    they do!" moment.

    All computer and video games sold in China have to include built in
    censors to prevent players from using offensive words or phrases when
    they name characters or other things in the game. And apparently the >translation database used by the government for translating forbidden >character strings from Chinese to other languages has issues. So things
    like naming something after a German company doesn't work because many
    such companies name's end with 'B' and that triggers the software censor.

    Given the pressure such measures have imposed on getting non-Chinese
    movies allowed in China and the way movie studios edit their world-wide >releases as a result, I can only imagine who much of an impact that has
    on video and computer games around the world.

    In the early 2000s, when oh-so-many tech companies were - after
    rushing into China - were starting to bump into these sorts of
    restrictions, the common argument was it ws better for the
    corporations to remain in China, because - even if they were censored
    by the Chinese government - their presence would slowly moderate and "westernize" the country so it became more free and open.

    Two decades down the line, this line of reasoning needs to be
    questioned and companies that continue to blindly do business with
    China need to be held to account. The bottom line - whether its in
    regard to our own purchases or the actions of a corporation - cannot
    continue to be the only measure we use to determine our activities in
    this world.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Jul 31 13:29:35 2022
    On 7/31/2022 11:40 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 13:08:07 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Something I just found out about but when I did it was an "Of course
    they do!" moment.

    All computer and video games sold in China have to include built in
    censors to prevent players from using offensive words or phrases when
    they name characters or other things in the game. And apparently the
    translation database used by the government for translating forbidden
    character strings from Chinese to other languages has issues. So things
    like naming something after a German company doesn't work because many
    such companies name's end with 'B' and that triggers the software censor.

    Given the pressure such measures have imposed on getting non-Chinese
    movies allowed in China and the way movie studios edit their world-wide
    releases as a result, I can only imagine who much of an impact that has
    on video and computer games around the world.

    In the early 2000s, when oh-so-many tech companies were - after
    rushing into China - were starting to bump into these sorts of
    restrictions, the common argument was it ws better for the
    corporations to remain in China, because - even if they were censored
    by the Chinese government - their presence would slowly moderate and "westernize" the country so it became more free and open.

    Two decades down the line, this line of reasoning needs to be
    questioned and companies that continue to blindly do business with
    China need to be held to account. The bottom line - whether its in
    regard to our own purchases or the actions of a corporation - cannot
    continue to be the only measure we use to determine our activities in
    this world.

    There are a few signs that Hollywood has gotten fed up with China's
    demands after the Chinese Film Department demanded that Marvel remove
    the Statue of Liberty from one of the latest Spider-Man movies when it
    was a central part of a critical "big" scene....


    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Mon Aug 1 11:25:27 2022
    On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 13:29:35 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 7/31/2022 11:40 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 13:08:07 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    Something I just found out about but when I did it was an "Of course
    they do!" moment.

    All computer and video games sold in China have to include built in
    censors to prevent players from using offensive words or phrases when
    they name characters or other things in the game. And apparently the
    translation database used by the government for translating forbidden
    character strings from Chinese to other languages has issues. So things
    like naming something after a German company doesn't work because many
    such companies name's end with 'B' and that triggers the software censor. >>>
    Given the pressure such measures have imposed on getting non-Chinese
    movies allowed in China and the way movie studios edit their world-wide
    releases as a result, I can only imagine who much of an impact that has
    on video and computer games around the world.

    In the early 2000s, when oh-so-many tech companies were - after
    rushing into China - were starting to bump into these sorts of
    restrictions, the common argument was it ws better for the
    corporations to remain in China, because - even if they were censored
    by the Chinese government - their presence would slowly moderate and
    "westernize" the country so it became more free and open.

    Two decades down the line, this line of reasoning needs to be
    questioned and companies that continue to blindly do business with
    China need to be held to account. The bottom line - whether its in
    regard to our own purchases or the actions of a corporation - cannot
    continue to be the only measure we use to determine our activities in
    this world.

    There are a few signs that Hollywood has gotten fed up with China's
    demands after the Chinese Film Department demanded that Marvel remove
    the Statue of Liberty from one of the latest Spider-Man movies when it
    was a central part of a critical "big" scene....

    This is less because of the censorious demands and more because the
    movies aren't as profitable in China as you'd expect. That's not to
    say that Western movies aren't popular in China - they are, although
    its hard to gauge which movies will be a success and which will flop
    due to cultural differences - but because of ticketing shenanigans. As
    I understand it, movie theaters are supposed to promote Chinese movies
    over Western ones, and failure to do so gets your business investigated/shut-down. So the theaters sell people tickets to a
    Chinese movie and then let them instead watch the western film.

    Unfortunately, this means that the Hollywood film doesn't get any
    revenue from the sale, so even though millions of people in China
    might see "Space Trek XXIV: Avengering Twilight", the sales figures
    are miniscule. Since all these profits in China are flowing to Chinese
    film companies /and/ it keeps the populace happy, the Chinese
    government isn't doing anything about this (except when the messaging
    of the movie is considered too extravagantly anti-China).

    So despite there being a potential market of over a billion viewers in
    China, Hollywood is becoming less enamored with with the market.
    They'd happily chop out the Statue of Liberty if it meant they were
    getting the cash, but since they're not, why bother?

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